User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 2:34:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not mine, but one of my most favorite pistols ive ever shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/DSCN0060_jpg-3127832.JPG I have the twin to that very gun. It is like shooting a .22 is it not? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 2:42:05 PM EDT
[#2]
.38 special is an awesome cartridge. It's put a lot of dicks in the dirt...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 2:59:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the twin to that very gun. It is like shooting a .22 is it not? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not mine, but one of my most favorite pistols ive ever shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/21179/DSCN0060_jpg-3127832.JPG I have the twin to that very gun. It is like shooting a .22 is it not? Its a definite pleasure to shoot! very little recoil. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:05:18 PM EDT
[#4]
It doesn’t really matter if it is going 800, 900, or 1000 fps. It’s a handgun cartridge.
It will not reliably kill a human with one shot. But it really doesn’t need to. It only needs to convince some piece of shit to stop robbing you or stop assaulting you. Two .38 spl slugs to the sternum will do that almost all the time. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:10:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn’t really matter if it is going 800, 900, or 1000 fps. It’s a handgun cartridge. It will not reliably kill a human with one shot. But it really doesn’t need to. It only needs to convince some piece of shit to stop robbing you or stop assaulting you. Two .38 spl slugs to the sternum will do that almost all the time. Except when they don't, and two FBI agents are dead as a result. Or was that the 9mm Silvertip? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:12:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Im not sure I agree. Its a theory I would advise to hold on to loosely, but don't let it go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The perfect size, perfect hole in hole groups and recoil with just the right amount of twist. Only 45 Colt can match its style and grace yet it is not made for my European sized hands. Truly a wonder is all I can say about it. Im not sure I agree. Its a theory I would advise to hold on to loosely, but don't let it go. If you cling too tightly you are going to lose control. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:26:56 PM EDT
[#7]
It’s a great round, very versatile. I don’t know about “the best” but it was the cartridge I learned to hand load on so it’ll always have a special place in my heart
 ETA: One of my favorite pistols to shoot 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:32:56 PM EDT
[#8]
327fed is arguably better in a small pistol since you can get 6 in it.
only issue is availability of ammo/guns. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:37:24 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm convinced.
Better order me some more .38 Special if/before the Dems get in again this fall. I expect another run on ammo, regardless. .38 Special supply can be iffy. I've been wanting to carry my SP101 for a while, anyway.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:43:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except when they don't, and two FBI agents are dead as a result. Or was that the 9mm Silvertip? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It doesn’t really matter if it is going 800, 900, or 1000 fps. It’s a handgun cartridge. It will not reliably kill a human with one shot. But it really doesn’t need to. It only needs to convince some piece of shit to stop robbing you or stop assaulting you. Two .38 spl slugs to the sternum will do that almost all the time. Except when they don't, and two FBI agents are dead as a result. Or was that the 9mm Silvertip? There is a reason .38 spl is no longer used for Law Enforcement. Arresting felons is a totally different scenario than repelling a piece of shit trying to mug you. 99.9% of muggers will break off the attack if you put two slugs into their chest. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:49:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted: The perfect size, perfect hole in hole groups and recoil with just the right amount of twist. Only 45 Colt can match its style and grace yet it is not made for my European sized hands. Truly a wonder is all I can say about it. Its only a mediocre target cartridge and substandard at everything else you mentioned. Its boomer dog shit. No its silent generation dogshit. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:51:47 PM EDT
[#12]
I really want one of the new Jframes because I too, really, really, really like the 38 special.
 Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:52:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its only a mediocre target cartridge and substandard at everything else you mentioned. Its boomer dog shit. No its silent generation dogshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The perfect size, perfect hole in hole groups and recoil with just the right amount of twist. Only 45 Colt can match its style and grace yet it is not made for my European sized hands. Truly a wonder is all I can say about it. Its only a mediocre target cartridge and substandard at everything else you mentioned. Its boomer dog shit. No its silent generation dogshit. Derp This ignorant edgelord shit is tiresome. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:54:15 PM EDT
[#14]
I like it but would have hated to have been reliant on it defensively back in the day, if some of the stories I heard were any indication.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 3:57:14 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Derp This ignorant edgelord shit is tiresome. The USPSA revolver division competitors must be all ignorant edgelords because they run 38sc instead of 38 special brass. BTW all my revolvers are in 38 special and I love the cartridge. I just disagree with OP. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:01:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The USPSA revolver division competitors must be all ignorant edgelords because they run 38sc instead of 38 special brass. BTW all my revolvers are in 38 special and I love the cartridge. I just disagree with OP. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Derp This ignorant edgelord shit is tiresome. The USPSA revolver division competitors must be all ignorant edgelords because they run 38sc instead of 38 special brass. BTW all my revolvers are in 38 special and I love the cartridge. I just disagree with OP. You love it so much you call it dogshit. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:06:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You love it so much you call it dogshit. I call it "boomer dogshit" because it comes with so much idiotic urban legend bullshit. "load it with snake shot" , "load the bullet backwards" and so on and so on. Or I think the biggest offender of them all "oh she is a woman give her a J frame". There is a lot better options for modern self defense out there, the whole cartridges is surrounded by a bunch of bad lore and myths that older idiots tend to perpetuate. TLDR cartridge isn't dog shit but the fan club and advice is. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:08:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think the 38 special is a very good cartridge, but there are better, and worse cartridges. I certainly wouldn't feel "undergunned" with a 38 special if it was in a decent loading.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:26:39 PM EDT
[#19]
The 9mm Rimmed is okay if you can get the capacity up.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:44:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So get a 45acp revolver? Rimless in a revolver? Just no |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:46:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rimless in a revolver? Just no 38 special is hard to reload from a moon clip takes too long. Lets switch to rimless 9mm...... 9mm is hard to reload because it gets stuck in chambers after firing, takes too long to reload.... Meanwhile 38SC master race is laughing at us from the balconies. Just dont ask them to show you groups at 25 yards :) |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:52:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rimless in a revolver? Just no Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So get a 45acp revolver? Rimless in a revolver? Just no  
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 4:55:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a reason .38 spl is no longer used for Law Enforcement. Arresting felons is a totally different scenario than repelling a piece of shit trying to mug you. 99.9% of muggers will break off the attack if you put two slugs into their chest. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It doesn’t really matter if it is going 800, 900, or 1000 fps. It’s a handgun cartridge. It will not reliably kill a human with one shot. But it really doesn’t need to. It only needs to convince some piece of shit to stop robbing you or stop assaulting you. Two .38 spl slugs to the sternum will do that almost all the time. Except when they don't, and two FBI agents are dead as a result. Or was that the 9mm Silvertip? There is a reason .38 spl is no longer used for Law Enforcement. Arresting felons is a totally different scenario than repelling a piece of shit trying to mug you. 99.9% of muggers will break off the attack if you put two slugs into their chest.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:01:25 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 38 special is hard to reload from a moon clip takes too long. Lets switch to rimless 9mm...... 9mm is hard to reload because it gets stuck in chambers after firing, takes too long to reload.... Meanwhile 38SC master race is laughing at us from the balconies. Just dont ask them to show you groups at 25 yards :) The only 2 reasons I can think of 38sc is being used is because of its shorter case length and the ability to use moon clips Which allow for faster reloading. both of which I do not care. As to groups at 25y it does not matter when with enough training you can hit steel from 100 yards away with most 4 inch pistols, revolver or not. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:04:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I call it "boomer dogshit" because it comes with so much idiotic urban legend bullshit. "load it with snake shot" , "load the bullet backwards" and so on and so on. Or I think the biggest offender of them all "oh she is a woman give her a J frame". There is a lot better options for modern self defense out there, the whole cartridges is surrounded by a bunch of bad lore and myths that older idiots tend to perpetuate. TLDR cartridge isn't dog shit but the fan club and advice is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You love it so much you call it dogshit. I call it "boomer dogshit" because it comes with so much idiotic urban legend bullshit. "load it with snake shot" , "load the bullet backwards" and so on and so on. Or I think the biggest offender of them all "oh she is a woman give her a J frame". There is a lot better options for modern self defense out there, the whole cartridges is surrounded by a bunch of bad lore and myths that older idiots tend to perpetuate. TLDR cartridge isn't dog shit but the fan club and advice is. I sell a lot of snub .38s to wemin on two grounds: 1) waving it over your head and shouting improves the efficiency of her dishwasher by 87%; 2) the snub can be fired from within a coat pocket or purse. Combined with other known principles, this leads to an interesting and useful phenomenon - any shooting technique must be practiced, particularly firing a defensive arm from within a purse. Husbands will never discourage their wives from practicing with their carry weapon. Wemin should be sure to leave their wallet at home, as the wallet can be damaged by firing from within the purse. She should take her oldest purse to the range, and practice shooting from it on very close range silhouettes. As her husband is well aware, a woman's purse count can never decrease - it can only remain static or increase. Thus, she is clearly in need of a new purse and her husband is the only one present with a wallet. Voilà - an infinite number of new purses from the purchase of a single snubnose revolver. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:06:31 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only 2 reasons I can think of 38sc is being used is because of its shorter case length and the ability to use moon clips Which allow for faster reloading. both of which I do not care. As to groups at 25y it does not matter when with enough training you can hit steel from 100 yards away with most 4 inch pistols, revolver or not. We are speaking about different things. There is defensive use There is target shooting There is competetive steel/USPSA shooting all of the above have VERY different requirements. By the way 38 special can use moonclips just as easily as 38sc |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:11:40 PM EDT
[#27]
Nothing wrong with 38 special. I just prefer 357 magnum because you can use both.
