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Link Posted: 2/19/2019 8:29:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By artimus009:
I wonder if this brace to stock conversion works on this.
If not, then I guess it goes on the EE when the form 1 clears. I feel the folding stock would work better for me than the telescopic brace/stock.
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Originally Posted By artimus009:
Originally Posted By cyclone:
They make great braces...... I have two of his products and fully endorse them
I wonder if this brace to stock conversion works on this.
If not, then I guess it goes on the EE when the form 1 clears. I feel the folding stock would work better for me than the telescopic brace/stock.
Probably not..................the first one is for the collapsible stock with the two struts
Link Posted: 2/19/2019 11:55:18 PM EST
[#2]
I like having the pistol mag lowers as an option, but mostly in case some day there is a ban and hopefully with a new Glock or 320 lower, someone younger than me would want it as they have a supply of compatible mags.

Otherwise, I am happy with having 4 or 5 stick mags.  They don't seem the most durable mags anyway and with that clearish plastic, look suspectible to aging.  So no point to hoarde a ton of them at once.  Maybe be I buy 4 or 5 at first, and if still legal to buy new a decade from now, get another 4 or 5 to have a fresh batch.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 5:55:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:What are some good options for non-grip hand stops for the GHM9?
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I like to use B&Ts polymer sling mount. I like to think I started the trend, but really have no idea.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 11:13:45 AM EST
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Gen 1 vs Gen 2:  B&T says the way to tell is that the handguard is a separate part from the receiver on Gen 2, however I see a lot of posts (including the one I bought from) advertising Gen 2 with a one piece receiver/handguard.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 2:03:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sleepygreen:
Gen 1 vs Gen 2:  B&T says the way to tell is that the handguard is a separate part from the receiver on Gen 2, however I see a lot of posts (including the one I bought from) advertising Gen 2 with a one piece receiver/handguard.
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This has been discussed a lot, see posts above from 2/10. Some refer to the Gen 1s with the HP fix as “gen 2” even though they’re not because there’s a real gen 2 with the separate handguard.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 3:17:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:
Another +1 for Scott at THSF. Picked up a GHM9 today with 3 magazines and a collapsible brace for a very good price!
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Ooops. I meant to send a PM . PM sent
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 3:48:36 PM EST
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Do I want a compact or fullsize?
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 4:26:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Do I want a compact or fullsize?
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The full size is still small.  I was wondering which to get and got the regular size. I am glad I did because it is pretty small. Perfect size in my opinion.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 5:27:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Do I want a compact or fullsize?
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I went compact, I was looking for the smallest package available and I love the size. If you get the true gen2, you'll have the option to switch between full/compact sometime this year. It really just comes down to preference, like a MP5 vs MP5K.

If you need a tri-lug host go full size, if you don't or threaded is fine then go compact.

If you have other 9mm subguns that are more full-sized, then go compact for something different.

If you're afraid the compact will be "too small" then it's probably not for you as you likely favor more real estate.

If you're looking for something different/unique, go compact.

Those are just some of the thought processes I came up with, hope they help.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 5:36:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Do I want a compact or fullsize?
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I think the compact is too short. What are you going to use the gun for? Unless you are trying to fit it into a specific case, I don’t see the need. I wonder if there is a real FPS difference between the two.
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 6:01:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:

I think the compact is too short. What are you going to use the gun for? Unless you are trying to fit it into a specific case, I don’t see the need. I wonder if there is a real FPS difference between the two.
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the velocity is going to be minimal, you're only looking at a few inch difference. kind of like a glock 17L vs glock 26.

again, it all comes down to preference and the role of the gun. the length difference is going to come into play with your support hand/arm as the rear brace/stock length will be identical. if you feel you need the extra room and like a longer hold, the full size could be better
Link Posted: 2/20/2019 10:26:16 PM EST
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Any creative thoughts on mount options? I would like to make a mount or scabbard for a dual sport motorcycle.
Could always:
1. sling it
2. use a standard “turning fork” type mount
3. Scabbard mount
4. QD clip

