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Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:43:14 PM EDT
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DH & 2BC can you guys confirm what I believe I already know?

Oral stories of magical phenomenon that isn't talked about outside the tribe?

I've discussed with other Indians, just double checking
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:43:44 PM EDT
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I've discussed with other Indians, just double checking
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We typically discuss such things only amongst ourselves and then, only when it cannot be avoided.

Even my Indian name, I don't share with many outside of my own family.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:51:26 PM EDT
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god damnit

it was suppose to be shart lol

OP's ancestors millions of years ago

NPABTHWWO = not pirkle approved because then he will want one  

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Reported.
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Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:53:02 PM EDT
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Looks like it's popping off in Venezuela.
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Give the biggest dude present the shield and everyone push.

Can you see what's wrong with how the person is holding the shield?
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that little thing is gonna get her shit pushed when they stack and then shes gonna complain
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TPNI

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Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:53:58 PM EDT
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It's a she, for one. Fail. And she hasn't any distance to absorb an impact.
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Give the biggest dude present the shield and everyone push.

Can you see what's wrong with how the person is holding the shield?
It's a she, for one. Fail. And she hasn't any distance to absorb an impact.
Valid observations but not what I was looking for.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:54:26 PM EDT
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god damnit

it was suppose to be shart lol

OP's ancestors millions of years ago

NPABTHWWO = not pirkle approved because then he will want one  

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Reported.
I think they monkeys make skywarp uncomfortable lol

Now where did the monkey touch you ?
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:56:11 PM EDT
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Give the biggest dude present the shield and everyone push.

Can you see what's wrong with how the person is holding the shield?
that little thing is gonna get her shit pushed when they stack and then shes gonna complain.
Well of course, but no.

That riot shield is meant to be used one handed. An arm goes through a strap and then you hold the handle. Shes holding onto both the handle and the strap.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:56:20 PM EDT
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Give the biggest dude present the shield and everyone push.

Can you see what's wrong with how the person is holding the shield?
It's a she, for one. Fail. And she hasn't any distance to absorb an impact.
Valid observations but not what I was looking for.
The camera person is in the way?

You already said the biggest person, which she isn't.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:56:48 PM EDT
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DH & 2BC can you guys confirm what I believe I already know?

Oral stories of magical phenomenon that isn't talked about outside the tribe?

I've discussed with other Indians, just double checking
We typically discuss such things only amongst ourselves and then, only when it cannot be avoided.

Even my Indian name, I don't share with many outside of my own family.
That is my understanding of the culture.

That's also what makes it special.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:56:55 PM EDT
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I think they monkeys make skywarp uncomfortable lol

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god damnit

it was suppose to be shart lol

OP's ancestors millions of years ago

NPABTHWWO = not pirkle approved because then he will want one  

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Reported.
I think they monkeys make skywarp uncomfortable lol

Now where did the monkey touch you ?
His scrotum.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:57:16 PM EDT
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Well of course, but no.

That riot shield is meant to be used one handed. An arm goes through a strap and then you hold the handle. Shes holding onto both the handle and the strap.
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Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:57:41 PM EDT
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The camera person is in the way?

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Give the biggest dude present the shield and everyone push.

Can you see what's wrong with how the person is holding the shield?
It's a she, for one. Fail. And she hasn't any distance to absorb an impact.
Valid observations but not what I was looking for.
The camera person is in the way?

You already said the biggest person, which she isn't.
Check out how she is using her left hand.

You're not supposed to hold onto the soft strap. You put you arm through it and hold the solid handle.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 8:59:16 PM EDT
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Using the shield that way irritates me. We have the same thing instead of a two handled entry/capture shield. You loose some ability to strike with the shield using it that way.
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I think they monkeys make skywarp uncomfortable lol

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god damnit

it was suppose to be shart lol

OP's ancestors millions of years ago

NPABTHWWO = not pirkle approved because then he will want one  

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Reported.
I think they monkeys make skywarp uncomfortable lol

Now where did the monkey touch you ?
It's not that he did, its that he didn't  
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:01:01 PM EDT
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That is my understanding of the culture.

That's also what makes it special.
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DH & 2BC can you guys confirm what I believe I already know?

Oral stories of magical phenomenon that isn't talked about outside the tribe?

I've discussed with other Indians, just double checking
We typically discuss such things only amongst ourselves and then, only when it cannot be avoided.

Even my Indian name, I don't share with many outside of my own family.
That is my understanding of the culture.

That's also what makes it special.
Thank you for the respect shown.  
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:02:03 PM EDT
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Check out how she is using her left hand.

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Give the biggest dude present the shield and everyone push.

Can you see what's wrong with how the person is holding the shield?
It's a she, for one. Fail. And she hasn't any distance to absorb an impact.
Valid observations but not what I was looking for.
The camera person is in the way?

