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I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform. ETA: Kevin Smith is in the credits for providing "additional voices" which makes this even more likely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform. RANDAL: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms. ETA: Kevin Smith is in the credits for providing "additional voices" which makes this even more likely. I don't know if it's still cannon, but in the EU the death star was actually built by imprisoned wookies I believe |
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Click To View Spoiler I think what the writers were attempting to portray here is that Kylo Ren is young, and not fully in control. You see that when Poe Dameron disrespects him on the initial interrogation scene, and when Rey pushes back during her interrogation.
Rey calls out Kylo as being all bark and no bite. The earlier tantrums he has when getting bad news allude to his immaturity and general desperation. Contrast that with Kylo's hero infatuation; Darth Vader. Vader was always cool, in control, and confident. (Let's leave aside the films which shall not me mentioned...) I expect in episode 8, Kylo will return as a much more menacing bad guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My biggest beef with the story: Click To View Spoiler The villain was way too "angsty", like he was channeling Hayden Christiansen. I would have preferred that he were purely evil, not conflicted and self-doubting.
Click To View Spoiler I think what the writers were attempting to portray here is that Kylo Ren is young, and not fully in control. You see that when Poe Dameron disrespects him on the initial interrogation scene, and when Rey pushes back during her interrogation.
Rey calls out Kylo as being all bark and no bite. The earlier tantrums he has when getting bad news allude to his immaturity and general desperation. Contrast that with Kylo's hero infatuation; Darth Vader. Vader was always cool, in control, and confident. (Let's leave aside the films which shall not me mentioned...) I expect in episode 8, Kylo will return as a much more menacing bad guy. Click To View Spoiler If you look at this from the perspective of the dark side, Kylo in TFA is the antithesis of Luke in ESB; Young, powerful and gifted in the ways of the force yet lacking the emotional development and control to be a full-fledged jedi. Luke demonstrated this both in training with Yoda on Dagobah and in rushing off to confront Vader before he was ready. Kylo demonstrated it by having tantrums and being angsty. Seems like a reasonable contrast between the light and dark sides. FInally, both had to confront their father before their training could be complete.
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Thanks so much for using the spoilers block feature... But if I was really smart, I'd avoid this thread entirely. Lol
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Click To View Spoiler I think what the writers were attempting to portray here is that Kylo Ren is young, and not fully in control. You see that when Poe Dameron disrespects him on the initial interrogation scene, and when Rey pushes back during her interrogation.
Rey calls out Kylo as being all bark and no bite. The earlier tantrums he has when getting bad news allude to his immaturity and general desperation. Contrast that with Kylo's hero infatuation; Darth Vader. Vader was always cool, in control, and confident. (Let's leave aside the films which shall not me mentioned...) I expect in episode 8, Kylo will return as a much more menacing bad guy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My biggest beef with the story: Click To View Spoiler The villain was way too "angsty", like he was channeling Hayden Christiansen. I would have preferred that he were purely evil, not conflicted and self-doubting.
Click To View Spoiler I think what the writers were attempting to portray here is that Kylo Ren is young, and not fully in control. You see that when Poe Dameron disrespects him on the initial interrogation scene, and when Rey pushes back during her interrogation.
