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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:03:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The British have no concept of electricity or quality control. A fool and his $$$ are soon parted..... Well, nothing about it is British, so.......... |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:03:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would consider that for half the price  No kidding. The classic LaRo was supposed to be simple and stripped. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell me you've never owned a Rover without actually telling me. Inevitably it will suffer numerous problems and be traded off after 3 years for 15-20k, a sure sign of quality. Do yourself a favor- buy a used one, fix it up, then pay to keep it on the road until it pisses you off enough to sell it. You'll save a substantial amount of money doing this and learn the same lesson. Or don't. Rovers out their owners better than almost any other vehicle. ETA: I wish this was an exaggeration. After driving tens of thousands of individual cars...it's not. Tell me more. I've owned three Rover's and a shop that specializes in Rover. I'm sure you know something don't. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:06:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Surprised at all the hate, how's it any difference than all the college girls driving Wranglers
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have heard so many horror stories about Land Rover vehicles it’s insane. Wife wanted one.. nope. The Fast Lane Truck YouTube channel bought a new Defenser huge pile of shit. Back to the dealer after a few hundred miles. I think they eventually had to get a new one. Piles of garbage that people buy to signal they are rich. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:07:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:08:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Fast Lane Truck YouTube channel bought a new Defenser huge pile of shit. Back to the dealer after a few hundred miles. I think they eventually had to get a new one. Piles of garbage that people buy to signal they are rich. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:10:42 PM EDT
[#8]
I bet the check engine light is already on.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:12:29 PM EDT
[#9]
It's a land rover so I hope you buy it for looks and not actually drive
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:14:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Lol. Gay.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the check engine light is already on. CEL is probably broken too.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:15:34 PM EDT
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They needed a dose of "simplification" added to their ideas for the new Defender. I guess they just couldn't help but to spill over some Range Rover tech when the Defender should be at the opposite end of it. They are also using a rebranded Fiat Multiair system to actuate the valves. Former Land Rover/ Jag dealer parts dude.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:16:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryFord needs to make that wheelbase in a two door, I would snap one up. Great color man! |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:17:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:22:29 PM EDT
[#15]
I watched an interesting video years ago where a guy bought a range rover with a bumper to bumper warranty. In six years he had $17,000 of warranty repairs done. What a vehicle.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:25:55 PM EDT
[#16]
I’ll take a Bronco that doesn’t live in the shop
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:28:57 PM EDT
[#17]
No. NO. NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Defenders are utilitarian farm vehicles, not some fancy, luxury status symbol. They are to be slow, muddy, oily and driving on back country roads with a wet dog in the back. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:31:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. NO. NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Defenders are utilitarian farm vehicles, not some fancy, luxury status symbol. They are to be slow, muddy, oily and driving on back country roads with a wet dog in the back. Exactly. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:32:20 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Life is short, I would lease it and not buy it so it's always under warranty You would get to drive it a full 6 months of a 36 month lease.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:34:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:35:34 PM EDT
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I owned 3 Defenders,2 110s and a 90. This is not a Defender.
This was the last time I looked back at the final one.  |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:37:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Oh they look great. I love how they look. Saw a loaded one tonight.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:40:31 PM EDT
[#23]
No solid axle, no care.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 8:57:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Pretty sharp with those tires but it's probably a POS and if I'm spending that kinda coin it's going to be a fun car.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 9:11:54 PM EDT
[#25]
I always wanted one of these joints:
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Posted: 10/15/2021 9:13:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a lot of money to pay just to be angry. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:32:07 PM EDT
[#27]
That’s a Defender?
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:43:20 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you one of those guys who unloads the car ships - or what? Nope, but kinda on the right track. FWIW i haven't driven this rover, just every other (ETA "fake") one, and they're all terrible. Anyone who disagrees is likely a trophy wife who has never dealt with the bills. A real Defender I'm good with, relax purists. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:48:28 PM EDT
[#29]
I am renting a 2007 110 next week for vacation to help the wife get over her Range Rover obsession. It will either work or backfire spectacularly.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:50:25 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They look like trash. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The tail lights don’t go with the vehicle and the gaudy plastics on the front and back look cheap. They look like trash. This I’ve seen a few up close and I can’t stand the ass end of this thing |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:52:59 PM EDT
[#31]
Is it electric?
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:54:14 PM EDT
[#32]
Where are the push handles on the back?
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:55:13 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: land rovers are for people that trade up each year when the new model comes out, or people that really like working on automobiles. Or they research and get the right one the first time.. owned it for 19 years.. 95 D1..  |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:56:02 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would consider that for half the price Just wait two years. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:58:18 PM EDT
[#35]
TFL (see youtube) is on their 3rd one, the first two were broken and the dealer either didnt know how to fix them or couldn't get the parts.
