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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:30:53 PM EDT
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You kidding me? I’d love to witness something like this in person Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never had a desire to go there. Now I'm sure there is no desire to go there. An island with your stuck. We're watching the planet being reborn. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 9:52:15 PM EDT
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In the next 2-5 hours a lava flow could cross the coast road 137.
http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/active-alerts |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:07:32 PM EDT
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I'm with you, I think it's pretty amazing. We're watching the planet being reborn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never had a desire to go there. Now I'm sure there is no desire to go there. An island with your stuck. We're watching the planet being reborn. I’d go to see this set of eruptions tomorrow If I could. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:11:16 PM EDT
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Was just looking at pics and video of the late 70’s early 80’s eruption...
I can only hope something like that happens again and is filmed in HD... |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:24:44 PM EDT
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What are the legalities of this eruption? Does one still own his property after mother nature resurfaces your shit? Does the .gov take it from you? Or other?
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:28:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFascinating thread to follow, thank you for your contributions. A few thoughts on the live stream: FO Rooster is back. The sounds are awesome. I want to see a time lapse of the cinder cone forming. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:31:20 PM EDT
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What are the legalities of this eruption? Does one still own his property after mother nature resurfaces your shit? Does the .gov take it from you? Or other? |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:42:31 PM EDT
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Early on in the thread someone said you still owe taxes on the land, but i don't know how that would work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are the legalities of this eruption? Does one still own his property after mother nature resurfaces your shit? Does the .gov take it from you? Or other? |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 10:53:19 PM EDT
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I mean, refuse to pay the taxes and the local government seizes your now useless land? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are the legalities of this eruption? Does one still own his property after mother nature resurfaces your shit? Does the .gov take it from you? Or other? If you want to dig it out, it's still yours. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:15:06 PM EDT
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I mean, refuse to pay the taxes and the local government seizes your now useless land? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What are the legalities of this eruption? Does one still own his property after mother nature resurfaces your shit? Does the .gov take it from you? Or other? |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:19:10 PM EDT
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dutchsinse is live right now.
live daily seismic report It started @ 2204 CT if you want to back up to the beginning. he does HI first. Or wait till he's done and he'll cut the video and post it. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:42:26 PM EDT
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I believe that's essentially what happens. If you want to dig it out, it's still yours. When the lava meets the sea and new land is formed, the new acreage belongs to the state - even if you legal description was from points inland "to the high water line" or whatever. They will estimate the old high water mark and your formerly beach front property is now lava front property. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:44:48 PM EDT
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You kidding me? I'd love to witness something like this in person Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never had a desire to go there. Now I'm sure there is no desire to go there. An island with your stuck. |
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:48:09 PM EDT
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same here. been there 5 times, would love to be there now Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never had a desire to go there. Now I'm sure there is no desire to go there. An island with your stuck. 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:04:25 AM EDT
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Never had a desire to go there. Now I'm sure there is no desire to go there. An island with your stuck. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:04:43 AM EDT
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"UPDATE 5 p.m.
Civil Defense Administrator Talmadge Magno said a man suffered a “serious” leg injury this afternoon when he was “lava-bombed” by spatter while sitting on the porch of a house in an area off Highway 132 below the Lanipuna Garden subdivision. “I heard the injury was quite bad, serious to his leg,” Magno said." |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:06:27 AM EDT
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I'll be there in a few weeks. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never had a desire to go there. Now I'm sure there is no desire to go there. An island with your stuck. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:06:36 AM EDT
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same here. been there 5 times, would love to be there now The telescopes aren't really open to the public as I understand it... so I'd need an insider... or be going to work there... But the volcano... That's public whether you want it to be or not. They're both on the big island... I can't think of anything on the other islands I'd want to see. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:11:03 AM EDT
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. . . It's getting close. another hour or two... maybe 3 if it slows at all. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:11:44 AM EDT
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Stop by the Farmer's Market in Waimea on Saturday. The one at Parker School, not the one at the stables. 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:12:48 AM EDT
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Watching the livestream is kind of mesmerizing.