I saw the pannier mount below without bags and thought how can I mount a subgun on it. Probably not very practical.
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Link Posted: 2/21/2019 8:09:03 AM EST
[#13]
Bolt a piece of sheet metal to pannier frame, mount sheet of kydex to sheetmetal, mold another piece of kydex around gun and fasten with rivets? I'd still use a leash from gun to frame though, just in case
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 3:28:38 PM EST
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I’d like a Crye gunclip style mount for the truck, it’s square and angled enough
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 8:29:21 PM EST
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I went with the full size as well..............I like it alot
Link Posted: 2/22/2019 8:12:20 AM EST
[#16]
I decided to go with the fullsize. Itll be here next week. I suppose I could always switch barrels and handguards later, after they become available. Shoutout to Tarheel State for unpacking and engraving as an afterthought on my part, and still getting it out same day.
Link Posted: 2/22/2019 9:34:58 AM EST
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I can also confirm that the Scalarworks micro mounts do not work on the GHM9. I had it from another gun, but I found a KAC Mount in the EE. I ha e seen quite a few people mounting their optics in the low position, which doesn’t make sense to me. Any thoughts?
Link Posted: 2/22/2019 4:35:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:
I can also confirm that the Scalarworks micro mounts do not work on the GHM9. I had it from another gun, but I found a KAC Mount in the EE. I ha e seen quite a few people mounting their optics in the low position, which doesn’t make sense to me. Any thoughts?
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on the contrary - scalarworks mounts DO work...i have one solidly mounted on my GHM9C...check out americaninfidel007 on IG for pics of the lovely pair

that said, it isn't as smooth of an install as on an AR due to the clearance (or lack thereof) on the rail. i found that using a combo of pulling/pushing and a pair of pliers got the job done. the sucker is on there tight, just can't be afraid to manhandle the tightening. even with using bare pliers (no covering to "protect" the mount) didn't scratch it up at all, i thought for sure some of the mount's paint on the wheel would have been scuffed off.

if you do go with the scalar mount, i'd recommend the 1/3 cowitness. I went with the absolute witness and wish it was just a taaaad higher.

ymmv
Link Posted: 2/22/2019 5:33:39 PM EST
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I can make anything work with a blow torch and pliers. I would say the Scalarworks mounts don’t work as designed on this gun.
Link Posted: 2/23/2019 3:41:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:
I would say the Scalarworks mounts don’t work as designed on this gun.
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that I agree with 100%. i got mine from t-rex which doesn't accept returns, so i was determined to make it work.. i do love the mount tho

just got back from another outing with the GHM9c, still fun as ever and the thing is a tack driver. over 1k rounds and not a single issue (only cleaned once) other than it not liking the federal HP i noted earlier. still loves the hornady CD HPs and obviously it can't eat the FMJs fast enough.

update on Geissele Super APC trigger - definitely love it. the first time i shot it i still had the stock trigger feel in my mind and was more aware of the G trigger having a different feel with the slightly rearward location. now, i don't even think about the placement but the short pull and super light break makes it one smooth and fast shooting trigger. if you're really looking to get the most out of the GHM9/APC in speed, the G is a must
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 10:32:05 PM EST
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Hey guys. Just picked up one today on a trade and haven't shot it yet. Can't really tell if I have a Gen I or Gen II. Can anyone weight in, please?

Things I have gathered that may matter:

  • US17 Serial

  • Tri lug adapter

  • Theaded barrel


Pics (yes, I know it needs to be cleaned, just got it):







Thoughts? Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 10:55:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:
Hey guys. Just picked up one today on a trade and haven't shot it yet. Can't really tell if I have a Gen I or Gen II. Can anyone weight in, please?

Things I have gathered that may matter:

  • US17 Serial

  • Tri lug adapter

  • Theaded barrel


Pics (yes, I know it needs to be cleaned, just got it):

https://i.imgur.com/JyULCBW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dmZa2wr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0xPPZYW.jpg

Thoughts? Thanks.
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Gen1
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 10:56:03 PM EST
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It’s a Gen 1.

The upper isn’t 2 pieces: receiver and rail.

Go back a page or two and look at my photos, that’s what a Gen 2 looks like. The handguard will be separate on a Gen 2.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 11:31:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By smiller4169:
It’s a Gen 1.

The upper isn’t 2 pieces: receiver and rail.

Go back a page or two and look at my photos, that’s what a Gen 2 looks like. The handguard will be separate on a Gen 2.
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Thanks. I guess I don't care so much about Gen 1 or Gen 2 as long as I have the updated feedramp for hallows. Can you tell if mine does? I guess some of the Gen 1s were updated. Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 11:35:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:
Thanks. I guess I don't care so much about Gen 1 or Gen 2 as long as I have the updated feedramp for hallows. Can you tell if mine does? I guess some of the Gen 1s were updated. Thanks.
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:
Originally Posted By smiller4169:
It’s a Gen 1.

The upper isn’t 2 pieces: receiver and rail.

