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Posted: 11/11/2022 2:10:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. Inexperienced people with a chain saw and storm downed trees isn't a situation I would want to enable. I learned this post-Katrina in Hancock Co. |
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Posted: 11/11/2022 2:57:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Inexperienced people with a chain saw and storm downed trees isn't a situation I would want to enable. I learned this post-Katrina in Hancock Co. When I was a kid we had a neighbor across the alley from us cutting up a downed tree. The City told him it had to go, so he went and bought a new chainsaw to do the job. He had never used a chainsaw before. He was about 10 minutes in to de-limbing and the saw caught something and bucked right in to his neck. He bled out and died before the ambulance got there. |
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Posted: 11/11/2022 3:23:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I was a kid we had a neighbor across the alley from us cutting up a downed tree. The City told him it had to go, so he went and bought a new chainsaw to do the job. He had never used a chainsaw before. He was about 10 minutes in to de-limbing and the saw caught something and bucked right in to his neck. He bled out and died before the ambulance got there. There is a ton/s of stored energy in trees that aren't flat, de-limbed and laying on the ground. |
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Posted: 11/11/2022 5:57:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Raining pretty hard, so didn't tune in the cut, will wait until better weather.
Running great, idles great, new plug and new air filter for tuning. Ran it hard, full tank of VP 40:1 Out of the cut wot rpm's in pic. A few observations from a non saw mechanic: This lil saw was a bit harder and took longer to tune than the MS361 that I have played with, seemed pretty finicky with just a touch of the screws. It is not broken in yet, should perform even better after a few more tanks. The exhaust mod and tune was well worth it. Just a lil bit of throttle lag but not enough to fret over, definitely more than MS 361 which is fast on the trigger. Running the 500i with its zero throttle lag will spoil ya and make other saws seem slow when hitting em from idle to wide open throttle. This saw will tune up even better after a few more tanks, at least that's what the tree guys have told me.  It is a lil screamer now, and not that loud, tuning was done in a vice on covered patio. 
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Posted: 11/11/2022 8:59:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Raining pretty hard, so didn't tune in the cut, will wait until better weather. Running great, idles great, new plug and new air filter for tuning. Ran it hard, full tank of VP 40:1 Out of the cut wot rpm's in pic. A few observations from a non saw mechanic: This lil saw was a bit harder and took longer to tune than the MS361 that I have played with, seemed pretty finicky with just a touch of the screws. It is not broken in yet, should perform even better after a few more tanks. The exhaust mod and tune was well worth it. Just a lil bit of throttle lag but not enough to fret over, definitely more than MS 361 which is fast on the trigger. Running the 500i with its zero throttle lag will spoil ya and make other saws seem slow when hitting em from idle to wide open throttle. This saw will tune up even better after a few more tanks, at least that's what the tree guys have told me. It is a lil screamer now, and not that loud, tuning was done in a vice on covered patio. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/21FE82DA-DC5F-48F1-B164-8734FF1B1DB3-2596544.jpg You need to do a video of it. |
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Posted: 11/11/2022 9:48:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to do a video of it. Soon as I get a good in the cut tune, I will. I "feel" this dude wants more air. Replaced clean filter that came with saw (winter/snow filter) with an echo fleece type filter I think it has reduced the air intake. EDIT: definitely more restrictive filter, screw that, going back to non-fleece filter..will clean it more often. I was getting 13,600-14,000 on other filter. Pics of both filters. 
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Posted: 11/12/2022 9:13:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Raining pretty hard, so didn't tune in the cut, will wait until better weather. Running great, idles great, new plug and new air filter for tuning. Ran it hard, full tank of VP 40:1 Out of the cut wot rpm's in pic. A few observations from a non saw mechanic: This lil saw was a bit harder and took longer to tune than the MS361 that I have played with, seemed pretty finicky with just a touch of the screws. It is not broken in yet, should perform even better after a few more tanks. The exhaust mod and tune was well worth it. Just a lil bit of throttle lag but not enough to fret over, definitely more than MS 361 which is fast on the trigger. Running the 500i with its zero throttle lag will spoil ya and make other saws seem slow when hitting em from idle to wide open throttle. This saw will tune up even better after a few more tanks, at least that's what the tree guys have told me. It is a lil screamer now, and not that loud, tuning was done in a vice on covered patio. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/542569/21FE82DA-DC5F-48F1-B164-8734FF1B1DB3-2596544.jpg The throttle response on the 500i is pretty awesome….mine will be getting a workout today on a 30+” pin oak that fell in a storm earlier this year. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 12:47:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to do a video of it. @sierra-def Had to find channel and remember how to post video, been several years. Just a teaser to show throttle lag tuned our..happy about that. It needed more air intake, may modify air box, time will tell. Will post more video as I proceed.  Echo 2511T tuning |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 4:59:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Just modded the 261 CM muffler by removing the screen. It sounds a bit rowdy now. Much better.
