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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:08:48 PM EDT
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I had an idea of how to do it, but it would involve making a rail that connected to the lower and let the barrel free float. The use one of those copper custom setups. I decided not to bother. 
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I've never looked into it...does anyone make a quick change barrel system for ARs? That's about the only thing I can think of that would really step up bump saws in the "close enough to a mg" list. I had an idea of how to do it, but it would involve making a rail that connected to the lower and let the barrel free float. The use one of those copper custom setups. I decided not to bother.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/91ACCF16-B2D1-4DD2-B3AD-35615265030C_zpsw9l3zzis.jpg Maybe you were on the right path with the Dolos quick change. I have no hands on with the Dolos quick change system (I've only watched MAC's reviews). Is the hand guard essential for the quick change to take place? If so, what if you either: -somehow added a carry handle / barrel change handle to the existing Dolos hand guard -fabricated new hand guards with the same thread to replace the existing Dolos hand guard Obviously I am way out of my lane on this and my suggestions/questions probably exposed how much I don't know on this issue but I like your ingenuity. 
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:10:54 PM EDT
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Why come you have no left side charger upper?
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:11:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Why come you have no left side charger upper? Proned out, right hand charging is better. I'd have one of those uppers too, but I prefer running light weight BCGs for high rate of fire. |
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:34:33 PM EDT
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Why come you have no left side charger upper? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why come you have no left side charger upper? Because I be left handed yo (and the real m249 charges that side as well )
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What's with the mag release? what mag release ? It's coming in on Tuesday
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Is there a reason for the handguard being so huge, or is it just for the M249 aesthetic? aesthetics for cool as fuckness 
Thanks for the ooohs and ahhs everyone. 
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:37:37 PM EDT
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I had an idea of how to do it, but it would involve making a rail that connected to the lower and let the barrel free float. The use one of those copper custom setups. I decided not to bother.
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I've never looked into it...does anyone make a quick change barrel system for ARs? That's about the only thing I can think of that would really step up bump saws in the "close enough to a mg" list. I had an idea of how to do it, but it would involve making a rail that connected to the lower and let the barrel free float. The use one of those copper custom setups. I decided not to bother.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/91ACCF16-B2D1-4DD2-B3AD-35615265030C_zpsw9l3zzis.jpg This is along the lines of what I was thinking. A monolithic type upper/rail with cutouts to install/remove barrel, similar to the HK11/21/23 series. |
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:50:39 PM EDT
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This is along the lines of what I was thinking. A monolithic type upper/rail with cutouts to install/remove barrel, similar to the HK11/21/23 series. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never looked into it...does anyone make a quick change barrel system for ARs? That's about the only thing I can think of that would really step up bump saws in the "close enough to a mg" list. I had an idea of how to do it, but it would involve making a rail that connected to the lower and let the barrel free float. The use one of those copper custom setups. I decided not to bother.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/91ACCF16-B2D1-4DD2-B3AD-35615265030C_zpsw9l3zzis.jpg This is along the lines of what I was thinking. A monolithic type upper/rail with cutouts to install/remove barrel, similar to the HK11/21/23 series. Getting the gas tube to index would be the major problem with that setup. |
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Posted: 8/14/2016 12:27:45 AM EDT
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Could always just have 2 bumpsaws, so you can use the other while the first one cools off
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Posted: 8/14/2016 4:09:50 AM EDT
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Great job OP... I'm very jealous!
- Clint |
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:13:20 PM EDT
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Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:20:28 PM EDT
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That thing is sick, I want one
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Posted: 8/15/2016 10:29:54 PM EDT
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Bumpsawsmanship is legit.
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Posted: 8/16/2016 11:20:13 AM EDT
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Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you well it looks better than mines...
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Posted: 8/16/2016 11:45:41 AM EDT
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well it looks better than mines...
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you well it looks better than mines...
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint I want to spend money now.. |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 11:53:03 AM EDT
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Patiently waiting on video |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 11:58:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well it looks better than mines... http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you well it looks better than mines... http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint I'm still the OG... All of this because I was digging around through a box of electrical conduits.  |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 12:03:41 PM EDT
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Want
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Posted: 8/16/2016 12:15:43 PM EDT
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this is my 50 yard target, 30 rd dump with a 20" A2
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Posted: 8/16/2016 12:16:08 PM EDT
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I'm still the OG...
All of this because I was digging around through a box of electrical conduits. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Faux-chine%20gun/86DF1ABF-D6AC-47BC-9CF4-61116626C85E_zpspp9xnujc.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you well it looks better than mines...