Rey calls out Kylo as being all bark and no bite. The earlier tantrums he has when getting bad news allude to his immaturity and general desperation. Contrast that with Kylo's hero infatuation; Darth Vader. Vader was always cool, in control, and confident. (Let's leave aside the films which shall not me mentioned...) I expect in episode 8, Kylo will return as a much more menacing bad guy. Click To View Spoiler Just to piggyback on that, this is even reflected in Kylo's light saber. It's got this crazy, unstable energy. And once you got to know the character in the movie better you can even picture him as a spoiled-yet-angsty 19 year old kid building the saber and going "f*ck yeah, man, gonna put cross guards on this b*tch" It was well done, all 'round. I also expect Kylo to be a much evil-er evil guy in the next movie. |
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Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. |
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Also, Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. View Quote Hopefully my spoiler tag works... Click To View Spoiler I agree. It seems like JJ took everything from IV - VI and said "OK, folks, let's crank this bitch up to 11 and see what happens." Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined. Force usage is more powerful and with less training. X-Wing / TIE / MF flight scenes are faster and harder hitting. Ground combat is more 'down to earth' - fast, ugly, and with higher casualty rates. Plenty of funny scenes / jokes - less tongue in cheek, more down right funny. The Force Awakens is a lot like fan fiction when it comes to the use of the force - less hocus pocus, less pseudo science, more powerful, more in your face. Vader didn't read Leia's mind during interrogation (at least not shown), yet Kylo is all up in your mental business. |
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Click To View Spoiler Just to piggyback on that, this is even reflected in Kylo's light saber. It's got this crazy, unstable energy. And once you got to know the character in the movie better you can even picture him as a spoiled-yet-angsty 19 year old kid building the saber and going "f*ck yeah, man, gonna put cross guards on this b*tch" It was well done, all 'round. I also expect Kylo to be a much evil-er evil guy in the next movie. View Quote Click To View Spoiler My understanding of why Kylo Ren's saber is not stable is that it has an old cracked synthetic Sith saber crystal that is not able to stabilize the plasma, coupled with his powerful yet not stable control of the force. It has the two additional plasma jets to the sides to bleed off extra energy, essentially to keep it from exploding. Before seeing the movie I actually thought Luke was off somewhere protecting the last known source of saber crystals.
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up? Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616 View Quote I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? |
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Hopefully my spoiler tag works... Click To View Spoiler I agree. It seems like JJ took everything from IV - VI and said "OK, folks, let's crank this bitch up to 11 and see what happens." Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined. Force usage is more powerful and with less training. X-Wing / TIE / MF flight scenes are faster and harder hitting. Ground combat is more 'down to earth' - fast, ugly, and with higher casualty rates. Plenty of funny scenes / jokes - less tongue in cheek, more down right funny. The Force Awakens is a lot like fan fiction when it comes to the use of the force - less hocus pocus, less pseudo science, more powerful, more in your face. Vader didn't read Leia's mind during interrogation (at least not shown), yet Kylo is all up in your mental business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. Hopefully my spoiler tag works... Click To View Spoiler I agree. It seems like JJ took everything from IV - VI and said "OK, folks, let's crank this bitch up to 11 and see what happens." Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined. Force usage is more powerful and with less training. X-Wing / TIE / MF flight scenes are faster and harder hitting. Ground combat is more 'down to earth' - fast, ugly, and with higher casualty rates. Plenty of funny scenes / jokes - less tongue in cheek, more down right funny. The Force Awakens is a lot like fan fiction when it comes to the use of the force - less hocus pocus, less pseudo science, more powerful, more in your face. Vader didn't read Leia's mind during interrogation (at least not shown), yet Kylo is all up in your mental business. Click To View Spoiler The Force works in mysterious ways. Different people have been shown to have different aptitudes, Kylo Ren seems to have a knack for physical manipulation, Rey for mental. Agreed there seems to be some inconsistency. I like the last bolt catch - would have been great to see Vader do that to Han in TESB, but not sure if the special effects tech was there. It might be worth notion that telekinesis was a key part of pre-school aged Jedi training, something noether Vader nor Luke had the advantage of. Maybe think of it like a foreign language. You can learn it as an adult, but it will be harder and only the most gifted won't have a strong accent.
None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS. |
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Further - and this is pure speculation on my part so no spoiler tag - that could be one of the twists for later in the movie series... maybe she has more Force powers than she lets on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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... I'm kind of disappointed that Leia in VII doesn't seem to have any midich. er, Force. Only her son does. Click To View Spoiler She did. She sensed when Han was killed.
