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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2023 3:14:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: Hi there @MGYSGT8541, I have a Spear LT rifle with two calibers and know what a 1.75 - 2 MOA rifle looks like. I also know how a .34 MOA Larue shoots because I have owned many, all sub .5 MOA. I also have an LMT MARS H in 6.5 and 7.62 so I eagerly await any evidence of a Spear that is either sub-MOA or MOA. OK? Stay cool. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 4:23:31 PM EST
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Don't forget that the SPEAR was birthed from the MCX-MR. Sig guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but that was a CSASS (compact semi-auto sniper system) entry.
Link to MCX-MR Article says that it can do sub MOA. We'll see what the commercial SPEAR-H can do once it's in the wild.  |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2023 10:41:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: MGYSGT8541]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Don't forget that the SPEAR was birthed from the MCX-MR. Sig guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but that was a CSASS (compact semi-auto sniper system) entry. Link to MCX-MR Article says that it can do sub MOA. We'll see what the commercial SPEAR-H can do once it's in the wild. https://imgs.search.brave.com/bJphfChizlT-muQMtwfDbW3HUDGm8Da4KK0-juaTmao/rs:fit:400:298:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YS5naXBoeS5jb20v/bWVkaWEveFVBN2Iw/NzZyRWxia2JFTzhv/L2dpcGh5LmdpZg.gif |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 5:38:48 PM EST
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I am getting the 308 version and then barrels in 6.5 and 277. Prob even a 13.5 barrel too. I hope it shoots lights out but I don’t think that’s the intent. I can’t recall if anyone ever stated what the army’s accuracy requirement was originally?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:29:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Don't forget that the SPEAR was birthed from the MCX-MR. Sig guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but that was a CSASS (compact semi-auto sniper system) entry. Link to MCX-MR Article says that it can do sub MOA. We'll see what the commercial SPEAR-H can do once it's in the wild. https://imgs.search.brave.com/bJphfChizlT-muQMtwfDbW3HUDGm8Da4KK0-juaTmao/rs:fit:400:298:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YS5naXBoeS5jb20v/bWVkaWEveFVBN2Iw/NzZyRWxia2JFTzhv/L2dpcGh5LmdpZg.gif It's a darn shame Sig Sauer decided to ditch the compatibility with the SR25. That would have opened up some very interesting possibilities.  |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:14:03 PM EST
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Remember that MCX deployment bag? If Sig doesn't offer any bags for Spear, does anyone have any reccs for a good soft bag the 16" would fit in?
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:44:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Remember that MCX deployment bag? If Sig doesn't offer any bags for Spear, does anyone have any reccs for a good soft bag the 16" would fit in? |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 3:35:44 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: I bought one when Sig re-clearanced them out. Still smells like Chinesium. Lul, good to know, I’ll find something else... So, are u ready for this thing, one more month.. what’re you thinking for optic |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 3:50:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Lul, good to know, I'll find something else... So, are u ready for this thing, one more month.. what're you thinking for optic |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 4:39:13 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: I've got a Trijicon 1-8 in a Geissele mount just waiting for it. I might go for something with a little more zoom, eventually. Nice. I kind of wish Sig would release their Alpha4 mount but nbd... might try that Unity fast lpvo mount if I ever see it in stock |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 5:04:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Nice. I kind of wish Sig would release their Alpha4 mount but nbd... might try that Unity fast lpvo mount if I ever see it in stock Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By JAG2955: I've got a Trijicon 1-8 in a Geissele mount just waiting for it. I might go for something with a little more zoom, eventually. Nice. I kind of wish Sig would release their Alpha4 mount but nbd... might try that Unity fast lpvo mount if I ever see it in stock I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:36:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too Ha, I'd take you up on it if I hadn't already bought a 6t a few years back.. tell them to sell me the mount & caps :) |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 11:09:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Ha, I'd take you up on it if I hadn't already bought a 6t a few years back.. tell them to sell me the mount & caps :) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By coregon: I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too Ha, I'd take you up on it if I hadn't already bought a 6t a few years back.. tell them to sell me the mount & caps :) Different scope/reticle - I can’t have you out here faking it with a legit mount and wrong scope… |
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Posted: 1/28/2023 1:21:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Different scope/reticle - I can’t have you out here faking it with a legit mount and wrong scope… 
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Posted: 1/30/2023 1:31:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By JAG2955: I've got a Trijicon 1-8 in a Geissele mount just waiting for it. I might go for something with a little more zoom, eventually. Nice. I kind of wish Sig would release their Alpha4 mount but nbd... might try that Unity fast lpvo mount if I ever see it in stock I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too Thanks for that, btw. I was gonna go crazy if I couldn't ever get one. 
