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Posted: 7/27/2022 9:48:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jareds06]
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Originally Posted By Shlouf: m24. 14.5" barrel, gordon collar, and a 1/2 to 11/16 adapter That thing is ridiculously cool. How quiet is it? Also made me want an M24 suppressor and just looked back, very pleased to see Ron is going to make more. I shot him an email to get on a list straight away. So now that's the M4, M24 and AEM5 I'm hopefully going to be purchasing this year! Definitely post some more of that thing! |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 12:34:17 PM EDT
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Ron. Is there a way to get an insert for the 723/727 M4 cut barrel for the Gordon can? The ones that were made will not work. I have one collar made to run the AEM5 that might fit with some material removed off the ID. But the collar that came with the can is for the skinny barrel.
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Posted: 7/27/2022 12:34:42 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2022 12:47:30 PM EDT
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When people ask for a gordon collar. I ask for barrel diameter. Some ask for an undersized collar and plan on cutting it to fit. Not sure why you have an undersized one.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2022 6:23:00 PM EDT
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@k31user
Hey Ron I'm sure you're tired of hearing this but I'm wondering if you got my emails. First name Jared. Just want to make sure I wasn't filtered as spam. Sent to [email protected] Thanks a lot! |
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Posted: 7/28/2022 11:57:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jareds06: @k31user Hey Ron I'm sure you're tired of hearing this but I'm wondering if you got my emails. First name Jared. Just want to make sure I wasn't filtered as spam. Sent to [email protected] Thanks a lot! i think he is covered up with emails. I have emailed 5-6 times trying to place an order for my store. I would imagine sooner or later he will get caught up. it is what it is. I would love to have M24 , AEM5'S, Gordon cans, collars and brakes. trying to get my SOT off the ground is tough. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:30:57 AM EDT
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I reached out to him on here just to make sure I wasn't spam filtered. The email I sent out a little over a month ago never got a reply so I figured it was filtered. Need more on that M24 canned A2 Carbine posted in this thread!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 11:33:10 AM EDT
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I had a self-imposed one email per month rule for reaching out to limit how much I was a part of the problem
 Ron probably just gets too many emails to respond to all and actually make suppressors! I could see the value in a partnership with an SOT to offload the "add me to the list" noise for a premium... These are definitely the businesses I want to support!
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 12:08:10 PM EDT
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I'm going to take tomorrow morning off and work on this. I found 4-5 emails for M4's and M24's and put them in the proper folders and responded back. I'll post when done and anyone that hasn't heard back can
try again. I'd like to get this sorted out before I start on the 2 batches. RonA |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 3:10:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Shlouf]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jareds06: That thing is ridiculously cool. How quiet is it? Also made me want an M24 suppressor and just looked back, very pleased to see Ron is going to make more. I shot him an email to get on a list straight away. So now that's the M4, M24 and AEM5 I'm hopefully going to be purchasing this year! Definitely post some more of that thing! It sounds great. A lot less backpressure with the extra volume and 30 cal hole. I'll try to get some more pics of it this weekend. Still undecided if I want to keep the barrel setup on that gray A2 upper or switch it to a my C7 upper. |
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Posted: 7/29/2022 8:05:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR_DIESEL]
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 PSA 556AK. Barrel chopped with a brake pinned/welded to remain compliant. AEM2. My homage to the ak niner. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 9:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I'm going to take tomorrow morning off and work on this. I found 4-5 emails for M4's and M24's and put them in the proper folders and responded back. I'll post when done and anyone that hasn't heard back can try again. I'd like to get this sorted out before I start on the 2 batches. RonA Ron, I sent you an email tonight regarding a Gordon can Thanks |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2022 10:13:52 PM EDT
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If I may change the topic from emails... the M24 can looks like it is 1” longer than the AEM5-30 however reflexes over the barrel 2” more. My graduate level math courses tells me the M24 can extends the overall length 1” less than the AEM5-30. Other than the overall length, what practical difference is there between the two? Is there a significant difference between sound or flash reduction between? Does one have less gas blowback than the other on a gas gun?
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MS, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 1:14:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I just re-did my emails folders and am transferring orders for AEM5's, M4(Gordons), and M24's into proper folders so I can notify people a bit easier. RonA Thank you! Email sent! |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 1:19:27 AM EDT
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An aside, but relevant - is everyone getting emails when there is a post to this thread? I have all the boxes checked and I get notices about other threads, but not this one. I have to rely on my memory to come and check, lol.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 3:41:07 AM EDT
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Got an AE22 in jail, a Geissele Mk18 rail to cut down by two MLOK slots and I have to find a rifle barrel to cut to 16.5” and away we go.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2022 6:28:10 PM EDT
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@k31user Your website is down.
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Posted: 7/30/2022 10:12:17 PM EDT
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Anyone know the i.d. of the spr collars?