Further - and this is pure speculation on my part so no spoiler tag - that could be one of the twists for later in the movie series... maybe she has more Force powers than she lets on? I thought that was alluded to in empire when Yoda was talking to ghost obi wan: Ben: "that boy is our last hope." Yoda: "no, there is another." |
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Hopefully my spoiler tag works... Click To View Spoiler I agree. It seems like JJ took everything from IV - VI and said "OK, folks, let's crank this bitch up to 11 and see what happens." Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined. Force usage is more powerful and with less training. X-Wing / TIE / MF flight scenes are faster and harder hitting. Ground combat is more 'down to earth' - fast, ugly, and with higher casualty rates. Plenty of funny scenes / jokes - less tongue in cheek, more down right funny. The Force Awakens is a lot like fan fiction when it comes to the use of the force - less hocus pocus, less pseudo science, more powerful, more in your face. Vader didn't read Leia's mind during interrogation (at least not shown), yet Kylo is all up in your mental business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. Hopefully my spoiler tag works... Click To View Spoiler I agree. It seems like JJ took everything from IV - VI and said "OK, folks, let's crank this bitch up to 11 and see what happens." Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined. Force usage is more powerful and with less training. X-Wing / TIE / MF flight scenes are faster and harder hitting. Ground combat is more 'down to earth' - fast, ugly, and with higher casualty rates. Plenty of funny scenes / jokes - less tongue in cheek, more down right funny. The Force Awakens is a lot like fan fiction when it comes to the use of the force - less hocus pocus, less pseudo science, more powerful, more in your face. Vader didn't read Leia's mind during interrogation (at least not shown), yet Kylo is all up in your mental business. Click To View Spoiler Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined/Force usage is more powerful and with less training. This actually makes sense. In the prequels, Jedi learned to do Jedi shit from a very early age, so by maturity they would have learned to use The Force as a scalpel rather than a hammer. Same with lightsabers. They would have been the equivalent of old school duelists. Ep III pretty much wiped out the students and teachers. The time before New Hope would have been Vader mopping up, taking Jedi libraries and transferring them to a central storage location (on the Death Star?) and after Return of the Jedi, there was really only one person left who knew how to Jedi. It makes sense that the new Jedi would be a lot more ham handed and brute-forcey, at least until there are enough of them to build a real school and spend time ruminating on the nature of the force and turning back into quasi-mystical nerds. Pretty much everything about being a Jedi at this time in the series is going to be wrapped around a whole lot of emotion, exactly the opposite of EpI - III Jedi. |
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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up? Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616 I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? C'mon, they've always had 2! Maybe in 30 years they decided to have a wizzo. |
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000
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Give him time...............If you remember, Vader ( as portrayed in the Phantom Menace and onward) went from a little whiny kid, to a whiny teenager, to an adult with rage issues after Palpatine tells him he kills Padme..........I'd suspect that Ren will develop over time into a purely evil character with the same disregard for life that Vader had View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Give him time...............If you remember, Vader ( as portrayed in the Phantom Menace and onward) went from a little whiny kid, to a whiny teenager, to an adult with rage issues after Palpatine tells him he kills Padme..........I'd suspect that Ren will develop over time into a purely evil character with the same disregard for life that Vader had Quoted:
Casting the new Vader as a skinny goth dude who breaks computers when angry just seemed poor. The real Vader was big, with armor, and killed people. This new little punk just throws a temper tantrum and breaks toys. Pretty much all the new heroes seemed like crap, like they were kids trying to copy mommy and daddy. Sadly it's a good reflection of modern society. My generation sucks. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The one think I liked was the similarities between Ren and vader... I think Ren has potential as a bad guy, and I also like the ren/ big sith guy interactions. .. you get the vader/ emperor vibe...you know that the emperor wanted Luke as an apprentice over vader, And you get that same vibe with the new big bad wanting the girl brought to him... |
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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up? Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616 I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? |
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I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform. ETA: Kevin Smith is in the credits for providing "additional voices" which makes this even more likely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform. RANDAL: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms. ETA: Kevin Smith is in the credits for providing "additional voices" which makes this even more likely. I thought the same thing when he said sanitation. |
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Click To View Spoiler The Force works in mysterious ways. Different people have been shown to have different aptitudes, Kylo Ren seems to have a knack for physical manipulation, Rey for mental. Agreed there seems to be some inconsistency. I like the last bolt catch - would have been great to see Vader do that to Han in TESB, but not sure if the special effects tech was there. It might be worth notion that telekinesis was a key part of pre-school aged Jedi training, something noether Vader nor Luke had the advantage of. Maybe think of it like a foreign language. You can learn it as an adult, but it will be harder and only the most gifted won't have a strong accent.