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Posted: 1/30/2023 2:48:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By narphenal: Thanks for that, btw. I was gonna go crazy if I couldn't ever get one. https://i.imgur.com/NPRQMmC.jpg I'm jelly. |
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Posted: 1/30/2023 3:36:05 PM EST
[#17]
Oh great, that makes it easy, nice of you to bring extras for Jag & myself narphenal.. 'preciate it bud.
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Posted: 1/30/2023 4:34:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Oh great, that makes it easy, nice of you to bring extras for Jag & myself narphenal.. 'preciate it bud. They're all for me, along with everything else nice that he owns. |
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:56:08 PM EST
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Oh. Well does he own that star trek Vortex aimbot thing, NGSW-FC or w/e? Wouldn't mind one of those
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Posted: 2/2/2023 6:51:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By narphenal: Thanks for that, btw. I was gonna go crazy if I couldn't ever get one. https://i.imgur.com/NPRQMmC.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By narphenal: Originally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By JAG2955: I've got a Trijicon 1-8 in a Geissele mount just waiting for it. I might go for something with a little more zoom, eventually. Nice. I kind of wish Sig would release their Alpha4 mount but nbd... might try that Unity fast lpvo mount if I ever see it in stock I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too Thanks for that, btw. I was gonna go crazy if I couldn't ever get one. https://i.imgur.com/NPRQMmC.jpg Initial shooting impression. Way softer recoil than what the internet said. Shoots badass. Ran some of the FMJ and some of the Hybrid cased Accubond. 5 shot group of Accubond was a clover group, shot with the Tango DVO. We were quite surprised with the accuracy. We're going to slap a better scope next week and see how tight we can get the groups under controlled settings. Took it out to 500 with the DVO, surprisingly the BDC aligned fairly well within a 6" vertical target zone. Will definitely be going out to 1000 next week, and better documenting it. Definitely can't wait for the commercial release. Everything so far is pointing to it being a awesome setup. Now watch me neck this brass down. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 12:32:22 AM EST
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That sounds like good news. I *think* that I'm going to go with 6.5Jesusmoor. But who knows what will happen if the first one I see in stock is .308.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2023 6:52:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By narphenal: Initial shooting impression. Way softer recoil than what the internet said. Shoots badass. Ran some of the FMJ and some of the Hybrid cased Accubond. 5 shot group of Accubond was a clover group, shot with the Tango DVO. We were quite surprised with the accuracy. We're going to slap a better scope next week and see how tight we can get the groups under controlled settings. Took it out to 500 with the DVO, surprisingly the BDC aligned fairly well within a 6" vertical target zone. Will definitely be going out to 1000 next week, and better documenting it. Definitely can't wait for the commercial release. Everything so far is pointing to it being a awesome setup. Now watch me neck this brass down. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By narphenal: Originally Posted By narphenal: Originally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By JAG2955: I've got a Trijicon 1-8 in a Geissele mount just waiting for it. I might go for something with a little more zoom, eventually. Nice. I kind of wish Sig would release their Alpha4 mount but nbd... might try that Unity fast lpvo mount if I ever see it in stock I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too Thanks for that, btw. I was gonna go crazy if I couldn't ever get one. https://i.imgur.com/NPRQMmC.jpg Initial shooting impression. Way softer recoil than what the internet said. Shoots badass. Ran some of the FMJ and some of the Hybrid cased Accubond. 5 shot group of Accubond was a clover group, shot with the Tango DVO. We were quite surprised with the accuracy. We're going to slap a better scope next week and see how tight we can get the groups under controlled settings. Took it out to 500 with the DVO, surprisingly the BDC aligned fairly well within a 6" vertical target zone. Will definitely be going out to 1000 next week, and better documenting it. Definitely can't wait for the commercial release. Everything so far is pointing to it being a awesome setup. Now watch me neck this brass down. Were you shooting full power 6.8x51 or the reduced power stuff? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:32:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: Were you shooting full power 6.8x51 or the reduced power stuff? I looks like he shot both: "Ran some of the FMJ and some of the Hybrid cased Accubond."
