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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:30:19 PM EST
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We have to be getting close. I should stop spending my money on C&Rs.
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:35:42 PM EST
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Posted: 2/22/2023 9:52:01 PM EST
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@coregon
Do you have any idea on lead times for the LT 11” 556 for the instructor program? I’m in Illinois and part of a temporary restraining order against the new ban and don’t know how long it will hold. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2023 10:46:33 PM EST
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Alabama Arsenal has just posted their next video on the MCX Spear. They were very impressed with it.
 Shots Fired XM7 Sig Spear | US’s Next Generation Weapon System |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 3:00:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sniper3142: Alabama Arsenal has just posted their next video on the MCX Spear. They were very impressed with it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C5bgQMgAawEven impressed with the 1.5-2 MOA “accuracy”. As I said, this won’t be worth the price tag with that barrel.oh well, I was hoping for sub MOA at the level of quality I was expecting. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 8:16:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: Even impressed with the 1.5-2 MOA “accuracy”. As I said, this won’t be worth the price tag with that barrel.oh well, I was hoping for sub MOA at the level of quality I was expecting. This is just one rifle thats been passed around between youtubers. I am going to wait to see what people are getting once these are released in numbers. I dont recall any match ammo being used so this is in line with ball ammo. Could be a 1.5-2 moa gun or maybe better, who knows. The interesting part of this video is whatever steel sig is using to prolong barrel life using the new round. His mention of that steel was the biggest take away from that video for me. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 9:10:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kgknight1037: This is just one rifle thats been passed around between youtubers. I am going to wait to see what people are getting once these are released in numbers. I dont recall any match ammo being used so this is in line with ball ammo. Could be a 1.5-2 moa gun or maybe better, who knows. The interesting part of this video is whatever steel sig is using to prolong barrel life using the new round. His mention of that steel was the biggest take away from that video for me. I bought eight varieties of match ammo in anticipation of a SPEAR accuracy test. Obviously I’ll let you all know asap. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 9:14:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: Even impressed with the 1.5-2 MOA "accuracy". As I said, this won't be worth the price tag with that barrel.oh well, I was hoping for sub MOA at the level of quality I was expecting. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2023 7:27:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: Cops66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lueds24: @coregon Do you have any idea on lead times for the LT 11” 556 for the instructor program? I’m in Illinois and part of a temporary restraining order against the new ban and don’t know how long it will hold. Why don’t you buy an MCX Virtus and then buy an upper kit when they become available? Unless you are bent on getting the ambi bolt catch and steel QD cups. I for one don’t care. WA State is trying to pass an AWB, so I bought a Virtus pistol and now will wait for the black upper kits. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 9:42:55 PM EST
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Not a bad idea, but here they banned purchase of all parts that can make an assault weapon. Kinda feel the need to stock pile parts. I already bought “high capacity” mags for guns I don’t even own yet.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2023 10:15:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lueds24: Not a bad idea, but here they banned purchase of all parts that can make an assault weapon. Kinda feel the need to stock pile parts. I already bought “high capacity” mags for guns I don’t even own yet. Easy way around that, is ship parts to friend or family members out of state and take a road trip. That’s what I will do if WA state gets their AWB. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 10:40:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: Even impressed with the 1.5-2 MOA “accuracy”. As I said, this won’t be worth the price tag with that barrel.oh well, I was hoping for sub MOA at the level of quality I was expecting. I gotta wonder why you think it should be a PRS when it wasn't meant to be a PRS. It's a duty rifle, not a Camp Perry rifle. And sub 2 MOA from a heavily used press loaner is not bad at all. |
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Posted: 2/23/2023 11:44:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: I gotta wonder why you think it should be a PRS when it wasn't meant to be a PRS. It's a duty rifle, not a Camp Perry rifle. And sub 2 MOA from a heavily used press loaner is not bad at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: Originally Posted By CavScout: Even impressed with the 1.5-2 MOA “accuracy”. As I said, this won’t be worth the price tag with that barrel.oh well, I was hoping for sub MOA at the level of quality I was expecting. I gotta wonder why you think it should be a PRS when it wasn't meant to be a PRS. It's a duty rifle, not a Camp Perry rifle. And sub 2 MOA from a heavily used press loaner is not bad at all. For the pricepoint again, I said at $4k+ it must be a 1MOA or better rifle. I expect it to come in around $5k though. For whatever the .MIL is paying for it, damn sure better be 1MOA. Another thing is if a rifle is a press rifle and is shot out already? Ummm yeah. Concern. The SCAR 17 was never a sub-moa platform but one in six of them could be, with a G-SCAR trigger. That is an old design now and technology, standards have gone up. I like the idea of the Spear concept but want to see it perform, not in a mediocre way. Since I do not have one yet, I cannot tell where it will go but not everyone can go "Rah rah rah ree ree ree kick em' in the knee!" until we see the proof of performance in our own hands. I will cheer it on if it meets the standard for a modern battle rifle. |
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Posted: 2/24/2023 2:47:21 PM EST
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I don't see anything under 2MOA as mediocre for a service rifle, period. Shit, most shooters can't get sub MOA out of a sub MOA gun anyway.