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Also, Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. Hopefully my spoiler tag works... Click To View Spoiler I agree. It seems like JJ took everything from IV - VI and said "OK, folks, let's crank this bitch up to 11 and see what happens." Light saber battles are more brutal and less refined. Force usage is more powerful and with less training. X-Wing / TIE / MF flight scenes are faster and harder hitting. Ground combat is more 'down to earth' - fast, ugly, and with higher casualty rates. Plenty of funny scenes / jokes - less tongue in cheek, more down right funny. The Force Awakens is a lot like fan fiction when it comes to the use of the force - less hocus pocus, less pseudo science, more powerful, more in your face. Vader didn't read Leia's mind during interrogation (at least not shown), yet Kylo is all up in your mental business. Click To View Spoiler The Force works in mysterious ways. Different people have been shown to have different aptitudes, Kylo Ren seems to have a knack for physical manipulation, Rey for mental. Agreed there seems to be some inconsistency. I like the last bolt catch - would have been great to see Vader do that to Han in TESB, but not sure if the special effects tech was there. It might be worth notion that telekinesis was a key part of pre-school aged Jedi training, something noether Vader nor Luke had the advantage of. Maybe think of it like a foreign language. You can learn it as an adult, but it will be harder and only the most gifted won't have a strong accent.
None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS. I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way. |
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000 Harrison Ford was critical. John Boyega knew full well he could be replaced with any of thousands of other unknown actors who would gladly do it for less. Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time. He can ride this shit out for a very long time. |
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up? Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616 I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? I don't know about that, but 30 years is more than enough time to assess lessons learned for the battles in TESB and ROTJ and field improved models. |
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Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time. He can ride this shit out for a very long time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000 Harrison Ford was critical. John Boyega knew full well he could be replaced with any of thousands of other unknown actors who would gladly do it for less. Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time. He can ride this shit out for a very long time. Yep. Working for peanuts as a main character on a movie this big is kind of like paying your fare to board the gravy train. |
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I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS. I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way. I just assumed that she was talking about her adoptive mother and Bail Organa never told Leia she was adopted. Then Bail's wife (Leia's adoptive mother) dies when Leia was still young. |
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up? Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616 I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too. Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position? I don't know about that, but 30 years is more than enough time to assess lessons learned for the battles in TESB and ROTJ and field improved models. It was just weird, he faced rearward but operated the forward facing guns as well as the rearward ones. At least I'm assuming there were rear guns as there seemed to be a viewport. |
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000 Harrison Ford was critical. John Boyega knew full well he could be replaced with any of thousands of other unknown actors who would gladly do it for less. Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time. He can ride this shit out for a very long time. Yep. Working for peanuts as a main character on a movie this big is kind of like paying your fare to board the gravy train. IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide. I'm not worried; they will be well compensated. |
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS. I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way. I just assumed that she was talking about her adoptive mother and Bail Organa never told Leia she was adopted. Then Bail's wife (Leia's adoptive mother) dies when Leia was still young. In that scene, Luke specifies her real mother. I assume from that they know she was adopted. |
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Click To View Spoiler At what point in the movie did the force awaken? I remember Kylo saying he "felt it", but I can't remember if that was before or after Rey discovered the saber. For some odd reason I'm thinking he felt the shift prior to that.
