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Link Posted: 6/11/2018 11:58:48 AM EST
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Are they already grading roads in/on the fresh lava?
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 12:10:00 PM EST
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My guess that's not a recent flow. The area seems to flat to be recent.
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 12:36:03 PM EST
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This has the pine tar demonstration you were looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZBCvHHUydE
@Master_of_Orion

Starts ~25:00
That flask looks like it was probably blown just for that. I've never seen one like that in catalogs or a lab.

they used Acetone for the gasses, as the simplest ketone, it's quite volatile.
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Yes!  That's it.  Darn unreliable memory.  Thanks a bunch.
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 12:37:58 PM EST
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if you consider 1960 fresh.

That's an old flow.
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 12:38:39 PM EST
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Yesterday Dawn Lava Overflight.

https://vimeo.com/274431794
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 1:37:45 PM EST
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if you consider 1960 fresh.

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I would have expected nearly 60 years to be long enough to have vegetation on it.
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 3:02:54 PM EST
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Hole keeps getting bigger!  camera has not moved.  Widening on the left and left front, and you can see the crack getting bigger across the crater next to the old parking lot, and more slippage on the right.

June 5


June 11
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 8:07:41 PM EST
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From USGS Facebook

Day by day, the summit of Kilauea volcano subsides around  Halema‘uma‘u Crater. This series of images spans June 1 to 10 from our summit wide-angle webcam mounted on the tower of the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory.

Further slumping occurs during every explosive event. Right now, we're calling the larger explosions "Type A".  To be classified as such, our scientists see four distinct geophysical signals: seismic, infrasound, = tilt, and GPS.

Recently, the explosions have been occurring once per day and have been registering as a magnitude 5+ earthquake.  However, they're not typical earthquakes at all - there is no major fault-rupturing event.  Instead, pressure builds up beneath the rubble pile that is choking the conduit and is released as the explosion.

For additional photos and videos visit: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_chronology.html

#volcanoes #usgs #Kilauea #KilaueaErupts #Halemaumau #volcano #KilaueaEruption #SummitEruption
Link Posted: 6/11/2018 10:40:10 PM EST
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Yup!  And it's been pretty clear for the last few hours!  I think it is gonna give us a decent pop soon.. bigger than normal.  There is a significant lack of off gassing right now.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 5:32:05 AM EST
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A series of wide-angle webcam images, captured by a camera in HVO's observation tower (https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_webcams.html) between June 1 and June 10, 2018, show ongoing subsidence around Halema'uma'u at the summit of Klauea in this animated GIF.
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A photogrammetry survey of Klauea's summit by the U.S. Department of Interior Unmanned Aircraft Systems' (UAS) Klauea response team show the topography of Halema'uma'u as of June 8. Cracks through the former overlook parking lot (bottom of image) wrap around the east margin of Halema'uma'u; the once-popular overlook viewing area (closed since 2008 due to volcanic hazards associated with the former summit lava lake) has collapsed into the crater. New faulting and slumping are obvious on the crater's west side (left). The depth of the crater has increased by roughly 250 meters (820 feet) since early May. Limited UAS flights into the summit area are conducted with permission and in coordination with Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park to collect quantitative and qualitative data needed for updated hazard assessments, all of which are shared with emergency managers. Image courtesy of the U.S. Geological Survey and Office of Aviation Services, Department of the Interior, with support from the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory and Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.
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USGS Scientist Shares Kilauea Eruption Update (Jun. 11, 2018)
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 5:47:07 AM EST
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Man that volcano is the gift that keeps on giving.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 3:34:08 PM EST
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yesterday's dawn overflight.
https://vimeo.com/274622430

and another about noon yesterday.

https://vimeo.com/274634785
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 3:44:05 PM EST
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right now it's raining in Leilani Estates and the water hitting the lava is evaporating immediately creating a mini tornado (much like a dust devil)

Link Posted: 6/12/2018 4:19:16 PM EST
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right now it's raining in Leilani Estates and the water hitting the lava is evaporating immediately creating a mini tornado (much like a dust devil)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfhLZarVQAA47zP.jpg:large
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More hair?  Pele’s Hair
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 4:43:45 PM EST
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Excuse me, but isn't that Tommy Chong in the inset? "Hey man, like the volcano is far out, man, you know?"
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 5:00:20 PM EST
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Updates? What's currently happening?
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 5:04:55 PM EST
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Fissure 8 keeps going, dumping into the sea

Kilauea peak caldera is subsiding with the crater inside collapsing multiple times a day.  It builds up pressure and pops 1-2x a day(usually at night) some ash into the air.  Nothing big... yet.

It has been pretty steady like that for about a week now.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 5:08:43 PM EST
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Fissure 8 keeps going, dumping into the sea

Kilauea peak caldera is subsiding with the crater inside collapsing multiple times a day.  It builds up pressure and pops 1-2x a day(usually at night) some ash into the air.  Nothing big... yet.