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Posted: 2/24/2023 6:36:34 PM EST
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What’s taking so long? Need this yesterday!
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Posted: 2/25/2023 1:53:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Croak: I don't see anything under 2MOA as mediocre for a service rifle, period. Shit, most shooters can't get sub MOA out of a sub MOA gun anyway. Agreed 100% |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2023 7:07:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: SpyHawk]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Agreed 100% Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By Croak: I don't see anything under 2MOA as mediocre for a service rifle, period. Shit, most shooters can't get sub MOA out of a sub MOA gun anyway. Agreed 100% The new smart scope for the Army that's part of the NGSW program should theoretically improve the accuracy of the average soldier at distance. Still though, 2MOA ain't bad for an infantry carbine. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 9:53:20 AM EST
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IYKYK
 Disclosure: this post is for entertainment purposes only and shouldn’t be used as documentation for release dates, purchase orders, or spousal money laundering activities. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 11:09:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: IYKYK https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83570/9DC45855-59B2-4509-8FEF-53399034F904-2726025.jpg Disclosure: this post is for entertainment purposes only and shouldn’t be used as documentation for release dates, purchase orders, or spousal money laundering activities. Are we getting a review when it’s approved? 
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Posted: 2/26/2023 11:14:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SMFdarkangel: Are we getting a review when it’s approved? Def. Most anticipated rifle/suppressor combo in years. And this is the guy who sold a kidney last year for a KAC silencer/carbine setup. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:00:05 PM EST
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Posted: 2/27/2023 4:38:54 PM EST
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Posted: 2/27/2023 5:26:05 PM EST
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:00:55 PM EST
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You guys are on the record as accepting 2 MOA from a platinum-tier rifle lol. I will get one as well but have set my expectations accordingly!
Please note: If it shoots as well as the LWRC SMG 45 did then we may have an issue. |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 11:47:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: You guys are on the record as accepting 2 MOA from a platinum-tier rifle lol. I will get one as well but have set my expectations accordingly! Please note: If it shoots as well as the LWRC SMG 45 did then we may have an issue. I’m guessing we get close to 1 MOA with match ammo. I’ll do an MOA all day face off between the SPEAR and SPEAR LT (5.56). Post up your guesses. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 1:35:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: I’m guessing we get close to 1 MOA with match ammo. I’ll do an MOA all day face off between the SPEAR and SPEAR LT (5.56). Post up your guesses. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: Originally Posted By CavScout: You guys are on the record as accepting 2 MOA from a platinum-tier rifle lol. I will get one as well but have set my expectations accordingly! Please note: If it shoots as well as the LWRC SMG 45 did then we may have an issue. I’m guessing we get close to 1 MOA with match ammo. I’ll do an MOA all day face off between the SPEAR and SPEAR LT (5.56). Post up your guesses. I like! |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 10:47:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: JAG2955]
[#27]
It's here!
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:01:01 AM EST
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Where?
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:02:23 AM EST
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:06:13 AM EST
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awesome
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:28:19 AM EST
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!!!
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IL, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:59:11 AM EST
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MSRP $4399.99
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Posted: 2/28/2023 12:33:40 PM EST
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So opinions needed, do I get the 16 inch and hope that barrel kits arent too far along or do I just go sbr route 13 inch right off the rip and get a 16 later. I want the 13 inch barrel for both 308 and 277. I like the idea of having the 16 inch so can i move freely about the country. what are you guys doing and what do you think?
