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6/21/2019 9:45:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cavegeo:
Has anyone had there Birdshead grip stippled?

I see that Laser Stippling is being offered and think this would be of benefit for a firearms such as this.
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I have a Stippled grip on my Shockwave, it helps a lot.
6/26/2019 6:07:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cherenkov][Edited] [#2]
Anyone try to make a Sidewinder looking variant of the TAC-13 that uses Tailhook Mod 1 with  a top folder style "brace"

Really want one that resembles this.  I may have to modify an ATI top folding (not ruining a factory stock) and with the TAC 13 not adapting well to 870 stocks not sure it will look right.

8/25/2019 11:54:09 AM EDT
[#3]
I am looking for one of these TAC-13s but they are out of stock everywhere.

While I wait for them to come back in stock.

Any updates on what works/doesn't @bigcraig

Do you know what forend is compatible with these? Is it also Versamax?

If a guy could go out and get some wood furniture for this unit I think that would be pretty tits looking in the end.

Some high end Walnut shit like this...
https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/

Are you still happy with this unit? Functions well with all the ammos you feed it?
8/26/2019 3:23:56 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By CBass123:
I am looking for one of these TAC-13s but they are out of stock everywhere.

While I wait for them to come back in stock.

Any updates on what works/doesn't @bigcraig

Do you know what forend is compatible with these? Is it also Versamax?

If a guy could go out and get some wood furniture for this unit I think that would be pretty tits looking in the end.

Some high end Walnut shit like this...
https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/

Are you still happy with this unit? Functions well with all the ammos you feed it?
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So far, the gun has ate all ammo that I have tried. However, I don't run/use any of the cheap stuff anyway. Like any auto shotgun, you have to find what it likes.

GG&G pretty much has all the goodies for the Tac13 now.

Wood furniture, I haven't a clue, as it is not my style.

Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
8/26/2019 9:27:34 PM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By CBass123:
I am looking for one of these TAC-13s but they are out of stock everywhere.

While I wait for them to come back in stock.

Any updates on what works/doesn't @bigcraig

Do you know what forend is compatible with these? Is it also Versamax?

If a guy could go out and get some wood furniture for this unit I think that would be pretty tits looking in the end.

Some high end Walnut shit like this...
https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/

Are you still happy with this unit? Functions well with all the ammos you feed it?
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Probably easiest to just buy the v3 wood variant and cut the barrel down to whatever length you prefer. Much less expensive that way, and the wood furniture will already be relieved for the gas pistons.
8/30/2019 4:10:37 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By hoothrewpoo:

Probably easiest to just buy the v3 wood variant and cut the barrel down to whatever length you prefer. Much less expensive that way, and the wood furniture will already be relieved for the gas pistons.
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I am definitely willing to go this route.

Are there any issues with cycling due to shortening the barrel like with an AR?

What kind of money are we talking about to cut the barrel and move the sights roughly?
8/30/2019 8:24:35 AM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By CBass123:

I am definitely willing to go this route.

Are there any issues with cycling due to shortening the barrel like with an AR?

What kind of money are we talking about to cut the barrel and move the sights roughly?
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Shouldn't be. The gas operation of the V3 works well at just about any length.

@GunCat can do it. He'd have to quote you a price.
8/30/2019 10:39:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore magically got them  Tac-13s back in stock last night.

It is a done deal. Not wood but I also picked up a smokind deal on police stock from Wilson Combat for 75% off.

Next project will have to be all wood.
9/8/2019 4:09:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Brace kit Here
9/9/2019 12:37:05 AM EDT
[#10]
$91 Ergo Tac13 brace adapter
I said "I don't understand", not "Talk slower"......

Sig line edited by M4Madness ;)
9/9/2019 12:08:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
9/14/2019 11:34:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cavegeo][Edited] [#12]
I received my Ergo adapter and brace for my Tac 13.  Still need to take it to the range but the brace make it feel more stable.  Tac 13 next to my 11-87 Tactical.





9/14/2019 1:13:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#13]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
9/14/2019 3:56:26 PM EDT
[#14]
I agree using a set screw would be better than a castle nut.