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint I'm still the OG...
All of this because I was digging around through a box of electrical conduits. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Faux-chine%20gun/86DF1ABF-D6AC-47BC-9CF4-61116626C85E_zpspp9xnujc.jpg Is that the original, Mk0? |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:03:13 PM EDT
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I'm still the OG...
All of this because I was digging around through a box of electrical conduits. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Faux-chine%20gun/86DF1ABF-D6AC-47BC-9CF4-61116626C85E_zpspp9xnujc.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you well it looks better than mines...
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint I'm still the OG...
All of this because I was digging around through a box of electrical conduits. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Faux-chine%20gun/86DF1ABF-D6AC-47BC-9CF4-61116626C85E_zpspp9xnujc.jpg That gun was my inspiration! - Clint |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:04:07 PM EDT
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this is my 50 yard target, 30 rd dump with a 20" A2 http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg415/jm0502/20140706_161014_zpsf1e879b5.jpg Tight like a tiger! - Clint |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:10:11 PM EDT
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Sortofwant.jpg
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:16:01 PM EDT
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Here's mine in action.... the range that I go to has a "10 rounds per mag limit"... that's why I was doing controlled bursts, so they wouldn't come shut me down.
OP's set up is gonna be 9 kinds of awesome when he gets it running! 
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:17:12 PM EDT
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Parts list: $210 - Bear Creek Arsenal side charging upper $55 - m249 flash hider $30 - m249 rubber buttpad $70 - m249 rear sight $40 - m249 top cover $50 - custom build front trunion thingy based off a airsoft m249 frame $30 - m249 front sight $30 - m249 gas block $55 - m249 hand guard $50 - m249 bipod $160 - DTI HBAR chrome lined barrel $65 - V7 Weapons Systems inconel gas tube $120 - SLR adjustable gas block $350 - Fostech DefendAR bumpfire stock $50 - Tapco lower receiver $10 - Tapco SAW grip $100 - MWG 90rd snail mag $90 - Magpul d60 (x3) $250 for the fabrication labor shipped all the way from Alaska So about 2k total with plenty of mags Priceless - Help from AlaskanCajun and his buddy Lu Think that's it Now I need to find a pelican case that will fit it and the drums nicely for easy range transportation. and to look cool as fuck.
some more pics http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc284/cccpNyC/IMG_2805_zpsaj3pdd4q.jpeg http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc284/cccpNyC/IMG_2806_zpsome2zwp3.jpeg http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc284/cccpNyC/BUUMPSAW%20Edit%207_5_zpsi4f72qc1.jpg http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc284/cccpNyC/image_zpsaxc7zmvf.jpeg and @ Bjohnson & Loco, controlled bumpfiring has been shown by others here on arf to be accurate as a real belt fed. 
Plus I saved a few grand off a real one to buy ammo Want |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:18:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2016 3:28:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that the original, Mk0? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Great job OP... I'm very jealous! - Clint You're awesome, couldn't have done it without you well it looks better than mines... http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b487/AlaskaCajun/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspfhojuhm.jpeg - Clint I'm still the OG... All of this because I was digging around through a box of electrical conduits. http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/Faux-chine%20gun/86DF1ABF-D6AC-47BC-9CF4-61116626C85E_zpspp9xnujc.jpg Is that the original, Mk0? Sorta. The first "BumpSAW" as a purpose-built rifle was the one below, but the one above was the first to try and mimic an M249. Another poster used SAW parts but in a dramatically different way than the ones you're seeing in this thread.  |
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Posted: 8/16/2016 6:35:35 PM EDT
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range day tomorrow. I don't have the 7.62x39 firing pin in yet (see this thread
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go pro will be here Thurs to replace my camera that got stolen 2 weeks ago in UT while I was riding thru Zion. 
So you will all get crappy cell phone propped up video of possibly single firing 
j/k shouldn't be that bad, I'll bring some wolf gold and some imi 193 if the tiger don't wanna cooperate If all goes well tomorrow, range day Sunday with the ladies and I'll try to take all the video of them firing it, cuz I know you assholes don't want to see my ugly mug 
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Posted: 8/16/2016 6:58:45 PM EDT
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NO belt feed no care. I dont get it either. SAW means Squad AUTOMATIC Weapon SSAW
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Posted: 8/16/2016 7:08:54 PM EDT
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Consider this an OST
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Posted: 8/17/2016 4:24:56 AM EDT
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Consider this an OST Outer Space Treaty? Am I officially a space shuttle door gunner?