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Posted: 7/31/2022 12:08:24 AM EDT
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@k31user
I also sent an email about a Gordon can, about a month ago. Will resend if needed. Thank! |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 2:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: When people ask for a gordon collar. I ask for barrel diameter. Some ask for an undersized collar and plan on cutting it to fit. Not sure why you have an undersized one. RonA Can I ask for a Gordon collar made for my barrel so I won't have to have it turned down? It's a bushmaster HBAR. Please? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2022 4:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Can I ask for a Gordon collar made for my barrel so I won't have to have it turned down? It's a bushmaster HBAR. Please? Diameter at the front of the bayo lug? |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 4:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Can I ask for a Gordon collar made for my barrel so I won't have to have it turned down? It's a bushmaster HBAR. Please? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: Originally Posted By k31user: When people ask for a gordon collar. I ask for barrel diameter. Some ask for an undersized collar and plan on cutting it to fit. Not sure why you have an undersized one. RonA Can I ask for a Gordon collar made for my barrel so I won't have to have it turned down? It's a bushmaster HBAR. Please? Be precise. If your collar is loose you could have the suppressor out of alignment. If it’s too tight it will not go on. I’m sizing mine on my mill. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 4:15:57 PM EDT
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Ron will make it what you say. So unless you want a press fit collar (you dont) add .001-.002 to whatever Dia you mic it at.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2022 5:17:24 PM EDT
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Question about the contour of the collar itself:
If I wanted to have a gunsmith contour a bolt gun barrel for an AEM5, i.e. for the "collar" to be integral with the barrel, what would be the dimensions I'd need to supply? My understanding is that the collar has a 20 degree taper, but I've searched up and down and I can't seem to find the dimensions on the larger outer diameter of the rear of the collar, or the smaller outer diameter toward the front. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2022 6:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Heavy655: Question about the contour of the collar itself: If I wanted to have a gunsmith contour a bolt gun barrel for an AEM5, i.e. for the "collar" to be integral with the barrel, what would be the dimensions I'd need to supply? My understanding is that the collar has a 20 degree taper, but I've searched up and down and I can't seem to find the dimensions on the larger outer diameter of the rear of the collar, or the smaller outer diameter toward the front. 5/8-24 thread .630 long, then .850 back to 2.5" from bare muzzle, then 20 degree per side (40 degree included angle) taper to a minimum of .920 diameter. RonA |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2022 6:45:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: 5/8-24 thread .630 long, then .850 back to 2.5" from bare muzzle, then 20 degree per side (40 degree included angle) taper to a minimum of .920 diameter. RonA Really appreciate it Ron, from the man himself! I didn't realize the minimum was that low, I guess that means with a .936 block this could even be done on an AR.. extremely helpful, thank you! |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2022 10:01:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: m24. 14.5" barrel, gordon collar, and a 1/2 to 11/16 adapter Any idea how much barrel length is required for the m24 with a rifle length gas? |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 1:36:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kethridge00: Any idea how much barrel length is required for the m24 with a rifle length gas? it reflexes back over the barrel 4.625" how much barrel length you will need would depend on the type of collar being used |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 1:41:45 PM EDT
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Best OPS setup I ever had used a press fit collar. ADCO did it for me.
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AR, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2022 7:59:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: it reflexes back over the barrel 4.625" how much barrel length you will need would depend on the type of collar being used Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: Originally Posted By kethridge00: Any idea how much barrel length is required for the m24 with a rifle length gas? it reflexes back over the barrel 4.625" how much barrel length you will need would depend on the type of collar being used 20" barrel is what I have here with a 15" URX4. This is a Ballistic Advantage barrel which Ron JUST made me 2 custom collars because, even though the barrel is SUPPOSED to be .725, a standard Mk12 Collar would NOT fit. Point to note here, unlike the Mk12 collar, these two collars do not have an internal step down on the inside diameter. These are straight interior walled collars and the base, near end of the collar butts up against the .750 gas block journal.  
