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I've got Kensington Clark paint at ACE Hardware for paint. Any idea what matches up with their color patches? I'm going down there tomorrow to grab some white, OD'ish green, and another can of Marine One green. View Quote |
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I've got Kensington Clark paint at ACE Hardware for paint. Any idea what matches up with their color patches? I'm going down there tomorrow to grab some white, OD'ish green, and another can of Marine One green. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Sherwin Williams mix, possibly modify, I don't know how to translate their mixer info into ratios. 1 gallon Ultra Deep Base 640118709 BAC Colorant G2 New Green 6 oz + 11/32 R2 Maroon 2 oz + 3/32 + 1/64 Y3 Deep Gold 2 oz + 28/32 W1 White 24/32 only Full list of different Versions of Olive Drab with some recipies in various formats I mixed some by eye with basic colors, but it was for a one off, better write down ratios in mixing cups if doing it in acrylic. I started with an emerald green, then dumped in compliments until I got to the shade that looked right. That was over 15 years ago, but it was some starting point like that. Use epoxy cups to measure and make a pint, if it's the right oclor, try to make one with the written down colors and repeat. Bascially, how the paint store does it when they screw up your match. Any idea what matches up with their color patches? I'm going down there tomorrow to grab some white, OD'ish green, and another can of Marine One green. |
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You missed something, I think.
Side window SAR bubble for searching Those are optional though, I honestly couldn't tell you what the right ones are, but the sliding window look could be added. They have some good pics of other parts, too, if you wander around the site long enough. Don't they have windows low on the front so pilots can see distance to ground? Replaced with instruments? |
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You missed something, I think. Side window SAR bubble for searching Those are optional though, I honestly couldn't tell you what the right ones are, but the sliding window look could be added. They have some good pics of other parts, too, if you wander around the site long enough. Don't they have windows low on the front so pilots can see distance to ground? Replaced with instruments? View Quote Layers of detail. Those are just a.little deeper than we are ready for. I hadn't seen the bubbles . Those we might be able to pull off. |
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Quoted: The bottom numbers starting with MIL- Are the Blackhawk named colrs, and the last digits of those match up on that federal colors page at the top. Maybe bring in your phone and have them match a picture of a color swath? View Quote Probably closer to reality. That's what we did for the Marine One green. Different photos make it look so different. |
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Well, that was my redneck plan. Probably closer to reality. That's what we did for the Marine One green. Different photos make it look so different. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: The bottom numbers starting with MIL- Are the Blackhawk named colrs, and the last digits of those match up on that federal colors page at the top. Maybe bring in your phone and have them match a picture of a color swath? Probably closer to reality. That's what we did for the Marine One green. Different photos make it look so different. Well, you can skip most of that, load the printer color profiler on the device in properties/color managemnet, then save image of colors, hit pirnt, and it'll come out way clser than your phone. I'm pretty sure hitting print without any color profiles loaded in something like paint.net would yield a more faithful representation of the color to match prior to mixing, the cameras to mix don't do so hot off a glowing phone display simulating the color. So print it first. If it looks ok on paper, it'll probably look ok in output, but they'r never exactly the same, usually due to finish and how the particular paint chosen reflects light back. |
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Not that I've ever personally done this, but I have... https://i.gyazo.com/ccf42ffdff460eb75570e42e2a244b3f.png View Quote Get the cheap blades, they're still very sharp, even if an X-Acto branded blade lasts 3x longer, you'll still come out behind due to having to 'ration' them. They're a penny each!