AKA, typical land rover |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 10:59:22 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. the same with the Disco! |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:02:37 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even though their videos are super click-baity, it's worth watching. They really want it to work out too, no one else would polish that turd as hard. I guess one for three ain't bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Go watch the The Fast Lane series on the new Land Rover they bought to test out. I'd buy pretty much anything else before I bought one of those fucking things. Even though their videos are super click-baity, it's worth watching. They really want it to work out too, no one else would polish that turd as hard. I guess one for three ain't bad. JLR gave them a model worth $17k more than the (2nd) broke dick one they bought to try and shut them up, too. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:17:13 PM EDT
[#38]
The unfortunate thing is Land Rover could have capitalized on the market dominated by the wrangler and now Bronco. When the Defender 110 came out in 1993 and defender 90 in 1994, the Wrangler was a shitty leaf sprung POS. The Defender looked better and had superior off road capability. They thought figuring out airbags was just too much trouble for stay in the NAS market so they bailed. In the subsequent years Wranglers became a vehicle that are in high demand and hold crazy resale value like few others. I'd go with a G wagen now myself. I love it when something is so successful and the body, frame and suspension hasn't changed in 20+ years.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:19:37 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, nothing about it is British, so.......... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The British have no concept of electricity or quality control. A fool and his $$$ are soon parted..... Well, nothing about it is British, so.......... Nitra makes all kinds of business sense, but the move alienated what little care for the marque I carried. Still enjoy my Series trucks, and tho I was never a fan of the Defender, JLR finally succeeded in losing me fully.  Attached FileCautiously optimistic, at least construction and visions correct. JLR played this poorly and soon will pay some price. We'll find out how seriously soon. $65k. . .Looks better. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:20:32 PM EDT
[#40]
That is not a Defender. That is a cartoon character rendition of a pussy-ass phagmobile made for traversing the savannahs of BB&Beyond and Target.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:28:21 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nitra makes all kinds of business sense, but the move alienated what little care for the marque I carried. Still enjoy my Series trucks, and tho I was never a fan of the Defender, JLR finally succeeded in losing me fully. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/65FF555F-F780-4135-8481-7DA73092B8C9_jpe-2131767.JPG Cautiously optimistic, at least construction and visions correct. JLR played this poorly and soon will pay some price. We'll find out how seriously soon. $65k. . .Looks better. Thats the one I lust after right now. Hoping I can get one when they release in the states. the overhead switch panel is dope as fuck! I have to say, I finally got to really off road the Disco 1 about a week ago (for a week). I took it places my old Toyota truck would not go. It climbs like a goat in low diff lock. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:29:11 PM EDT
[#42]
oh look, a Ford bronco
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:29:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is not a Defender. That is a cartoon character rendition of a pussy-ass phagmobile made for traversing the savannahs of BB&Beyond and Target. Even more Mall RatedTM than a Jeep! |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:30:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even more Mall RatedTM than a Jeep! 
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:39:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats the one I lust after right now. Hoping I can get one when they release in the states. the overhead switch panel is dope as fuck! I have to say, I finally got to really off road the Disco 1 about a week ago (for a week). I took it places my old Toyota truck would not go. It climbs like a goat in low diff lock. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nitra makes all kinds of business sense, but the move alienated what little care for the marque I carried. Still enjoy my Series trucks, and tho I was never a fan of the Defender, JLR finally succeeded in losing me fully. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/65FF555F-F780-4135-8481-7DA73092B8C9_jpe-2131767.JPG Cautiously optimistic, at least construction and visions correct. JLR played this poorly and soon will pay some price. We'll find out how seriously soon. $65k. . .Looks better. Thats the one I lust after right now. Hoping I can get one when they release in the states. the overhead switch panel is dope as fuck! I have to say, I finally got to really off road the Disco 1 about a week ago (for a week). I took it places my old Toyota truck would not go. It climbs like a goat in low diff lock. I'd buy a reservation sooner than later, then. With a entirely new operation, in this supply chain, I'm not expecting an abundance, or a lack of demand.  Attached FileBest Rovers are the ones that actually get used up, as intended. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:44:05 PM EDT
[#46]
I think its sweet, kinda want.
The bronco is just as cool if not more, and cheaper. The cayenne is a better vehicle then either one at anything besides rock crawling. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:51:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Nothing like giving your money to China.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:52:38 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The unfortunate thing is Land Rover could have capitalized on the market dominated by the wrangler and now Bronco. When the Defender 110 came out in 1993 and defender 90 in 1994, the Wrangler was a shitty leaf sprung POS. The Defender looked better and had superior off road capability. They thought figuring out airbags was just too much trouble for stay in the NAS market so they bailed. In the subsequent years Wranglers became a vehicle that are in high demand and hold crazy resale value like few others. I'd go with a G wagen now myself. I love it when something is so successful and the body, frame and suspension hasn't changed in 20+ years.  Attached FileW463 had a great run from 90-18. Kinda sad to see IFS, and doubt the Gen 2 goes almost 30 without change. I'm not sure it'll go near 30 at all |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:54:43 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprised at all the hate, how's it any difference than all the college girls driving Wranglers This thing has Forest Whittaker eyes |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 11:56:37 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing like giving your money to China. |
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