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:45:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jareds06]
[#31]
@k31user
Hey Ron, I'm a little confused as to how I'm supposed to get on the list for the Gordon can and M24 can. I sent an initial email asking to be put on the list to which you instructed me to order through my local dealer. I contacted them, they called you and were supposed to put an order for three cans (M4, M24, and AEM5). They emailed me back however and said I needed to email you again with which cans I wanted. Is this correct or should I contact my dealer again to have them place an actual order with you? Posting this in an open forum just in case others are wondering how to get on the list as well. Thanks, Jared |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:11:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jareds06: @k31user Hey Ron, I'm a little confused as to how I'm supposed to get on the list for the Gordon can and M24 can. I sent an initial email asking to be put on the list to which you instructed me to order through my local dealer. I contacted them, they called you and were supposed to put an order for three cans (M4, M24, and AEM5). They emailed me back however and said I needed to email you again with which cans I wanted. Is this correct or should I contact my dealer again to have them place an actual order with you? Posting this in an open forum just in case others are wondering how to get on the list as well. Thanks, Jared Sent you an email. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 1:40:55 PM EDT
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Hi Ron,
I sent you a PM regarding a phone call I had with you as well as some follow on emails. Thanks in advance! |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 5:07:10 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileThanks to steve at adco for contouring the socom. Had to poach my can off the mk12 until the other one is out of jail. Have the new NX8 on back order and will eventually piggyback an RMR. All started by finding the FF ras in the back of the safe. |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 5:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _B_: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/F2A064EE-F6A6-47E5-9AD6-9A1CDBF5E148_jpe-2478355.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/DE131847-DB5A-425E-A189-B8BE22A39748_jpe-2478361.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/4EA63266-BE33-4718-96E2-284254377973_jpe-2478356.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/0E021A90-740E-49B5-9A21-AEF0BAB001D9_jpe-2478357.JPG Thanks to steve at adco for contouring the socom. Had to poach my can off the mk12 until the other one is out of jail. Have the new NX8 on back order and will eventually piggyback an RMR. All started by finding the FF ras in the back of the safe. Interesting take on a mk18ish rifle. I really like it! |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 5:22:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Interesting take on a mk18ish rifle. I really like it! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Originally Posted By _B_: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/F2A064EE-F6A6-47E5-9AD6-9A1CDBF5E148_jpe-2478355.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/DE131847-DB5A-425E-A189-B8BE22A39748_jpe-2478361.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/4EA63266-BE33-4718-96E2-284254377973_jpe-2478356.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/0E021A90-740E-49B5-9A21-AEF0BAB001D9_jpe-2478357.JPG Thanks to steve at adco for contouring the socom. Had to poach my can off the mk12 until the other one is out of jail. Have the new NX8 on back order and will eventually piggyback an RMR. All started by finding the FF ras in the back of the safe. Interesting take on a mk18ish rifle. I really like it!  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 5:39:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wissota4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _B_: Loosely going off this https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/02FA82E9-43D7-443E-813B-AA5DACD9D9E7_jpe-2478392.JPG You literally made a 12.5 mk18 lol, its sweet. I am also trying to make a clone of that gun in the photo, about as retro as I have ever got. Eta it's a work in progress  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 5:46:10 PM EDT
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nice. that's what I have settled on for my m24 can/barrel assembly too
gonna use the AEM5 for the C7 upper setup |
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Posted: 8/5/2022 10:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: nice. that's what I have settled on for my m24 can/barrel assembly too gonna use the AEM5 for the C7 upper setup I kinda of want the m24 can also. I emailed Ron about it just haven't heard back yet. |
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Posted: 8/6/2022 11:34:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodsix: 20" barrel is what I have here with a 15" URX4. This is a Ballistic Advantage barrel which Ron JUST made me 2 custom collars because, even though the barrel is SUPPOSED to be .725, a standard Mk12 Collar would NOT fit. Point to note here, unlike the Mk12 collar, these two collars do not have an internal step down on the inside diameter. These are straight interior walled collars and the base, near end of the collar butts up against the .750 gas block journal. https://i.imgur.com/Qju27CI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/aIbypWQ.jpg @eodsix The straight wall with just the set screw has been enough to hold the collar in place so far? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 12:35:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: You literally made a 12.5 mk18 lol, its sweet. I am also trying to make a clone of that gun in the photo, about as retro as I have ever got. Eta it's a work in progress https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384425/20220726_205659_jpg-2478422.JPG What is your can coated in? Doesn’t look like the normal black… |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 9:26:32 AM EDT
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Yes the set screw is enough. The collar is nice and snug as it's reaches the step. Not "press fit" tight but snug.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 10:47:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rothperson87: What is your can coated in? Doesn’t look like the normal black… It's KG Gunkote. The Ops Inc stuff was coated with it back before the Black Oxide. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 1:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: It's KG Gunkote. The Ops Inc stuff was coated with it back before the Black Oxide. Nice. Are all models getting this treatment from now on or just the Gordon cans? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 1:24:28 PM EDT
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Just the M4(Gordon).
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Posted: 8/7/2022 2:35:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodsix: Yes the set screw is enough. The collar is nice and snug as it's reaches the step. Not "press fit" tight but snug. Good to know!! @k31user have any straight walled collars in the shop? |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 2:35:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rothperson87: What is your can coated in? Doesn’t look like the normal black… I see Ron already answered 
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AR, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 3:35:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wissota4: Good to know!! @k31user have any straight walled collars in the shop? I should make you aware that Ron had my barrel in hand when he made those collars for me, they're custom fitted. I couldn't say if that would work for you. You would have to take that up with Ron. |
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Posted: 8/7/2022 4:05:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodsix: I should make you aware that Ron had my barrel in hand when he made those collars for me, they're custom fitted. I couldn't say if that would work for you. You would have to take that up with Ron. Thats all fine, I can even open one up myself if Ron is busy. Otherwise I'll just mic my barrel for him |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2022 5:04:06 PM EDT
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I have undersized collars but remember that the collar needs to butt up against something. either the gas block or the gas block journal if there isn't a step between the gas block journal and the thread shoulder.
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