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Lol I expected this thread to blow up. It’s amazing how bent out of shape people get over videos like this.
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The Ford GT is built to race in the endurance series. It's a GTE car. With that, there are rules to keep the playing field level. They wouldn't be able to race it with a turbo V8. Sure, they could offer a street version with a 1k HP twin turbo V8, but they don't make and sell enough for that to be worth it. Besides, that would be missing the point of the car. View Quote Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. |
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I am sorry, but I don't get the whole engine configuration "racism", or in your case, "sexism" thing. I do get that an engine can have a "personality" that has appeal. Results matter. Inline, overhead cam sixes, large displacement, cross plane crank, pushrod V-8's, overhead cam, 4 valve V-8's, flat-sixes, V-12's, Flat-12's, Inline, DOHC, 4's with variable valve timing. Super or turbo charged versions of each. And now we have overhead cam V-6's, with twin turbos that in ordinary trucks make more power at low rpm's than big block V-8's. Each of these engines has been applied to achieve spectacular results. Economics, fuel consumption, driveability, packaging, center of gravity, weight all play a role. The engine is a part of a system with the vehicle. The application of the engine to the vehicles purpose is what matters. Artificial judgemental requirements such as hp/displacement, number of cylinders, or other stand alone attributes aren't the measure of the overall system performance. In the 80's, high strung, small displacement turbo engines in passenger cars had a short duration, limited appeal. Sure they produced high power for displacement, but they tended to be peaky and laggy. Now Ford, applies technology and we have low rpm power out of V-6's. Inline 4's to. This is progress. Get over it. For what it's worth, I like my inline 6 turbodiesel, my overhead cam, NA V-8, and before that my long stroke DOHC, inline 4. Each had something to cause it's appeal. When you drive it, you find what you like. Some engines, don't appeal to me. Some have faults, but they also excel in other areas. I weigh that sum to determine it's appeal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: No, I'm aware. That was the time Ford was asshurt that Enzo wouldn't sell him his company, his pride and joy, and had to get Carol shelby, Holman Moody, and bring a massive corporation's dollars to play to beat an old man running his small business, after years of trying, right? What a hero! Arf loves a big company kicking sand in a small business guy's face. Imagine Colt getting upset at geissele after he wouldn't give up everything concerning his pride and joy, begging the BCM guys to help, and taking years to stick it to geissele. And everyone celebrating that goliath beat david. And a few backwards cartwheels doesn't get us to - V6 being the most desirable thing Ford could have put in a $400,000 car that they won't sell you. But hey, can you believe it? It's faster than $100,000 car and guys are congratulation themselves about it, and in such a rush to claim that V6 is the end all be all! "3.5L V6 isn't really the sexiest engine I've seen in a car that runs $400,000" is now such a triggering phrase, it gets personal attacks out of the fans. The same people saying the V8 was dead, because, a $400,000 car that none of us can buy was faster than a $100,000 car. Pretty amazing. Results matter. Inline, overhead cam sixes, large displacement, cross plane crank, pushrod V-8's, overhead cam, 4 valve V-8's, flat-sixes, V-12's, Flat-12's, Inline, DOHC, 4's with variable valve timing. Super or turbo charged versions of each. And now we have overhead cam V-6's, with twin turbos that in ordinary trucks make more power at low rpm's than big block V-8's. Each of these engines has been applied to achieve spectacular results. Economics, fuel consumption, driveability, packaging, center of gravity, weight all play a role. The engine is a part of a system with the vehicle. The application of the engine to the vehicles purpose is what matters. Artificial judgemental requirements such as hp/displacement, number of cylinders, or other stand alone attributes aren't the measure of the overall system performance. In the 80's, high strung, small displacement turbo engines in passenger cars had a short duration, limited appeal. Sure they produced high power for displacement, but they tended to be peaky and laggy. Now Ford, applies technology and we have low rpm power out of V-6's. Inline 4's to. This is progress. Get over it. For what it's worth, I like my inline 6 turbodiesel, my overhead cam, NA V-8, and before that my long stroke DOHC, inline 4. Each had something to cause it's appeal. When you drive it, you find what you like. Some engines, don't appeal to me. Some have faults, but they also excel in other areas. I weigh that sum to determine it's appeal. But this thread became about throwing feces before I got here If we got here on page 1 this thread might have stayed on the rail, but purses came out and out came the suggested avatar changes because of disagreements and taste preferences. BTW, not loving a V6 in a $400,000 supercar, means you're stuck in 1960 because, that's not a total strawman. Quoted:
Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. |
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Quoted: According to google, because I dared to be critical of the blue oval I now have to be specific, the Gt's engine specs are: Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. View Quote |
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Yup, cause they won't sell you one, for one. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. While the people who do have the money for a car like this are lining up for the chance to buy one. They will sell every single car they make to people who want it so bad they are cool with waiting a couple years to take delivery. But hey, a V8 would have made it more desirable to people who were never going to buy one anyway lol |
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According to google, because I dared to be critical of the blue oval I now have to be specific, the Gt's engine specs are: Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Ford GT is built to race in the endurance series. It's a GTE car. With that, there are rules to keep the playing field level. They wouldn't be able to race it with a turbo V8. Sure, they could offer a street version with a 1k HP twin turbo V8, but they don't make and sell enough for that to be worth it. Besides, that would be missing the point of the car. Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. |
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+1 It's all about fun, people! F..U..n. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol I expected this thread to blow up. It’s amazing how bent out of shape people get over videos like this. It's all about fun, people! F..U..n. Both are sweet cars. Fun to see how they stack up in conditions comparable to a public street. It's crazy how such a simple video turns into a holy war around here. |
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Quoted: But but but whats the point of this video you post?!? muh Demon needs drag strip, Ford GT has v6 therefore it is for faggots! Both are sweet cars. Fun to see how they stack up in conditions comparable to a public street. It's crazy how such a simple video turns into a holy war around here. View Quote |
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lol no more like you and basically the entire "but muh V8" crew that show up in all the Ford GT threads, were never going to buy this (or any other) half million dollar car no matter what was powering it or how easy it is to buy. While the people who do have the money for a car like this are lining up for the chance to buy one. They will sell every single car they make to people who want it so bad they are cool with waiting a couple years to take delivery. But hey, a V8 would have made it more desirable to people who were never going to buy one anyway lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. While the people who do have the money for a car like this are lining up for the chance to buy one. They will sell every single car they make to people who want it so bad they are cool with waiting a couple years to take delivery. But hey, a V8 would have made it more desirable to people who were never going to buy one anyway lol |
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Even if it were more desirable, it’s unnecessary, both because the performance is already very good, and the fact that they’ll sell every one they make anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Ford GT is built to race in the endurance series. It's a GTE car. With that, there are rules to keep the playing field level. They wouldn't be able to race it with a turbo V8. Sure, they could offer a street version with a 1k HP twin turbo V8, but they don't make and sell enough for that to be worth it. Besides, that would be missing the point of the car. Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. How's your super duty man? IIRC, a white F350 right? Treating you well? |