CSB - My step father lost his house to the early 80's eruption |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:18:28 AM EDT
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Laze (Lave Haze)
Laze is a hydrochloric acid mist formed by the action of lava on seawater. Extreme heat from lava entering the sea rapidly boils and vaporizes seawater, leading to a series of chemical reactions. The boiling and reactions produce a large white plume, locally known as lava haze or laze, which contains a mixture of hydrochloric acid (HCl) and concentrated seawater. Key seawater chloride breakdown reactions that produce HCl gas: MgCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = MgO (periclase) + 2HCl (HCl gas) 2 NaCl (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = Na2O (sodium oxide) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) CaCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = CaO (lime) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:22:09 AM EDT
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Laze (Lave Haze) Laze is a hydrochloric acid mist formed by the action of lava on seawater. Extreme heat from lava entering the sea rapidly boils and vaporizes seawater, leading to a series of chemical reactions. The boiling and reactions produce a large white plume, locally known as lava haze or laze, which contains a mixture of hydrochloric acid (HCl) and concentrated seawater. Key seawater chloride breakdown reactions that produce HCl gas: MgCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = MgO (periclase) + 2HCl (HCl gas) 2 NaCl (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = Na2O (sodium oxide) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) CaCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = CaO (lime) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:27:19 AM EDT
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I'll be there in a few weeks. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. Lava flowing across the ground is THE COOLEST thing I've ever seen in my 51 years on the planet. Find a way to get out there and see it live. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:28:59 AM EDT
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Or wait it out. You still own the GPS coordinates. Bring in some fill and grow grass. When the lava meets the sea and new land is formed, the new acreage belongs to the state - even if you legal description was from points inland "to the high water line" or whatever. They will estimate the old high water mark and your formerly beach front property is now lava front property. Lava front property in Kil-au-ea If you'll buy it, I'll throw the Volcano in free |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:29:05 AM EDT
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Good news.
http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/active-alerts This is a Civil Defense Message for Saturday, May 19 at 6:00 in the evening. Hawaiian Volcano Observatory continues to monitor active flows which have joined together into one flow. The flow is currently in state forest reserve lands and heading in the general direction of MacKenzie State Park. No structures are threatened at this time. Residents should be aware that the lava flow is currently about half a mile from Highway 137 and, at the current rate, may cross the highway within the next five to six hours. Should the lava enter the ocean be aware of the laze hazard and stay away from any ocean plume. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:38:44 AM EDT
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The fast cooling lava also forms volcanic glass which gets pulverized and dispersed in the air. This glass shard dust is very bad for your lungs... Do not breathe it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Laze (Lave Haze) Laze is a hydrochloric acid mist formed by the action of lava on seawater. Extreme heat from lava entering the sea rapidly boils and vaporizes seawater, leading to a series of chemical reactions. The boiling and reactions produce a large white plume, locally known as lava haze or laze, which contains a mixture of hydrochloric acid (HCl) and concentrated seawater. Key seawater chloride breakdown reactions that produce HCl gas: MgCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = MgO (periclase) + 2HCl (HCl gas) 2 NaCl (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = Na2O (sodium oxide) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) CaCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = CaO (lime) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:40:26 AM EDT
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I'll be there in a few weeks. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:44:14 AM EDT
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Laze (Lave Haze) Laze is a hydrochloric acid mist formed by the action of lava on seawater. Extreme heat from lava entering the sea rapidly boils and vaporizes seawater, leading to a series of chemical reactions. The boiling and reactions produce a large white plume, locally known as lava haze or laze, which contains a mixture of hydrochloric acid (HCl) and concentrated seawater. Key seawater chloride breakdown reactions that produce HCl gas: MgCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = MgO (periclase) + 2HCl (HCl gas) 2 NaCl (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = Na2O (sodium oxide) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) CaCl2 (sea salt) + H2O (steam) = CaO (lime) + 2 HCL (HCl gas) |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:53:37 AM EDT
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a bit of bad news.
http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/active-alerts This is a Civil Defense Message for Saturday, May 19 at 6:30 in the evening. Active lava flows have caused brush fires to spread from the flow front toward Kamaili Road. Residents on Kamaili Road need to evacuate the area immediately. County and state fire units are in the area, going door-to-door to make sure people are informed and check if they need assistance. Everyone needs to stay clear of this area. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 2:43:13 AM EDT
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I'll be there in a few weeks. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. I'd carry a couple of tea leaves
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Posted: 5/20/2018 3:20:56 AM EDT
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Take a helicopter tour and talk to the pilot where you can get a nice view from the ground. I'd carry a couple of tea leaves
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.SikX4OacnAQd2GLOCVSpiAHaJQ&w=174&h=218&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll be there in a few weeks. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. I'd carry a couple of tea leaves
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.SikX4OacnAQd2GLOCVSpiAHaJQ&w=174&h=218&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7 |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 3:28:41 AM EDT
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Just a small reminder that no matter how big and bad we puny humans think we are, Planet Earth dgaf  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just a small reminder that no matter how big and bad we puny humans think we are, Planet Earth dgaf |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 3:59:29 AM EDT
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trying to listen to events on this scanner:
https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/28068 But it's real quiet... something's funky with the audio. The Lava might have just crossed 137... or they could be talking about something happening over at 132. I can't tell. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 4:05:24 AM EDT
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just seeing this alert.
