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Posted: 4/10/2017 10:34:08 PM EDT
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Glad to hear about the springs. Is there any prototype pics of the polymer charging handle? Will more than likely pick one up when they hit the market.
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Posted: 4/10/2017 10:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HBI:
Right on, thank you for the kind words! We are really close to releasing extended polymer charge handles. We would like to post something in this PCC section here shortly, but first need to understand all of the rules/regulations as they apply to vendors/manufacturers. |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 2:28:36 PM EDT
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Do any of yall know the thread pitch or any place that makes a muzzle device that will fit over these outer diameter thread? I have a 2016 model evo, so I know these are not metric threads pattern.
I looked at manticore, but their offerings are only in 18mm, unless the larger threads are 18mm? |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 3:03:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munzy:
Do any of yall know the thread pitch or any place that makes a muzzle device that will fit over these outer diameter thread? I have a 2016 model evo, so I know these are not metric threads pattern. http://i.imgur.com/qbOKJOF.jpg?1 I looked at manticore, but their offerings are only in 18mm, unless the larger threads are 18mm? |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 4:54:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wildbill990:
Yes. That's the euro thread size 18x1RH and this manticore muzzle device will Work. They also make a tri lug adapter that fits the euro threads. The smaller threads are the American 1/2x28. There's other companies out there as well that make 18x1RH adapters and muzzle devices also, for example the dead air ghost m suppressor has a direct thread mount in that size. In other news, anyone want a 1/2x28 flashhider, I might have one for sale 
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Posted: 4/11/2017 7:02:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jekbrown]
[#6]
why not just use a 1/2x28 muzzle device that will pass a 9mm bullet? Like a Rousch? On guns like this that don't actually need much in the way of flash suppression, I usually go with their Rampage 4 Prong XS when I don't have a silencer attached.
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Posted: 4/12/2017 10:28:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jekbrown:
why not just use a 1/2x28 muzzle device that will pass a 9mm bullet? Like a Rousch? On guns like this that don't actually need much in the way of flash suppression, I usually go with their Rampage 4 Prong XS when I don't have a silencer attached. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 11:31:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jekbrown:
why not just use a 1/2x28 muzzle device that will pass a 9mm bullet? Like a Rousch? On guns like this that don't actually need much in the way of flash suppression, I usually go with their Rampage 4 Prong XS when I don't have a silencer attached. And my last 922r part came in yesterday, so I finally was able to piece together my first SBR and subgun. Now Ive got subgun fever in addition to BRD
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Posted: 4/12/2017 2:22:45 PM EDT
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Can anyone tell me how to (without taking the gun apart) tell if a EVO is before or after the "World-Legal" late 2015 changes? Is there a serial number cutoff, or something really obvious on the outside of the gun or the box?
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Posted: 4/12/2017 2:32:01 PM EDT
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My Scorpion is currently being engraved and I was thinking of having them chop and rethread the barrel while they have it instead of buying a thread adapter for my suppressor. Is there a certain length I should go for reliability or anything? Seeing as I don't have it on hand to check does anyone know if my TiRant will fit inside the stock pistol handguard?
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Posted: 4/12/2017 2:32:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590:
Can anyone tell me how to (without taking the gun apart) tell if a EVO is before or after the "World-Legal" late 2015 changes? Is there a serial number cutoff, or something really obvious on the outside of the gun or the box? |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 2:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590:
Can anyone tell me how to (without taking the gun apart) tell if a EVO is before or after the "World-Legal" late 2015 changes? Is there a serial number cutoff, or something really obvious on the outside of the gun or the box? |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wildbill990:
No, you have to take the lower off to check. Having said that, I just got the newer pistol flash can model (pistol w carbine handguard)and it doesn't have the welded screw. The shop I work at got two of these flash can models, mine and the other one didn't have the weld. Someone on here also got one without the weld so it seems the flash can models at least don't have the welded screws. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2017 10:19:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590:
What about the "blocking bar" in the reciever, is it true that its visible from the outside, and therefore an indicator of the "world legal" vs older US models? 
It's basically a piece of metal that sits flush from the outside, on the inside it sticks out slightly to get in the way of the bolt. Since this occurs the bolt has the top right corner machined out to not interfere with the blocking bar. This is done so you can't use a full auto bolt and in reality I don't see the point because even if you had a full auto trigger pack, you should be able to run full auto regardless of the bolt. It would prob just have a slightly higher cyclic rate since there is slightly less mass in the bolt afaik. The early 2015 scorpion pistols didn't have the blocking bar as they basically took the full auto guns and slapped a semi auto trigger group in it. 2016 and forward models had the blocking bars and I don't see why they'd go back to not having them as these are civilian guns which don't have a need for the full auto bolt. From 2016 to sometime around now it seems the evo' no longer have the world trigger welds. I have yet to get a new production carbine in the shop so I can't confirm it's on every model. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:23:18 AM EDT
[#15]
The pistol I bought a month ago from buds didn't have a welded trigger pack.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 9:49:54 AM EDT
[#16]
I finally got to shoot my Scorpion SBR the other day. I sighted in the red dot that I put on top and then was able to shoot it suppressed, too. Such a blast!