I pieced this together from two different vendors.  CDNN had two Braces on discount along with the buffer tube kit and a Blackhawk grip (really an Ergo).  I also purchased the adapter directly from Ergo.  Once all the parts showed up took just a few minutes to assemble.  The cost to put this together was much cheaper than either GG&G or Suarez was charging for the similar setup.
9/21/2019 1:58:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#15]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
9/21/2019 5:11:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: emwen][Edited] [#16]
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Great looking lil shotty...How are you liking the Ergo adapter? Does it feel solid?
9/21/2019 5:35:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#17]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
9/21/2019 5:37:15 PM EDT
[#18]
Thanks
10/22/2019 3:45:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
10/26/2019 4:47:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Catalina][Edited] [#20]
Wonderful to see product development for this gun.
10/26/2019 4:50:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#21]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
10/31/2019 6:31:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#22]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
10/31/2019 10:41:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Nice.
Let’s see a pic of the light set.
Which rail is that? Lines up with the stock sight??
11/1/2019 6:32:33 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By Mr_Toyz:
Nice.
Let’s see a pic of the light set.
Which rail is that? Lines up with the stock sight??
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Light is a Stealight Protac using a Thorntail offset mount. I merely added a short piece of rail by drilling some holes in the factory handguard. I did this, so that during cleaning the light and the handguard  comes off as one unit.

The RDS mount and sight assembly is made by Aridus. It will provide a lower co-witness with the RDS. I still might need to source a slightly taller front sight and I finally get around sighting this in with my chosen defense ammo.

If you scroll up the thread some, I have some other pics posted.

Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
11/11/2019 11:22:22 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By bigcraig:

Light is a Stealight Protac using a Thorntail offset mount. I merely added a short piece of rail by drilling some holes in the factory handguard. I did this, so that during cleaning the light and the handguard  comes off as one unit.

The RDS mount and sight assembly is made by Aridus. It will provide a lower co-witness with the RDS. I still might need to source a slightly taller front sight and I finally get around sighting this in with my chosen defense ammo.

If you scroll up the thread some, I have some other pics posted.
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In your opinion is the MESA adapter the way to go and
What grip are you running with it , lastly any progress on finding a front sight?
11/12/2019 12:23:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#26]
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11/16/2019 3:19:48 AM EDT
[#27]
Got an email that SBTactical braces now available for this.  Question is SBA3 OR SBA4?  A4 looks better IMO, but it looks like it might not leave a lot of room for your arm/hand behind the pistol grip fully collapsed.  Can anyone comment?
11/16/2019 8:43:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#28]
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11/16/2019 10:47:26 AM EDT
[#29]
I have pretty much zero experience with braces, which is why I ask.  I don't want to run into any... "functionality" problems.  Aesthetics is nice, but a distant secondary concern.
11/16/2019 1:23:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#30]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
11/26/2019 7:49:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HK_DUDE][Edited] [#31]
I joined to club today. Bought the only one I could find locally. $749 plus tax...didn't think that was too bad.

I ordered the ergo brace/grip adaptor from Brownels. Both them and Ergo direct are back ordered. That will give me a chance to shoot it as is until it arrives.

I chose the ergo over the Mesa just because the Mesa grip angle looks all jacked up to me...the ergo looks more normal. We shall see.

Someone should make an aluminum MLOK forearm so I can add a short vertical foregrip😁
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
11/27/2019 8:49:27 AM EDT
[#32]
Not knowing anything about the V3, other than it exists, would it be worth buying and SBSing?
11/27/2019 1:07:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Fired the first, very informal shots just minutes ago.

3 S&B 00 buck, 3 Federal game #6s and 4 Federal multipurpose #7.5s (older packaged wally world 100 pack).

All ran perfect. This is what it is like to have a semi-auto that actually does work with light loads.

Outstanding!
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
11/27/2019 1:17:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By cone256:
Not knowing anything about the V3, other than it exists, would it be worth buying and SBSing?
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I think it would make a great SBS.
BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.