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Very technical and very reasonable way to look at it. But this thread became about throwing feces before I got here If we got here on page 1 this thread might have stayed on the rail, but purses came out and out came the suggested avatar changes because of disagreements and taste preferences. BTW, not loving a V6 in a $400,000 supercar, means you're stuck in 1960 because, that's not a total strawman. Yup, cause they won't sell you one, for one. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: No, I'm aware. That was the time Ford was asshurt that Enzo wouldn't sell him his company, his pride and joy, and had to get Carol shelby, Holman Moody, and bring a massive corporation's dollars to play to beat an old man running his small business, after years of trying, right? What a hero! Arf loves a big company kicking sand in a small business guy's face. Imagine Colt getting upset at geissele after he wouldn't give up everything concerning his pride and joy, begging the BCM guys to help, and taking years to stick it to geissele. And everyone celebrating that goliath beat david. And a few backwards cartwheels doesn't get us to - V6 being the most desirable thing Ford could have put in a $400,000 car that they won't sell you. But hey, can you believe it? It's faster than $100,000 car and guys are congratulation themselves about it, and in such a rush to claim that V6 is the end all be all! "3.5L V6 isn't really the sexiest engine I've seen in a car that runs $400,000" is now such a triggering phrase, it gets personal attacks out of the fans. The same people saying the V8 was dead, because, a $400,000 car that none of us can buy was faster than a $100,000 car. Pretty amazing. Results matter. Inline, overhead cam sixes, large displacement, cross plane crank, pushrod V-8's, overhead cam, 4 valve V-8's, flat-sixes, V-12's, Flat-12's, Inline, DOHC, 4's with variable valve timing. Super or turbo charged versions of each. And now we have overhead cam V-6's, with twin turbos that in ordinary trucks make more power at low rpm's than big block V-8's. Each of these engines has been applied to achieve spectacular results. Economics, fuel consumption, driveability, packaging, center of gravity, weight all play a role. The engine is a part of a system with the vehicle. The application of the engine to the vehicles purpose is what matters. Artificial judgemental requirements such as hp/displacement, number of cylinders, or other stand alone attributes aren't the measure of the overall system performance. In the 80's, high strung, small displacement turbo engines in passenger cars had a short duration, limited appeal. Sure they produced high power for displacement, but they tended to be peaky and laggy. Now Ford, applies technology and we have low rpm power out of V-6's. Inline 4's to. This is progress. Get over it. For what it's worth, I like my inline 6 turbodiesel, my overhead cam, NA V-8, and before that my long stroke DOHC, inline 4. Each had something to cause it's appeal. When you drive it, you find what you like. Some engines, don't appeal to me. Some have faults, but they also excel in other areas. I weigh that sum to determine it's appeal. But this thread became about throwing feces before I got here If we got here on page 1 this thread might have stayed on the rail, but purses came out and out came the suggested avatar changes because of disagreements and taste preferences. BTW, not loving a V6 in a $400,000 supercar, means you're stuck in 1960 because, that's not a total strawman. Quoted:
Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. |
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They won't sell you one, and they'll sue if you try to buy from someone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. While the people who do have the money for a car like this are lining up for the chance to buy one. They will sell every single car they make to people who want it so bad they are cool with waiting a couple years to take delivery. But hey, a V8 would have made it more desirable to people who were never going to buy one anyway lol |
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My feelings are neutral. You're the one ranting about a car you cant buy and and offering tidbits of engineering wisdom on how to increase sales on a limited production car that sells out as soon as they give it the green light. I almost forgot your gem of a reason they use the ecoboost is so the truck and regular mustang owners can feel better about themselves, your words. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: No, I'm aware. That was the time Ford was asshurt that Enzo wouldn't sell him his company, his pride and joy, and had to get Carol shelby, Holman Moody, and bring a massive corporation's dollars to play to beat an old man running his small business, after years of trying, right? What a hero! Arf loves a big company kicking sand in a small business guy's face. Imagine Colt getting upset at geissele after he wouldn't give up everything concerning his pride and joy, begging the BCM guys to help, and taking years to stick it to geissele. And everyone celebrating that goliath beat david. And a few backwards cartwheels doesn't get us to - V6 being the most desirable thing Ford could have put in a $400,000 car that they won't sell you. But hey, can you believe it? It's faster than $100,000 car