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Posted: 11/12/2022 9:42:20 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. Feel like ass? Fuck that, nobody borrows my saws. Fucking NOBODY. |
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Posted: 11/12/2022 10:22:33 PM EDT
[#11]
I have a "loaner saw" I picked up used... I'm sure folks expect one of my good saws when they ask to barrow one from me... They get the Poulan Pro though.
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Posted: 11/13/2022 12:03:05 AM EDT
[#12]
I’ve had two loaned saws end up straight gassed. One was a 346xp that had a fresh top end. No more.
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Posted: 11/13/2022 1:04:14 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @sierra-def Had to find channel and remember how to post video, been several years. Just a teaser to show throttle lag tuned our..happy about that. It needed more air intake, may modify air box, time will tell. Will post more video as I proceed.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoYzWHPJKC0That idle 
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Posted: 11/13/2022 9:11:27 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve had two loaned saws end up straight gassed. One was a 346xp that had a fresh top end. No more. If I like you enough to loan you a saw….I like you enough to bring my saws and help….aka no loaners. 
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Posted: 11/13/2022 1:46:48 PM EDT
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Chain saws and pressure washer are a big no-no.
I would let my nearest neighbor use a saw because he's more particular than even I am but because he's pretty much just like me, he'd never ask because I don't borrow saws either. It's a self solving paradox
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Posted: 11/13/2022 1:50:54 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chain saws and pressure washer are a big no-no. I would let my nearest neighbor use a saw because he's more particular than even I am but because he's pretty much just like me, he'd never ask because I don't borrow saws either. It's a self solving paradox 
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Posted: 11/13/2022 1:51:38 PM EDT
[#17]
Yesterday all 2 cycle tools were treated to dumping the fuel for fresh mix, carb tuning and filters cleaned.
My "stump saw", an Echo CS6700 was torn down for a few parts. All is ordered. It gets abused and asks for more .just as if it has daddy issues and an Only Fans page. I decided to fix the few things I knew to be wrong with it. Clutch bearing, brake handle and chain adjuster and the little idle screw. $130 worth Good saw, never fails to run and gets beat on the regular reckon a little money is worth it to keep her it coming back for more. |
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Posted: 11/13/2022 1:55:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Feel like ass? Fuck that, nobody borrows my saws. Fucking NOBODY. I normally tend to help people out. This time I just had a feeling that both guys that asked to borrow the saw would have destroyed it and offer nothing more than "your saw broke" upon returning it. They were both upset that I wouldn't loan it out and tried to shame me for not giving it up. It bothered me when I posted about feeling like an ass. No longer bothered by it now, they can go fucking buy their own saws. Which neither have done. |
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Posted: 11/13/2022 3:06:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I normally tend to help people out. This time I just had a feeling that both guys that asked to borrow the saw would have destroyed it and offer nothing more than "your saw broke" upon returning it. They were both upset that I wouldn't loan it out and tried to shame me for not giving it up. It bothered me when I posted about feeling like an ass. No longer bothered by it now, they can go fucking buy their own saws. Which neither have done. That is always what happens, be it a saw or some other tool. I use my tools but I don't abuse them. I would like them to be around 20 years later at least if I can help it. |
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Posted: 11/13/2022 5:08:22 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I normally tend to help people out. This time I just had a feeling that both guys that asked to borrow the saw would have destroyed it and offer nothing more than "your saw broke" upon returning it. They were both upset that I wouldn't loan it out and tried to shame me for not giving it up. It bothered me when I posted about feeling like an ass. No longer bothered by it now, they can go fucking buy their own saws. Which neither have done. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Feel like ass? Fuck that, nobody borrows my saws. Fucking NOBODY. I normally tend to help people out. This time I just had a feeling that both guys that asked to borrow the saw would have destroyed it and offer nothing more than "your saw broke" upon returning it. They were both upset that I wouldn't loan it out and tried to shame me for not giving it up. It bothered me when I posted about feeling like an ass. No longer bothered by it now, they can go fucking buy their own saws. Which neither have done.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 7:44:03 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The throttle response on the 500i is pretty awesome….mine will be getting a workout today on a 30+” pin oak that fell in a storm earlier this year. @fox2008 How did it go? I’m afraid my dealer will get one in stock and I’ll be $1600 poorer. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 7:58:58 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guess I'm dumb. 40:1 master race. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I worked in the woods for 15yrs, had 2 stroke motors my whole life, ONLY 50:1, unless you're dumb. Guess I'm dumb. 40:1 master race. He must be REAL dumb... 40:1 is my compromise between 50:1 on my stock saws and wee whips, and 32:1 on my ported saws; and has zero negative effects, yet provides more lube for the bottom end. Also, I only run 100LL in my mix. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 8:03:21 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Feel like ass? Fuck that, nobody borrows my saws. Fucking NOBODY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I feel like an ass. Had 2 people ask me to borrow my saw this morning and turned them down. I have never had good luck lending out tools of any sort and not about to test that luck today. Feel like ass? Fuck that, nobody borrows my saws. Fucking NOBODY. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 8:06:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @fox2008 How did it go? I’m afraid my dealer will get one in stock and I’ll be $1600 poorer. If I only had 1 saw to choose from...500i all day long. Zero buyers remorse. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 8:10:23 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My saw porter recommended I run 32:1 in my ported saws. He must be REAL dumb... 40:1 is my compromise between 50:1 on my stock saws and wee whips, and 32:1 on my ported saws; and has zero negative effects, yet provides more lube for the bottom end. Also, I only run 100LL in my mix. Bet you use a caddy on the golf course
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Posted: 11/16/2022 9:02:02 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I only had 1 saw to choose from...500i all day long. Zero buyers remorse. Sounds great. Thanks! |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 9:49:32 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @fox2008 How did it go? I’m afraid my dealer will get one in stock and I’ll be $1600 poorer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The throttle response on the 500i is pretty awesome….mine will be getting a workout today on a 30+” pin oak that fell in a storm earlier this year. @fox2008 How did it go? I’m afraid my dealer will get one in stock and I’ll be $1600 poorer. If you keep a sharp chain on it, the 500i is hard to beat....I normally run a 25" bar but put the 28" on for this tree due to its size. Since it was storm blown it had a few smaller trees bent over in it's top and all the trees had a lot of pressure in them. I spent the first 20 minutes or so relieving pressure on the top of the tree and getting it mostly on the ground while my dad / wife / nephew cleared out a spot for the splitter and SxS & wood trailer with the tractor about 20' from the tree. (luckly the tree fell on a nice flat spot down by the creak. Once I started cutting trunk up for them to start splitting, my dad couldn't keep the bucked pieces moved to the splitter with the tractor faster than I could cut. The first few cuts my 28" bar didn't reach all the way across, the rest of the trunk, the bar was just enough to cut it clean from one side....and the 500i never bogged down once. It's an animal of a saw.....the only complaint I got was from the help....if I was facing away from them the 500i throws a pretty good rooster tail of chips. I made a 4' x 8' trailer to pull behind my SxS and this tree filled that trailer 3 times and the bed of both mine and my dad's SxS twice. If you cut a lot of wood, especially bigger wood, go ahead and spend the money.....you won't be disappointed. (sorry about your wallet  )
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Posted: 11/16/2022 9:54:27 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I only had 1 saw to choose from...500i all day long. Zero buyers remorse. Yep, it's basically the only saw I run now. I have my 362cm setup with a 20" bar that will get ran occasionally for bucking up smaller stuff, normally by my wife, while I'm working on bigger stuff or dropping trees. I have a 271 that hasn't been ran in a couple years and the 180 that is what my wife uses to help top out trees sometimes. I just about bought a 261cm last weekend at Rural King but decided not to, since I rarely pick up my current smaller saws. The 500i is a light enough saw that it doesn't bother me to run it all day, even in smaller wood.....plus I prefer a 25" bar so I don't have to bend over as much. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 11:51:15 AM EDT
[#29]
This video has it all. Ladders, wife unit, power lines, flying branches.
 Lucky Lady Avoids Tree Cutting Chaos || ViralHog |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:00:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This video has it all. Ladders, wife unit, power lines, flying branches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHt3kjT4g-8wtf? |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:04:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:25:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This video has it all. Ladders, wife unit, power lines, flying branches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHt3kjT4g-8At least he had his safety shirt on.
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:30:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Chainsaws and ladders are things that should not be used together 99.9999% of the time. Just to show an exception to the rule though.....here is Buckin Billy Ray dropping multiple tress together, from a ladder.
 Falling timber off a ladder For the record, I would not encourage anyone to try this.
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:35:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chainsaws and ladders are things that should not be used together 99.9999% of the time. Just to show an exception to the rule though.....here is Buckin Billy Ray dropping multiple tress together, from a ladder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wJeVcNb-lQFor the record, I would not encourage anyone to try this. That's a good way for me to end up dead.
