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Posted: 3/30/2019 5:14:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Northern-SW: https://binged.it/2FBWsyS TFB did a Shot Show interview with B&T where they discussed it. $100 conversion for the APC9 Bolt to accept Glock Mags plus the $500 lower. I'm assuming this makes the old lower no longer usable with the modified bolt. Seems like it would make more sense for them to sell the Glock Bolt and Glock lower as a bundle for those looking to upgrade their APC9. |
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Posted: 3/30/2019 8:27:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VelveteenMole:
Pretty sure the bolt mod is a retrofit for current owners, but new Pros includes the Glock compatible bolt which can work with either lower. |
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BEL
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Posted: 3/31/2019 4:39:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Heavyd7042]
[#3]
How do I disassemble the bolt of an BT APC9? I want to remove the extractor and firing pin.
Could anyone give me instructions or a guide. Thanks! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/31/2019 5:34:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Does anyone know the OAL of the APC9 with the B&T stock?
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Posted: 3/31/2019 10:46:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81:
Does anyone know the OAL of the APC9 with the B&T stock?  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2019 10:55:20 AM EDT
[#6]
Does anyone run a DBAL- A3 or D2 on their APC9? Thinking about getting into the NV world and was wondering about this setup.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2019 12:23:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bmo419]
[#7]
Can't tell if this is April fool's or not lol
http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2019 1:32:16 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmo419:
Can't tell if this is April fool's or not lol http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2019 2:16:27 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnLWare: 23.5” https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284972/122206F4-6D9C-42B0-A994-54953B622A43_jpeg-897070.JPG |
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Posted: 4/1/2019 2:32:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GataGunner:
Appears to be legit Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GataGunner:
Originally Posted By bmo419:
Can't tell if this is April fool's or not lol http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ |
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Posted: 4/1/2019 4:07:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmo419:
Can't tell if this is April fool's or not lol http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2019 11:15:16 PM EDT
[#12]
So no one uses dbals or other IR laser setups?
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Posted: 4/2/2019 5:39:26 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BS68280:
So no one uses dbals or other IR laser setups? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/2/2019 1:43:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Are spare parts available for these anywhere? After getting burned by Sig I only buy guns that I can purchased spares for.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2019 2:08:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmo419:
Can't tell if this is April fool's or not lol Plus, proprietary mags? Just stupid, IMO. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2019 4:45:11 PM EDT
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2019 5:05:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bestiller: It’s legit |
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Posted: 4/2/2019 6:10:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikev101:
Crazy... APC9K was the worst of the bunch. Plus, proprietary mags? Just stupid, IMO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikev101:
Originally Posted By bmo419:
Can't tell if this is April fool's or not lol Plus, proprietary mags? Just stupid, IMO. 
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Posted: 4/3/2019 6:29:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Crazy... APC9K was the worst of the bunch. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2019 8:38:26 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VelveteenMole:
Genuinely curious what makes you say that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VelveteenMole:
Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Crazy... APC9K was the worst of the bunch. |
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Posted: 4/3/2019 9:10:47 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By humahuma:
obviously hes tested all of them in full auto version and the apc9 was worst of the bunch in his tests. either that or because its "just a dumb blowback" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By humahuma:
Originally Posted By VelveteenMole:
Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101: Crazy... APC9K was the worst of the bunch. |
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Posted: 4/3/2019 9:21:05 AM EDT
[#22]
Kalashnikev101 has always been and will always be a let's bash B&T troll. Anyone here who likes B&T and has not already put him on the ignore list is a glutton for punishment.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2019 9:18:59 AM EDT
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Well I guess I can now say I joined your ranks with APC9 coming from Rainier with a brace and drum. I'll pick up a MRO or TL-1 later. More than likely SBR it if I don't decide to get the SD version and sell this one later. It'll join the safe along with my SBR MPX. My other past sub guns was a POS Coharie MP40 and I've had lengthy trigger time with UMP 40 and a bit with the MP5 from work.
Is there any way to do a SD conversion or the only option is buy a APC9SD? And what are recommended cans of the tri lug (I know I'll get a slew of opinions) and best place for more stick mags. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2019 9:37:04 AM EDT
[#24]
Does anyone know of a shop with the folding charging handle in stock? All the ones I've found are out of stock.
20181216-IMG_1157-Canon EOS 6D-24-105mm |
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Posted: 4/5/2019 12:51:42 PM EDT
[#25]
Are the Glock lowers out yet? That with AR grip and trigger compatibility may be what puts me over the edge. I’m tired of finicky AR build but like the ergonomics too much to go with a roller lock.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2019 5:03:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Are the Glock lowers out yet? That with AR grip and trigger compatibility may be what puts me over the edge. I’m tired of finicky AR build but like the ergonomics too much to go with a roller lock. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2019 7:00:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NOLAGT]
[#27]
Tarheelstate has some in stock.