http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/active-alerts This is a Civil Defense Message for Saturday, May 19 at 9:00 in the evening. Hawaiian Volcano Observatory continues to monitor active flows. The flow originating from fissure 20 has again split into two lobes, both are currently heading in the general direction of the 13 mile marker on Highway 137. Flow front #1 is approximately 630 meters from Highway 137 and moving about a 100 meters per hour. Flow front #2 is approximately 750 meters from Highway 137 and moving about the same speed. At the current rate, the lava flow may cross the highway within the next five to seven hours. Highway 137 is closed between Kamaili Road and Pohoiki Road. Kamaili Road is closed between Highway 130 and Highway 137 due to a brush fire. Residents in the area have been evacuated. ---- so that's as of an hour ago. could be crossing now. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 4:19:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Take a helicopter tour and talk to the pilot where you can get a nice view from the ground. I'd carry a couple of tea leaves
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.SikX4OacnAQd2GLOCVSpiAHaJQ&w=174&h=218&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7 |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 4:23:04 AM EDT
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Paradise tours has ex mil pilots. The guys with the hula doll. I have no personal experience, but I've seen no opprobrial reviews. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll be there in a few weeks. But I'm guessing we won't be able to get anywhere close to that area. We really wanted to see Kilauea but it'll probably still be closed too. I'd carry a couple of tea leaves
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.SikX4OacnAQd2GLOCVSpiAHaJQ&w=174&h=218&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7 |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 4:35:01 AM EDT
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listening intently to the radio scanner.
The lava has made contact with high way 137 at mile marker 13. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 4:43:38 AM EDT
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at some point the flow split and is crossing at 2 points.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 5:28:32 AM EDT
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I've heard that the highway is cut, the lava has reached the ocean, the NG is telling everyone to GTFO now, and there's traffic jams with people trying to escape. Not sure how much of that is true, though. Supposedly Hawaii Civil Defence is having a live broadcast somewhere.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 5:37:53 AM EDT
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137 is cut. The lava has reached the ocean.
Kamaiki rd was evacuated due to wild fire ignited by the lava flow threatening it. With only 1 road out... 130 which has huge cracks in it covered by steel plates that they're having to monitor to make sure they don't get too hot... Yeah... I'd expect there was or is some traffic. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 5:41:25 AM EDT
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"This is a Civil Defense Message for Saturday, May 19 at 11:00 in the evening.
Hawaiian Volcano Observatory continues to monitor active flows. Flow front #1 has crossed Highway 137 at the 13-mile marker and has entered the ocean. Flow front #2 is approximately 400 M from Highway 137. Highway 137 is closed between Kamaili Road and Pohoiki Road. Kamaili Road is closed between Highway 130 and Highway 137. Residents in the area have been evacuated. All persons are asked to stay out of the area. The lava has entered the ocean. Be aware of the laze hazard and stay away from any ocean plume." |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 6:02:44 AM EDT
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out of date map but the most recent info we have.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 6:09:14 AM EDT
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Watching the feed it sounds like the rain is coming down pretty hard right now.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 7:02:34 AM EDT
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https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/status.html
Magma continues to be supplied to the lower East Rift Zone; however, a GPS instrument near the Lower East Rift Zone is no longer moving suggesting that the rift zone is no longer inflating in this area. Elevated earthquake activity continues, but earthquake locations have not moved farther downrift in the past couple of days. ---- So amateur geologist hat me... The ground isn't inflating... it also isn't deflating... and the flow into the area isn't causing more movement... So I'm taking this to mean Flow Out is equaling Flow In. In other words the current surface vents are allowing enough flow out so the pressure under ground isn't increasing with the addition of new lava. The flow in isn't stopping or else we'd see deflation. It's like you're filling a balloon and a small hole developed in it that is letting air out such that it exactly matches the air you're pumping into it... so the balloon is no longer changing size. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:06:17 AM EDT
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M 4.9 Volcanic Explosion - 5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
Time 2018-05-20 01:58:13 (UTC) Location 19.405N 155.281W Depth 0.0 km |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:20:38 AM EDT
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I wonder if the left has figured out a way to blame this on Trump yet?
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:26:10 AM EDT
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Are there any video feeds of the flow heading into the ocean? Overflights?
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:35:10 AM EDT
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M 4.9 Volcanic Explosion - 5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii Time 2018-05-20 01:58:13 (UTC) Location 19.405N 155.281W Depth 0.0 km |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:53:39 AM EDT
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