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'Their cars are junk... he didn't want to drive that day!' Stepson reveals limo driver's safety fears hours before he was one of 20 killed in horror crash.

The stepson of the limo driver killed in a deadly crash alongside his 17 passengers and two pedestrians on Saturday, has revealed he had been reluctant to get behind the wheel that day.

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Did your momma drop you on your head when you were little? Having the specific license means that you at least have half a clue as to what to do in this situation. The method you keep pushing will not work in this specific situation. Heavily loaded oversize vehicle, automatic transmission, 7 or 8% grade with a T at the bottom.

Im not after giving you a hard time, pal. But I do this shit for a living, in the service area where this wreck happened. I know that class of vehicle, I know that road, and I know what I'm talking about.

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"Prestige lists its address as Crest Inn Suites & Cottages in Gansevoort, which serves as transitional housing. Crest Inn resident, Laken Prosser, 31, said Hussain once kept limos at the business, which he also runs. He echoed Richards' statements about the state of the cars. 'There were like four or five limos. They were junky, very very junky. I know they let people drink alcohol and do drugs in them because I found drugs in them,' said Presser, who said he occasionally cleaned the cars.

WTF? Halfway house for ???

Drug users if I had to guess.

Rehab and half way houses are becoming big business, albeit shady as fuck.

they run a traditional vacuum booster or a hydroboost?  Gas engine I'm assuming.   I lost the pump on a hydroboost truck once, it's disconcerting to lose brake and steering assist all at once.  They still work but you need to get your hulk on in order to make any rapid moves...and this limo was at least 2x as heavy as a 1 ton diesel.

Poor bastard driver probably knew he was proper fucked for a while before the impact.

Creepy fucker

If Cuomo told me s$%t was brown I would not believe him.  Having said that, it would not surprise me if a Paki business was shady and skirting the law.

Assume complete brake failure.  No places to rub against to reduce speed.  No runaway truck ramps.  What do you do?

I used the technique with an automatic.

only 17 died at stoneman douglas.  so.....  do we ban limos?

In what? Your mom's Prius? I'm telling you, E-brake will not stop that much mass on that grade. And the transmission's just gonna shift up when it's ready.

Something does not add up.


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Where is the hub? These things have twin I beam front ends in a 2 wheel drive... Where is the hub/rotor?

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I think it was said somewhere that there was still debris down there from previous other wrecks.

This...I doubt he'll be back

The lug nuts sheared? It's a spare?

Umm...

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Owner or the son in law who was running it?  2 days ago the owner was in Pakistan and his lawyer was in talks with the DA.  I would be shocked if he came back so soon.

Son of limo company owner connected to horror crash that killed 20 is arrested and will likely face criminally negligent homicide charges



Nauman Hussain, the son of the owner of the limousine company behind Saturday's crash that killed 20, has been arrested

The son of the owner of the limousine company behind Saturday's horrific crash that killed 20 people in upstate New York has been arrested.

Nauman Hussain was taken into custody on Wednesday morning.

Lee Kindlon, the attorney for Prestige Limousines, believes Hussain will be charged with multiple counts of criminally negligent homicide in connection with the crash.

He was arrested during a traffic stop on Interstate 787.

New York State Police said charges are pending at this time.

Hussain manages the day to day operations of the company, which is owned by his father Shahed.

Shahed Hussain is currently in Pakistan for a medical operation, according to Kindlon.

Kindlon said Shahed has 'signaled his willingness' to return to the US to aid the investigation. It remains unknown if he will face charges.

DailyMail.com exclusively revealed on Monday that Shahed, 62, fled to the US from Pakistan in the 1990s after he was accused of murder.

He began working as an FBI informant after he was caught running a dangerous DMV scam which helped immigrants cheat on their driver tests.

Kindlon said Hussain has been in charge of the company while his father is away.

'The owner of the company has been away for a couple of weeks and he spends time both here and overseas,' Kindlon told Good Morning America on Tuesday.

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DM gives about 20x more info than domestic "journalists"

Who goes to Pakistan (shit hole country) for a medical procedure?

Prophylactic prisonectomy.

Shahed, apparently.

And, who goes back to a (shit hole) country that you fled from because they were going to charge you with murder?

Paklistan?   Everyone who can.

We forget the Awans already?

Limo driver's widow says he previously expressed concerns about the state of the vehicles before it crashed and killed 20 people - as it's revealed he was cited for driving the limo without a proper license just weeks beforehand.

The widow of the limo driver who was killed alongside 19 others in a horrific crash in upstate New York said he had complained about the company's vehicles in the past.

Scott Lisinicchia, a long-haul truck driver, worked part-time for Prestige Limousines.

He was behind the wheel of a modified 2001 Ford Excursion stretch limo when it blasted through a stop sign at a dangerous intersection and crashed on Saturday.

