It's not that I don't like your answer, it's just that it had nothing to do with my question.

So, forget the fact that I'm new on this forum and that you think I'm "doing it wrong".  Keep in mind what I already put on my PC, comfortably.

Now.. and remember, keep your personal bias out of this... what use would I have for a war belt? Other than looking super badass Iraq-war style in front of all my civilian range buddies?

(3 rifle mags is SOOO bulky...)

Yeah dude, DRhodes laughed at me.  As good a reason as any for more gear whoring at the range I guess

Because you're in TX he did?  What did you do with the MC?

Less gear = better. I can't see a reason for a war belt, and it has offended you guys.

I'm out.

If you feel youve got your needs covered with the PC, then forget about the war belt.  From mosts experience on here, there are certain situations where a PC can be a burden because of how bulky it is, especially loaded with a ton of gear.  From their perspective, having a 1st line (or sub load so to speak) of a belt with just the bare essentials so you can ditch the PC if necessary or out of necessity, then youre more versatile.

By'oh eh.

Thank you for your great contribution to this forum.

Must be nice knowing everything.

Plate carriers for ammo carry are slower.

Donning and doffing takes longer.

Reloading takes longer.

You can't sustain it all day long and have good mobility.

For your stated uses; it doesn't make sense unless they involve people shooting at you and you accepting the mobility overhead of wearing armor.

Is the irony of this statement lost on anybody else?

Trackin like a heroin addict

ETA: picture thread. Might have posted this gem before, IDK

Id like to see pics of your new setup buddy and the specs.  Your pics are awesome BTW

No awesome pics but here you go

My experience with the rig (mostly running and range time) is that this is even lighter than a standard war belt setup, at the sacrifice of not being able to add gear as easily.  Sitting, shooting, and moving from shitty positions is faster.

DSG Competition Belt Two Piece Kit - Tan
OSH RTI Kydex Holster
HSGI "Pistol TACO" Single Universal Pistol Mag Pouch
HSGI Double Decker "TACO" Magazine Pouch
HSGI Improved Bleeder/Blowout Pouch Modular
Corgi

What pouch for corgi?

And for reference ... so I'm not a shit eating hypocrite ... the only PC I have is the slick concealable variety and if I absolutely must carry ammo on my chest, I throw a chest rig over it.

I don't care what they say about you SP, you're a good guy.


We need to get you one of those PALS harnesses for Sterling.

Less gear?

Go read your post about the 37 things you put on your PC.

The one you wear so you don't look like the poseur that you just accused everyone here of being for wearing a gear belt.

What did you use, to attach the Tacos and bleeder pouch, to the belt; Raven ModuLoader?

Yep, that easy.

How do you like this setup when compared to your old padded war belt?

My first thought was this.

new to the war/battle belt here guys, i just got this setup started this past week and have not used it shooting yet at all. so PLEASE any criticism you can give me i would appreciate. im trying to set this up right. i think the admin pouch is going to go bye bye, and range first aid medic pouch will take its place on the backside of the belt, seems to be the most popular place to put it. i will be running this setup with a plate carrier. whats up with the ITW fastmags? do people like them? i think they are alright but i am going to have to use them before i make my final decision whether to keep them or switch to a triple mag pouch.

so heres what i've got on the belt, i can post my plate carrier too if anybody wants to see it.

Tac Tailor FL belt
Tac tailor duty belt (should i trade this for a riggers belt?) opinions?
3 ITW fastmag pouches
tac tailor admin pouch (should i ditch this entirely or try to find a place for it?)
tac tailor drop leg panel w/ blackhawk serpa
tac tailor dropleg dump pouch with two pistol pouches and a multitool pouch

i appreciate any advice guys seriously. thanks.

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Ditch the drop leg dump pouch - I'd move it just behind the rifle mags.
I would not have 3 rifle mag pouches on my belt, two is fine for me
Move the pistol mags between the rifle mags and the belt buckle.
I have drop leg panels. I would at least make it not so long - it's a huge panel. One thigh strap, MAX.
IFAK should contain life saving items, not asprin and bandaids.