I did have a few issues with the trigger resetting with the new spring I put in. It seemed to get better the more I shot it but was a little worrying that it wasn't 100%. I remember reading some suggestions on how to fix that so I might have to go back through the thread to find them. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 10:45:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Punkface:
The pistol I bought a month ago from buds didn't have a welded trigger pack. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 10:49:13 PM EDT
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Got a pistol last month. No weld.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neomonk21:
I did have a few issues with the trigger resetting with the new spring I put in. It seemed to get better the more I shot it but was a little worrying that it wasn't 100%. I remember reading some suggestions on how to fix that so I might have to go back through the thread to find them. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:04:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jekbrown:
Which spring were you using? |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 11:22:31 PM EDT
[#21]
SEI's extended mag release :D
 Shooters Element Extended Magazine Release CZ Scorpion EVO 3 |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 11:03:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Who has a lage stock, and how do you like it? I like how the offer a left side folder.
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Posted: 4/15/2017 6:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Who has a lage stock, and how do you like it? I like how the offer a left side folder.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 9:21:29 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Who has a lage stock, and how do you like it? I like how the offer a left side folder. 
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Posted: 4/15/2017 11:12:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JuanPing]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neomonk21:
I finally got to shoot my Scorpion SBR the other day. I sighted in the red dot that I put on top and then was able to shoot it suppressed, too. Such a blast! I did have a few issues with the trigger resetting with the new spring I put in. It seemed to get better the more I shot it but was a little worrying that it wasn't 100%. I remember reading some suggestions on how to fix that so I might have to go back through the thread to find them. When looking from the rear of the trigger housing you can see the small spring leg. If it's not against the wall take a small screwdriver or punch and slide it over to the right so that it is. This will get the spring to stand up properly and the large leg to shift slightly to the left instead of being wedged between the bar and the wall. It's hard to describe and I didn't do a very good job but you'll know when you see it. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:13:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munzy:
I have the Lage K-stock, and its pretty awesome. http://i.imgur.com/8kL9Q0V.jpg?1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munzy:
I have the Lage K-stock, and its pretty awesome. http://i.imgur.com/8kL9Q0V.jpg?1 Originally Posted By jclaypool:
I have the 5 degree right side folder. I like it a lot. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296694/2017-04-15-17-188135.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296694/2017-04-15-17-188136.JPG |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:23:11 AM EDT
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I've always heard that these Scorpions prefer heavier ammo. Yesterday I found out that was definitely the case.
Set up a B27 target at 50 yards and took my Scorpion with an Aimpoint T1, zeroed with 147gr, and proceeded to load up 5 rounds of Perfecta 115gr. Aimed at the head and fired 5 rounds, suppressed. Went down range and saw no holes on the paper. Checked to make sure the suppressor was not loose. It wasn't. Went back, loaded 5 rounds of PPU 158gr. 5 aimed shots at the head. Went to check, 5 holes in the face. It was an interesting lesson |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:59:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How does quality compare to cz stocks and/or the side projects stock? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By Munzy:
I have the Lage K-stock, and its pretty awesome. http://i.imgur.com/8kL9Q0V.jpg?1 Originally Posted By jclaypool:
I have the 5 degree right side folder. I like it a lot. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296694/2017-04-15-17-188135.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296694/2017-04-15-17-188136.JPG |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:23:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
I've always heard that these Scorpions prefer heavier ammo. Yesterday I found out that was definitely the case. Set up a B27 target at 50 yards and took my Scorpion with an Aimpoint T1, zeroed with 147gr, and proceeded to load up 5 rounds of Perfecta 115gr. Aimed at the head and fired 5 rounds, suppressed. Went down range and saw no holes on the paper. Checked to make sure the suppressor was not loose. It wasn't. Went back, loaded 5 rounds of PPU 158gr. 5 aimed shots at the head. Went to check, 5 holes in the face. It was an interesting lesson Never tried 115gr. I zeroed mine with 124g and can use both 124 and 147g without issue. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:30:03 AM EDT
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115 gr. works fine out of mine.
Also have a Lage stock here but can't offer any reviews due to still waiting on my stamp to come back. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 7:10:44 AM EDT
[#31]
No accuracy or reliability issues with 115 unsuppressed. I will have to try some suppressed. To clarify, I have only shot 147 with the suppressor.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:08:44 AM EDT
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Can someone tell me, when you buy a new Scorpion pistol, does it come with the adapter that mounts to the back of the receiver that accepts AR15 style receiver extensions (for attachment of a Shockwave Blade)? Or is the adapter sold separately?