You already said the biggest person, which she isn't.
Check out how she is using her left hand.

You're not supposed to hold onto the soft strap. You put you arm through it and hold the solid handle.
Much like I hold my war shield.
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:03:57 PM EDT
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Next thing you know is BAM dinosaurs with armor.

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Man can be man's worst enemy.

It isn't nice to fool with mother nature.
Next thing you know is BAM dinosaurs with armor.

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Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:09:11 PM EDT
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god damnit

it was suppose to be shart lol

OP's ancestors millions of years ago

NPABTHWWO = not pirkle approved because then he will want one  

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Reported.
I think they monkeys make skywarp uncomfortable lol

Now where did the monkey touch you ?
It's not that he did, its that he didn't  
Hmmmm ( note to self get monkey )

#1  drive around michigan to gun ranges with monkey

#2  leave monkey at range with RSO

#3 come back in hour if RSO is crying either its skywarp and he got touched by a monkey definetly or people asked RSO to take pic;s of monkey shooting Hi point pistol
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:12:38 PM EDT
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DH & 2BC can you guys confirm what I believe I already know?

Oral stories of magical phenomenon that isn't talked about outside the tribe?

I've discussed with other Indians, just double checking
We typically discuss such things only amongst ourselves and then, only when it cannot be avoided.

Even my Indian name, I don't share with many outside of my own family.
That is my understanding of the culture.

That's also what makes it special.
Thank you for the respect shown.  
Respect isn't given, it's earned.

Did some really cool camping trips in Minnesota and Nebraska with Indians. It was a mutual respect. We both loved the peace and quiet, but had different ways of enjoying it.

Some of my favorite memories.

I remember being 13 and going for firewood. The Indian guy I was with commented on the birds. I commented that the snow crunching beneath my feet. We both smiled. We didn't say anything else.
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And now that cartoon intro is stuck in my head

thanks

thanks alot monkey gazer
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:23:20 PM EDT
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And now that cartoon intro is stuck in my head

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thanks alot monkey gazer
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And now that cartoon intro is stuck in my head

thanks

thanks alot monkey gazer
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:25:20 PM EDT
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Respect isn't given, it's earned.

Did some really cool camping trips in Minnesota and Nebraska with Indians. It was a mutual respect. We both loved the peace and quiet, but had different ways of enjoying it.

Some of my favorite memories.

I remember being 13 and going for firewood. The Indian guy I was with commented on the birds. I commented that the snow crunching beneath my feet. We both smiled. We didn't say anything else.
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DH & 2BC can you guys confirm what I believe I already know?

Oral stories of magical phenomenon that isn't talked about outside the tribe?

I've discussed with other Indians, just double checking
We typically discuss such things only amongst ourselves and then, only when it cannot be avoided.

Even my Indian name, I don't share with many outside of my own family.
That is my understanding of the culture.

That's also what makes it special.
Thank you for the respect shown.  
Respect isn't given, it's earned.

Did some really cool camping trips in Minnesota and Nebraska with Indians. It was a mutual respect. We both loved the peace and quiet, but had different ways of enjoying it.

Some of my favorite memories.

I remember being 13 and going for firewood. The Indian guy I was with commented on the birds. I commented that the snow crunching beneath my feet. We both smiled. We didn't say anything else.
That's a great memory. Leave only footprints.

The land never forgets.
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I just wanted to learn to cook, man!
Link Posted: 2/24/2019 9:49:11 PM EDT
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Supposedly there'll be a key in the 'cat tonight. That would be noice.
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Hows the weather?
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Anyone have experience with the .327 Federal? Seems a neat round.
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Hows the weather?
Cold and breezy. ENE @7mph, 28F
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Supposedly there'll be a key in the 'cat tonight. That would be noice.
Hows the weather?
Cold and breezy. ENE @7mph, 28F
Nippy. 50 degrees here right now.
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Anyone have experience with the .327 Federal? Seems a neatcostly, hard to find round.
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Lots of ballistically cool cartridges I don't befun myself with purely because guns without ammo are just awkward clubs.
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Lots of ballistically cool cartridges I don't befun myself with purely because guns without ammo are just awkward clubs.
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Anyone have experience with the .327 Federal? Seems a neatcostly, hard to find round.
Lots of ballistically cool cartridges I don't befun myself with purely because guns without ammo are just awkward clubs.
I know. It never really caught on.
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If you really sit down and ponder, there are no cartridges today that do anything there weren't equivalents for 75 years ago to any great excess. Until there's something besides chemical deflagration propelling a piece of metal down a tube, that's unlikely to change. IMO.
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45-70
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Bullshit the 6.5 Grendel was an all new idea and a master race gun cartridge and nothing else in the world can do what it does from a 3" barrel out to 1000yds.
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Looks like it's popping off on nickmemphis' mouth.
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You can tweek the edges here and there, maybe, but there's no wonderwhiz bangshangalang coming. The 6.5G is basically identical to a .250-3000 downrange.
You can change package shape for convenience and mechanical ease, but you can't really do anything more with hot gasses and metal, without causing other issues that negate the minor performance gain you get. Such as stacks of ammo on a budget.
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The world record distance shot, AFIK, is still held by the 45-70, and is ~150 years old.
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THE SHOOTER at the heavy bench rest squinted as he aligned his .45-70 Allin-Springfield Model 1873 Army rifle on the distant target. The rifle fore-stock and barrel was cradled in a rest; the butt was supported by his shoulder. The rear sight was flipped up to its full height, so with no stock support for his head, the rifle tester from Springfield Armory worked carefully to align high rear and low muzzle sight on the speck that was the target - a surveyed 2,500 yards distant.