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Posted: 8/17/2016 4:32:56 AM EDT
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Tag.
Really cool!! |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 4:32:07 PM EDT
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I just need to figure out how to bump SAW my SAW.
<a href="http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/highrailjon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg</a> Sploosh -Cheryl |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 4:45:13 PM EDT
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This may sound stupid but maybe you can try something like this?
Just to see if can be done due to the weight. |
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Posted: 8/17/2016 5:11:29 PM EDT
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This may sound stupid but maybe you can try something like this?
Just to see if can be done due to the weight. So I just need to add a 4X4 post with a wooden peg to my kit!
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Posted: 8/29/2016 7:45:48 PM EDT
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I don't want this to get archived!
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Posted: 8/29/2016 7:51:19 PM EDT
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So I just need to add a 4X4 post with a wooden peg to my kit! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound stupid but maybe you can try something like this?
Just to see if can be done due to the weight. So I just need to add a 4X4 post with a wooden peg to my kit! Yes.
Oh come one, the m249s is what? 20 some odd pounds? What's some more weight to lug around (and the clam diggers for the hole, the concrete, etc)? I saw another video where a person just used a wooden peg attached to what looked like a paper towel holder to achieve the same result. I suppose simple wooden dowel would work. Doesn't look as cool as lugging around a 4X4 post with a wooden peg but if it is stupid and it works it is still stupid when it works.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 8:19:33 PM EDT
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I just need to figure out how to bump SAW my SAW.
<a href="http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/highrailjon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg</a> Dude... You HAVE to |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 8:24:14 PM EDT
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I just need to figure out how to bump SAW my SAW.
<a href="http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/highrailjon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg</a> Dude... You HAVE to Or a fostech echo type trigger. Then no need for bumping.
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Posted: 8/30/2016 2:18:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or a fostech echo type trigger. Then no need for bumping. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just need to figure out how to bump SAW my SAW. <a href="http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/highrailjon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg</a> Dude... You HAVE to Or a fostech echo type trigger. Then no need for bumping. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 2:21:35 AM EDT
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Those triggers look neat, but I think they won't be able to replicate the bump fire stock for extended strings of fire. Finger muscles get tired and start to slow down after a while. I can bump my BumpSAW until the ammo is gone one handed and not get too tired. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just need to figure out how to bump SAW my SAW.
<a href="http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/highrailjon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m570/highrailjon/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/5102596C-ADAC-4610-AB67-90F9778E1E2A_zpsgzvdesna.jpg</a> Dude... You HAVE to Or a fostech echo type trigger. Then no need for bumping. Very true. [rant] That being said how pathetic is this that we can to come up with these workarounds when we should be able to but any belted at a gun store the same as any other firearm? [\rant]
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Posted: 8/30/2016 3:24:38 AM EDT
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Too cheap to shell out the $8,000 for a "real" semi M249 from FN?
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Posted: 8/30/2016 3:37:29 AM EDT
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Too cheap to shell out the $8,000 for a "real" semi M249 from FN? Who are you addressing? If your addressing me, I could shell out that for a semi, but without a bump fire stock for it what fun would that be? |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 3:52:46 AM EDT
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Where did you pick up the flash hider/muzzle break? Was it modified to fit your barrel? |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 4:13:16 AM EDT
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Too cheap to shell out the $8,000 for a "real" semi M249 from FN? Variety is the spice of life. No sense limiting yourself to one firearm or another. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 11:03:49 AM EDT
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Where did you pick up the flash hider/muzzle break? Was it modified to fit your barrel? Guy off sturm. Actual m249 fh. Pm me if you want his info. Also got a m249 rear sight I still gotta install from him. Nice guy, shipped fast. Hope the other bumpsawites got in on the goldentiger ammo deal 16cpr for food is cheap
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Posted: 8/30/2016 12:54:20 PM EDT
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Too cheap to shell out the $8,000 for a "real" semi M249 from FN? Yes, I am definitely too cheap for that. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 12:57:46 PM EDT
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Too cheap to shell out the $8,000 for a "real" semi M249 from FN? People not willing to sell the real FN M249 at a price I wish to pay should be thrown in jail. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 12:58:20 PM EDT
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Not what I was expecting but nice non the less.
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Posted: 8/30/2016 1:08:12 PM EDT
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Too cheap to shell out the $8,000 for a "real" semi M249 from FN? People not willing to sell the real FN M249 at a price I wish to pay should be thrown in jail.
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