I use a riggers belt, YMMV

Post up the plate carrier too!

What he said. Lots o' floppy shit on that overloaded belt, my good sir.

I'm new to the war belt wold and would love some help getting it set up right. Any suggestions would be great. My main question is about the Esstac KYWI pouches. The ones pictures are the full size ones but I'm wondering if I should have gone for the shorty version instead. Anyone have experience with either and have a preference? Or should I go a completely different direction?

HSGI sure-grip belt
HSGI cobra riggers belt
Tactical Tailor Magna double pistol mag pouch
Esstac KYWI double rifle mag pouch



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I'm not a professional trigger puller so my criteria might be a little skewed.  It's slicker by far and weighs much less, I feel like I can carry the same load faster and there's less impact on stability ... there was always some amount of play with every war belt setup I've ever tried (even the with the HSGI setup, but it had the least).  I'm not calling anyone a liar, but if you're saying your shit never moves around you're a fucking liar.    With my war belt setups of old I would have issues with heat and sweat around my waist because of the padding.  I wear a 36-38" waist and felt like I had trouble with doorways and confined spaces with a war belt that isn't present with the newer setup.  I'm not a ninja, but if I were I would have probably sucked at being one with the war belt because I would bump into shit around my waist constantly trying to navigate cover.

definitely the shorties, or tacos or fastmags. The belt is meant for speed reloads, gotta get a firm grip on the bitch

cool, the dump pouch was from another setup in days past looks like ill swap it onto my 7.62 vest. what style dump pouch do you recommend? what about the admin pouch? i really dont have much use for it and i cant use it as an IFAK pouch. bad idea to put it on my carrier?

carrier is nothing special, just keeping it simple because i have plates in it. anything i could/should consider adding to it please let me know.





thanks

PC needs a hydro carrier, I use the SKD PIG 2L. It should have an IFAK accessible by both hands, and the admin pouch goes on the PC, not the warbelt.
From there, mission drives the gear
ETA: I use the emdom dump pouch. I like the semi rigid opening but it doesn't roll up - not an issue for me

My HSGI belt will be arriving tomorrow. I also got two rifle Tacos and two pistol Tacos. I have a London Bridge Trading Co dump pouch I bought on sale a month or two ago that I will also add. Also picked up a G-Code RTI holster for a USP and the associated "drop" mount. Hopefully the holster will work for a P2000, P30 or P30L since I don't own a USP. Holster was 10 bucks so I figured I'd take the gamble. The metal clip sells for more than that so if it doesn't work, I can have my custom kydex one made using the clip.

I'm excited and I'll post pictures after it is set up.

From left to right
2x pistol tacos multicam
2x rifle tacos multicam
Condor GP pouch, loaded with mini IFAK,123 batteries, spare bolt,cam pin, firing pin, CLP, sharpie and screw driver
pistol mag pouch with surefire g2x
Drop leg with glock 19 (holster soon to be replaced)
Ka-bar tdi
Condor belt, Soon to be replaced with a different brand, not sure but I want 3 rows of molle because this one sags.
What do you think?

My HSGI Suregrip belt, tacos and G Code RTI holster showed up today. I do have a question, since the belt isn't the 2 inches that the holster can fit up to, is there a way to shim it so it doesn't slide around? It's not terrible but I'd like to reduce the movement as much as possible.





ETA: The holster is for a USP 9/40 and it fits my P2000, P30 and P30L just fine. Best 10 bucks I've ever spent!

You bought that way too small. The suregrip should almost touch at your waist.

If you want to make sure the holster won't move, I'd probably thread a zip tie through the MOLLE and around the belt. Create "keepers" around it, sort of speak. You could also put some ranger bands around the belt to make it thicker and non-slip ... or you can put duct tape around the belt/holster to keep it in place..

