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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:20:33 PM EST
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And if the time and money invested in the ecoboost was put into a v8 imagine what a beast it would be... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love V8s and will be sad when they're finally run off by the .gov but we can't deny the performance of the smaller forced induction motors. And if the time and money invested in the ecoboost was put into a v8 imagine what a beast it would be... The time and money invested in the ecoboost was to develop the technology, and it's not specific to a 4 or 6 cylinder. There's no reason they couldn't make a 4 liter V8 with turbos for example. As for the current V8 I'd argue the Coyote and the Voodoo are hardly lacking for effort and the ability to make over 100HP/L naturally aspirated on such a large engine is remarkable. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:21:29 PM EST
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Umm, yes they are. Have you seen the CAFE standards for 2025? Enjoy the current muscle car wars, because they won't last much longer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Last I heard, there was no V8 option for the Raptor. V6 EB and a 10-spd automatic Thanks to the EPA for this !! The Mustang V-8 is next going away sadly . The government is going to force you to buy what they want you to have like it or not 
no, it's not. Umm, yes they are. Have you seen the CAFE standards for 2025? Enjoy the current muscle car wars, because they won't last much longer. Your point? That is just the number the company must average for all of its passenger vehicle fleet by 2025. There will still be the Mustangs with their V8. All their R&D into the new 5.2 Voodoo and even the Coyote that they're still using - and you think it's going away soon? lol. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:21:30 PM EST
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Well we're talking a Raptor here, not a diesel truck. I just wouldn't ever be able to own a truck that isn't a v8. Something about a v8 with a nice exhaust when you mash on it is satisfying. I drove a friends Eco turd and wasn't impressed at all. Trucks should have v8s There's no replacement for displacement  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Truck looks sweet but fuck having an ecoboost Why is that? Stock for stock, they outrun a diesel. I was skeptical too but after driving a few and buying one I'm impressed. I still have my Cummins for real work but for a run-around/play/weekend truck they are pretty badass. Well we're talking a Raptor here, not a diesel truck. I just wouldn't ever be able to own a truck that isn't a v8. Something about a v8 with a nice exhaust when you mash on it is satisfying. I drove a friends Eco turd and wasn't impressed at all. Trucks should have v8s There's no replacement for displacement Well i do agree the sound of a V8 is something merican  but the turbos on the Eco do make it fun to drive.
Oh and I'm not saying it can hang with my deleted diesel but it runs pretty damn good |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:21:36 PM EST
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People bitched about electronic fuel injection when it started replacing the good ol' carburetor............... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love the Raptors, but don't love the 3.5EB. Pass. Initially I felt the same way. I loved the old 6.2 V8 and felt the power was appropriate for the outgoing Raptor. However, in an interview today, the lead Ford Raptor design engineer says the all new new high output Ecoboost engine "blows away" the 6.2 V8 in horsepower and torque throughout all RPM's. He claims the new HO Ecoboost blows away the outgoing V8 and is vastly superior in every way. I'm cautiously optimistic. The drivetrain sounds incredible. Ford engineer talks about the engine at about 1:20:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6nhuxv078
People bitched about electronic fuel injection when it started replacing the good ol' carburetor............... Only uneducated people did. I am not uneducated in the automotive world. I don't like small turbo V6 for truck engines, and I'm not going to change my mind because someone says I don't understand why they are better. 