On Blades... Get a lot more life out of all blades before resorting to new blade or abrasives (strop, stone), by using a steel! Get a perfectly smooth 3/16" - 3/8" diameter stainless steel rod, slice/sweep it just like cutting a bit off, with light pressure, around 35°-40° to surface. That action removes any burrs, wire edge, and straightens out the edge and doubles the life and it's free, not to mention faster than putting in a new blade. Be sure to polish the rod to mirror finish and have a few handy. Takes literally 4 seconds. Works on utility blades to fillet knives, won't revive a chip, but when used often, you don't need a new blade (or abrasive sharpening) nearly as frequently. Steels today got a bad rap, because they made them ceramic or ribbed. People didn't realize a perfectly smooth and hard chunk of steel could "sharpen". So they made them look like it would. Now a Good one is a lot of money, marketed toward chefs, butchers, etc. NOT a Substitute for proper angle and sharpening to begin with, which X-Acto and utility blades have, this only extends life. Sit end of rod on table at 45° angle from vertical, push blade straight down LIGHT PRESSURE, about trigger pull (Good Trigger, not a
The "Official Version" which doesn't do anything the rod above won't, once polished, however this has a nice handle and is long enough to deal with full sized knife blades and a lot easier to hold, and has a hand guard until you get the knack of it.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9XPELRRXT0[/youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9XPELRRXT0 This is what a steel fixes - Sharp blade that doesn't cut - Dull, because the edge is wavy or partially folded. The steel puts the bevels back together straight and smooth so it's like new again. AFTER a steel: No metal removed to make it good as new. Damn I ramble babble when I get on a hobby horsey, don't I? |
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Quoted: For that sort of cutting, Use X-Acto pen knives. You only need to put in a new blade 10x as often. If you do havee Xacto knives and they don't use htem, it's probably due to them being dull or out of blades. View Quote They've got plenty of pen knives, and new blades at their disposal. For what they were doing in that instance, I think they liked the way thicker/stiffer blade was working. Look at the way he's holding the knife. They were tracing over the lines with the blade multiple times, not trying to cut it all at once. They get cleaner, straighter lines in the drawing board that way. We have three folding box cutters that are favorites for working with the drawing board. He wasn't using much pressure, but I'll remind him to watch his thumbs. The only blood drawn yesterday was from the suture needle. |
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They've got plenty of pen knives, and new blades at their disposal. For what they were doing in that instance, I think they liked the way thicker/stiffer blade was working. Look at the way he's holding the knife. They were tracing over the lines with the blade multiple times, not trying to cut it all at once. They get cleaner, straighter lines in the drawing board that way. We have three folding box cutters that are favorites for working with the drawing board. He wasn't using much pressure, but I'll remind him to watch his thumbs. The only blood drawn yesterday was from the suture needle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: For that sort of cutting, Use X-Acto pen knives. You only need to put in a new blade 10x as often. If you do havee Xacto knives and they don't use htem, it's probably due to them being dull or out of blades. They've got plenty of pen knives, and new blades at their disposal. For what they were doing in that instance, I think they liked the way thicker/stiffer blade was working. Look at the way he's holding the knife. They were tracing over the lines with the blade multiple times, not trying to cut it all at once. They get cleaner, straighter lines in the drawing board that way. We have three folding box cutters that are favorites for working with the drawing board. He wasn't using much pressure, but I'll remind him to watch his thumbs. The only blood drawn yesterday was from the suture needle. Luckily, it was sharp. I forget how many stitches, but it healed perfectly because it was sharp/clean blade and quickly stitched. Getting cut with a dull knife leaves scars. Still, the rest of the info on saving an edge could save you time and money in blades, the trick is to hit the steel as soon as it's not cutting like a brand new blade. It'll keep cutting perfectly until you hit metal with it. I haven't re-ground my knife since I sliced my finger, I know it's a good angle for fast, clean cuts, and I use it often on cardboard, wood, tape, fingers, etc. Most sharpening (and knife) salesmen have people grinding away their blades to powder when they could be simply straightening it out to cut like new. Might be why they "improved" the smooth knife steel to have ridges and abrasives so they do more damage than good. Though the carbide 'sharpeners' are design of Evil, they rip a layer off leaving a jagged, but sharp edge, taking away 20x the material of a honing in a single swipe. --ETA: An ultrasonic knife would be magically awesomee for that board cutting, if you thought the oscillating tool was great, when it comes to thin stock, these are magic, better than a scalpel.
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A Shorter version of this, you probably already have, but students don't bother using it since it takes too long and isn't as fun:
Prevent this: The stitches wrap around under the finger as far, too. It was hanging on only by a little bit of skin when I got to the doc office. Click To View Spoiler |
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Quoted: Looks like a flat end mill they tacked a point on. Do they rip the outer circumference for first pass like a Forstner wood bit? I've always used split point and a punch if it walks at all, didn't ever try those "gimmick" ones that can't be sharpened with a grinder and dremel. View Quote If you look closely the drill has the point but the drill is much like a "hole saw". It is cupped and if run slowly will make a better hole than a regular bit. I use them to make holes for plugs in my wood working because they make such a clean circle cut. EBR edt: to fix spellum mistakes |
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All day in service today. No work to show, but I've got some updated photos and plenty of time today.
