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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 1:29:53 PM EST
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I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform.



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I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform.

RANDAL: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.


ETA: Kevin Smith is in the credits for providing "additional voices" which makes this even more likely.



I don't know if it's still cannon, but in the EU the death star was actually built by imprisoned wookies I believe
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 1:33:06 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 1:41:33 PM EST
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Thanks so much for using the spoilers block feature... But if I was really smart, I'd avoid this thread entirely. Lol
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 1:47:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 1:49:17 PM EST
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Also,

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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 1:54:49 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:34:06 PM EST
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up?

Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:37:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:38:42 PM EST
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up?

Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:45:20 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:48:13 PM EST
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:50:12 PM EST
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Further - and this is pure speculation on my part so no spoiler tag - that could be one of the twists for later in the movie series... maybe she has more Force powers than she lets on?
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I'm kind of disappointed that Leia in VII doesn't seem to have any midich.  er, Force.  Only her son does.

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Further - and this is pure speculation on my part so no spoiler tag - that could be one of the twists for later in the movie series... maybe she has more Force powers than she lets on?


I thought that was alluded to in empire when Yoda was talking to ghost obi wan:

Ben: "that boy is our last hope."
Yoda: "no, there is another."
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:58:19 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:59:22 PM EST
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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up?

Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616

I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?


C'mon, they've always had 2!





Maybe in 30 years they decided to have a wizzo.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 2:59:51 PM EST
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:01:52 PM EST
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Give him time...............If you remember, Vader ( as portrayed in the Phantom Menace and onward) went from a little whiny kid, to a whiny teenager, to an adult with rage issues after Palpatine tells him he kills Padme..........I'd suspect that Ren will develop over time into a purely evil character with the same disregard for life that Vader had


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Give him time...............If you remember, Vader ( as portrayed in the Phantom Menace and onward) went from a little whiny kid, to a whiny teenager, to an adult with rage issues after Palpatine tells him he kills Padme..........I'd suspect that Ren will develop over time into a purely evil character with the same disregard for life that Vader had

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Casting the new Vader as a skinny goth dude who breaks computers when angry just seemed poor. The real Vader was big, with armor, and killed people. This new little punk just throws a temper tantrum and breaks toys.

Pretty much all the new heroes seemed like crap, like they were kids trying to copy mommy and daddy. Sadly it's a good reflection of modern society. My generation sucks.

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The one think I  liked was the similarities between Ren and vader... I think Ren has potential  as a bad guy, and  I also  like the ren/ big sith guy interactions. .. you get the vader/ emperor vibe...you know that the emperor wanted Luke as an apprentice over vader, And you get that same  vibe with the new big bad wanting the girl brought to him...
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:03:31 PM EST
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Lucky to get that much really.  Disney could have got damn near anyone they wanted to do it for free.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:03:32 PM EST
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Harrison Ford was critical. John Boyega knew full well he could be replaced with any of thousands of other unknown actors who would gladly do it for less.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:07:38 PM EST
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New Special Forces version

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I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up?

Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616

I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?

Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:08:33 PM EST
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I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform.



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I wonder if JJ might have been throwing a little bone to Kevin Smith by having Finn be a sanitation specialist before donning the stormtrooper uniform.

RANDAL: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.


ETA: Kevin Smith is in the credits for providing "additional voices" which makes this even more likely.



I thought the same thing when he said sanitation.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:11:07 PM EST
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS.
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS.


I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:15:06 PM EST
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I'm pretty sure that Carrie fisher had some work done. Why can't chewie? He probably needed to fool facial recognition software to dodge the department of empire security.
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His eyes got closer together.


Hairline from his nose up completely changed.

 






Looks like somebody gave him a comb. Possibly some styling gel




And removed a few bones from his brow.




I'm pretty sure that Carrie fisher had some work done. Why can't chewie? He probably needed to fool facial recognition software to dodge the department of empire security.


Peter Mayhew had to have knee replacements a year or two ago, I remember the big fan fundraiser to help him pay for it.  Reportedly, they had a stunt double for all of the movement scenes, and just used Mayhew for the close-ups of the mannerisms.



 
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 3:17:27 PM EST
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up?

Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616

I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?



I don't know about that, but 30 years is more than enough time to assess lessons learned for the battles in TESB and ROTJ and field improved models.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 4:04:32 PM EST
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Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time.  He can ride this shit out for a very long time.
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000



Harrison Ford was critical. John Boyega knew full well he could be replaced with any of thousands of other unknown actors who would gladly do it for less.


Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time.  He can ride this shit out for a very long time.

Yep. Working for peanuts as a main character on a movie this big is kind of like paying your fare to board the gravy train.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 4:14:54 PM EST
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I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way.
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS.


I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way.


I just assumed that she was talking about her adoptive mother and Bail Organa never told Leia she was adopted.  Then Bail's wife (Leia's adoptive mother) dies when Leia was still young.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 4:24:07 PM EST
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I don't know about that, but 30 years is more than enough time to assess lessons learned for the battles in TESB and ROTJ and field improved models.
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Did the Command Shuttle leave the cantina before the X-Wings showed up?