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:23:07 PM EST
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Wheels are fucking ugly. Other than that, I'm interested.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:23:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:23:45 PM EST
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People said that 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, and 15 years ago... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Last I heard, there was no V8 option for the Raptor. V6 EB and a 10-spd automatic Thanks to the EPA for this !! The Mustang V-8 is next going away sadly . The government is going to force you to buy what they want you to have like it or not
no, it's not. Umm, yes they are. Have you seen the CAFE standards for 2025? Enjoy the current muscle car wars, because they won't last much longer. People said that 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, and 15 years ago... The 2025 standards were only released 3 years ago. You don't know what you are talking about. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:24:59 PM EST
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The 2025 standards were only released 3 years ago. You don't know what you are talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks to the EPA for this !! The Mustang V-8 is next going away sadly . The government is going to force you to buy what they want you to have like it or not
no, it's not. Umm, yes they are. Have you seen the CAFE standards for 2025? Enjoy the current muscle car wars, because they won't last much longer. People said that 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, and 15 years ago... The 2025 standards were only released 3 years ago. You don't know what you are talking about. Based on the then-upcoming standards/political climate/etc... Don't be ridiculous. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:25:54 PM EST
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Jesus Christ no one is talking about diesel trucks in this thread. Take off your oakleys for a minute and read Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Truck looks sweet but fuck having an ecoboost This. I expect a 6 banger in a Tacoma not a raptor. Haha the Cummins is a "6 banger" too. Don't see too many people in their right mind bashing that motor, regardless of what platform it is put in.... Stock its 800+ foot pounds of torque in the ram and mods can easily put it in the 1k+ hp range.... Jesus Christ no one is talking about diesel trucks in this thread. Take off your oakleys for a minute and read I wear ray bans brosive
Seriously though, if they would turbo the 5.0 that would be fitting for the raptor, but the Eco it gets so might as well enjoy it. Runs good and with a tuner its pretty damn nasty |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:27:04 PM EST
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Well we're talking a Raptor here, not a diesel truck. I just wouldn't ever be able to own a truck that isn't a v8. Something about a v8 with a nice exhaust when you mash on it is satisfying. I drove a friends Eco turd and wasn't impressed at all. Trucks should have v8s There's no replacement for displacement Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Truck looks sweet but fuck having an ecoboost Why is that? Stock for stock, they outrun a diesel. I was skeptical too but after driving a few and buying one I'm impressed. I still have my Cummins for real work but for a run-around/play/weekend truck they are pretty badass. Well we're talking a Raptor here, not a diesel truck. I just wouldn't ever be able to own a truck that isn't a v8. Something about a v8 with a nice exhaust when you mash on it is satisfying. I drove a friends Eco turd and wasn't impressed at all. Trucks should have v8s There's no replacement for displacement I still get a childish grin every time I hit remote start while standing by the tailpipe of my pickup. 
I do disagree on the ecoboost being a dog, though. Driving my brother's 2015 ecoboost and my 2014 Raptor within a week showed me that: 1- Ecoboost is better than I expected in power. 2- Ecoboost in a Platinum FX4 slays a 6.2 Raptor in gas mileage. That may be due to the fact that dropping the transmission into tow/haul and mashing the gas is therapeutic.
3- I still love a naturally aspirated V8. Prior to this, I had a GMC 6.2 for a few years. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:28:30 PM EST
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:31:03 PM EST
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I insist on a few things...call me a dinosaur. A V8 in a gasser pick up is one of those things. Pass on any gasser truck I can't get in V8. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Last I heard, there was no V8 option for the Raptor. V6 EB and a 10-spd automatic I insist on a few things...call me a dinosaur. A V8 in a gasser pick up is one of those things. Pass on any gasser truck I can't get in V8. I'll subscribe to your newsletter. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:31:03 PM EST
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Holy shit, i don't like that front end on the standard f150, but it is sweet on the raptor and expedition.
And the 3.5eb is a beast. Superior than a v8. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:31:50 PM EST
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I love the Raptors, but don't love the 3.5EB. Pass. Initially I felt the same way. I loved the old 6.2 V8 and felt the power was appropriate for the outgoing Raptor. However, in an interview today, the lead Ford Raptor design engineer says the all new new high output Ecoboost engine "blows away" the 6.2 V8 in horsepower and torque throughout all RPM's. He claims the new HO Ecoboost blows away the outgoing V8 and is vastly superior in every way. I'm cautiously optimistic. The drivetrain sounds incredible. Ford engineer talks about the engine at about 1:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6nhuxv078
People bitched about electronic fuel injection when it started replacing the good ol' carburetor............... Fuel injection systems sucked ass in the 80's to early 90's. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:32:53 PM EST
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Nice truck would be a third choice behind a Tacoma and then Tundra
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:34:14 PM EST
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I have a 2011 3.5EB Supercrew F150 that i am planning on selling to buy the new raptor.
