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Posted: 11/29/2023 8:54:28 PM EDT
[#1]
I like the magazine release, its just got a bit more purchase. Is it necessary? No, but its nice.
The magwell is nicely flared and fits really well. I think its a very good improvement. However, the area in front of the magwell, where it wraps around, touches your wrist in some instances. Is it a deal killer? No, but its occupying space your hand likes to use. |
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Posted: 11/30/2023 1:42:51 PM EDT
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Pics that dont suck as bad:
 C7A2DE25-AAD5-4198-B148-C84E3B56A27A_1_201_a by MajorLeagueHooker, on Flickr B6C23B8B-71AD-40C6-A5B6-3BF3DF8B0965_1_102_o by MajorLeagueHooker, on Flickr
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Posted: 11/30/2023 2:25:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII:
Pics that dont suck as bad: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53366632671_f53fc477b0_b.jpgC7A2DE25-AAD5-4198-B148-C84E3B56A27A_1_201_a by MajorLeagueHooker, on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53367082370_5ff61d5cf2_b.jpgB6C23B8B-71AD-40C6-A5B6-3BF3DF8B0965_1_102_o by MajorLeagueHooker, on Flickr |
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Posted: 11/30/2023 2:37:13 PM EDT
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I only installed them together, but I would think the little clip on magazine release would be kinda required to really clear the magwell flare. But Im sure it works without it.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 7:07:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KCGewehr]
[#5]
The 18" and 20" variants are now available.
Note the safety selector has been redesigned. Greatly improved. It shows the redesigned safety on the 18" and 20" variants, but not the 16" variant. I'm assuming the design change will be implemented for all variants in the future.  Attached File Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/1/2023 7:41:52 PM EDT
[#6]
The FDE, ODG, and grey 16" guns show the updated safety in promo pics.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 8:21:08 PM EDT
[#7]
The lever arm on the Manticore safety is longer which makes operation easier.
Speaking of Manticore, I am waiting (im)patiently for them to release their next product. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 9:24:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JK-919: The FDE, ODG, and grey 16" guns show the updated safety in promo pics. Can confirm. I just picked up my ODG 16" version and it has the updated safety. I will try to post pics soon. |
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Posted: 12/2/2023 12:48:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChengSMGT: The lever arm on the Manticore safety is longer which makes operation easier. Speaking of Manticore, I am waiting (im)patiently for them to release their next product. Parts for our second product are in house and being assembled, and it should be up on the webstore this coming week. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 12/2/2023 8:08:38 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Parts for our second product are in house and being assembled, and it should be up on the webstore this coming week. Sven Manticore Arms That's good news. Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/2/2023 12:48:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Can confirm. I just picked up my ODG 16" version and it has the updated safety. I will try to post pics soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Originally Posted By JK-919: The FDE, ODG, and grey 16" guns show the updated safety in promo pics. Can confirm. I just picked up my ODG 16" version and it has the updated safety. I will try to post pics soon. Very happy w/ this purchase. Threw a spare Holosun 403C I had until I can save up for something better. Need to get a light and a VFG as well. Can't wait to get it to the range.  
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Posted: 12/2/2023 1:05:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Very happy w/ this purchase. Threw a spare Holosun 403C I had until I can save up for something better. Need to get a light and a VFG as well. Can't wait to get it to the range. https://i.imgur.com/T1SSG0b.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lJu47fg.jpg The green looks great! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2023 1:17:41 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Very happy w/ this purchase. Threw a spare Holosun 403C I had until I can save up for something better. Need to get a light and a VFG as well. Can't wait to get it to the range. https://i.imgur.com/T1SSG0b.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lJu47fg.jpg Wish that mine was green! But I don't want to go through the process of selling and buying a new one, so I'll stick with black. |
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Posted: 12/2/2023 3:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: Wish that mine was green! But I don't want to go through the process of selling and buying a new one, so I'll stick with black. There is a third option.... will likely rattlecan my VHS soon. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2023 3:59:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Has anyone heard anything about G36 magwells like the original? I seem to remember there was some info that they were being sold by Springfield in other countries with a G36 magwell. I haven’t been able to find anything else about it an I’m beginning to think I imagined the whole thing lol.