My understanding of everything I've read so far is that the current production Hybrid cased ammunition will get you roughly 2900fps or more out of a 13" barrel which is really impressive for a .270 cartridge given the 13" barrel. The brass case stuff is more in line with what you would normally expect from a 13" barrel, around 2600fps. No one as far as I am aware has been able to get a hold of the military projectiles. I saw them pictured in the latest issue of American Rifleman's print magazine. Visually they seem similar in construction to the new M855A1 projectile. That's gonna be what can be used to punch ballistic plates. Take one of those projectiles, load it into the high pressure hybrid case screaming at 2900fps from a 13" barrel, oh yea  . Recoil should be mild versus a .308 given that this basically boils down to the age old .270 vs. .30 cal debate. I love these new cartridges that are being designed. My only concern with this one is how long will the gun last firing a steady diet of .277 Fury Hybrid rounds. Probably due to the cost few of us will find out. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 2:58:24 PM EST
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Damn, is it the end of February yet? I've got gift cards from work from extra shifts just waiting for this thing to come in stock somewhere.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:03:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Damn, is it the end of February yet? I've got gift cards from work from extra shifts just waiting for this thing to come in stock somewhere. Any plans on getting different caliber barrels for it? Prepping to sell my SCAR to fund the Spear. Thinking of doing a 6.5C or even the 277 Fury myself. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:19:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: Any plans on getting different caliber barrels for it? Prepping to sell my SCAR to fund the Spear. Thinking of doing a 6.5C or even the 277 Fury myself. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:59:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Maybe. We'll see how much they cost. I sold my PredatOBR last year in anticipation of this. I've waited many years for this, and I just can't wait. Maybe I'll buy the first one I see, and if it's a .308, buy a 6.5 Jesusmoor once I see them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Originally Posted By Zerlak: Any plans on getting different caliber barrels for it? Prepping to sell my SCAR to fund the Spear. Thinking of doing a 6.5C or even the 277 Fury myself. 6.5CM will come first, with 308 on its heels. 6.8/277 I cant give a good ETA on....there's a rather large customer that is commanding alot of attention. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2023 4:03:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: 6.5CM will come first, with 308 on its heels. 6.8/277 I cant give a good ETA on....there's a rather large customer that is commanding alot of attention. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By JAG2955: Originally Posted By Zerlak: Any plans on getting different caliber barrels for it? Prepping to sell my SCAR to fund the Spear. Thinking of doing a 6.5C or even the 277 Fury myself. 6.5CM will come first, with 308 on its heels. 6.8/277 I cant give a good ETA on....there's a rather large customer that is commanding alot of attention. Thanks for the update! I'll need to get on the sale fast then. Hopefully y'all move through the Army's contract fast. I'd love to play with the 277 Fury. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 5:38:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: 6.5CM will come first, with 308 on its heels. 6.8/277 I cant give a good ETA on....there's a rather large customer that is commanding alot of attention.  |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 5:52:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWhat do you say Jag, play with a Creedmoor battle rifle for a few years til the Fury Raptor parts kits show up? Werks for me 
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Posted: 2/9/2023 6:21:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: What do you say Jag, play with a Creedmoor battle rifle for a few years til the Fury Raptor parts kits show up? Werks for me https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HiddenOrganicAmericanpainthorse-max-1mb.gif  Just wondering if I should start a stockpile of 6.5C this weekend. Coregon? |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 10:36:14 PM EST
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How long did it take for Fury to show up for the Cross, did anyone pay attention?
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Posted: 2/9/2023 10:44:44 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: How long did it take for Fury to show up for the Cross, did anyone pay attention? 
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Posted: 2/10/2023 12:26:37 AM EST
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LOL
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:05:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: LOL sigh. Soooooooo 6.5 right off the rip or hold off for the .308???????????  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:55:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Soooooooo 6.5 right off the rip or hold off for the .308??????????? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg Prob hold off for the 308? 16" CM really doesn't make sense to me. Maybe there is some big advantage it has over 308 even at 16"? Doesn't 308 have more energy at shorter ranges.. feels like theyre just chambering it in this b/c they can & its ez Idk... Kind of an anticlimactic release for me tbh... after all this time, finally, here it is........ actually, not really. Real Fury Spear still TBA... "later on" Also, feels like the Fury version full rifles would be available for a year+ while lil me is stuck waiting yet again for the caliber kit for my CM If I can't have my Fury then would rather the Raptor in 308 at least, but, that's "later" too so... waiting for that instead is an option as well. Bet it arrives before Fury Spear dunno man, I don't have any CM rifles so if I see one for MAP and am in a mood maybe I'll grab it. Seeing the New Shiny Thing in person does tend to have a monkey stimulation effect  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:31:12 PM EST
[#37]
There was a 13.5” 6.5CM at range day that had me scratching my head and excited at the same time.
