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Posted: 5/29/2024 12:54:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MikeMilligan]
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If anyone's looking for one of the elusive Otis cleaning kits, this place has them:
https://store.armyproperty.com/products/otis-cleaning-system-4-6mm-mp7-nsn-1005-01-605-8191.html The sale price is four bucks more than the price the Otis website lists for agency purchases. These don't seem to be available on the Otis site although I haven't called Otis to see if they have any in stock. Alternatively, there's one listed on gunbroker for $325 
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Posted: 5/29/2024 4:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: If anyone's looking for one of the elusive Otis cleaning kits, this place has them: https://store.armyproperty.com/products/otis-cleaning-system-4-6mm-mp7-nsn-1005-01-605-8191.html The sale price is four bucks more than the price the Otis website lists for agency purchases. These don't seem to be available on the Otis site although I haven't called Otis to see if they have any in stock. Alternatively, there's one listed on gunbroker for $325 Don't overlook the fine text at the bottom that says "30-day lead time." 
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Posted: 5/29/2024 5:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: If anyone's looking for one of the elusive Otis cleaning kits, this place has them: https://store.armyproperty.com/products/otis-cleaning-system-4-6mm-mp7-nsn-1005-01-605-8191.html The sale price is four bucks more than the price the Otis website lists for agency purchases. These don't seem to be available on the Otis site although I haven't called Otis to see if they have any in stock. Alternatively, there's one listed on gunbroker for $325 They won’t deliver. They were discontinued by Otis. I bought their last stock for the T4.6’s. The kits have sold all the way up to $500 on GB so that pricing isn’t exactly out of line. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 6:01:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Confirmed by several on HKPro but you can call Otis and order straight from them.
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Posted: 5/29/2024 6:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nzfly: They won’t deliver. They were discontinued by Otis. I bought their last stock for the T4.6’s. The kits have sold all the way up to $500 on GB so that pricing isn’t exactly out of line. Thanks but can you clarify this statement? Will a kit come with the T7? |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 6:52:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: Thanks but can you clarify this statement? Will a kit come with the T7? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: Originally Posted By Nzfly: They won’t deliver. They were discontinued by Otis. I bought their last stock for the T4.6’s. The kits have sold all the way up to $500 on GB so that pricing isn’t exactly out of line. Thanks but can you clarify this statement? Will a kit come with the T7? “Stock” might have been a confusing term, inventory would be more specific. They had to get the warehouse guys go and actually lay eyes on the number of remaining kits they had. I bought the remaining 14 kits. 10 of the kits were included in the T4.6’s custom cut hard cases along with the armorer’s tools. The T7 will not come with a kit, as the T4.6 were parts kit builds with prototype receivers. Originally Posted By BBOHACH: Confirmed by several on HKPro but you can call Otis and order straight from them. They must have added it back on the menu, perhaps because of the CMMG chambered in 4.6. The dealer price list didn’t have them on it past 2021. So, either the guys on pro are fibbing or Otis has changed their mind. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 7:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nzfly: “Stock” might have been a confusing term, inventory would be more specific. They had to get the warehouse guys go and actually lay eyes on the number of remaining kits they had. I bought the remaining 14 kits. 10 of the kits were included in the T4.6’s custom cut hard cases along with the armorer’s tools. The T7 will not come with a kit, as the T4.6 were parts kit builds with prototype receivers. They must have added it back on the menu, perhaps because of the CMMG chambered in 4.6. The dealer price list didn’t have them on it past 2021. So, either the guys on pro are fibbing or Otis has changed their mind. Got it, thank you. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 7:44:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Norinco982lover]
[#8]
Just an update, I received my thread adapter from shooters box for converting 12x1RH to 1/2x28. It’s made for Walther G22 or cetme L 5.56 rifles.
It appears that it will work if the threading is correct. Still trying to source a single 40 round magazine. Haven’t had much luck.   