the guys in here bashing the EB motor are just flat out wrong. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:34:52 PM EST
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If they don't Jack the price above 60k I may be forced to own that truck.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:37:00 PM EST
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I have a 2011 3.5EB Supercrew F150 that i am planning on selling to buy the new raptor. the guys in here bashing the EB motor are just flat out wrong. But but but... 'Murica! V8s! Manly stuff! Turbo is ghey euro socialist tech. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:37:18 PM EST
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I have a 2011 3.5EB Supercrew F150 that i am planning on selling to buy the new raptor. the guys in here bashing the EB motor are just flat out wrong. If they haven't drove one then maybe. I've drove in one on an extended trip and even test drove another when truck shopping. The engine doesn't do anything for me. Wouldn't buy it |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:38:04 PM EST
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat I live on a 3 mile long dirt "road" 5 miles from a town with a population a 371 here in northern PA. The nearest Target is 45 minutes away. Not everyone who owns a Raptor uses it as a bro truck. Mine was a beast on the roads here. Try to envision a much colder, much more mountainous version of The Dukes of Hazzard and you'd have a pretty good approximation of much of my daily commute. Perfect Raptor habitat. I love it! |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:38:47 PM EST
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No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Incorrect. A powerwagon takes that honor. Locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, and 4.56 gears.....and a winch for when ya cant back out. Your raptor is a 4wd pre-runner. Not a rig capable of complex terrain. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:38:47 PM EST
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No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Similar to people who call Jeep Rubicons mall crawlers. Sure, many don't leave the pavement, but they're great stock off-roaders. The Raptor also has the advantage of being almost stupefyingly comfortable on-road. My wife hates even marginally uncomfortable rides, and I heard about it every time she would ride in my S2000, Civic Si, and even Tacoma. She loves my truck and snags the keys if I leave them lying around. The first headache has just arisen, though. The front-facing camera has failed with only 7k miles on the clock and no abuse. I don't jump the thing, and drive it off-road as if I depend on it for a daily drive, which I do. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:39:58 PM EST
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I'm excited for the gen 2 ecoboost engine.
That outgoing 6.2 V8 was garbage, not sure why some of you had a hard on for it. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:41:55 PM EST
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Needs a V8 eco-boost.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:42:08 PM EST
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I'm on a waiting list for one.
Thought a year ahead was enough time, but I am way down on the list, because dealer allocations for these are very low and most wont discount, quite the opposite, the first batch will go $5 to $10 OVER MSRP. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:42:46 PM EST
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Nice truck would be a third choice behind a Tacoma and then Tundra Prior Tacoma TRD Off-Road and Current Raptor owner speaking here. I disagree. The Tacoma was a nice truck, and I'd still have it if it weren't for needing a half ton for towing. The Tundra is a non-starter in that trio, without a locking rear diff even in TRD trim. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:42:58 PM EST
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I have a 2011 3.5EB Supercrew F150 that i am planning on selling to buy the new raptor. the guys in here bashing the EB motor are just flat out wrong. If they haven't drove one then maybe. I've drove in one on an extended trip and even test drove another when truck shopping. The engine doesn't do anything for me. Wouldn't buy it The upcoming Raptor EB is said to be a very high output version that is estimated to be about 100 HP more than the existing 3.5EB. It will have much more power throughout the RPM range than the 6.2L V8 that it is replacing. I'll miss the sound of the V8, but I welcome the much more powerful EB engine. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:46:35 PM EST
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Incorrect. A powerwagon takes that honor. Locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, and 4.56 gears.....and a winch for when ya cant back out. Your raptor is a 4wd pre-runner. Not a rig capable of complex terrain. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Incorrect. A powerwagon takes that honor. Locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, and 4.56 gears.....and a winch for when ya cant back out. Your raptor is a 4wd pre-runner. Not a rig capable of complex terrain. I had my last Raptor in lots of complex terrain. It's huge size limited where I could go, but if it would fit, it would make it anywhere. The Power Wagon is also awesome, but the Raptor's front Torsen LSD and rear E-locker function up to 100 MPH. The Power Wagon lockers and SB disconnects only function at very low speed. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:48:58 PM EST
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I have a 2015 F150 with a 5.0. They were really pushing the EB ones. I'm not against them. I test drove both the 2.7 and 3.5. They had power but I could tell that in order to get that great MPG don't let that turbo kick in.