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:41:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Buckin knows his shit. His saw collection is impressive to say the least.
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:52:03 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a good way for me to end up dead. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Chainsaws and ladders are things that should not be used together 99.9999% of the time. Just to show an exception to the rule though.....here is Buckin Billy Ray dropping multiple tress together, from a ladder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wJeVcNb-lQFor the record, I would not encourage anyone to try this. That's a good way for me to end up dead. That's a good way for most people to end up dead.....Buckin is a hell of a cutter.....I've learned a lot watching his YouTube channel. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 12:54:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buckin knows his shit. His saw collection is impressive to say the least. An amateur can pick up a lot of tips and tricks from him. Can also pick up some overconfidence. He's one of the few youtube channels I subscribe to. Like a polite version of Mr Rogers, but with chainsaws. |
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Posted: 11/16/2022 2:07:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My saw porter recommended I run 32:1 in my ported saws. He must be REAL dumb... 40:1 is my compromise between 50:1 on my stock saws and wee whips, and 32:1 on my ported saws; and has zero negative effects, yet provides more lube for the bottom end. Also, I only run 100LL in my mix. Downsides to running rich? Change spark plug a bit more often, but they are cheap. A bit more 2-cycle oil, but not that much more/ Some more smoke Running rich is not a bad thing. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 12:39:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An amateur can pick up a lot of tips and tricks from him. Can also pick up some overconfidence. He's one of the few youtube channels I subscribe to. Like a polite version of Mr Rogers, but with chainsaws. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Buckin knows his shit. His saw collection is impressive to say the least. An amateur can pick up a lot of tips and tricks from him. Can also pick up some overconfidence. He's one of the few youtube channels I subscribe to. Like a polite version of Mr Rogers, but with chainsaws. Buckin is cool. That said, it is still up to the person who is doing the cutting to understand all safety rules when using their chainsaw. But we know how well that works out when people read "pull" on a door and still sit there and try to push. |
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Posted: 11/17/2022 7:15:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buckin is cool. That said, it is still up to the person who is doing the cutting to understand all safety rules when using their chainsaw. But we know how well that works out when people read "pull" on a door and still sit there and try to push. You might need to open up your standard.....cause I'm sure I've done that more than once.
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Posted: 11/17/2022 8:47:37 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You might need to open up your standard.....cause I'm sure I've done that more than once. I agree, push/pull is kind of a shitty thing thing for OP to judge us on
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Posted: 11/17/2022 10:59:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You might need to open up your standard.....cause I'm sure I've done that more than once. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Buckin is cool. That said, it is still up to the person who is doing the cutting to understand all safety rules when using their chainsaw. But we know how well that works out when people read "pull" on a door and still sit there and try to push. You might need to open up your standard.....cause I'm sure I've done that more than once. Did you yell at the door saying "I am pushing!"
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Posted: 11/17/2022 11:00:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, push/pull is kind of a shitty thing thing for OP to judge us on 
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Posted: 11/18/2022 9:16:05 AM EDT
[#44]
Ordered this for the 500i
And yes I know you can't use the stock cover over it, no big deal to me. Not a huge fan of the oem filter system, I had already modified mine. WCS riser and filter |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 2:39:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered this for the 500i And yes I know you can't use the stock cover over it, no big deal to me. Not a huge fan of the oem filter system, I had already modified mine. WCS riser and filter I did the Egan Uni filter kit so I could use the stock cover. I have not stock covers for sale |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 5:42:15 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did the Egan Uni filter kit so I could use the stock cover. I have not stock covers for sale Egan makes good stuff. I considered those, just like this design better and am a WCS fan. Gonna try to make a neck extension for my lil echo to do the same thing. |
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Posted: 11/18/2022 6:19:25 PM EDT
[#47]
Happy Friday
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Posted: 11/18/2022 6:26:02 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buckin knows his shit. His saw collection is impressive to say the least. Yes they are. So are his axes. I could watch him file chain for hours.
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Posted: 11/18/2022 6:27:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes they are. So are his axes. I could watch him file chain for hours. Get the gullett 
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Posted: 11/18/2022 6:49:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An amateur can pick up a lot of tips and tricks from him. Can also pick up some overconfidence. He's one of the few youtube channels I subscribe to. Like a polite version of Mr Rogers, but with chainsaws. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Buckin knows his shit. His saw collection is impressive to say the least. An amateur can pick up a lot of tips and tricks from him. Can also pick up some overconfidence. He's one of the few youtube channels I subscribe to. Like a polite version of Mr Rogers, but with chainsaws. "Listen, friend..." |
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