I got a GHM45 but haven’t had it ship yet. I think I may switch to the APC45. Place doesn’t have the regular 45 in but has some pros coming. I was told it might just be the pro version going forward. Other than glock lowers (don’t want), bolt that can shoot glock mags as well as other, ar grips, and last round hold open on a non recip bolt is there anything else different? I saw someone say something about triggers? |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 7:09:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DocBach]
[#28]
I've got a form one in for my APC pro with the telescoping brace and want to swap the tailhook for a stock pad when it comes back. Is this kit compatible with the APC's brace mount: B&T Conv-Kit For GHM / KH9 Telescopic Braces?
Also, whats the story on the TL aimpoint combos? Were they a limited deal? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:14:17 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UsubM:
Does anyone know of a shop with the folding charging handle in stock? All the ones I've found are out of stock. https://live.staticflickr.com/4846/31404466357_5815490a07_h.jpg 20181216-IMG_1157-Canon EOS 6D-24-105mm |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:47:30 AM EDT
[#30]
Has anyone cerakoted or dipped their APC? Thinking about it and can’t find pics.
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Posted: 4/8/2019 10:28:36 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BS68280:
Has anyone cerakoted or dipped their APC? Thinking about it and can’t find pics. If I purchase an GHM down the road, I think I’ll go for that scheme. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2019 12:08:15 PM EDT
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For the firing pin, I discovered that the pin needs to be pushed forward before you push out the retaining pin. There is a specific cut out that clears the pin, but only if it is pushed forward. So when you put it back in, you need to align the half moon cut and push the firing pin in. Be careful that it doesn’t rotate when you try and out it back in.
The extractor... I tried to lock down the spring from the tiny hole but I never felt it catch. I think it’s probably used to reinstall the spring and extractor but I imagine to remove it you would open the extractor and find a wedge to free up the extractor. I haven’t built up the confidence to do so. |
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Posted: 4/9/2019 11:01:06 AM EDT
[#33]
How is the recoil of the APC9 compared to other PCCs? I've had a SBR 9mm AR for years now that has never worked 100% and has been through so many iterations and changes only God knows what I've sunk into it. With eFile F1's running so fast right now I'm giving the APC9 a hard look. I tried a MP5 briefly but the ergonomics and trigger were a deal killer. I love the ergonomics of a 9mm AR but the amount of mass needed in the blowback system and finicky nature (Glock magazine) leading to unpredictable reliability has been frustrating. The Glock lower APC9 Pro seems to check most of the boxes in what I'm looking for. How about trigger options? I see Geissele makes a trigger but can you get other AR triggers to work?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2019 11:10:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: arndog123]
[#34]
My APC9 has pretty much sits in the safe since I prefer shooting my MP5's because they're softer shooting. Since you like the AR ergos take a look at a Sig MPX. I recently picked up the K version and I absolutely love it, even more than my MP5's. My brother and shot them back to back and both agree that the MPX is softer/smoother shooting. Unfortunately, Sig discontinued and replaced it with the Copperhead which IMHO looks hideous. I love the MPX K so much I'm going to pick up another this afternoon as a backup. Another PCC I'd like to try and compare is the CMMG Banshee.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2019 5:06:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: humahuma]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
How is the recoil of the APC9 compared to other PCCs? I've had a SBR 9mm AR for years now that has never worked 100% and has been through so many iterations and changes only God knows what I've sunk into it. With eFile F1's running so fast right now I'm giving the APC9 a hard look. I tried a MP5 briefly but the ergonomics and trigger were a deal killer. I love the ergonomics of a 9mm AR but the amount of mass needed in the blowback system and finicky nature (Glock magazine) leading to unpredictable reliability has been frustrating. The Glock lower APC9 Pro seems to check most of the boxes in what I'm looking for. How about trigger options? I see Geissele makes a trigger but can you get other AR triggers to work? the apc9 is not as soft as my z5rs but it is a super smooth gun. to me it has a unique feel and i shoot it more than twice as much as my mp5 clone that i also love. the stock trigger on the apc9 is very good. before i bought the gun i had plans to upgrade but im not sure i will anymore. ive heard of some AR triggers working well and others not so much. id start a thread and ask about the specific trigger you are looking at or call B&T and see if they know. whatever you choose, go 3 lug! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2019 6:05:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: txbt]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By India303:
And what are recommended cans of the tri lug (I know I'll get a slew of opinions) and best place for more stick mags. ManVentureOutpost has the best price on the magazine (BT-30183, $36.47) but they're out of stock right now. They also have the best price on the SilencerCo low profile 3-lug mount (AC2447, $92.53). Note that they are slow to ship (a week or so). |
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Posted: 4/9/2019 6:14:34 PM EDT
[#37]
My experience has been different. My APC9 is one of the smoothest shooting guns I own. I think it holds flatter than the MP5 or MPX. One of my favorites.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2019 8:58:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kells81]
[#38]
How about a fun game of what 2 stage triggers fit the APC9 Pro?