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Posted: 5/30/2024 9:59:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: Got it, thank you. I bought one from Otis about a month ago. It only took 2 weeks to ship, even though the website said 6-8 weeks. I did have to call the order in. |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 3:06:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hecklerjones: I bought one from Otis about a month ago. It only took 2 weeks to ship, even though the website said 6-8 weeks. I did have to call the order in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hecklerjones: Originally Posted By MikeMilligan: Got it, thank you. I bought one from Otis about a month ago. It only took 2 weeks to ship, even though the website said 6-8 weeks. I did have to call the order in. I called Otis and the nice customer service girl told me the kits are for sale on the site now - item number MFG-110-46 Just ordered one. |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 3:51:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/30/2024 6:12:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KCGewehr: Link to the MP7 kits: Coupon code: WELCOME10 for 10% off https://otistec.com/4-6mm-mp7-cleaning-kit/ I'll see your 10% and raise you 20% THANKYOU20 |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 6:17:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KCGewehr: Link to the MP7 kits: Coupon code: WELCOME10 for 10% off https://otistec.com/4-6mm-mp7-cleaning-kit/ I just bought another one, because one is none and two is one. |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 9:00:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: If anyone's looking for one of the elusive Otis cleaning kits, this place has them: https://store.armyproperty.com/products/otis-cleaning-system-4-6mm-mp7-nsn-1005-01-605-8191.html The sale price is four bucks more than the price the Otis website lists for agency purchases. These don't seem to be available on the Otis site although I haven't called Otis to see if they have any in stock. Alternatively, there's one listed on gunbroker for $325 I did order one but they came back immediately and refunded saying it was unavailable. But then I did order from Otis directly through the new link. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 10:29:50 AM EDT
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Got a cleaning kit ordered, any other goodies I need to pick up before the t7 arrives? Still debating on a optic
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Posted: 5/31/2024 10:37:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dhall0101: Got a cleaning kit ordered, any other goodies I need to pick up before the t7 arrives? Still debating on a optic I ordered some airsoft sights from Hong Kong for $80 that'll get me through until regular priced mp7 sights are available if I even bother. They seem pretty decent from other reports. I already have the Zpoint/RSA red dot for it on my M11/9. i picked up an airsoft MP7a1 rear sling mount to test out, but will likely use either the magpul qd sling mount or the loop for a single point. Then Steiner CQBL and Vampire w/modbutton combo for IR/Light. B&T can when I decide whether I like the mp7 enough to keep, I have like 11 pdw/sub machine gun style things mix of f/a and semi going on, space is at a premium on my gun wall. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 1:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dhall0101: Got a cleaning kit ordered, any other goodies I need to pick up before the t7 arrives? Still debating on a optic Seems like every accessory associated with the MP7/T7 is sold out except for the flip grip and cleaning kits. I'd focus on the optic search, and I'm watching this thread and the HKPRO thread for info on the best optic mount that can co-witness with backup sites. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 6:43:47 PM EDT
[#18]
First report on a pre-production model on HK forum says their gun was FTF and FTE with fiocchi but worked with 15 rounds of hornady black.
I only have fiocchi ammo so makes me a bit nervous. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 6:49:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover: First report on a pre-production model on HK forum says their gun was FTF and FTE with fiocchi but worked with 15 rounds of hornady black. I only have fiocchi ammo so makes me a bit nervous. The majority of all guns I’ve ever owned needed about 100-200 rounds to break in. I imagine it’s about the exact same issue and lack of lubricant. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 10:19:03 PM EDT
[#20]
I think someone on hkpro said tom suggested the griffin mk2 sights if you didn't want to go for hks.