And Kim Lisinicchia said her husband had complained about the cars he was asked to drive for Prestige, where he worked for more than a year.

'There were a few times where I overheard him say, "I'm going not to drive this, you need to give me another car"', Kim told CBS News on Thursday.

'They should have been more responsible. You have a company where you have people's lives in your hands. That's unacceptable.'

But Kim said her husband trusted the limo company when it assured him that the cars were alright to drive.

'I feel for the victims, I am in no way trying to make it seem like its about me or my husband,' she added.

'I just want my husband to be vindicated...I have to stand by him 'cause nobody else will.'

Lisinicchia's record has come under scrutiny after the crash, with New York Gov Andrew Cuomo revealing he did not have the proper license to operate the limo.

'I don't know what that's about,' Kim said when she was questioned about the license.

'Because...even if he didn't have the proper license, this still would've happened and I feel like he still would have been blamed.'



Keith Lisinicchia came to the defense of his twin brother on Monday, saying that he 'always kept his license up'.

'It was a CDL (commercial driver license). I know that he always made sure that it was valid and was in order,' Keith told WRGB.

But on Wednesday it was revealed that Lisinicchia was cited for operating the same limo without a proper license by a state trooper in August.

Lisinicchia was pulled over on August 25 after transporting 11 passengers in the Ford Excursion in Saratoga Springs.

Although Lisinicchia had a CLD-A license, which allowed him to drive trucks, he did not have the necessary permit required to drive a car capable of carrying more than 15 passengers, according to the Albany Times Union.

The Department of Transportation was made aware of the citation, as was Nauman Hussain - who runs Prestige Limousines with his father Shahed Hussain.



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On Wednesday it was revealed that Lisinicchia (pictured picking up a wedding party in 2017) was cited for operating the same limo without a proper license by a state trooper in August

Talk about bad luck one family lost 4 daughters and another lost 2 sons.

Just two days before the crash, the company listed the 2001 Ford Excursion for sale on Craigslist for $9,000 (pictured)



Andrew LaRose (pictured) said he and his wife rented the same limo that was involved in Saturday's horror crash that killed 20. LaRose said the vehicle belonged in a scrap yard'.

Lug studs sheared? That's an aluminum wheel... the studs would have wrecked the wheel.
I've seen cheap aftermarket wheels go on trucks that tow heavy and the Lug stud holes get bagged out real bad. Studs won't be affected at all.
Those wheels were resilient unlike some aftermarket wheel companies.

Spares were steel.

It's a conspiracy then.

Driver is 100% responsible for the safety of the vehicle if he thinks it's unsafe to drive. Period. If he was a truck driver with a valid CDL then he absolutely knew that. He has a significant amount of responsibility for the wreck and if he didn't have a valid license to drive one, he 100% knew that also.

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They asked family members for dental , jewelry, and tattoo info to identify the deceased. Wtf happened to them ? The limo seems to be intact ...

Have we seen more photos of the vehicle? I suspect it’s in worse shape than the few of it being towed out show.

Every photo I've seen is of the right rear 2/3 of the vehicle, no idea what it looks like from the other side. Or the front.

The engine was pushed into the drivers compartment. The front third to half is totally FUBAR.

It’s bad.   The interior photos are horrific

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And the plot thickens: "QUEENSBURY — Andrew Ratto has long wondered whether the luxury Bentley sedan in the bay of his auto repair business, and potentially one of its owners, were involved with the suspicious July 2013 fire that destroyed the Queensbury auto shop."

Former shop owner questions possible limo owner link to fire

I've driven plenty of auto trans vehicles down steep grades and never had one upshift while engine braking.

Son of limo company owner connected to horror crash that killed 20 is arrested and charged with criminally negligent homicide



Hussain's girlfriend and brother Shahyer (pictured) appeared visibly upset as they left Troop G headquarters in Albany on Wednesday. They were in the car when Hussain was arrested.

Hussain will be arraigned this evening. While he currently only faces one charge in the 20 deaths, there is a possibility that he could face additional charges in the future after the case is sent to the Schoharie County District Attorney's office.

His girlfriend and brother Shahyer appeared visibly upset as they left Troop G headquarters in Albany around 1pm on Wednesday. They were in the car when Hussain was pulled over and arrested.

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The son is out on $150K bond.



Nauman Hussain (L), the son of the operator of a limousine company that owned the vehicle involved in a crash that killed 20 people in upstate New York, leaves court with his lawyer Lee Kindlon (R) after posting bond.



Nauman Hussain was taken into custody on Wednesday morning and charged with criminally negligent homicide.





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The owners sons house he was living in.

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So what were they doing to pull in that kind of coin? Drug / illegal / terrorist /  gov payroll?

Have these been made public?

The brother has good taste in paintball markers.

All the above