and guys are congratulation themselves about it, and in such a rush to claim that V6 is the end all be all! "3.5L V6 isn't really the sexiest engine I've seen in a car that runs $400,000" is now such a triggering phrase, it gets personal attacks out of the fans. The same people saying the V8 was dead, because, a $400,000 car that none of us can buy was faster than a $100,000 car. Pretty amazing. Results matter. Inline, overhead cam sixes, large displacement, cross plane crank, pushrod V-8's, overhead cam, 4 valve V-8's, flat-sixes, V-12's, Flat-12's, Inline, DOHC, 4's with variable valve timing. Super or turbo charged versions of each. And now we have overhead cam V-6's, with twin turbos that in ordinary trucks make more power at low rpm's than big block V-8's. Each of these engines has been applied to achieve spectacular results. Economics, fuel consumption, driveability, packaging, center of gravity, weight all play a role. The engine is a part of a system with the vehicle. The application of the engine to the vehicles purpose is what matters. Artificial judgemental requirements such as hp/displacement, number of cylinders, or other stand alone attributes aren't the measure of the overall system performance. In the 80's, high strung, small displacement turbo engines in passenger cars had a short duration, limited appeal. Sure they produced high power for displacement, but they tended to be peaky and laggy. Now Ford, applies technology and we have low rpm power out of V-6's. Inline 4's to. This is progress. Get over it. For what it's worth, I like my inline 6 turbodiesel, my overhead cam, NA V-8, and before that my long stroke DOHC, inline 4. Each had something to cause it's appeal. When you drive it, you find what you like. Some engines, don't appeal to me. Some have faults, but they also excel in other areas. I weigh that sum to determine it's appeal. But this thread became about throwing feces before I got here If we got here on page 1 this thread might have stayed on the rail, but purses came out and out came the suggested avatar changes because of disagreements and taste preferences. BTW, not loving a V6 in a $400,000 supercar, means you're stuck in 1960 because, that's not a total strawman. Quoted:
Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. |
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Yes, it's pretty obvious it was chosen in part to boost the profile of the eco-boost brand, if that flies over your head that's okay. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: No, I'm aware. That was the time Ford was asshurt that Enzo wouldn't sell him his company, his pride and joy, and had to get Carol shelby, Holman Moody, and bring a massive corporation's dollars to play to beat an old man running his small business, after years of trying, right? What a hero! Arf loves a big company kicking sand in a small business guy's face. Imagine Colt getting upset at geissele after he wouldn't give up everything concerning his pride and joy, begging the BCM guys to help, and taking years to stick it to geissele. And everyone celebrating that goliath beat david. And a few backwards cartwheels doesn't get us to - V6 being the most desirable thing Ford could have put in a $400,000 car that they won't sell you. But hey, can you believe it? It's faster than $100,000 car and guys are congratulation themselves about it, and in such a rush to claim that V6 is the end all be all! "3.5L V6 isn't really the sexiest engine I've seen in a car that runs $400,000" is now such a triggering phrase, it gets personal attacks out of the fans. The same people saying the V8 was dead, because, a $400,000 car that none of us can buy was faster than a $100,000 car. Pretty amazing. Results matter. Inline, overhead cam sixes, large displacement, cross plane crank, pushrod V-8's, overhead cam, 4 valve V-8's, flat-sixes, V-12's, Flat-12's, Inline, DOHC, 4's with variable valve timing. Super or turbo charged versions of each. And now we have overhead cam V-6's, with twin turbos that in ordinary trucks make more power at low rpm's than big block V-8's. Each of these engines has been applied to achieve spectacular results. Economics, fuel consumption, driveability, packaging, center of gravity, weight all play a role. The engine is a part of a system with the vehicle. The application of the engine to the vehicles purpose is what matters. Artificial judgemental requirements such as hp/displacement, number of cylinders, or other stand alone attributes aren't the measure of the overall system performance. In the 80's, high strung, small displacement turbo engines in passenger cars had a short duration, limited appeal. Sure they produced high power for displacement, but they tended to be peaky and laggy. Now Ford, applies technology and we have low rpm power out of V-6's. Inline 4's to. This is progress. Get over it. For what it's worth, I like my inline 6 turbodiesel, my overhead cam, NA V-8, and before that my long stroke DOHC, inline 4. Each had something to cause it's appeal. When you drive it, you find what you like. Some engines, don't appeal to me. Some have faults, but they also excel in other areas. I weigh that sum to determine it's appeal. But this thread became about throwing feces before I got here If we got here on page 1 this thread might have stayed on the rail, but purses came out and out came the suggested avatar changes because of disagreements and taste preferences. BTW, not loving a V6 in a $400,000 supercar, means you're stuck in 1960 because, that's not a total strawman. Quoted:
Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. |
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Quoted: No, I'm aware. That was the time Ford was asshurt that Enzo wouldn't sell him his company, his pride and joy, and had to get Carol shelby, Holman Moody, and bring a massive corporation's dollars to play to beat an old man running his small business, after years of trying, right? What a hero! Arf loves a big company kicking sand in a small business guy's face. Imagine Colt getting upset at geissele after he wouldn't give up everything concerning his pride and joy, begging the BCM guys to help, and taking years to stick it to geissele. And everyone celebrating that goliath beat david. And a few backwards cartwheels doesn't get us to - V6 being the most desirable thing Ford could have put in a $400,000 car that they won't sell you. But hey, can you believe it? It's faster than $100,000 car and guys are congratulation themselves about it, and in such a rush to claim that V6 is the end all be all! "3.5L V6 isn't really the sexiest engine I've seen in a car that runs $400,000" is now such a triggering phrase, it gets personal attacks out of the fans. The same people saying the V8 was dead, because, a $400,000 car that none of us can buy was faster than a $100,000 car. Pretty amazing. Results matter. Inline, overhead cam sixes, large displacement, cross plane crank, pushrod V-8's, overhead cam, 4 valve V-8's, flat-sixes, V-12's, Flat-12's, Inline, DOHC, 4's with variable valve timing. Super or turbo charged versions of each. And now we have overhead cam V-6's, with twin turbos that in ordinary trucks make more power at low rpm's than big block V-8's. Each of these engines has been applied to achieve spectacular results. Economics, fuel consumption, driveability, packaging, center of gravity, weight all play a role. The engine is a part of a system with the vehicle. The application of the engine to the vehicles purpose is what matters. Artificial judgemental requirements such as hp/displacement, number of cylinders, or other stand alone attributes aren't the measure of the overall system performance. In the 80's, high strung, small displacement turbo engines in passenger cars had a short duration, limited appeal. Sure they produced high power for displacement, but they tended to be peaky and laggy. Now Ford, applies technology and we have low rpm power out of V-6's. Inline 4's to. This is progress. Get over it. For what it's worth, I like my inline 6 turbodiesel, my overhead cam, NA V-8, and before that my long stroke DOHC, inline 4. Each had something to cause it's appeal. When you drive it, you find what you like. Some engines, don't appeal to me. Some have faults, but they also excel in other areas. I weigh that sum to determine it's appeal. But this thread became about throwing feces before I got here If we got here on page 1 this thread might have stayed on the rail, but purses came out and out came the suggested avatar changes because of disagreements and taste preferences. BTW, not loving a V6 in a $400,000 supercar, means you're stuck in 1960 because, that's not a total strawman. Quoted:
Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. |
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Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. |
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. |
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. |
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. And you happened to have it on tap? then that's a pretty decent meme library. I too have a meme library, I appreciate a fellow meme farmer. |
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. And you happened to have it on tap? then that's a pretty decent meme library. I too have a meme library, I appreciate a fellow meme farmer. I assure you I didn't make it. Attached File I do enjoy the farming. |
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. And you happened to have it on tap? then that's a pretty decent meme library. I too have a meme library, I appreciate a fellow meme farmer. I assure you I didn't make it.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/Nope193-634239_jpg-823578.JPG I do enjoy the farming. "folks, he's not lyin' Swampgrass anymore. Oh it's true folks, it's true. He's beautiful Swampgrass. Believeme." Texas-bound, Trump praises 'beautiful' Ted Cruz |