Go back a page or two and look at my photos, that’s what a Gen 2 looks like. The handguard will be separate on a Gen 2.
Thanks. I guess I don't care so much about Gen 1 or Gen 2 as long as I have the updated feedramp for hallows. Can you tell if mine does? I guess some of the Gen 1s were updated. Thanks.
You’re fine with a 17 prefix serial. Nice score, be careful they multiply.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 11:38:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: zrockstar] [#26]
Thanks Stiller! Can't wait to shoot it, I'd be happy if the B&T performs even half as good as it looks
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 9:55:19 PM EST
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Looking for a brace to replace the SBA3 on the one I just picked up. To me the SBA3 is just too "AR" for B&T. I know the obvious choice is Tailhook, but I ran across this Doublestar Strongarm brace that looks promising. I have one of their entry stocks and am very impressed by it, so I threw together a little edit in MS Paint to get an idea. Their buffer tube may be a little too rugged for the GHM9, but I think I like the overall look. What do you guys think?

Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:02:02 PM EST
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She is coming together. The KAC Mount works great with the Aimpoint T2.  I picked up a XH35 in the EE for a great price. I am not sure if I can fit
this “pistol” in a Masterfire holster though...
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:16:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:

that I agree with 100%. i got mine from t-rex which doesn't accept returns, so i was determined to make it work.. i do love the mount tho

just got back from another outing with the GHM9c, still fun as ever and the thing is a tack driver. over 1k rounds and not a single issue (only cleaned once) other than it not liking the federal HP i noted earlier. still loves the hornady CD HPs and obviously it can't eat the FMJs fast enough.

update on Geissele Super APC trigger - definitely love it. the first time i shot it i still had the stock trigger feel in my mind and was more aware of the G trigger having a different feel with the slightly rearward location. now, i don't even think about the placement but the short pull and super light break makes it one smooth and fast shooting trigger. if you're really looking to get the most out of the GHM9/APC in speed, the G is a must
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Contemplating the trigger, but $350? We are getting into crazy territory.
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:30:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:
She is coming together. The KAC Mount works great with the Aimpoint T2.  I picked up a XH35 in the EE for a great price. I am not sure if I can fit
this “pistol” in a Masterfire holster though...
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Have you tried the XH35 on the bottom rail? I moved mine back to where it is just barely in front of my hand, and I can bump it on with the momentary switch just by squeezing my hand a little. Works really well, and who needs a tape switch!
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:41:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:

Have you tried the XH35 on the bottom rail? I moved mine back to where it is just barely in front of my hand, and I can bump it on with the momentary switch just by squeezing my hand a little. Works really well, and who needs a tape switch!
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I tried it. I like the looks of it on the bottom, but I like it on the side better for my hand placement.
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:44:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:...Their buffer tube may be a little too rugged for the GHM9, but I think I like the overall look. What do you guys think?
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I think buffer tubes meant to house AR15 buffers and springs utilized empty on other firearms are ridiculously ghey.

The factory retractable tailhook adapter is the way to go. If it’s too expensive, one should consider a Scorpion with a factory folder & tailhook.
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:51:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:

I think buffer tubes meant to house AR15 buffers and springs utilized empty on other firearms are ridiculously ghey.

The factory retractable tailhook adapter is the way to go. If it’s too expensive, one should consider a Scorpion with a factory folder & tailhook.
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The only other option I have seen that works is the factory B&T side folder modded for the Tailhook. I love the collapsible brace on mine and it is easily convertible to a stock. They nailed the length too because LOP is exactly 13.5 inches for people who believe that measurement is gospel. Putting an AR tube on this gun is no bueno.
Link Posted: 2/25/2019 10:59:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:Putting an AR tube on this gun is no bueno.
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Well I got mine used and that is how it came. For now I am going to run it until I decide if I want to do the tailhook or not.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:31:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:

Well I got mine used and that is how it came. For now I am going to run it until I decide if I want to do the tailhook or not.
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stamp it and put a stock on it
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 10:12:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:

Contemplating the trigger, but $350? We are getting into crazy territory.
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that's a nice setup you have running!

I agree, the price is the biggest downside to the trigger. i think i would only recommend it for those who are pushing to maximize the CQB aspect and speed shooting. honestly, i really liked the stock trigger but it was just too heavy of a pull for rapid follow ups.

if you feel like you're "lagging" due to slower trigger speeds, then make the switch. otherwise, run with the stock and buy more ammo lol
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 10:21:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By zrockstar:
Looking for a brace to replace the SBA3 on the one I just picked up. To me the SBA3 is just too "AR" for B&T. I know the obvious choice is Tailhook, but I ran across this Doublestar Strongarm brace that looks promising. I have one of their entry stocks and am very impressed by it, so I threw together a little edit in MS Paint to get an idea. Their buffer tube may be a little too rugged for the GHM9, but I think I like the overall look. What do you guys think?

https://i.imgur.com/8wuTjCA.jpg
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my vote would be no.. doesn't make any sense to throw a nonfolding buffer tube-esque stock/brace on this type of gun; kind of defeats the purpose of the gun (ie not needing it).
definitely should be either collapsible or side folding to really take advantage of the platform. subguns are meant for compactness

personally i like the side folder for the APC and collapsible for GHM9

it's your gun so whatever floats your boat - long as you're happy with the setup, doesn't matter my 1/2 cent
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 1:24:22 PM EST
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I'm looking at the GHM9 with the telescoping brace adapter and a tailhook.