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:11:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hero:
Can someone tell me, when you buy a new Scorpion pistol, does it come with the adapter that mounts to the back of the receiver that accepts AR15 style receiver extensions (for attachment of a Shockwave Blade)? Or is the adapter sold separately? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 9:38:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YugoslavSKS:
Adapter is sold separately. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:53:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebomber:
No accuracy or reliability issues with 115 unsuppressed. I will have to try some suppressed. To clarify, I have only shot 147 with the suppressor. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:02:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dolor]
[#36]
I love PDW's.Something about a very small package is super cool to me. Anything bigger than this I just want a full rifle round. (probably the reason I have a 11.5" 5.56 and a 9" 300)
 Attached FileBut this thing is super cool. The regular configuration is pretty sweet but the "K" config is where it's at. That being said, hopefully I'll be able to shoot mine this week. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 3:13:23 AM EDT
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Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone know exactly what 922r parts are used on the carbine Evos? I'm assuming it's the trigger, disconnector, handguard, stock, grip, and muzzle device, allowing it to be used with either CZ-UB or CZ-USA mags.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:11:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedRaptor:
Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone know exactly what 922r parts are used on the carbine Evos? I'm assuming it's the trigger, disconnector, handguard, stock, grip, and muzzle device, allowing it to be used with either CZ-UB or CZ-USA mags. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/461686_CZ_EVO___Aftermarket_and_OEM_vendors.html |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:31:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IceAuger:
I had the same problem after installing the HBI springs last week. The small spring leg should be up against the trigger housing wall when looking from the rear. There is a large enough of a gap in the spot where the spring resides that it can kind of lay over and the large leg won't push up against the bar like it should causing poor resets. When looking from the rear of the trigger housing you can see the small spring leg. If it's not against the wall take a small screwdriver or punch and slide it over to the right so that it is. This will get the spring to stand up properly and the large leg to shift slightly to the left instead of being wedged between the bar and the wall. It's hard to describe and I didn't do a very good job but you'll know when you see it. And thanks, HBI, for the great customer service! I didn't even reach out to them yet but they were on the ball. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:17:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
How does quality compare to cz stocks and/or the side projects stock? |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 2:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PC-Tech:
It sucks this old thread got archived, but everything you need to know and more is here. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/461686_CZ_EVO___Aftermarket_and_OEM_vendors.html |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 3:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedRaptor:
I checked that page already, but didn't see anything about which factory parts are coming on the carbine that makes it 922r compliant. I'm SBRing mine and will be replacing or have already replaced a couple of 922r-affected parts, so I'm not terribly concerned, but I'm trying to figure out if I've got room to maneuver should I want to drop in a CZ-UB disconnector (which is apparently stronger than the US-made one) or if I'm already riding the 10-part limit as is.
I don't know the answer to your question, although I would think it's the same parts that come in the 922r kit, which includes the disconnector. Another option is the CZ Custom US made disconnector, but sold out at this time. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 6:32:58 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RedRaptor:
Out of morbid curiosity, does anyone know exactly what 922r parts are used on the carbine Evos? I'm assuming it's the trigger, disconnector, handguard, stock, grip, and muzzle device, allowing it to be used with either CZ-UB or CZ-USA mags. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:03:56 PM EDT
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all these carbine posts appear to be OT...
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:13:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HEIT_APDST]
[#45]
 Attached FileI had mine almost three weeks, haven't even fired it yet. 
I've added the Lage 5 degree right side folder with a KAK tube and Shockwave brace until the stamp comes back. HB Industries AK safeties (awesome!), long on the right short on the left, extended mag release, THETA trigger shoe, and lightened trigger springs. Apex Tactical grip. The trigger, grip, mag followers and floor plates bring me to four 922r parts. I'm going to get a US made muzzle device next. Is there any reason you can't put a charging handle on both sides for true ambidextrous? |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HEIT_APDST:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/15109/CZ-Scorpion-Evo-3-S1-189662.JPG I had mine almost three weeks, haven't even fired it yet.
I've added the Lage 5 degree right side folder with a KAK tube and Shockwave brace until the stamp comes back. HB Industries AK safeties (awesome!), long on the right short on the left, extended mag release, THETA trigger shoe, and lightened trigger springs. Apex Tactical grip. The trigger, grip, mag followers and floor plates bring me to four 922r parts. I'm going to get a US made muzzle device next. Is there any reason you can't put a charging handle on both sides for true ambidextrous? |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:30:47 PM EDT
[#47]
Although not available on website, here is a short video teaser for those waiting.
 HBI Extended Polymer Charge Handle Betas |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Idaholandho:
Although not available on website, here is a short video teaser for those waiting.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRnSU1xBIJ0 |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:32:36 PM EDT
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Charging handle looks about perfect. Although the hb handguard does make the factory ch much easier to grab. I'm sure I'll pick one of these up as well since I have just about every HB upgrade
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:09:07 AM EDT
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Hopefully soon! I need a poly charging handle. Aluminum on aluminum violence is a real thing.
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