People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
11/27/2019 3:56:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fmj_shooter][Edited] [#35]
Wrong quote.

Fixed

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Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
Fired the first, very informal shots just minutes ago.

3 S&B 00 buck, 3 Federal game #6s and 4 Federal multipurpose #7.5s (older packaged wally world 100 pack).

All ran perfect. This is what it is like to have a semi-auto that actually does work with light loads.

Outstanding!
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They run amazingly well. We've fed all kinds of different rounds through ours without issue.
11/28/2019 9:32:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#36]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
11/28/2019 9:38:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#37]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
11/28/2019 11:15:32 AM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By bigcraig:
I am not trying to change your mind, but the weird angle of the Mesa grip is only an issue when choosing which grip to use. For whatever reason, I think Mesa took into account that most folks are going to the K-grip/ more vertical hand grips, and just designed to adapter with the extra down angle. I wish they had not done so, as I am a BIG fan of the Magpul K2+.

Other than that, the Mesa is the superior product. IMHO

However, if the Ergo is the way you want to go, and it stays on backorder too long for you. Just PM me, as I have one on the shelf because I changed it out for the Mesa.
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Originally Posted By bigcraig:
Originally Posted By HK_DUDE:
I joined to club today. Bought the only one I could find locally. $749 plus tax...didn't think that was too bad.

I ordered the ergo brace/grip adaptor from Brownels. Both them and Ergo direct are back ordered. That will give me a chance to shoot it as is until it arrives.

I chose the ergo over the Mesa just because the Mesa grip angle looks all jacked up to me...the ergo looks more normal. We shall see.

Someone should make an aluminum MLOK forearm so I can add a short vertical foregrip😁
I am not trying to change your mind, but the weird angle of the Mesa grip is only an issue when choosing which grip to use. For whatever reason, I think Mesa took into account that most folks are going to the K-grip/ more vertical hand grips, and just designed to adapter with the extra down angle. I wish they had not done so, as I am a BIG fan of the Magpul K2+.

Other than that, the Mesa is the superior product. IMHO

However, if the Ergo is the way you want to go, and it stays on backorder too long for you. Just PM me, as I have one on the shelf because I changed it out for the Mesa.
Thanks for your input....and I will keep you posted.
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
12/8/2019 4:19:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HK_DUDE][Edited] [#39]
Been running a few more rounds through the Tac 13 here and there.

I am enjoying shooting it so much with just the factory grip, I don't know how much of a hurry I am in to add the brace, etc...

Bought a scabbord that is designed for an 18" shotgun, so the tac 13 is fully enclosed by it. I kinda like it that way.

Attached a molle pack to the front to hold some shells. That along with the shoulder sling make it a 1 package grab and go.

My KSG hasn't been feeling the love lately.
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
12/10/2019 3:49:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#40]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
12/10/2019 4:02:26 PM EDT
[#41]
I previously owned a shockwave with a brace. Liked it alot, ended up selling it. I can't even remember why I sold it.

Agreed, the brace on that pump was the only way to roll.

That is also why I have not cancelled my brace adaptor back order with Brownells.

It's good to have choices!!
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
1/4/2020 12:41:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Keep this thread near the top.
1/4/2020 3:17:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mr_Toyz][Edited] [#43]
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1/6/2020 4:31:48 AM EDT
[#44]
Just to clarify,

Ergo uses the castle nut to lock in the brace tube but needs no shim. Mesa uses a set screw and castle nut but needs a neutral shim.

I ask because I jumped on one of the Suarez folding brace adapters before i figured out it needed a stamp. It will end up on the EE but i would like to brace this thing legally.

So which one and why?
"All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world. So there was only one thing that I could do, ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long "
1/6/2020 2:50:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigcraig][Edited] [#45]
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Originally Posted By swingset:


Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
1/7/2020 1:00:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HK_DUDE][Edited] [#46]
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Originally Posted By Digger440:
Just to clarify,

Ergo uses the castle nut to lock in the brace tube but needs no shim. Mesa uses a set screw and castle nut but needs a neutral shim.

I ask because I jumped on one of the Suarez folding brace adapters before i figured out it needed a stamp. It will end up on the EE but i would like to brace this thing legally.