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Just saw it and I have one question, Click To View Spoiler At what point in the movie did the force awaken? I remember Kylo saying he "felt it", but I can't remember if that was before or after Rey discovered the saber. For some odd reason I'm thinking he felt the shift prior to that. View Quote Click To View Spoiler The Force in Rey was awakening throughout the whole movie. She just kept getting lucky until she realized it wasn't just chance.
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Click To View Spoiler When it came to why Rey was on Jakku, I think that her family left her there when she was a child to protect her from the New Order. One of the New Order generals said that they target young kids for their storm trooper program, instead of using clones. When they pull up Fin's records after he defects you see a picture of him when he was a child, most likely when he was first taken from his family. So my guess is that his family didn't know that the First Order were taking children from families to build an army, but Rey's did.
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My take, besides that I loved it Click To View Spoiler When it came to why Rey was on Jakku, I think that her family left her there when she was a child to protect her from the New Order. One of the New Order generals said that they target young kids for their storm trooper program, instead of using clones. When they pull up Fin's records after he defects you see a picture of him when he was a child, most likely when he was first taken from his family. So my guess is that his family didn't know that the First Order were taking children from families to build an army, but Rey's did.
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Just saw it and I have one question, Click To View Spoiler At what point in the movie did the force awaken? I remember Kylo saying he "felt it", but I can't remember if that was before or after Rey discovered the saber. For some odd reason I'm thinking he felt the shift prior to that. View Quote Click To View Spoiler My guess is, It awakened in Rey, and at the very end it was reawakening in Luke - he had hidden from it for years, but now was about to begin teaching again. It was also awakening on the dark side - a new dark apprentice, and a new dark lord, where for 30 years there had been none.
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IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide. I'm not worried; they will be well compensated. After it hits 1 billion, IIRC. That's what I read. |
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Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was even better watching it a second time. Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good. I caught myself putting my hand up in front of my face when one of the explosions threw dirt toward the audience. I think I only noticed one or two "for the 3D" effects. One only because of how truly awesome it was. Tickets for Wednesday Imax are laying in front of me |
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Click To View Spoiler My guess is, It awakened in Rey, and at the very end it was reawakening in Luke - he had hidden from it for years, but now was about to begin teaching again. It was also awakening on the dark side - a new dark apprentice, and a new dark lord, where for 30 years there had been none. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just saw it and I have one question, Click To View Spoiler At what point in the movie did the force awaken? I remember Kylo saying he "felt it", but I can't remember if that was before or after Rey discovered the saber. For some odd reason I'm thinking he felt the shift prior to that. Click To View Spoiler My guess is, It awakened in Rey, and at the very end it was reawakening in Luke - he had hidden from it for years, but now was about to begin teaching again. It was also awakening on the dark side - a new dark apprentice, and a new dark lord, where for 30 years there had been none. Click To View Spoiler I don't think Luke was hiding from it, I think Luke was studying it, perhaps even with the help of the force ghosts. My vision for episode 9 movie would be similar to the final act of Interstellar, with many of the impossible coincidences of this episode 7 being explained.
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Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It was even better watching it a second time. Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good. I saw it in Imax 3D and it was AWESOME. The 3D effects were incredible. The star destroyer looked like it was stretching out of the screen. |
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Quoted: Lucky to get that much really. Disney could have got damn near anyone they wanted to do it for free. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000 Lucky to get that much really. Disney could have got damn near anyone they wanted to do it for free. Not to mention the fact that he'll make a shit ton off of future SW movie deals, appearances, merchandise, video games, voice acting, etc. if he plays his cards right. A trilogy like Star Wars should be a life changer for the newcomers. |
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Also, Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. View Quote Click To View Spoiler Perhaps the mind reading was always a force power, but jedis and sith with proper training knew better than to use it because its a two way street when used on someone with force sensitivity. i also think that scene is why the movie is called the force awakens, and explains why rey adapts to the force so quickly, she saw into kylo's mind and was able to skip a lot of the learning curve. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide. I'm not worried; they will be well compensated. After it hits 1 billion, IIRC. That's what I read. So...Wednesday? Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $247,966,675 46.9% + Foreign: $281,000,000 53.1% = Worldwide: $528,966,675 |
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Want to know how good this movie is?