These blasters are pure sex. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:31:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Prob hold off for the 308? 16" CM really doesn't make sense to me. Maybe there is some big advantage it has over 308 even at 16"? Doesn't 308 have more energy at shorter ranges.. feels like theyre just chambering it in this b/c they can & its ez Idk... Kind of an anticlimactic release for me tbh... after all this time, finally, here it is........ actually, not really. Real Fury Spear still TBA... "later on" Also, feels like the Fury version full rifles would be available for a year+ while lil me is stuck waiting yet again for the caliber kit for my CM If I can't have my Fury then would rather the Raptor in 308 at least, but, that's "later" too so... waiting for that instead is an option as well. Bet it arrives before Fury Spear dunno man, I don't have any CM rifles so if I see one for MAP and am in a mood maybe I'll grab it. Seeing the New Shiny Thing in person does tend to have a monkey stimulation effect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/506270/gimpedcreed_jpg-2706038.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By doolz: Soooooooo 6.5 right off the rip or hold off for the .308??????????? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg Prob hold off for the 308? 16" CM really doesn't make sense to me. Maybe there is some big advantage it has over 308 even at 16"? Doesn't 308 have more energy at shorter ranges.. feels like theyre just chambering it in this b/c they can & its ez Idk... Kind of an anticlimactic release for me tbh... after all this time, finally, here it is........ actually, not really. Real Fury Spear still TBA... "later on" Also, feels like the Fury version full rifles would be available for a year+ while lil me is stuck waiting yet again for the caliber kit for my CM If I can't have my Fury then would rather the Raptor in 308 at least, but, that's "later" too so... waiting for that instead is an option as well. Bet it arrives before Fury Spear dunno man, I don't have any CM rifles so if I see one for MAP and am in a mood maybe I'll grab it. Seeing the New Shiny Thing in person does tend to have a monkey stimulation effect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/506270/gimpedcreed_jpg-2706038.JPG If you’re not familiar, look up the MRGG contract. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:02:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: There was a 13.5” 6.5CM at range day that had me scratching my head and excited at the same time. These blasters are pure sex. Don’t scratch it. Think “hybrid” |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:48:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By coregon: Think “hybrid”  I get it now.... ty.. I had forgotten that angle (his smile & optimism: Restored) |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:09:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Just wondering if I should start a stockpile of 6.5C this weekend. Stockpile, no, get some for goofin in the meantime but save the rest of your dough for the good stuff. https://soldiersystems.net/2022/10/13/217735/ 
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Posted: 2/10/2023 11:25:26 PM EST
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Oh man that’s awesome about the ammo offerings!
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Posted: 2/11/2023 2:27:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Don’t scratch it. Think “hybrid” I’m tracking. I’m tracking. We’re planning a .308 v 6.5 CM face off. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/12/2023 11:53:54 AM EST
[#44]
Alright when’s it shipping again ?
Wasn’t it February iirc according to shot show . I NEED it in 308 |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:42:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: I can get you an Alpha4....comes with a T6 1-6x scope, too It's true; I got the free scope with Alpha4 combo deal 
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Posted: 2/14/2023 8:00:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kiggz: Alright when’s it shipping again ? Wasn’t it February iirc according to shot show . I NEED it in 308 idk man. Bought a few lancer mags just in case 
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Posted: 2/14/2023 8:29:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: JAG2955]
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Supposed to be "end of February", from what I recall. And tonight we'll pass the 50% mark of February, so I'd say "where's my damn SPEAR?!?"
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2023 6:43:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Supposed to be "end of February", from what I recall. And tonight we'll pass the 50% mark of February, so I'd say "where's my damn SPEAR?!?" Coregon told me it was going to be Feb 29th this year. 
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Posted: 2/15/2023 1:45:26 PM EST
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I'm just here to say that the purse swinging in the GD thread made for great entertainment on night shift.
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Posted: 2/19/2023 11:42:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: I'm just here to say that the purse swinging in the GD thread made for great entertainment on night shift. |
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