Because they should have shot on the shit out of this if it was on the ground:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d7/KyloRenCommandShuttle-Fathead.png/revision/latest?cb=20150908050616

I'm pretty sure there were TiEs running overwatch that were still in the air. Besides, the transport has armor and shields and guns too.

Also, in respect to the TiEs, what the hell was up with the weird gunners position. And since when did TiEs have a gunners position?



I don't know about that, but 30 years is more than enough time to assess lessons learned for the battles in TESB and ROTJ and field improved models.


It was just weird, he faced rearward but operated the forward facing guns as well as the rearward ones. At least I'm assuming there were rear guns as there seemed to be a viewport.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 4:31:55 PM EST
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Yep. Working for peanuts as a main character on a movie this big is kind of like paying your fare to board the gravy train.
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000



Harrison Ford was critical. John Boyega knew full well he could be replaced with any of thousands of other unknown actors who would gladly do it for less.


Plus John is now in it until his character dies, so it's not like he will get paid less next time.  He can ride this shit out for a very long time.

Yep. Working for peanuts as a main character on a movie this big is kind of like paying your fare to board the gravy train.


IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide.

I'm not worried; they will be well compensated.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 5:00:40 PM EST
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IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide.

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After it hits 1 billion, IIRC.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 5:04:11 PM EST
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I just assumed that she was talking about her adoptive mother and Bail Organa never told Leia she was adopted.  Then Bail's wife (Leia's adoptive mother) dies when Leia was still young.
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None of this bothers me as much as Leia remembering her mother in ROTJ and then Lucas having Padme die in ROTS.


I always imagined it was a force vision that of her that she remembers, not the actual thing. At least, I excuse that plot hole in that way.


I just assumed that she was talking about her adoptive mother and Bail Organa never told Leia she was adopted.  Then Bail's wife (Leia's adoptive mother) dies when Leia was still young.


In that scene, Luke specifies her real mother. I assume from that they know she was adopted.
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 5:14:11 PM EST
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I thought Ren's voice sounded like Chigurh from "No Country for Old Men".
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 5:42:21 PM EST
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Just saw it and I have one question,

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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 6:53:26 PM EST
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My take, besides that I loved it
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Makes sense considering the 'silver' storm trooper if ya follow my drift
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 7:30:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 7:38:22 PM EST
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It was even better watching it a second time.
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Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good.
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After it hits 1 billion, IIRC.
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IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide.

I'm not worried; they will be well compensated.

After it hits 1 billion, IIRC.


That's what I read.
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Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good.
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It was even better watching it a second time.


Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good.



I caught myself putting my hand up in front of my face when one of the explosions threw dirt toward the audience.  




I think I only noticed one or two "for the 3D" effects.   One only because of how truly awesome it was.

Tickets for Wednesday Imax are laying in front of me
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Link Posted: 12/21/2015 8:20:44 PM EST
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Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good.
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Saw it on a normal screen...friend is telling me I have to go see it in 3D because it was really good.


I saw it in Imax 3D and it was AWESOME.  The 3D effects were incredible.  The star destroyer looked like it was stretching out of the screen.
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Lucky to get that much really.  Disney could have got damn near anyone they wanted to do it for free.
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Harrison Ford was paid 56 times more than the new people. 25 million while John Boyega got 450,000





Lucky to get that much really.  Disney could have got damn near anyone they wanted to do it for free.




 
Not to mention the fact that he'll make a shit ton off of future SW movie deals, appearances, merchandise, video games, voice acting, etc. if he plays his cards right.




A trilogy like Star Wars should be a life changer for the newcomers.
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IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide.

I'm not worried; they will be well compensated.

After it hits 1 billion, IIRC.


That's what I read.


So...Wednesday?

Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic:  $247,966,675    46.9%

+ Foreign:  $281,000,000    53.1%

= Worldwide:  $528,966,675  
Link Posted: 12/21/2015 8:45:03 PM EST
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Want to know how good this movie is?

Mrs. Undefined refused to watch Star Wars for years and years. (Yes, I married an anti-Star Wars trekkie).

She has never seen the entire trilogy.

Her company rented out a theater for opening day. She got tickets for us.

She liked it so much she suggested I buy the other movies on Blu-Ray to introduce our three year old son to, and has since watched 4 out of 5* of them together as a family. We'll watch ROTJ tomorrow (she has seen half of it already the night before seeing TFA).

Now she is suggesting that we take our son to see TFA over the holidays, after he see's ROTJ.

TFA did the impossible. It turned my wife into a Star Wars fan. It's not that she was anti Star Wars all the time.... she did dress up as Princess Leia for our son's first Halloween (he went as Vader), and she did let me play the Imperial Death March in the delivery room when our son was being born, but otherwise she wasn't a fan until now.















*We don't watch Episode I in this household. Standards, we have them.
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Based on that theory

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IIRC he and Daisy will make a small % once the movie hits a set amount of sales worldwide.



I'm not worried; they will be well compensated.


After it hits 1 billion, IIRC.




That's what I read.
Here's hoping they aren't using Will Smith's agent.

 
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