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Posted: 6/1/2024 7:32:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover: First report on a pre-production model on HK forum says their gun was FTF and FTE with fiocchi but worked with 15 rounds of hornady black. I only have fiocchi ammo so makes me a bit nervous. Regarding the FTE, the pressure of the Fiocchi (FMJ or JSP) vs any other offerings (Hornady, S&B, or RUAG) is anywhere from 150 MPa to 275 MPa less. Hornady has the highest pressure. But when you consider Hornady was toping the scale at approximately 375 MPa the Fiocchi numbers are rather shocking. Regarding the FTF, JSP will always be an issue feeding. The Hornady should be more reliable than a lead point, but still more friction than FMJ. |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 11:12:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nzfly: Regarding the FTE, the pressure of the Fiocchi (FMJ or JSP) vs any other offerings (Hornady, S&B, or RUAG) is anywhere from 150 MPa to 275 MPa less. Hornady has the highest pressure. But when you consider Hornady was toping the scale at approximately 375 MPa the Fiocchi numbers are rather shocking. Regarding the FTF, JSP will always be an issue feeding. The Hornady should be more reliable than a lead point, but still more friction than FMJ. @Nzfly do you have an ammo you recommend? I only stocked the fiocchi JSP 
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Posted: 6/1/2024 2:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover: @Nzfly do you have an ammo you recommend? I only stocked the fiocchi JSP The S&B FMJ had virtually the same pressures as the Hornady. People need to start hammering S&B, and RUAG to offer more - long shot thought. https://trueshotammo.com/ammunition/rifle-ammo/4-6x30-ammo/sellier-bellot/sellier-bellot-4-6x30-hk-40-grain-fmj/?attribute_pa_quantity=2400 |
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Posted: 6/1/2024 2:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nzfly: The S&B FMJ had virtually the same pressures as the Hornady. People need to start hammering S&B, and RUAG to offer more - long shot thought. https://trueshotammo.com/ammunition/rifle-ammo/4-6x30-ammo/sellier-bellot/sellier-bellot-4-6x30-hk-40-grain-fmj/?attribute_pa_quantity=2400 Thank you. Bought some of that and some hornady black to try. Assuming I got one because my card was charged even though I never got an email  hopefully just because I used a yahoo email.
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Posted: 6/3/2024 10:10:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover: Thank you. Bought some of that and some hornady black to try. Assuming I got one because my card was charged even though I never got an email hopefully just because I used a yahoo email.These guys have some interesting rounds. Their FPS exceed the Hornady. https://www.vanguardoutfittersllc.com/46x30-custom-ammo/x30-pre-order-ammo-1476/vanguard-outfitters-46x30-exp-expanding-31-grain-4943369 |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 6:59:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
[#26]
Set up instock notices people and use your phone number as the email so they come as a text. Just check your provider, usually something like [email protected], mile high shooting had 40rd mags for $89.95 Gone in seconds, don't get greedy and try order 50, go for two smaller orders after
The first one goes through. Hopefully my 15 ship. Done with mags! Maybe to trade for a 20rd one and some 30s I've found I get the fake email texts way faster than the emails through att and alerts me instantly. hopefully more vendors get stock. Nature is healing! |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 7:31:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Norinco982lover]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: Set up instock notices people and use your phone number as the email so they come as a text. Just check your provider, usually something like [email protected], mile high shooting had 40rd mags for $89.95 Gone in seconds, don't get greedy and try order 50, go for two smaller orders after The first one goes through. Hopefully my 15 ship. Done with mags! Maybe to trade for a 20rd one and some 30s I've found I get the fake email texts way faster than the emails through att and alerts me instantly. hopefully more vendors get stock. Nature is healing! You bought 15? lol. I got 1. I’m ecstatic. |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 9:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: …don't get greedy and try order 50… Hopefully my 15 ship. … 
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Posted: 6/5/2024 7:00:52 AM EDT
[#29]
I’ll probably get some 40 rounders from the second large drop Hk sends. The first large drop will be sold out with guys who lived through the AWB buying 30, and then 28 of them will sit unopened in their packaging forever.
Yeah I’ve been around this gun hobby for a while. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 9:02:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: I’ll probably get some 40 rounders from the second large drop Hk sends. The first large drop will be sold out with guys who lived through the AWB buying 30, and then 28 of them will sit unopened in their packaging forever. Yeah I’ve been around this gun hobby for a while. This sounds 100% spot on. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 9:25:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeMilligan: I'll probably get some 40 rounders from the second large drop Hk sends. The first large drop will be sold out with guys who lived through the AWB buying 30, and then 28 of them will sit unopened in their packaging forever. Yeah I've been around this gun hobby for a while. but yeah nailed it. AWB, never forget, kicked in just before I bought my first gun from a gun store at 21. I'll probably open 5. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 11:11:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827: This sounds 100% spot on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827: Originally Posted By MikeMilligan: I’ll probably get some 40 rounders from the second large drop Hk sends. The first large drop will be sold out with guys who lived through the AWB buying 30, and then 28 of them will sit unopened in their packaging forever. Yeah I’ve been around this gun hobby for a while. This sounds 100% spot on. IMHO, that’s being charitable. People will buy 30 to sell 20 at a profit. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 11:53:00 AM EDT
[#33]
I ordered 3, I’ll be happy to get any.