It has been pretty steady like that for about a week now.
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Thanks
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 6:17:44 PM EST
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Another question from the unwashed segment.  At the summit, and underneath the debris that is falling into the vent/crater, is there an empty space? A void? Does the debris sit right on top of the pool of magma? I think I remember during one of the updates that the depth of vent is on the order of 1000 feet. That would be a pretty large open space.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 6:50:40 PM EST
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Pfft, just turn the valve.   You did put in a valve didn't you?
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Better late than never...

Just make sure that BP, Transocean, or Halliburton have nothing to do with “the valve.” ...
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 7:34:54 PM EST
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Another question from the unwashed segment.  At the summit, and underneath the debris that is falling into the vent/crater, is there an empty space? A void? Does the debris sit right on top of the pool of magma? I think I remember during one of the updates that the depth of vent is on the order of 1000 feet. That would be a pretty large open space.
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@pavil58ar

This is super simplified and I might be wrong in some regards, but this is the gist...

Basically the mama drained out of the upper pipe-works of Kilauea.. and the ground above it is sinking into the voids.  How much drained out, i dont know, but they are saying that the lava coming out at the fissure now is from deep down.  My guess is there is something sitting on top the magma, where it be a plug of cooled magma or collapsed stuff, but it is hot enough that the ground water is heating up and blowing, and that is what is causing the summit eruptions every day.





Link Posted: 6/12/2018 9:00:10 PM EST
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right now it's raining in Leilani Estates and the water hitting the lava is evaporating immediately creating a mini tornado (much like a dust devil)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfhLZarVQAA47zP.jpg:large
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Wow
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 9:50:35 PM EST
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This might give an idea what it looks like under the plugged hole.

This is a lava tube in Kona, HI. Took the pics today.

















Link Posted: 6/12/2018 10:28:24 PM EST
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Lava tubes can be huuuuge!!!
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 10:39:08 PM EST
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Yea, I wonder if any old magma chambers have been explored.

I can only imagine how enormous those are.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 10:43:06 PM EST
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the parking lot.

Link Posted: 6/12/2018 10:48:54 PM EST
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Just found this. Thought it was interesting.

Hawaii Shallow Magma Chamber?

A giant magma chamber burning beneath the Hawaiian Islands is closer to the surface than any other magma chamber yet measured—as little as 1.9 to 2.5 miles (3 to 4 kilometers) below the surface, scientists say.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 10:55:01 PM EST
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Yea, I wonder if any old magma chambers have been explored.

I can only imagine how enormous those are.
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They tend to collapse after the magma vacates... or if the magma cools in place you get things like Wyoming's Devils Tower when the rest of the mountain erodes away from it.

But voids near magma that are filled with water can form cool things in them... like:

Link Posted: 6/12/2018 11:03:32 PM EST
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This might give an idea what it looks like under the plugged hole.

This is a lava tube in Kona, HI. Took the pics today.

https://i.imgur.com/35bAuh7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/w8H53zo.jpg
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Killer bunnies in Hawaii too? Damn it, is no place safe?
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 11:12:25 PM EST
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They tend to collapse after the magma vacates... or if the magma cools in place you get things like Wyoming's Devils Tower when the rest of the mountain erodes away from it.

But voids near magma that are filled with water can form cool things in them... like:

https://i.imgur.com/O5WOsRD.jpg
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Yea, I wonder if any old magma chambers have been explored.

I can only imagine how enormous those are.
They tend to collapse after the magma vacates... or if the magma cools in place you get things like Wyoming's Devils Tower when the rest of the mountain erodes away from it.

But voids near magma that are filled with water can form cool things in them... like:

https://i.imgur.com/O5WOsRD.jpg
Beautiful.

I saw a show about those a long while ago.

Very interesting.
Link Posted: 6/12/2018 11:12:44 PM EST
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Killer bunnies in Hawaii too? Damn it, is no place safe?
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Lol
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:04:32 AM EST
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I just think it's so cool that:
1. Tommy Chong works for the USGS.
2. That he is a geologist,
and;
3. They're letting him do the briefings.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:08:29 AM EST
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They tend to collapse after the magma vacates... or if the magma cools in place you get things like Wyoming's Devils Tower when the rest of the mountain erodes away from it.

But voids near magma that are filled with water can form cool things in them... like:

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What I want is one of those ice pack vests they wore in that cave. I'm pretty sure it was roughly the same environment as Oklahoma on a Wednesday in June in there.

Giant gypsum crystals are cool though.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:12:42 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:14:34 AM EST
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They tend to collapse after the magma vacates... or if the magma cools in place you get things like Wyoming's Devils Tower when the rest of the mountain erodes away from it.

But voids near magma that are filled with water can form cool things in them... like:

https://i.imgur.com/O5WOsRD.jpg
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Yea, I wonder if any old magma chambers have been explored.