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Minor update photos: The edge we will try to reheat on Monday. I think we can flatten it out with clamps and the 3/4" lath. We were close on Thursday, but didn't have enough clamps on hand. I may pick up a couple more this weekend. https://i.imgur.com/BMwo87p.jpg It's funny how close the tail is to balanced, until you add the "football". Of course, the prop really sinks it. https://i.imgur.com/Bpp8yDy.jpg The slightly vertically challenged flight crew. https://i.imgur.com/iRFsXwv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lHCt699.jpg Thought you all might like to see the elk all set to dry out. They did a pretty darn nice job on this. We still need to add some epoxy, paint, and habitat before it will be ready for to go to it's home. https://i.imgur.com/alzqMHf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ewrfCK3.jpg View Quote Do you have lead weight tape? Put that along the wrinkled edge high spots and heat evenly to stretch it out, the sides will need tension to pull them flat, which may distort and thin other parts. Did the wrinkles happen during cooling, or was heating stopped with them in it? Was one popping up when another went down? Compound curves are a bit advanced at that size, you did awesome on the rest! Stretching to thin the material a bit rather than "pulling flat" could help, so one corner is pulled out like a rubber band if you can keep it evenly heated with gentle pressure on high spots only. Lead weight strip with double stick tape works good as extra hands if you can orient it so Gravity is your friend. That's a spendy sheet of plastic, replacements for vehicles with curved like that (motorcycles, ATV, utility) are made in a heated open mould, with excess cut off once pressed while still hot, you don't really have that option. Similar process for glass windows, but different procedures, since it's, well, laminated glass. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRi0s3cMg2U[/youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRi0s3cMg2U |
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Minor update photos: The edge we will try to reheat on Monday. I think we can flatten it out with clamps and the 3/4" lath. We were close on Thursday, but didn't have enough clamps on hand. I may pick up a couple more this weekend. https://i.imgur.com/BMwo87p.jpg It's funny how close the tail is to balanced, until you add the "football". Of course, the prop really sinks it. https://i.imgur.com/Bpp8yDy.jpg The slightly vertically challenged flight crew. https://i.imgur.com/iRFsXwv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lHCt699.jpg Thought you all might like to see the elk all set to dry out. They did a pretty darn nice job on this. We still need to add some epoxy, paint, and habitat before it will be ready for to go to it's home. https://i.imgur.com/alzqMHf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ewrfCK3.jpg View Quote |
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Over the years, I have always wondered do the people getting taxidermy work done, give back to the art program?
Pre-eta I so kinda wish I was a midget or little, little person and come to Powell high 1 weekend and play in and on all the art SHIT doesnt Arfdom have movie people? They could do a movie where everthing comes alive, storybook +indian in the cupboard + night at the museum.....it would make 87zillion dollars |
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Over the years, I have always wondered do the people getting taxidermy work done, give back to the art program? Pre-eta I so kinda wish I was a midget or little, little person and come to Powell high 1 weekend and play in and on all the art SHIT doesnt Arfdom have movie people? They could do a movie where everthing comes alive, storybook +indian in the cupboard + night at the museum.....it would make 87zillion dollars View Quote Most people who ask us to do taxidermy for them are very generous with donations thanking us. It really helps us keep the kids supplied with good materials and supplies to continue to do taxidermy. Every once in a while......no. That hurts a bit, especially if it's something as crazy amazing like, say, the bear eating the whitetail. |
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Cool to hear most folks are good
Now what about the movie deal, I can see it now...5 min into the credits "movie inspired by drunkin' Bansil" sounds like a spirit or goblin |
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It was a sad day yesterday as my youngest son headed back to UW. He sent me a text today saying that he'd discussed the shuttle problem(it is working, just not as he originally planned) with his Computer Science professors and they were intrigued. They want him to go back and rework it again.
They want him to try "using an optocoupler to isolate the motors from the circuit ". I think it's awesome that a high school Art project is still going after over 2.5yrs, and is now finding new attention with Computer Science and Electrical engineering professors at UW. |
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It was a sad day yesterday as my youngest son headed back to UW. He sent me a text today saying that he'd discussed the shuttle problem(it is working, just not as he originally planned) with his Computer Science professors and they were intrigued. They want him to go back and rework it again. They want him to try "using an optocoupler to isolate the motors from the circuit ". I think it's awesome that a high school Art project is still going after over 2.5yrs, and is now finding new attention with Computer Science and Electrical engineering professors at UW. View Quote What were the interrupts supposed to be from, I had no info, so trew out all suggestions that get rid of noise, the most common reason designs are flaky. |
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Quoted: I thought the motor driver used already had isolation isolated? Weren't you using This board? Or is there current sense on the doors to detect close? I don't remember what was actually decided for duration - time, limit switch, or current sense. What were the interrupts supposed to be from, I had no info, so trew out all suggestions that get rid of noise, the most common reason designs are flaky. View Quote I don't know much, other than there is a time limit that he changed as the motors have quickened over time, and the physical switch that the doors hit when closed. This was the original set up. It now just has the on demand feature. |