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USA
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Posted: 12/2/2023 4:29:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Very happy w/ this purchase. Threw a spare Holosun 403C I had until I can save up for something better. Need to get a light and a VFG as well. Can't wait to get it to the range. https://i.imgur.com/T1SSG0b.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lJu47fg.jpg Looks great! Man I hope they offer the 20” in green |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 12/2/2023 7:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CitizenKane: Has anyone heard anything about G36 magwells like the original? I seem to remember there was some info that they were being sold by Springfield in other countries with a G36 magwell. I haven’t been able to find anything else about it an I’m beginning to think I imagined the whole thing lol. Got it a little backwards. Springfield is selling the in the US for HS Produkt in Croatia. https://hs-produkt.hr/ |
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Posted: 12/2/2023 8:22:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Just got my Lunartech Bolt and Mag Release install was easy and the bolt release is definitely worth it. Time will tell on the mag release.
Next add on is the Manticore Safety assembly which I will be adding early next year and cant want to see what else they release.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/2/2023 10:35:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Could someone take a pic w/ their stock in, & then the rifle in the same position w/ the stock out so we can get an idea of LOP from the left shoulder?
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Posted: 12/2/2023 11:52:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Could someone take a pic w/ their stock in, & then the rifle in the same position w/ the stock out so we can get an idea of LOP from the left shoulder? Iirc, LOP collapsed is 16”, fully extended is 20(!)” Most bullpups have a 14-15” LOP Most conventional rifles have around 13” LOP Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:08:31 AM EDT
[#21]
The LOP is my hang-up. Granted I've never fired one, but I've handled one. I'm short, and that 16" is incredibly awkward feeling to me, which is too bad because they seem solid otherwise.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:32:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: The LOP is my hang-up. Granted I've never fired one, but I've handled one. I'm short, and that 16" is incredibly awkward feeling to me, which is too bad because they seem solid otherwise. How short is short? I'm 5'9" and I don't think the LoP is that big a deal at all when fully collapsed. Now, I haven't fired mine, but I've been practicing reloads with it to figure out what method of releasing the bolt I like best, and I don't really think it's going to be an issue for me. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 1:29:09 PM EDT
[#23]
I don't think you can necessarily use a person's height as an indicator of how they handle LOP. Arm length would be a better indicator of that.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2023 1:40:18 PM EDT
[#24]
Im 6'2"
The Hellion LOP is rather long, even on me and I shoot other bullpups. I do prefer my shocks a bit shorter on my non-bullpup guns if that makes sense (14"). |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 1:41:29 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm 5' 6" and have no issues with LOP.
Bullpups don't handle like regular carbines. People have been gravitating towards shorter and shorter LOPs but it doesn't work with bullpups. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 1:55:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
[#26]
I’m 5’11 and the LOP doesn’t bother me … it is one of the only two bullies besides an Aug that I’ve been able to really transition with without feeling I have a 2x6 in my shoulders if that makes sense.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:21:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joescuba]
[#27]
What slings are people using? I need to pick up a sling for mine.
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Posted: 12/3/2023 6:37:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joescuba: What slings are people using? I need to pick up a sling for mine. I use Ferro Padded Slingster almost exclusively and will for this one. I use on on my 11.5" SBR w/o issue so I have no doubt it will work fine on this as well. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/3/2023 8:41:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joescuba: What slings are people using? I need to pick up a sling for mine. Magpul MS4 dual QD, works well |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 10:47:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: I use Ferro Padded Slingster almost exclusively and will for this one. I use on on my 11.5" SBR w/o issue so I have no doubt it will work fine on this as well. Same. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 11:15:17 AM EDT
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I got a sling from Strapworks with HK clips. It's okay, not my favorite. But I went with the HK clips because i don't like QD sockets that don't limit rotation.
Clip worked fine on the front metal attatchment point, but I couldn't get it to work on the plastic attachment point on the stock. So I had to use a paracord loop and attach to that. I don't love it, but it functions. 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:51:08 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joescuba: What slings are people using? I need to pick up a sling for mine. Griffin armament Pinch Hitter Sling  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:54:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Magpul MS4 dual QD, works well Same. |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 2:29:18 PM EDT
[#34]
How is everyone mounting lights to their rifle? I'm wanting to use a Streamlight HL-X, but I've watched a video (that I now can't find) that mentioned a standard straight mount for a scout won't work due to the small bump where the notches of the handguard are.