 Been pocket carrying the SP101 for almost a month. Both as primary and backup for my Shield plus. I will not be shamed. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:14:56 PM EDT
[#28]
My favorite pistol as a child was the .38s&w colt police positive.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:19:03 PM EDT
[#29]
The bulk of my meager gun collection is S&W .38 Specials. .38 is comfortable to shoot and fairly inexpensive to reload.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:32:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rimless in a revolver? Just no Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So get a 45acp revolver? Rimless in a revolver? Just no Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I’m onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee’s knees. Try it if you haven’t. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:48:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I’m onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee’s knees. Try it if you haven’t. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So get a 45acp revolver? Rimless in a revolver? Just no Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I’m onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee’s knees. Try it if you haven’t. I miss my 1917 S&W. Should’ve kept it. I need a hug. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:50:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I’m onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee’s knees. Try it if you haven’t. I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 5:50:54 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I miss my 1917 S&W. Should've kept it. I need a hug. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So get a 45acp revolver? Rimless in a revolver? Just no Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I'm onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee's knees. Try it if you haven't. I miss my 1917 S&W. Should've kept it. I need a hug. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 6:07:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What 9mm pushes a 158gr bullet to 1250fps? Or even 1000fps? Which is my normal swc load. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the 38 Special is a fine target load. It’s accurate, it’s fun to shoot, and it gives people more of a true shooting experience versus rimfire. It’s also great to have a revolver and a lever action car being that will shoot the same ammunition. But I don’t think I would’ve bought a 38 special revolver if I had not Ended up with thousands of rounds of ammunition. Ballistically I was always told that the 38 special even if it’s hottest loads falls short of the 9 mm pabulum. I’m guessing that is still true. What 9mm pushes a 158gr bullet to 1250fps? Or even 1000fps? Which is my normal swc load. Also, I don't think you can get 180gr into a 9mm. The hater up-thread complaining about case capacity can take note, as well. Seated to the same OAL as a 125, it takes up a chunk of that case volume. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 6:15:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 327fed is arguably better in a small pistol since you can get 6 in it. only issue is availability of ammo/guns. This. I like .38 Special, but .327 Federal Magnum does .38 Special things so much better. Revolver fans that don't want to try it are really missing out. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 6:27:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I’m onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee’s knees. Try it if you haven’t. I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 6:55:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a reason .38 spl is no longer used for Law Enforcement. Arresting felons is a totally different scenario than repelling a piece of shit trying to mug you. 99.9% of muggers will break off the attack if you put two slugs into their chest. Even with the 158 gr ,+P LSWCHP it was only marginally effective back in the day, not just in terminal effectiveness but in struggling with barriers than other other service calibers wouldn't have had an issue with. An example being the case of a former RCMP officer I talked to, who had a 2x4 fence handrail completely stop his bullet that would have otherwise hit a guy that was shooting at him. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 6:58:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. They do make .45 Auto-Rim brass, you know. I have even heard of people trimming and sizing .41 Magnum brass down to 10mm dimensions, but haven't tried it myself. Hard to see how it would work with a conventional size rim. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:06:24 PM EDT
[#39]
I have yet to shoot my .38 special. I know if I do, I'll want to shoot it all the time...
