What exactly do you consider low mileage and where in TX are you?

@dryroasted

Anecdotes mean nothing.

Ford is typically near or above the industry average for reliability.
Land Rover is always at the bottom. The worst for reliability. In a lucky year, Jag or Tesla will be worse, and that is great because it is an atypical year where LR is not at the absolute bottom.

FPNI again!

I just steered my wife away from a used low mileage Land Rover.

I looked up the price of shocks on O’reileys website. Then handed my phone to her. Over $500 each.

Fuck. I just checked the JD Powers and RR is dead last in reliability.

Sure like Jeep is a French/Italian owned company Headquartered in Amsterdam.

JLR ops is centered in Coventry England tho.

Like Jeep in "Toledo", tho Manley and now Meunier office aint there (as Jeep BCEO), as the executive functions are at Auburn Hills.

Want a Brit marque - Ineos. HQs in Knightsbridge tho Ratcliffe controls through tax considered Luxembourg and resides in Monaco.

https://tflcar.com/2020/11/land-rover-defender-broken-update/
Update: We've Owned Our Land Rover Defender For About 3 Weeks, And It's Been Broken Almost The Whole Time

No thanks

My first house cost $76K. Nice little three bedroom.

Curious to what was the first issue or was it minor?

Not looking through all 4 pages, but if it hasn't been posted yet, TFL took theirs on a trail to compete with Wrangler and Bronco...then had to come back later to rescue it.

I'm not the typical customer, since I actually want to off-road a lot, but that thing is shit shaped like an odd square.

If you want lots of mechanical problems and big repair bills, go ahead.  For that kind of money, get a used Land Cruiser and do some modest upgrades.  You could also get a 4runner or Sequoia with lots of money leftover for big upgrades.

Those are really nice, and I'd love to have one. But that's the price of 3 Bronco Sports

i don't know much about their channel, but are those two dudes gay partners? they keep talking about their dog - Blaze

The fact that you're more interested in hacking on them than paying attention to the message tells me that you should ABSOLUTELY buy this Land Rover

My sister has one, she likes it more than her 2021 GX460....

$76k for British engineering?

I'd rather invest the money in Enron stocks.

Coincidentally the exact amount it will cost the second and third owner in repairs the first year they own it.

My old boss had a Discovery. One of the perks Land Rover treats their customers to is being able to store their auto at the dealership in a climate controlled service bay freeing up valuable garage space. It's the little things that make them special.

Couldn’t be father/son could it? Nah. It’s 2021, gotta be a gay couple.

Wife got new defender to go with LR4 we now only have the LR4.  LR4 with Aftermarket 17” wheels on a good Hybrid Terrain are fantastic for most things but rock crawling.  

With a V8 and some changes next year May try again.

Awesome! I would like a discovery!  I have the wheel bearing issue also but it’s nothing detrimental (i guess that was common for our years), still rocking the same air suspension as well. Recently had my entire interior floorboard/headliner replaced via insurance due to parking garage bursting on top of my vehicle and dumping water on top of her for 48hrs... pissed at the time but glad for the fresh & free interior upgrade. I’m using Cooper ZEON tires on stock 19’s, a great all terrain tire with a sweet and soft ride on roads.

Solid vehicles for sure.

The Mil stuff the Danes had were a bit different than the commercial offerings but underpinnings were basically the same.

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You can always tell Danish LW from the rear windowed canopy  and rack.

I've got an old BAOR 109 from the same period.

"Defender" improvement was always evolutionary - more occasional model changes than entirely new vehicles. When the 110 and 90 arrived in '83/'84 they were basically an evolution from Series III Stage I. Hell for 50 years the trucks were named by engineering model and wheelbase.

In '90 Brit Aero got serious about branding and coined Defender. Once BMW got involved in 94, the Defenders became ever more posh - but that basically was additional interior fitments, the underpinnings remained. Like the Beetle, When something remains relatively unchanged for 50 years it develops a following; not necessarily a rational one.

Which is why many - like Ratcliffe - were disappointed then incensed with JLR. So now JLR has a pretty serious competitor - and more true to the uses Rovers have seen than the L663.

W460 Gwagens are awesome - until the unfortunately not uncommon short interval wheel bearing failure happens. Check often and keep bearings on the truck and you'll be fine. But failures horrendous and field replacement sucks.