Holding his breath, he squeezed the 7-pound trigger. The rifle fired, and some 15 seconds later, signals from the target indicated that his shot had struck well inside the 6-foot diameter bullseye on a target well over a mile away!

The Report of the Secretary of War, 1880, Volume III, under the chapter titled, "Extreme Ranges of Military Small Arms" had this to say:

"The firing was done by Mr. R.T Hare of Springfield Armory who has the enviable distinction, so far as is known, of being the only person in the world who has hit the 'Bull's-Eye' six feet in diameter at 2,500 yards with three different rifles, and who has ever fired at and hit so small a target as that described in this report at 3,200 yards.

In comparison with this, all other so-called 'long range firing' pales into insignificance. The gun was held under the arm, a muzzle rest only being used."

The chapter on long range firing begins with a report from the Armory at Springfield, Massachusetts, May 9, 1879. It records the results of long range tests of U.S. Army Model 1873 .45-caliber rifles using 405 and 500-grain lead bullets, including variations in muzzle velocity and penetration of lead bullets through one-inch target boards and into sand. These tests were made at the request of the Chief of Ordnance. His interest had been aroused by reports of long range infantry fire, up to 1 ½ miles, during the 1877-78 Turko-Russian War.

The lineage of the "trapdoor" rifles used in the tests is apparent from the separate lock plate, the massive side hammer, the milling out of a portion of barrel and fitting a breechblock hinged at the front - all clear indications that the rifles were merely breech-loading variations of the traditional muzzle-loading infantry-man's rifle. The Allin conversion of the 1861 and 1863 models Springfield muzzle-loaders came out first in .58 caliber rimfire. Later refinements resulted in the .50-70 rimmed centerfire for the 1866 model. The .45-70 cartridge was first introduced with the Model 1873 single shot Springfield. Several model changes were made from 1873 through 1889, relatively minor differences being the type of sights, modified and improved breech-blocks and changes in stock furniture.

The first long range tests were made at ranges of up to 1,500 yards on the Springfield Armory test range at Long Meadow, Massachusetts. These tests compared the long distance shooting and penetration performance of the .45 caliber trapdoor Springfield and the .45 caliber Martini-Henry rifles.

The Springfield rifle weighed about 9.6 pounds, had a rifle barrel 33 inches long with a bore diameter of .450-inch, three grooves and a right hand twist and groove depth of .005-inch. It fired the then standard Service round consisting of the 405-grain bullet in the rimmed straight case 2.1 inches long with 70 grains of black powder giving a muzzle velocity (MV) of 1,350 feet-per-second (fps). With the same weight of bullet and a charge of 85 grains of powder, the MV was 1,480 fps.

The British Army .450-577 Martini-Henry lever-operated, drop-block action was far stronger than the Allin trapdoor breech. The Martini-Henry weighed about 9 ½ pounds, had a barrel 33 inches long with a right-hand twist, seven groove bore. The bore diameter was .450, and the groove diameter was .463. The .450-577 Martini-Henry cartridge was a muscular creation. It was based upon a sharply necked-down and lengthened .577-inch Snider case, loaded with a 480-grain lead bullet of .445 diameter, backed by 85 grains of black powder for a muzzle velocity of 1,253 fps.  The accompanying table gives the angles of elevation for these loads from the actual test firings at 1,000 and 1,500 yards. Accuracy firings of the rifles were made at 300, 500, and 1,000 yards.
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Homolyptical Liptons Load Sock Tea
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Gravy eared pointer
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DH & 2BC can you guys confirm what I believe I already know?

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There are many stories passed on from elders. I believe some of them are of the nature you've described. The Hopi Indian tribe has stories you may have seen discussed on the popular television show "Ancient Aliens" for one example.

Being Indian myself and having many Indian friends I can tell you that beyond the creator we haven't discussed any things like you've described.
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I was drinking some tea when I read that
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I've made a bunch of salt flakes.
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Mythical marmalade meatstick
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