Also, are there any non-obvious places to make sure oil/grease is applied or to avoid? |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 6:04:34 PM EDT
[#35]
Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore.
Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms  
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Posted: 12/5/2023 6:08:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2023 6:20:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg Outstanding! |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 6:45:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg Oh now that is fascinating. "Cleans up" the rifle nicely too. |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 7:05:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Paulie771]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg How bad is the install? ETA: order placed! |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 8:38:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RottenPumpkin: Outstanding! Agreed, looks like a good upgrade |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 12:42:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg This is great for folks needing it, so you have a side by side picture with a VHS-2 that doesn’t have the mod so people can clearly see the change? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2023 1:11:00 AM EDT
[#42]
Glad I waited! Ordered that butt pad, and the Lunar Tech extended bolt release. Hoping the aftermarket keeps coming up with good products.
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Posted: 12/6/2023 9:10:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: Glad I waited! Ordered that butt pad, and the Lunar Tech extended bolt release. Hoping the aftermarket keeps coming up with good products. I am glad as well ... just waiting on the right mag conversion or mag funnel myself ... I truly believe ... after trying all the bullpups available to us ... the Hellion is my all-time favorite bullpup platform to date! |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 9:29:13 AM EDT
[#44]
It seems almost too simple to be true but the ergonomic improvements of the Manticore curved buttpads are magical. Completely changed (for the better) the handling of the Tavor 7. This looks to be just the same.
I'm not bothered by the LOP of the OEM stock but this will be an improvement for a lot of folks in that regard too. |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 10:16:24 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Findsman: It seems almost too simple to be true but the ergonomic improvements of the Manticore curved buttpads are magical. Completely changed (for the better) the handling of the Tavor 7. This looks to be just the same. I'm not bothered by the LOP of the OEM stock but this will be an improvement for a lot of folks in that regard too. Agreed! |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 10:46:31 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg That looks great! I had a curved pad on my SAR before I (stupidly) sold it. Out of curiosity, is this the shortest the LOP the Hellion can get (ignoring SBR issues)? |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 11:15:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: That looks great! I had a curved pad on my SAR before I (stupidly) sold it. Out of curiosity, is this the shortest the LOP the Hellion can get (ignoring SBR issues)? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg That looks great! I had a curved pad on my SAR before I (stupidly) sold it. Out of curiosity, is this the shortest the LOP the Hellion can get (ignoring SBR issues)? Yes, this is physically about as short as the Hellion LOP can get at 15.5" with our Hellion Curved Buttpad. (OEM length of pull is 16.5 - 18.25") Ignoring NFA you might be able to shave a little more off by removing the rubber buttpad, but ultimately you run into the cheekpiece and your face starts getting crammed against the rear of the rail and into the rear iron sight. This is about the "sweet spot" of as short as possible while still being functional and ergonomic. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 11:16:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: This is great for folks needing it, so you have a side by side picture with a VHS-2 that doesn’t have the mod so people can clearly see the change? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Alright boys, you have been very patient, and our new Hellion Curved Buttpad is now up for sale on our webstore. Aluminum construction, it reduces the length of pull 1", adds 1" of length to the toe, plus the curved shape makes it lock into your shoulder much better than the OEM buttpad. Sven Manticore Arms https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_6_Edit-3050441.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Hellion_Curved_Buttpad_11_EDIT-3050442.jpg This is great for folks needing it, so you have a side by side picture with a VHS-2 that doesn’t have the mod so people can clearly see the change? @MAKAK47 Great idea! Here you go, and I will also add it to the product pictures on our webstore. Sven Manticore Arms  |
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Posted: 12/6/2023 11:58:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @MAKAK47 Great idea! Here you go, and I will also add it to the product pictures on our webstore. Sven Manticore Armshttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Helllion_Curved_Buttpad_13-3051039.jpg Good stuff! So if someone has an 18” or 20” barrel model, could they get a completely flat version without worrying about SBR since the OAL in longer than the 16” model? |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:22:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @MAKAK47 Great idea! Here you go, and I will also add it to the product pictures on our webstore. Sven Manticore Armshttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/368252/Helllion_Curved_Buttpad_13-3051039.jpg Are the sockets anti-rotational? |
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