So which one and why?
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I did receive my Ergo grip/brace adaptor and am very impressed. It looks very well made and I like parallel and perpendicular lines. The looks (I know, looks don't mean everything) of the Mesa grip angle just looks so odd to me, that I know it would drive me crazy....that is just me.

I do not have a mesa Tac 13 to compare it to, but I have had at least 2 other Mesa adaptors in the recent past. This ergo one looks way better IN MY OPINION compared to what those were like. I remember having to shim the one for my Shockwave 14 because the buffer tube had a noticable angle with the ass going upward.

The ergo is missing a QD sling pocket, but I never use that spot for an attachment point anyway. Even with ARs, I use the QD pocket on the stock/brace. I also am not a 1 point sling fan...for the record. If you want to use a one point sling, that may effect you.

It is also missing a way to lock the buffer tube so it cannot rotate....above and beyond the castle nut. I have only shot a few quick rounds through it with the brace in place, so IF it rotates...and it may. I will simply drill and tap a hole from the bottom side and add a small button head cap screw. One shouldn't have to do this, but I seem to always be needing to do something to make most guns/accessories just the way I need them.

I have a mill/drill press and proper tapping tools, so It will be easy peasy.

My opion is all, but I really like my ergo adaptor.

Oh, one other thing to note. If you use a magpul MIAD grip on it, you will notice that the grip itself has slight chamfers/tapers at the front...for comfort, I assume. With this, the adaptor where the front of the grip meets it is a little wider then that narrowed area of the grip. It isn't sharp or anything, just may be a pet peave for some. I ended up ordering a ergo flattop sure grip in grey...assuming that will fit perfectly, although I am not a big ergo grip fan, I will try it out. Should arrive in a few days.

Pics....please do not judge, I just started ripping apart my gun room to clean and organize:)

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O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
1/9/2020 10:09:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HK_DUDE][Edited] [#47]
I am looking to add a front sling swivel in a "Better" spot. I like 2 point slings and when I use the way forward factory spot, the sling gets in the way of my left hand when accessing the forearm.

On my KSG and RDB bullpups, I added a QD pocket on the top rail, just in front of my RDS. This works pretty well actually.

I would just buy the GG&G top rail, but I kinda want to keep this simple with no added sight..was just going to add a fiber optic slightly higher front bead/sight.

Is there any vent rib side mounted QD socket that anyone is aware of? I have googled the $hit out of it with no luck.

If I do ho with a top rail and a reddot, I wish they made one that extend a few inches forward of the receiver, would like to mount it little further forward, and then add a typical rail mounted QD sling pocket.

Anyone have any ideas that I am not thinking of?

I did see a universal vent rib mounted extend cantilever style rail that looks like it may fit the bill, but also afraid that how it mounts to the rib, that it may be a little hokey.

I haven't even taken the gun apart yet. Maybe a noveske type QD pocket could fit somewhere on the side toward the rear of the forarm. I should look at that before doing anything. Just need to see if there is a usable spot that I can drill a 1/2" hole and clearance on the back for the backing plate.
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
1/10/2020 2:07:10 AM EDT
[#48]
Got the Ergo today and bolted it up.  Velcro side saddle, Vortex rds, TLR1-HL with pressure switch. I still have to find a sling I put away somewhere.

With its bigger 1100 brother

"All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world. So there was only one thing that I could do, ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long "
1/10/2020 11:41:54 AM EDT
[#49]
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Originally Posted By Digger440:
Got the Ergo today and bolted it up.  Velcro side saddle, Vortex rds, TLR1-HL with pressure switch. I still have to find a sling I put away somewhere.

With its bigger 1100 brother

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/1263/DUgi6h.jpg
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Very nice!

If I do end up adding a mount and red dot, it will be very similar to what you have. How is the height of the optic?
O.K....I sold all my HKs, but I have to keep my Identity!
1/10/2020 5:33:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Perfect SBS host:

Rem V3 SBS by Two Sierra, on Flickr
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I know you're a SF whore . . . . .

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