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Posted: 6/5/2024 3:12:04 PM EDT
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The one I ordered already shipped.
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Posted: 6/9/2024 6:10:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2024 6:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_3394_jpeg-3237001.JPG One Reddit pic of Slade shooting one of these and the FDE version will be the new hotness. |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_3394_jpeg-3237001.JPG I've got a black T7 on the way, but all these cool RAL pics make me wonder if I should get a tan one too... I was reminded of a photo I snapped back in 2016: I'd never seen tan ones before so took a pic. These were well before the RAL ones were "common".  Eh, I always liked the classic black ones too. :) My uber-rare green ammo crate full of unobtainium Radway Green and I await whatever color shows up. :)  |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 7:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kel: I've got a black T7 on the way, but all these cool RAL pics make me wonder if I should get a tan one too... I was reminded of a photo I snapped back in 2016: I'd never seen tan ones before so took a pic. These were well before the RAL ones were "common". https://i.imgur.com/3BkPEN1.jpeg Eh, I always liked the classic black ones too. :) My uber-rare green ammo crate full of unobtainium Radway Green and I await whatever color shows up. :) https://i.imgur.com/qS0AFm3.jpeg Where was the top photo taken? |
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Posted: 6/9/2024 8:44:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kel]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: Where was the top photo taken? One of the times I was up at HK's offices in Virginia. (At the time, I'm like "interesting rails", right? My (black) MP7 machineguns I bought in 2005 all had the folding grip, I'd never seen tan and I'd never seen the rails. I think these might have been in processing going through inspection before going out to some customers.) |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 10:04:31 AM EDT
[#40]
What light/laser you all going to be running on these? Making another order tonight
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Posted: 6/14/2024 11:21:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dhall0101: What light/laser you all going to be running on these? Making another order tonight |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 12:44:55 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: I'm going for either a cqbl+vampire setup off the right or the Rayvon GL4 Surefire clone. $299 for it+visible is an attractive prospect instead of tacking another grand on the side Those look really good. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 3:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dhall0101: What light/laser you all going to be running on these? Making another order tonight FP RAID X |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 3:56:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jt526]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Norinco982lover: Those look really good. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 5:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: We'll see, using wikiarms I just ordered the Surefire RSR-sr07 switch for it for $79 shipped, and a defense distributed version for $325 shipped, so $404 is way less than the cqbl+vampire+echoarms+Modlite button I have on one of my 300blk guns. But the cqbl is more correct I suppose. But either way I needed another setup and wanted to try the gl4. I skipped the full power version, that much "eff your eyes" in a small package is a little too scary for me on a subgun/pdw. I have a full power peq15a (dbal-A2) and a couple perst 4's. Probably use a perst with a different illuminator unless I get the GL4 pro. I want something slim. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 7:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dhall0101: What light/laser you all going to be running on these? Making another order tonight The original MP7 accessory package included Rheinmetall/Orelikon LLM01 as the light/laser module. The subsequent LM-D was an improvement though sacrificing the white light. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 8:48:02 PM EDT
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In 2024, nods and passive is what keeps you alive.
My home defense AR still has white light but a raid gun like this has a slightly different use case. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 12:13:22 PM EDT
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So…uh….did anybody get one?
Silence in this thread after the first release. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 12:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: So…uh….did anybody get one? Silence in this thread after the first release. According to the thread on hkpro they’re just starting to ship now. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: So…uh….did anybody get one? Silence in this thread after the first release. I received my order is complete email but no tracking yet. |
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