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Yep, more desire able to people who were never going to buy one anyway. Unless you limbo the way they want you to. And if you try to sell yours, if you get one, they'll sue you. Quoted:
Somehow the guy in the video purchased one. The GT has nothing to do with people feeling better about the ecoboost in their daily driver. Tis a bit early to be so drunk. Change your profile pic.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/fake-gnus-593ed5_jpg-823431.JPG I don't know what it is you think you've said here but. Again, another off topic, prod at the guy posting because: Someone's feelings are hurt that not everyone is in total love with the blue oval and V6s in a $400,000 super car. Wow. The guy who made me an avatar, had nothing to say about my post, instead had comments about me, now backpeddling to, "I'm neutral yeah I don't have hurt feelings" you're saying that for you, you're not saying that for me. I don't believe you. And you happened to have it on tap? then that's a pretty decent meme library. I too have a meme library, I appreciate a fellow meme farmer. I assure you I didn't make it.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427921/Nope193-634239_jpg-823578.JPG I do enjoy the farming. "folks, he's not lyin' Swampgrass anymore. Oh it's true folks, it's true. He's beautiful Swampgrass. Believeme." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3uQut5iUmc |
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The Ford GT is built to race in the endurance series. It's a GTE car. With that, there are rules to keep the playing field level. They wouldn't be able to race it with a turbo V8. Sure, they could offer a street version with a 1k HP twin turbo V8, but they don't make and sell enough for that to be worth it. Besides, that would be missing the point of the car. Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. How's your super duty man? IIRC, a white F350 right? Treating you well? |
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The Ford GT is built to race in the endurance series. It's a GTE car. With that, there are rules to keep the playing field level. They wouldn't be able to race it with a turbo V8. Sure, they could offer a street version with a 1k HP twin turbo V8, but they don't make and sell enough for that to be worth it. Besides, that would be missing the point of the car. Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. How's your super duty man? IIRC, a white F350 right? Treating you well? |
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The Ford GT is built to race in the endurance series. It's a GTE car. With that, there are rules to keep the playing field level. They wouldn't be able to race it with a turbo V8. Sure, they could offer a street version with a 1k HP twin turbo V8, but they don't make and sell enough for that to be worth it. Besides, that would be missing the point of the car. Power647 hp @ 6,250 rpm (482 kW) Torque550 lb·ft @ 5,900 rpm (746 N·m) A 5.0L V8 with the ecoboost setup cranking out like 850hp, and 750lb ft of torque on a near identical package would be bonkers. Absolutely bonkers. I think, all things being equal, that would be more desirable. If they sold side by side, at the same price, with the same safe-space requirements limited availability? I am of the belief that despite NOT being a specific certain racing league with specific requirements, the faster, more powerful, and better sounding Ford GT with the V8 would sell better. Therefore, making it more desirable. That may upset some people, but I think an 850hp Ford GT with a 5.0 V8 would be awesome, and better than what they built. How's your super duty man? IIRC, a white F350 right? Treating you well? A while ago someone in GD was looking for a heavy duty truck, they ended up with a white F-350 I believe? I wanna say, longbed, a gas engine. Was everything they wanted and nothing they didn't. thought it was sputnik! |
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Wobblin's is pretty ccool - I straight up confused Sputnik's avatar for someone else's. A while ago someone in GD was looking for a heavy duty truck, they ended up with a white F-350 I believe? I wanna say, longbed, a gas engine. Was everything they wanted and nothing they didn't. thought it was sputnik! View Quote BTW, I really like the new Super Duties. They seem to be very well thought out and designed. |
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If you’re talking about the Jeep thingy that serves a completely different purpose. In some areas ATVs can be registered for street use and of course their usefulness off-road. A vehicle that has to be trailered to the track to make a few 1/4 mile passes before being trailed back home is pointless IMO. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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