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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:04:21 PM EDT
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Anyone still sending money to the worthless fucking NRA but not to these organizations who are actually fighting for gun rights needs to square themselves away post haste.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:04:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone still sending money to the worthless fucking NRA but not to these organizations who are actually fighting for gun rights needs to square themselves away post haste. But muh Friends of the NRA banquet is helping |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it reeked of 01911 or whatever his name wa Member notes are the reason I pay for gold membership. I'm impressed that you nailed it with your bronze. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryUff da I'm going straight to hell. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Donating to FPC is money well spent FPNI. That's where most of my 2A financial support goes these days. They are absolutists who take on all comers. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:11:49 PM EDT
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But Does FPC Have A worthless magazine publication.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:12:13 PM EDT
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Added 30
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:13:16 PM EDT
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GOA asking for TRO based on Mock v Garland
 GOA Ask For A TRO Citing The Mock Injunction and FPC Ask The 5th If All FPC Members Are Covered |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But Does FPC Have A worthless magazine publication. I’ll bet they don’t even have a wardrobe budget |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:19:35 PM EDT
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Possible good news for people that live in its jurisdiction. Sadly I live in an area controlled by liberal courts.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:20:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Diet Dr. Pepper tastes more like regular Dr. Pepper Well then they screwed up |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:25:06 PM EDT
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We did this with bumpstocks and it like totally worked out.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:31:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Member notes are the reason I pay for gold membership. I'm impressed that you nailed it with your bronze. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah it reeked of 01911 or whatever his name wa Member notes are the reason I pay for gold membership. I'm impressed that you nailed it with your bronze. I spend way, way too much time here 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:37:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did we crash FPC's site? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/356105/IMG_1632_jpeg-2826782.JPG Rofl |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 6:52:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Ronald Reagan was a 23 year old college student when the NFA was enacted dude. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone still sending money to the worthless fucking NRA but not to these organizations who are actually fighting for gun rights needs to square themselves away post haste. Uh huh, completely useless. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_&_Pistol_Association,_Inc._v._Bruen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_and_Pistol_Association The New York State Rifle & Pistol Association (NYSRPA) is the U.S. state of New York's largest and oldest firearms advocacy organization...It is associated with the National Rifle Association of America ("NRA")... |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At first I had trouble understanding this post, but then I realized you'd changed your username and avatar. The post still makes no sense, but it makes sense that you posted it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. At first I had trouble understanding this post, but then I realized you'd changed your username and avatar. The post still makes no sense, but it makes sense that you posted it. 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:17:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Donating to FPC is money well spent Damn right. Everyone who reads this needs to go donate anything they can afford right now! |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:20:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did we crash FPC's site? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/356105/IMG_1632_jpeg-2826782.JPG Save as... 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:20:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn right. Everyone who reads this needs to go donate anything they can afford right now! Kind of a shame we're only at page 4 of this 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kind of a shame we're only at page 4 of this Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn right. Everyone who reads this needs to go donate anything they can afford right now! Kind of a shame we're only at page 4 of this There’s sports on TV. Most gun owners don’t follow gun rights case updates. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 7:24:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: JFC how many gun rights organizations do I have to join? NRA PAFOA GOA Now WTF is NFC? I think I'm up to two dozen, including state organizations across the country. Here's a handy list in the team forum to get you started! |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:01:55 PM EDT
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Good! In no way is the ATF right to make 40 million citizens felons overnight .
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So a curious question for all those that registered for free and converted from a brace to a stock. If this shit gets kicked out entirely I wonder if those will still be legal? You have no actual tax stamp to prove it. The million $$ question. No one knows. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure it says on the "stamp" that it is Approved With Conditions....then on the last page states that the conditions are tied to the ATF rule. I'm not a lawyer but I read that as that the approval is no longer valid if the rule is thrown out. This is a FUBAR mess they’ve created. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:17:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure you can just put back on the brace and have no issues. Which is what I’ll have to do if this rule gets tossed by the courts. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:18:46 PM EDT
[#30]
If the injunction extends to FPC members, this is going to raise one hell of a war chest.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:20:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Again, I want to thank Trump (and McConnell - blech) for appointing some awesome judges. Good judges are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did we crash FPC's site? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/356105/IMG_1632_jpeg-2826782.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:21:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Dude… Are you drunk? High on crack? Please do some research for just 1 minute prior to writing. It’ll save you time in the long run. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:22:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone still sending money to the worthless fucking NRA but not to these organizations who are actually fighting for gun rights needs to square themselves away post haste. I’m a Life NRA member. And I haven’t given them a damn dime since about 2010. My $$ go to GOA, SAF and now FPC. Fuck WLP and the NRA. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:35:34 PM EDT
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I have monthly recurring donations going to GOA and FPC. I presume that makes me a member of both?