Mrs. Undefined refused to watch Star Wars for years and years. (Yes, I married an anti-Star Wars trekkie). She has never seen the entire trilogy. Her company rented out a theater for opening day. She got tickets for us. She liked it so much she suggested I buy the other movies on Blu-Ray to introduce our three year old son to, and has since watched 4 out of 5* of them together as a family. We'll watch ROTJ tomorrow (she has seen half of it already the night before seeing TFA). Now she is suggesting that we take our son to see TFA over the holidays, after he see's ROTJ. TFA did the impossible. It turned my wife into a Star Wars fan. It's not that she was anti Star Wars all the time.... she did dress up as Princess Leia for our son's first Halloween (he went as Vader), and she did let me play the Imperial Death March in the delivery room when our son was being born, but otherwise she wasn't a fan until now. *We don't watch Episode I in this household. Standards, we have them. |
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Click To View Spoiler Perhaps the mind reading was always a force power, but jedis and sith with proper training knew better than to use it because its a two way street when used on someone with force sensitivity. i also think that scene is why the movie is called the force awakens, and explains why rey adapts to the force so quickly, she saw into kylo's mind and was able to skip a lot of the learning curve. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, Click To View Spoiler Did it seem like this new "awakening" of the Force seem to include some new abilities? Freezing a blaster bolt seems new - they were always deflected before. And Rey's blinky-eyed Force Download that helped her beat Kylo seemed new too. Just overthinking it, like usual. Click To View Spoiler Perhaps the mind reading was always a force power, but jedis and sith with proper training knew better than to use it because its a two way street when used on someone with force sensitivity. i also think that scene is why the movie is called the force awakens, and explains why rey adapts to the force so quickly, she saw into kylo's mind and was able to skip a lot of the learning curve. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Based on that theory Click To View Spoiler Yoda could have saved a ton of training time and effort by doing a force mind meld. |
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Quoted: Click To View Spoiler I don't think Luke was hiding from it, I think Luke was studying it, perhaps even with the help of the force ghosts. My vision for episode 9 movie would be similar to the final act of Interstellar, with many of the impossible coincidences of this episode 7 being explained. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just saw it and I have one question, Click To View Spoiler At what point in the movie did the force awaken? I remember Kylo saying he "felt it", but I can't remember if that was before or after Rey discovered the saber. For some odd reason I'm thinking he felt the shift prior to that. Click To View Spoiler My guess is, It awakened in Rey, and at the very end it was reawakening in Luke - he had hidden from it for years, but now was about to begin teaching again. It was also awakening on the dark side - a new dark apprentice, and a new dark lord, where for 30 years there had been none. Click To View Spoiler I don't think Luke was hiding from it, I think Luke was studying it, perhaps even with the help of the force ghosts. My vision for episode 9 movie would be similar to the final act of Interstellar, with many of the impossible coincidences of this episode 7 being explained. Click To View Spoiler I don't think they're impossible coincidences. I think that Rey has some major force action going on, maybe even more powerful than Luke considering how quickly she's picking up on everything. I think that someone, maybe Luke, could see that she was special and hid her on Jakku after Kylo flipped his shit. I think that the coincidences are a puzzle laid out by Luke so someone strong with the force could find him. In her vision, we see her crying for her family as someone is dragging her away so maybe she was taken by the First Order and was rescued at some point. |
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