I used some sticky backed velcro on my drop to hold it from wiggling.

I was wondering if it were too small...fuck.

When I had this mine fit more like this ...

I thought it might be too small but wasn't positive. Well...that'll be fun to remount those fucking Tacos...

If it's not causing any comfort issues and you don't need the extra MOLLE space, there's no harm using it as is.

The extra space on the HSGI padding bit helps create more friction, stopping the belt from sliding around as much.

Thanks for he input, just ordered some fastmags instead, heard nothing but good things about them.

My ATS war belt currently:

Left to right:
- TT double pistol mag pouch
- HSGI TACO
- TT Fight Light dump pouch
- TT Horizontal Accessory Pouch
- TT Multi-tool Pouch - Folding knife
- G-Code XST - Glock 17

Right, but there isn't much on the belt currently where that extra friction would be needed. Either way, I'd exchange it for another. Just because the MOLLE space is available doesn't mean it needs to be filled, but it's good to have the flexibility.

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I had same issue.  have HSGI send the next bigge size and try them back to back (before you unmount everything, you should be able to get the belt out).  I wound up going to a bigger size..
First (too small)

Just right (slightly too big, but feels good and very happy with function, would be a little hard to get to the


Looks like front pouches would make going prone hard, but they don't at all.

Hey Guys,

I have a question I was hoping some of the guys in here more knowledgeable than me could answer for me (or just tell me to STFU and spend more money). Similarly to the bettercallsaul fella a page or two back, I run just about everything on my on my PC.  I'm a civilian and I do not shoot or train for any kind of job.  Simply for recreation and in preparation for any kind of SHTF/WROL/Zombie apocalypse situation we may find ourselves in.  I recognize that my training is likely to end up just being a hobby and my gear for the most part is just toys aiding in my hobby.  For that reason it was my intention in creating my rig to have one grab and go rig that supports my primary and secondary systems as well as protection.  It works pretty well for its intended purpose and I am happy with it.  

Now, unlike the previously mentioned poster, I fully recognize having a war belt set up is far more tactically efficient than what I'm running.  I'm knowingly compromising that efficiency with PC rig for overall convenience.  I would like to try out a war belt set up and see if I feel it is worth incorporating for me.  I'm fortunate enough to have a buddy lend me an extra 5.11 brokos.  What I need is the inner belt.  I recognize that if I was going to run this belt for real that I would want a cobra or some other high end inner belt.  What I want to do is do this little trial run as inexpensively as possible.  What is the least expensive option I could pick up for this?  Some potentially useful information is that at this point I don't ever intend for my belt to get all that heavy (that might change in the future, but at that point I would have already upgraded to a better inner belt) and it won't be run very hard.  Possibly 1-2 courses a year, and at the range doing basic training drills.  Will any gun belt do?  Does it need to have some specific quality that a standard gun belt does not typically have?  Would a blackhawk CQB riggers belt or something like it get the job done for the interim?

Thanks for taking the time to read all of that.  I apologize for the length but I wanted to be thorough and let you guy know exactly what I need and how I intend to use it.  TIA for any help.

Log9mm......Go to the surplus store and get a web duty belt the newer style. They are cheap and stiff. Drawback is they are 2 inchs wide so if you want to hang your holster of of it you will need to take that into account

Thanks for the reply.  After reading almost all of this thread from start to finish and your response it appears it isn't as complicated as I thought. Obviously there are higher end and lower end belts out there, but for my wants, just about any duty belt will do.  Thanks again!

I ended up making some changes in gear. Was tired of lugging the Brokos around and opted for the Emdom CM. I am liking the lo profile a lot better. In the pic is the gunbelt set up. Have another Emdom enroute to move the brokos pouches over to. Gonna get rid of the brokos and the inner cobra rigger. Just do not need this kind of set up.

I like the Emdom setup. What kind of padding is that you've got on it?

Here you go, mate.

http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/emdomusa/Detail?no=97

Yes yes come to the much lighter dark side.