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:36:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a Life NRA member. And I haven’t given them a damn dime since about 2010. My $$ go to GOA, SAF and now FPC. Fuck WLP and the NRA. Same here. Last call I got from them ended when I told them to not call me until FWLP was gone. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 8:37:07 PM EDT
[#37]
$100 to FPC
Come on fellow Arfcom millionaires |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:22:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At first I had trouble understanding this post, but then I realized you'd changed your username and avatar. The post still makes no sense, but it makes sense that you posted it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. At first I had trouble understanding this post, but then I realized you'd changed your username and avatar. The post still makes no sense, but it makes sense that you posted it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:27:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did this with bumpstocks and it like totally worked out. Bless your heart. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:32:00 PM EDT
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I’m trying to plow through all this and I’ve a question for someone in the know.
Wouldn’t the FATF have planned for all this and be ready with legal action of their own to overturn anything that stops this from being implemented? |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:37:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Destroyed mine. Will they issue a refund? 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:37:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Mine is not a SBR or Rifle lower it is an AR pistol lower now what? |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:39:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Not sure if sarcasm or retarded We have Reagan’s NFA. Either Reagan’s NFA means something or it doesn’t. I reckon it means something to y’all’s political representatives because Trump had two years where he could have made the NFA go away. The ATF basically telling manufacturers that a lower is either a SBR lower or a Rifle lower is not the ATF overstepping their authority; it is the ATF properly enforcing Regan’s NFA ( regardless of how we feel about the NFA ). If the 5th says that the ATF is overstepping their authority then the fifth is really saying authority was overstepped in the eighty’s when Reagan signed the NFA. This would be a good thing ! But, The NFA has done nothing wrong with this brace thing and I am not retarded because the NFA does currently exist. Apologize now. Reagans NFA? |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:41:06 PM EDT
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Pretty soon braces and bump stocks will be legal in Tejas.
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Member notes are the reason I pay for gold membership. I'm impressed that you nailed it with your bronze. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah it reeked of 01911 or whatever his name wa Member notes are the reason I pay for gold membership. I'm impressed that you nailed it with your bronze. Do I have any notes? 
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m trying to plow through all this and I’ve a question for someone in the know. Wouldn’t the FATF have planned for all this and be ready with legal action of their own to overturn anything that stops this from being implemented? This is still the beginning of the legal action. This is a temporary emergency injunction probably granted to only the specific plaintiffs. The next step for this case is to actually hear the appeal of the denial of the injunction. Then their are several other cases not even heard yet. This will be resolved in USSC years from now. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:48:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either the NFA is the NFA or it’s not. Strike down the perfectly reasonable ATF judgement on this ( based on existing NFA guidance ) and the NFA is 100% modified to no longer include length ( at least ! ). Which is exactly why they did not amnesty any funny trigger packs or bump stocks. The pistol brace amnesty was about creating a registry for confiscation after they deem fully semiautomatic to be machine guns. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $100 to FPC Come on fellow Arfcom millionaires I took my bottles and cans back and did $30. Its not much but all I had. |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 9:52:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn right. Everyone who reads this needs to go donate anything they can afford right now! I just donated |
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Posted: 5/23/2023 10:00:50 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is what I’ll have to do if this rule gets tossed by the courts. The contingency was only that you were eligible for tax exemption. Your registration is as permanent as any. There is no good reason to think ATF will pull the SBR registrations in any scenario. They'd have to announce another new policy to do it. They like registrations, they're not in the business of un-registering guns. If this gets tossed as unconstitutional there is a good chance SBR registration goes away altogether. |
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