Couple of issues with any turbo, it's another high dollar component to maintain. I'm old school about V8 but I know newer turbo tech is here to stay. Don't be shocked most cars and trucks will have turbo engines within 10 years. Then we will talk about the older trucks and how simple it was w/o turbos |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:50:14 PM EST
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Bring back the Ranger... Digging the lastest models
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:50:16 PM EST
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I'd take an Echo Boost....in V8
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:50:59 PM EST
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I'm excited for the gen 2 ecoboost engine. That outgoing 6.2 V8 was garbage, not sure why some of you had a hard on for it. I'm also excited about the new EB. However, I'd hardly call the outgoing 6.2 garbage. Why do you say that? I owned 2 of them and never had an issue. Power was good and MPG's were not as bad as I thought they would be. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:51:39 PM EST
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Incorrect. A powerwagon takes that honor. Locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, and 4.56 gears.....and a winch for when ya cant back out. Your raptor is a 4wd pre-runner. Not a rig capable of complex terrain. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Incorrect. A powerwagon takes that honor. Locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, and 4.56 gears.....and a winch for when ya cant back out. Your raptor is a 4wd pre-runner. Not a rig capable of complex terrain. There's no perfect all-around off-roader, and capability depends on terrain. Roads are, generally speaking, paved things. Off-road can be anything else on the planet's surface. The Power Wagon is nice, but more of a giant mountain goat/crawler. I cross-shopped, but they wouldn't fit in my garage. The Raptor is smaller, yes more of a pre-runner. It's not a solid axle front/rear, but it is probably more capable on gnarly stuff than you give credit. It's a hooligan truck. The Rubicons are great for tighter trails but don't have the hauling ability of pickups. Then there are the myriad other highly capable off-road vehicles in their respective niches. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 9:51:40 PM EST
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My son's boss has a Shelby Raptor. Pretty impressive piece of equipment. Never leaves the pavement lol.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:09:14 PM EST
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I'm excited for the gen 2 ecoboost engine. That outgoing 6.2 V8 was garbage, not sure why some of you had a hard on for it. I'm also excited about the new EB. However, I'd hardly call the outgoing 6.2 garbage. Why do you say that? I owned 2 of them and never had an issue. Power was good and MPG's were not as bad as I thought they would be. Nothing special about it, just seems like a dinosaur engine to meet a certain power requirements everything else be damn. Still had to spin a decent amount to make power also so really its output isn't that impressive. I'm not saying it wasn't reliable, most engines made today are. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:14:46 PM EST
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There's no perfect all-around off-roader, and capability depends on terrain. Roads are, generally speaking, paved things. Off-road can be anything else on the planet's surface. The Power Wagon is nice, but more of a giant mountain goat/crawler. I cross-shopped, but they wouldn't fit in my garage. The Raptor is smaller, yes more of a pre-runner. It's not a solid axle front/rear, but it is probably more capable on gnarly stuff than you give credit. It's a hooligan truck. The Rubicons are great for tighter trails but don't have the hauling ability of pickups. Then there are the myriad other highly capable off-road vehicles in their respective niches. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Incorrect. A powerwagon takes that honor. Locking diffs, sway bar disconnects, and 4.56 gears.....and a winch for when ya cant back out. Your raptor is a 4wd pre-runner. Not a rig capable of complex terrain. There's no perfect all-around off-roader, and capability depends on terrain. Roads are, generally speaking, paved things. Off-road can be anything else on the planet's surface. The Power Wagon is nice, but more of a giant mountain goat/crawler. I cross-shopped, but they wouldn't fit in my garage. The Raptor is smaller, yes more of a pre-runner. It's not a solid axle front/rear, but it is probably more capable on gnarly stuff than you give credit. It's a hooligan truck. The Rubicons are great for tighter trails but don't have the hauling ability of pickups. Then there are the myriad other highly capable off-road vehicles in their respective niches. As someone who is off road a lot, that's a pretty good summary of those vehicles. I've owned a Raptor, Jeep Rubicon UL, and now a 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD OR. I never bought a PW due to the massive size. Off road around here, I would really struggle with a truck significantly larger than the Raptor which the Power Wagon is. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:15:16 PM EST
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Looks like a cool truck. I got 2 girls in college though.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:18:06 PM EST
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Looks like a cool truck. I got 2 girls in college though. That will slow you down. Obviously, the girls' education are a lot more important than some fancy truck. Good luck! |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:24:27 PM EST
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Id love to buy one but its not practical for my needs.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:25:00 PM EST
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Is the aluminum military grade?
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:29:02 PM EST
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Truck looks sweet but fuck having an ecoboost This. I expect a 6 banger in a Tacoma not a raptor. Haha the Cummins is a "6 banger" too. Don't see too many people in their right mind bashing that motor, regardless of what platform it is put in.... Stock its 800+ foot pounds of torque in the ram and mods can easily put it in the 1k+ hp range.... Jesus Christ no one is talking about diesel trucks in this thread. Take off your oakleys for a minute and read I wear ray bans brosive
Seriously though, if they would turbo the 5.0 that would be fitting for the raptor, but the Eco it gets so might as well enjoy it. Runs good and with a tuner its pretty damn nasty Supercharged 5.0 in an f150 will shit all over a 6.2 raptor. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:29:22 PM EST
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I want to dump my 13 ram for a raptor so fucking bad but the dodge has been great and it's paid off this year....