If the pistol was registered as a SBR, is there some way to convert the adapter to a stock by replacing the tailhook with a buttpad of some sort?

If not, is the folder the only stock option?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 2:45:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gthirteen:If the pistol was registered as a SBR, is there some way to convert the adapter to a stock by replacing the tailhook with a buttpad of some sort?
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Yes, but you’re better off just selling it and buying the stock...

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=465
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 3:04:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:

Yes, but you’re better off just selling it and buying the stock...

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=465
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People don't like the telescoping adaptor?

thank you!!
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 3:07:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:

Yes, but you’re better off just selling it and buying the stock...

https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=57_123&product_id=465
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agreed - you can, but the length of pull on the actual collapsible stock is different than the collapsible brace so probably better of selling/buying.

while you can form 1 it, i think you'll find the brace + tailhook is extremely solid and doesn't really lend to needing to convert to a stock (unless you really really want to)...plus the advantages of a pistol vs SBR are something to consider
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 3:12:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gthirteen:

People don't like the telescoping adaptor?

thank you!!
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goes to the LOP mentioned - the brace rail extended length is about 1" shorter, which compensates for about the 1" thickness added by the tailhook brace vs stock. if you simply swap from brace to stock end plate, your fully extended length is going to be about 1" shorter

the actual stock rails have an extra notch allowing for 1 additional longer position
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 3:58:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:

goes to the LOP mentioned - the brace rail extended length is about 1" shorter, which compensates for about the 1" thickness added by the tailhook brace vs stock. if you simply swap from brace to stock end plate, your fully extended length is going to be about 1" shorter

the actual stock rails have an extra notch allowing for 1 additional longer position
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You guys are a little off on this. The rails are the same on both the brace and the stock. They each have three positions, but only two are useable on the brace configuration because of different plastic bumpers that can be swapped out with the THSF kit. You could also cut down the ones you have in the pistol configuration. FYI, the Tailhook brace collapsible setup has a LOP of exactly 13.5 inches.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 4:53:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:

You guys are a little off on this. The rails are the same on both the brace and the stock. They each have three positions, but only two are useable on the brace configuration because of different plastic bumpers that can be swapped out with the THSF kit. You could also cut down the ones you have in the pistol configuration. FYI, the Tailhook brace collapsible setup has a LOP of exactly 13.5 inches.
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i wasn't aware you can swap the plastic bumpers, i never looked that closely at how they were installed. i just knew the stock extended one additional position. good to know!
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 4:55:13 PM EST
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on a side note, THSF is now accepting pre-orders for the APC PRO...sweeeeeeet
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 5:01:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gthirteen:People don't like the telescoping adaptor?
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People do, but the stock conversion is expensive. You may as well just sell the brace and buy the stock.

For others, you can see the “plastic bumpers” in the link I posted above.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 6:57:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:

People do, but the stock conversion is expensive. You may as well just sell the brace and buy the stock.

For others, you can see the “plastic bumpers” in the link I posted above.
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yup, noticed the bumpers after it was pointed out. pretty cool that they do that

based on that, i would think it would make more sense just to buy the adaptor - that way you can always revert to a pistol if you ever wanted/needed
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:14:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By americaninfidel007:

yup, noticed the bumpers after it was pointed out. pretty cool that they do that

based on that, i would think it would make more sense just to buy the adaptor - that way you can always revert to a pistol if you ever wanted/needed
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My buddy has an APC9 SBR and the comfort difference between my pistol and his SBR is tiny. I can carry mine loaded in a backpack and dance along the state line if I please. Doing the SBR thing on this gun is a tough sell for me with the quality of the Tailhook setup. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:13:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By goldwinggoat:

My buddy has an APC9 SBR and the comfort difference between my pistol and his SBR is tiny. I can carry mine loaded in a backpack and dance along the state line if I please. Doing the SBR thing on this gun is a tough sell for me with the quality of the Tailhook setup. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze.
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agreed, the tail hook is solid and comfortable. plus a lot of states don't allow you to carry loaded rifles in the car while driving, pistols are typically good to go. plus the state lines thing is a big one too
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 10:50:05 PM EST
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I agree with the last posts.  With the collapsing stock and tailhook, the SBR makes no sense.  It’s the best pistol set up of any pistol carbine out there. Pricey but worth it.  I freaking love My GHM9. Trigger is the only thing I want to replace but not 350$ bad.  I hope more people test aftermarket triggers out.
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