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I don't know much, other than there is a time limit that he changed as the motors have quickened over time, and the physical switch that the doors hit when closed. This was the original set up. It now just has the on demand feature. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I know I mentioned motor speeds changing with time in the future (well, in the past, about the future, which is now), but are they quicker for both opening AND closing? Check current draw from what it should be if it's a lot different, and make sure you have some spares (depending on how fast they're changing). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We still have the two extra motors thst are ready and easy to install as replacements if needed. I think it's mostly just loosening up that caused the motors to speed up. They went from 42, to 37 seconds for opening and closING times. One side still has a significant retardation in power to keep it equal with the other. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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+95.00 Crew members, and 2000 more rivets __________________________ $2,548.00 Total as of 1/22/19 So much for that 1200-1500 budget forcast at the beginning, huh. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: +35.00 for more plexiglass ____________________ $2453.00. Total as of 1/21/19. __________________________ $2,548.00 Total as of 1/22/19 So much for that 1200-1500 budget forcast at the beginning, huh. ________________________________ $2603.00. Total as of 1/27/19 |
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+$55 for Blackhawk gray/green and another sheet of plexiglass. ________________________________ $2603.00. Total as of 1/27/19 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We should be fine for finances, and the costs should start to taper off now, other than a few robotics parts. I'm just disappointed I was so far off on my estimate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Maybe you might have to sell more t shirts? I'm just disappointed I was so far off on my estimate. If I knew the scale of what you were going to do, the immersive diorama, I'd have said you couldn't get it done in time. Glad Ii shut up there. But $2k seems average after you add fiddly bits that aend up expensive for some reason. Is there a metal shop there that can mill brackets, or is it flame cutting and welding only type shop? Maybe you should get the machine shop and robotics teachers to make threads here as well. You'd have the most pimped out high school in existence! I seriously feel that once students graduate after taking all of your art classes, could compete with 'fresh out of junior college' kid, mostly due to understanding workflow, processes, project management, etc. Instead of having all that theory then seeing it fall apart when learning by fire at a job. Certainly better equipped for college if they choose that route as well, for the same reasons, in addition to the breadth of knowledge they've been exposed to. |
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The rivets have arrived! And yet there were some who were secretly excited to see them. It always amazes me who tasks attract what students. |
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Update 1/28 And cries of joy rang out through the halls of PHS. https://i.imgur.com/MNbkyeG.jpg How did I forget we had this available. https://i.imgur.com/LnDrtDS.jpg We decided to replace the screen.....agsin. https://i.imgur.com/z5rWWWR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hOK6CR3.jpg More skinning on the nose. This was the quiet portion of our day, so not to distract too much during my student teachers first full hour presentation. https://i.imgur.com/YR7LRIj.jpg We reinforced around the cockpit windows, then cut out the fuselage frames. https://i.imgur.com/5idr4ba.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DxYnzCd.jpg One of our pilots checking to see how the layout was going. Booster seat may be necessary....and possible lengthening of features. https://i.imgur.com/Fcs4pJz.jpg We can make them gain a little girth when we add uniforms. The heads might be the main problem. https://i.imgur.com/HZh0Jbb.jpg Landing gear details. https://i.imgur.com/VPcVGCb.jpg Most of this pipe will be covered, but it adds some structure for us. https://i.imgur.com/7DQuIzu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SFVhThA.jpg View Quote I didn't think there was anything wrong with the screen before, I'll have to go back and look at pictures if you want me to give my "input" (whining/complaining/suggesting expensive errors/incorrect info/etc) --ETA: Seems the screen needs more curvature with about 75% sized mesh holes, using thicker 'fencing', also, the model screen is oriented about 40° away from the horizontal position of the actual helo. Before Today: After Today: Real: |
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View Quote The mesh was some box we had at my house for our boys bathroom, sitting on top of the thrown, with towels, and stuff in it. Wife wanted it gone, and I thought it might be useful for the screen. We used it for the little vents on the sides of the tsil, near the base. |
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Thst tail looks pretty dang OD green in thst picture..
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That last picture will be helpful. I thought we had that one, but couldn't find it for the students. The mesh was some box we had at my house for our boys bathroom, sitting on top of the thrown, with towels, and stuff in it. Wife wanted it gone, and I thought it might be useful for the screen. We used it for the little vents on the sides of the tsil, near the base. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The mesh was some box we had at my house for our boys bathroom, sitting on top of the thrown, with towels, and stuff in it. Wife wanted it gone, and I thought it might be useful for the screen. We used it for the little vents on the sides of the tsil, near the base. |
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Quoted: It's far more grey than your current "forest green" color. If a local shop is mixing it with a computer mixing thing, you can ask them to make it a certain tint different and they can adjust the mix pretty well sometimes, though it's hard to make black lighter (unless you buy 5 gallons of white). This seems to be a more common color, in with the rest, I guess I never paid attention to the variations, but the radar/IR proof paints and high temp paints aren't the same colors as others, either, so don't sweat it too much. https://i.imgur.com/SdqFG6i.jpg View Quote I'll post a picture tomorrow. |
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For those interested, "London Has Fallen " has good Whitehawk scenes/ footage.
It's on Syfy right now |
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