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:39:40 PM EST
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I like that very much. I'm sure base MSRP will be north of 60k though.
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:40:08 PM EST
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I'm excited for the gen 2 ecoboost engine. That outgoing 6.2 V8 was garbage, not sure why some of you had a hard on for it. I'm also excited about the new EB. However, I'd hardly call the outgoing 6.2 garbage. Why do you say that? I owned 2 of them and never had an issue. Power was good and MPG's were not as bad as I thought they would be. They just don't make the power they should for the displacement. Ford SOHC motors have all been that way. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:41:10 PM EST
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Well we're talking a Raptor here, not a diesel truck. I just wouldn't ever be able to own a truck that isn't a v8. Something about a v8 with a nice exhaust when you mash on it is satisfying. I drove a friends Eco turd and wasn't impressed at all. Trucks should have v8s There's no replacement for displacement Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Truck looks sweet but fuck having an ecoboost Why is that? Stock for stock, they outrun a diesel. I was skeptical too but after driving a few and buying one I'm impressed. I still have my Cummins for real work but for a run-around/play/weekend truck they are pretty badass. Well we're talking a Raptor here, not a diesel truck. I just wouldn't ever be able to own a truck that isn't a v8. Something about a v8 with a nice exhaust when you mash on it is satisfying. I drove a friends Eco turd and wasn't impressed at all. Trucks should have v8s There's no replacement for displacement 300ci I6 Ford Truck engine ring a bell............................. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:42:59 PM EST
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10 speed transmission? That sounds like it would suck. Have they improved recently?
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:43:19 PM EST
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Only uneducated people did. I am not uneducated in the automotive world. I don't like small turbo V6 for truck engines, and I'm not going to change my mind because someone says I don't understand why they are better.
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I love the Raptors, but don't love the 3.5EB. Pass. Initially I felt the same way. I loved the old 6.2 V8 and felt the power was appropriate for the outgoing Raptor. However, in an interview today, the lead Ford Raptor design engineer says the all new new high output Ecoboost engine "blows away" the 6.2 V8 in horsepower and torque throughout all RPM's. He claims the new HO Ecoboost blows away the outgoing V8 and is vastly superior in every way. I'm cautiously optimistic. The drivetrain sounds incredible. Ford engineer talks about the engine at about 1:20: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6nhuxv078
People bitched about electronic fuel injection when it started replacing the good ol' carburetor............... Only uneducated people did. I am not uneducated in the automotive world. I don't like small turbo V6 for truck engines, and I'm not going to change my mind because someone says I don't understand why they are better.
Have you spent any amount of time in a 3.5 EB vehicle? And 1/2 ton American pickups these days are passenger cars with beds............. That's the market segment they're going after. |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:44:44 PM EST
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I have a 2015 F150 with a 5.0. They were really pushing the EB ones. I'm not against them. I test drove both the 2.7 and 3.5. They had power but I could tell that in order to get that great MPG don't let that turbo kick in. Couple of issues with any turbo, it's another high dollar component to maintain. I'm old school about V8 but I know newer turbo tech is here to stay. Don't be shocked most cars and trucks will have turbo engines within 10 years. Then we will talk about the older trucks and how simple it was w/o turbos The current 3.5EB has LESS moving parts than the 5.0, and it's also much older.
I would love one of these trucks in white. the front grill and tailgate panel would go though, that's terrible. I love everything else! |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:44:47 PM EST
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No, it's not. The Raptor is the most "high speed" off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, it's like a spray tan on a pale jersy shore kid,overdone,gaudy show boat No, it's not. The Raptor is the most "high speed" off-road capable factory pickup you can buy. It's not just for show. Sure, there will be city folk who buy them and never leave the pavement. That doesn't change the fact that it's a good truck for off-roading. FIFY |
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Posted: 1/11/2016 10:44:53 PM EST
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Last I heard, there was no V8 option for the Raptor. V6 EB and a 10-spd automatic lol well it sure is a fancy looking gelding then. No V8 = not a real (full sized) truck. IMO. |
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