Knights- Yes but does not reset without modification Gieselle- Nope.. hammer does not have retaining pin in the middle to retain the hammer pin. CMMG- Nope.. Same issue as the Gieselle but also the rear is too wide Larue- Fits and resets without modification but rubs the plastic on the rear. easy fix Those are the ones I have laying around Also thing to note: Switching the trigger to an AR trigger loses the function of being able to put the weapon on safe in any condition. You can only safe the weapon when the hammer is cocked like a normal AR. The factory trigger has a pivot that lets you safe the weapon hammer up or down. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2019 10:32:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81:
How about a fun game of what 2 stage triggers fit the APC9 Pro?
Knights- Yes but does not reset without modification Gieselle- Nope.. hammer does not have retaining pin in the middle to retain the hammer pin. CMMG- Nope.. Same issue as the Gieselle but also the rear is too wide Larue- Fits and resets without modification but rubs the plastic on the rear. easy fix Those are the ones I have laying around Also thing to note: Switching the trigger to an AR trigger loses the function of being able to put the weapon on safe in any condition. You can only safe the weapon when the hammer is cocked like a normal AR. The factory trigger has a pivot that lets you safe the weapon hammer up or down. |
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Posted: 4/10/2019 6:51:43 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NOLAGT: Good info! I bailed on the ghm45 I bought and now waiting for a APC45 Pro to come in. I’ll shoot it some before swapping triggers but was wondering how some ar types did. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2019 7:46:21 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud:
My experience has been different. My APC9 is one of the smoothest shooting guns I own. I think it holds flatter than the MP5 or MPX. One of my favorites. 
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Posted: 4/10/2019 7:50:38 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arndog123: I heard they're smoother when shooting them suppressed. Unfortunately, I won't know 'til my cans get out of NFA jail. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2019 9:21:24 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: Gieselle makes an APC specific trigger, as well as shooting sight. Both are very nice triggers. Neither, however retain the factory capability to engage the safety if the hammer isn't cocked.
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Posted: 4/10/2019 4:23:36 PM EDT
[#44]
I'm looking for answers for my apc223 and being the apc9 is quite similar, what are you guys using for sling mounts f&r?
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2019 1:05:20 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin:
I'm looking for answers for my apc223 and being the apc9 is quite similar, what are you guys using for sling mounts f&r? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2019 2:03:45 PM EDT
[#46]
I just picked mine up yesterday. It makes my MPX look like a POS.
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WV, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2019 3:06:12 PM EDT
[#47]
Anyone come up with a fix for the mags dropping out during suppressed firing? B&T has been less than helpful and has not responded to messages or emails. Got hold of Jessica once but no call back from two weeks ago.
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Posted: 4/11/2019 4:33:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bestiller]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45pulse:
Anyone come up with a fix for the mags dropping out during suppressed firing? B&T has been less than helpful and has not responded to messages or emails. Got hold of Jessica once but no call back from two weeks ago. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2019 5:00:01 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
How is the recoil of the APC9 compared to other PCCs? I've had a SBR 9mm AR for years now that has never worked 100% and has been through so many iterations and changes only God knows what I've sunk into it. With eFile F1's running so fast right now I'm giving the APC9 a hard look. I tried a MP5 briefly but the ergonomics and trigger were a deal killer. I love the ergonomics of a 9mm AR but the amount of mass needed in the blowback system and finicky nature (Glock magazine) leading to unpredictable reliability has been frustrating. The Glock lower APC9 Pro seems to check most of the boxes in what I'm looking for. How about trigger options? I see Geissele makes a trigger but can you get other AR triggers to work? The PSA has a slow heavy recoil impulse. Quite a lot of mass moving in a cheapy PCC. The action is working pretty slow and sluggish compared to the others. Simple blowback. The Zenith has a lighter mass, but it seems to take longer to settle down for the follow up shot. Just a little bit longer than the APC9 or the Vector. It's pleasant and feels like it should shoot faster, but it seems like the extra little areas of play seem to take longer for it to come back. It does have a little bit of a delay, hence the system, similar to shooting a piston gun versus a DI gun. The APC9 has a heavier mass than the Zenith, and the impulse is direct and fast. But it is waiting for you to fire again... It's like all of the tolerances are tight enough that it doesn't take as long as the Zenith to settle down. Just dropping the bolt on an empty chamber (to feel the chambering impuse) makes it seem like there is more movement - but I don't get this during live fire. Surprisingly the Vector had the least amount of recoil, or with the dot/sights moving around. The Vector had a similar super fast operating speed as the APC9. This was the opinion of four shooters of varying experiences. All of the weapons were shot with and without suppressors. The APC9 is still my go to choice. |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 5:29:39 PM EDT
[#50]
 Attached FileMy new pistol. Not crazy about the backup sights, they’re pretty high up. Will probably take them off when my T2 gets here next week so I can see through the tube. Very impressed with the comfort and usability of the tail hook brace. Really debating if SBRing it is really necessary. |
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