I can only imagine how enormous those are.
They tend to collapse after the magma vacates... or if the magma cools in place you get things like Wyoming's Devils Tower when the rest of the mountain erodes away from it.

But voids near magma that are filled with water can form cool things in them... like:

https://i.imgur.com/O5WOsRD.jpg
I remember reading the temp can be high in there.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:30:51 AM EST
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high temp and 100% humidity so your body temp is below the due point... meaning water condenses out of the air inside your lungs.

They had to wear special cooling suits to prevent themselves from drowning just from breathing the air.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:33:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:43:00 AM EST
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high temp and 100% humidity so your body temp is below the due point... meaning water condenses out of the air inside your lungs.

They had to wear special cooling suits to prevent themselves from drowning just from breathing the air.
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I remember reading the temp can be high in there.
high temp and 100% humidity so your body temp is below the due point... meaning water condenses out of the air inside your lungs.

They had to wear special cooling suits to prevent themselves from drowning just from breathing the air.
That's pretty scary.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:48:21 AM EST
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Lucky to make it out alive.

Link Posted: 6/13/2018 12:54:29 AM EST
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That's pretty scary.
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I remember reading the temp can be high in there.
high temp and 100% humidity so your body temp is below the due point... meaning water condenses out of the air inside your lungs.

They had to wear special cooling suits to prevent themselves from drowning just from breathing the air.
That's pretty scary.
No Shit!
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 5:19:06 PM EST
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New summit crater video on FB...  will probably eventually be on YT.

https://www.facebook.com/USGSVolcanoes/videos/2063625153666035/
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 9:33:55 PM EST
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It would be cool if they flew the drone down IN the crater to see the debris and obstruction. I bet they don’t  due to the  loss of frequency

Dailey check-in for updates
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 10:20:57 PM EST
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That looks like the tube on the east side of highway 19, Queen Ka'ahumnau highway. Just north of the airport.
19.765257, -156.02401519.765257, -156.024015

I was there a couple of years ago, truly amazing landscapes.
Link Posted: 6/13/2018 10:25:27 PM EST
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That's pretty scary.
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In Tulsa, we call it,"The weather on Thursday."
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 12:19:00 AM EST
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It would be cool if they flew the drone down IN the crater to see the debris and obstruction. I bet they don’t  due to the  loss of frequency

Dailey check-in for updates
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I'm guessing it's more to do with corrosive steam. Acid gasses, and sulfuric and hydrochoric acid, mostly.
The dense white clouds are probably mostly sulfuric acid and hydrochloric acid, the wispier clouds are just steam. Sulfuric acid forms very opaque clouds when aerosolized. The drones are unlikely to work long exposed to that.

Someone should build the Venus Probe drone model, like on The Six Million Dollar Man show. That would be cool.
Titanium platinum plated blades, teflon coated titanium housings, PETE coated lenses. Sealed innards with inert housings. All gold wiring. Perfluoroalkoxyether lubricants. (Krytox). Silicic aerogel thermal insulation for heat sensitive components. Water tight gaskets, etc, so it could be rinsed of corrosive deposits after a trip into the pit.
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 7:55:56 AM EST
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I'm guessing it's more to do with corrosive steam. Acid gasses, and sulfuric and hydrochoric acid, mostly.
The dense white clouds are probably mostly sulfuric acid and hydrochloric acid, the wispier clouds are just steam. Sulfuric acid forms very opaque clouds when aerosolized. The drones are unlikely to work long exposed to that.

Someone should build the Venus Probe drone model, like on The Six Million Dollar Man show. That would be cool.
Titanium platinum plated blades, teflon coated titanium housings, PETE coated lenses. Sealed innards with inert housings. All gold wiring. Perfluoroalkoxyether lubricants. (Krytox). Silicic aerogel thermal insulation for heat sensitive components. Water tight gaskets, etc, so it could be rinsed of corrosive deposits after a trip into the pit.
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I was really surprised at the repeated flyover videos from that private helicopter company.  I know jets hate volcano plumes, figured everyone would want to keep aircraft away from the area.
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 11:26:37 AM EST
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I was really surprised at the repeated flyover videos from that private helicopter company.  I know jets hate volcano plumes, figured everyone would want to keep aircraft away from the area.
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I think that's mostly ash. The glass melts in the turbines and freezes everything up.
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 4:31:25 PM EST
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yesterday's Dawn overflight.

https://vimeo.com/275027785

They keep posting these late after I go to bed...
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 4:39:52 PM EST
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yesterday's Dawn overflight.

https://vimeo.com/275027785

They keep posting these late after I go to bed...
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Thanks for posting - I've said it before, but it deserves repeating......

You guys have made this one of the most interesting threads on ARFCOM.

Appreciate the time you guys take to help keep us informed.
Link Posted: 6/14/2018 4:44:23 PM EST
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