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Posted: 2/28/2023 12:49:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
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They still don't even have full caliber kits for the LT so I would expect like 2 years wait for those barrels n handguards but that's just me, basing it on nothing but pessimism lol
Just noticed there's no Creedmoor version listed there & that was supposed to be first. No idea what's going on anymore :) Think I'd rather have the 8 inch barrel Raptor than this 13in 308 but if there's no Fury yet then doesn't matter much rn |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 2:16:27 PM EST
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/973568665
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Posted: 2/28/2023 4:01:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/973568665 https://media.tenor.com/gjS6II-gxpUAAAAC/clown-drink.gif Let the games begin. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 4:42:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: GrAvril]
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@coregon if my local shop only has a 13” pistol how much trouble am I going to have finding the stock after? Is sig CS going to tell me about how they’re only focusing on full rifles for now
Edit: maybe this is it https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-mpx-folding-magpul-sl-k-stock-and-adapter-fde.html |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 5:06:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: @coregon if my local shop only has a 13” pistol how much trouble am I going to have finding the stock after? Is sig CS going to tell me about how they’re only focusing on full rifles for now Edit: maybe this is it https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-mpx-folding-magpul-sl-k-stock-and-adapter-fde.html That’s it. I’d buy it if that’s your plan. They will go quick. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 5:39:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: That’s it. I’d buy it if that’s your plan. They will go quick. Sheesh that was fast, I missed out |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 5:42:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: That’s it. I’d buy it if that’s your plan. They will go quick. Sound advice. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 6:08:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Sound advice. Assume the other MCX stocks will work on Spear yeah? |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 7:21:55 PM EST
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Me right now, checking dealers and signing up for stock notifications:
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Posted: 2/28/2023 7:29:14 PM EST
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Posted: 2/28/2023 8:17:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: coregon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Assume the other MCX stocks will work on Spear yeah? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By coregon: Sound advice. Assume the other MCX stocks will work on Spear yeah? Absolutely. Same picatinny rail attachment on the rear of the lower. I can mock up different stocks, if its something people want/need to see. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2023 8:22:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Absolutely. Same picatinny rail attachment on the rear of the lower. I can mock up different stocks, if its something people want/need to see. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By coregon: Sound advice. Assume the other MCX stocks will work on Spear yeah? Absolutely. Same picatinny rail attachment on the rear of the lower. I can mock up different stocks, if its something people want/need to see. @Coregon I'd love to see the Spear with the folding/telescoping stock, if it's not too much trouble. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:44:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: @Coregon I'd love to see the Spear with the folding/telescoping stock, if it's not too much trouble. Second this. Also, anyone have any specifics on the difference between these two... https://www.sigsauer.com/minimalist-plus-folding-stock-mcx-mpx.html and https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-mpx-minimalist-plus-locking-folding-stock-minimalist-black.html I would assume size/weight? |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:53:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Second this. Also, anyone have any specifics on the difference between these two... https://www.sigsauer.com/minimalist-plus-folding-stock-mcx-mpx.html and https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-mpx-minimalist-plus-locking-folding-stock-minimalist-black.html I would assume size/weight? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Originally Posted By Zerlak: @Coregon I'd love to see the Spear with the folding/telescoping stock, if it's not too much trouble. Second this. Also, anyone have any specifics on the difference between these two... https://www.sigsauer.com/minimalist-plus-folding-stock-mcx-mpx.html and https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-mpx-minimalist-plus-locking-folding-stock-minimalist-black.html I would assume size/weight? Both are minimalist plus stocks. The second you listed has the new style push button release on the folding mechanism. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:54:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: @Coregon I'd love to see the Spear with the folding/telescoping stock, if it's not too much trouble. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zerlak: Originally Posted By coregon: Originally Posted By GrAvril: Originally Posted By coregon: Sound advice. Assume the other MCX stocks will work on Spear yeah? Absolutely. Same picatinny rail attachment on the rear of the lower. I can mock up different stocks, if its something people want/need to see. @Coregon I'd love to see the Spear with the folding/telescoping stock, if it's not too much trouble. I’ll get some tomorrow |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 1:14:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coregon: Both are minimalist plus stocks. The second you listed has the new style push button release on the folding mechanism. Gracias. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 11:43:09 AM EST
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Anyone know when the 6.5 Creedmore variant is being released?
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