It wasas my grandfathers and he never shot it much either, and he bought it from his brother-in-law. It is 100 years old this year and is mint  
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:08:19 PM EDT
[#40]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:12:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I like .38 Special, but .327 Federal Magnum does .38 Special things so much better. Revolver fans that don't want to try it are really missing out. It's a hand loader's dream. 32 SW, 32 H&R Magnum, and 327 Fed Mag all in the same gun. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:13:01 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even with the 158 gr ,+P LSWCHP it was only marginally effective back in the day, not just in terminal effectiveness but in struggling with barriers than other other service calibers wouldn't have had an issue with. An example being the case of a former RCMP officer I talked to, who had a 2x4 fence handrail completely stop his bullet that would have otherwise hit a guy that was shooting at him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is a reason .38 spl is no longer used for Law Enforcement. Arresting felons is a totally different scenario than repelling a piece of shit trying to mug you. 99.9% of muggers will break off the attack if you put two slugs into their chest. Even with the 158 gr ,+P LSWCHP it was only marginally effective back in the day, not just in terminal effectiveness but in struggling with barriers than other other service calibers wouldn't have had an issue with. An example being the case of a former RCMP officer I talked to, who had a 2x4 fence handrail completely stop his bullet that would have otherwise hit a guy that was shooting at him. Depending on the actual velocity that wood would have stopped any other normal service load. I'd prefer a swc-wn though. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:16:17 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I never trusted the micro auto feeders, but I always trust the pocket sized .38 I've only ever had one malfunction in my P365X, and that was a failure to eject within the first 250 rounds. It's been solid since, and I've put thousands of rounds through it. A malfunction in an autoloader can usually be solved easily, to the point that it's a minor hindrance. With revolvers, that's usually not the case. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:18:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: .44 makes more sense to me for a revolver cartridge. .45 would also work, but I prefer .44 because you won't run into older guns that can't handle heavier loads. I own a Model 19 and a Model 29. I haven't shot them much, but I've shot them enough to know that I like .44 Special over anything else in the realm of revolvers. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:20:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn’t really matter if it is going 800, 900, or 1000 fps. It’s a handgun cartridge. It will not reliably kill a human with one shot. But it really doesn’t need to. It only needs to convince some piece of shit to stop robbing you or stop assaulting you. Two .38 spl slugs to the sternum will do that almost all the time.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:29:00 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I'm onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee's knees. Try it if you haven't. I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000000150_jpg-3128136.JPG Is it a shop job? |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:32:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What are those? They look like someone gave some boner pills to a bunch of .45 ACP. Is it a shop job? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I'm onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee's knees. Try it if you haven't. I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000000150_jpg-3128136.JPG Is it a shop job? I had my .45 colt mtn gun cut for moon clips. .45 acp looses like 200fps in the colt chambers So i use .45 win mag brass and load them to mid range .45 colt levels. |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:35:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had my .45 colt mtn gun cut for moon clips. .45 acp looses like 200fps in the colt chambers So i use .45 win mag brass and load them to mid range .45 colt levels. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I'm onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee's knees. Try it if you haven't. I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000000150_jpg-3128136.JPG Is it a shop job? I had my .45 colt mtn gun cut for moon clips. .45 acp looses like 200fps in the colt chambers So i use .45 win mag brass and load them to mid range .45 colt levels. Nice! You're my hero. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:44:09 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice! You're my hero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ok, watch yourself, cuz. I'm onboard with the 38 Spl praise, but a 45 ACP revolver is the bee's knees. Try it if you haven't. I prefer my cartridges uncut thank you very much. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/1000000150_jpg-3128136.JPG Is it a shop job? I had my .45 colt mtn gun cut for moon clips. .45 acp looses like 200fps in the colt chambers So i use .45 win mag brass and load them to mid range .45 colt levels. Nice! You're my hero. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/13/2024 7:48:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had my .45 colt mtn gun cut for moon clips. .45 acp looses like 200fps in the colt chambers So i use .45 win mag brass and load them to mid range .45 colt levels. That's so cool lol  Attached File |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
Attached File