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Posted: 1/31/2024 10:52:06 PM EDT


?????? @EMPOWR_us has learned through whistleblowers within ATF that at the direction of the White House, ATF has drafted a 1,300 page document to justify a rule effectively banning the private sale of firearms.

The whistleblowers say the rule is being drafted by Senior Policy Counsel Eric Epstein, who worked as the Phoenix Field Office's Division Counsel during Operation Wide Received (a precursor of Operation Fast and Furious).
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I'm curious as to how they'd actually execute it. If it's really 1,300 pages; they've put together serious thought into this, but...

I just don't know.

Perhaps it's being drafted to be held "in abeyance" awaiting the next mass shooting, for maximum effect?


Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:54:26 PM EDT
[#1]
FATF

try passing a law
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:55:02 PM EDT
[#2]
Fuck ATF. Fuck Joe Biden.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:55:57 PM EDT
[#3]
The only new laws should come from Congress
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:56:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Good luck enforcing that one, ATF.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:56:10 PM EDT
[#5]
I will continue to build and give away ARs. Fuck them.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:56:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Just goes to show those within the ATF are willfully involved in trying to usurp the constitution with their "loophole" rules.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:57:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Oh, no

Anyway
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:58:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

I can't see how they can just declare it illegal.

I'd love to see what their angle is on this.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:58:14 PM EDT
[#9]
I have nothing COC to say.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:58:20 PM EDT
[#10]
I imagine this has been in the works for decades,

In hundreds of different forms, and different shit bag leaders.

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:58:21 PM EDT
[#11]
They been trying.

Registration and then confiscation usually come next
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:59:33 PM EDT
[#12]
My prediction:

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 10:59:34 PM EDT
[#13]
lol

how will they preemptively know….
4473s sure, but what those are sold FTF?



fuck off ATF
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:00:06 PM EDT
[#14]
With all the tumescent FBI cocks they suck at hotel gloryholes, it’s surprising the ATFags get any work done.

I hope they all get GRIDS.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:00:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:00:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Can't have freedom flow freely now, can we. We must find a way to put a stop to people thinking they can exercise their God-given Constitutional rights.

Always
Trample
Freedom


Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:00:55 PM EDT
[#17]
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Fuck Chevron

SCOTUS should rule on Chevron this year? Correct?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:00:59 PM EDT
[#18]
The ATF is a terrorist organization.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:01:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Lol . Fuck you .
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:02:18 PM EDT
[#20]
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The only new laws should comply with the Constitution, but a bunch of crackheads think growing wheat for your own use is interstate commerce.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:02:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Then at the direction of the administration they are shutting down dealers to limit your options even more .
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:03:12 PM EDT
[#22]
It's all so tiresome.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:03:16 PM EDT
[#23]
They can suck my balls.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:03:25 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:03:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Ha.  That cat is soooooooo far out of the bag.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:03:58 PM EDT
[#26]
The whistleblowers say the rule is being drafted by Senior Policy Counsel Eric Epstein, who worked as the Phoenix Field Office's Division Counsel during Operation Wide Received (a precursor of Operation Fast and Furious).
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Any relation?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:04:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:04:22 PM EDT
[#28]
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Fuck Chevron

SCOTUS should rule on Chevron this year? Correct?
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The only new laws should come from Congress


Fuck Chevron

SCOTUS should rule on Chevron this year? Correct?

That’s my understanding
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:05:23 PM EDT
[#29]
This is what failing looks like.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:06:37 PM EDT
[#30]
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This shouldn't surprise anyone
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Can you expand on that?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:07:20 PM EDT
[#31]
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Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

I can't see how they can just declare it illegal.

I'd love to see what their angle is on this.
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Muh feelz!
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:07:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Lol, good luck.  Not a private sale but an undocumented transfer of property.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:08:29 PM EDT
[#33]
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The only new laws should comply with the Constitution, but a bunch of crackheads think growing wheat for your own use is interstate commerce.
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The only new laws should come from Congress

The only new laws should comply with the Constitution, but a bunch of crackheads think growing wheat for your own use is interstate commerce.

I’ll take Congress making laws over giving all of these agencies free rein to interpret statutes any way they see fit with little to no oversight.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:10:45 PM EDT
[#34]
No
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:13:01 PM EDT
[#35]
Fuck them. Make us Outlaws. I don't care anymore and gun sales will continue hand to hand cash or money order
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:13:13 PM EDT
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FATF

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Why pass a law? Orange Julius, or the next Puppeteer, will just do it by executive fiat. Take the guns first, due process second.

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:13:57 PM EDT
[#37]
They'll never know where every gun is, even though they desperately want to.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:15:29 PM EDT
[#38]
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Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

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I'd love to see what their angle is on this.
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They don't need it, they know it probably won't stick. But at this point they've realized that they can draft laws & policies funded by our tax dollars, force us to use our own dollars to fight it in court, defended in court by lawyers funded by our tax dollars. They have nothing to lose by doing this, and we have everything to lose.

Weaponized government needs to be given actual consequences by the courts and congress before this will stop.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:16:19 PM EDT
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The ATF entire federal government is a terrorist organization.
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Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:17:34 PM EDT
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I will continue to build and give away ARs. Fuck them.
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Yep.
They're mine. I'll do as I please with them.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:18:18 PM EDT
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Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

I can't see how they can just declare it illegal.

I'd love to see what their angle is on this.
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An FBI manufactured stooge will buy a gun private sale from an FBI agent and commit a mass shooting.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:19:08 PM EDT
[#42]
This belongs in the barking news section
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:19:13 PM EDT
[#43]
Lolol. Good luck with that.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:19:33 PM EDT
[#44]
It will be difficult to enforce.....
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:23:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Sounds like BS. The faggots at the ATF can’t manage to get rid of braces, zero chance they can do a damn thing about private sales.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:26:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Fuck the ATF......
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:29:09 PM EDT
[#47]
FATF! They didn’t learn from braces that their opinion isn’t law.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:33:11 PM EDT
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Any relation?
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By blood? Doubtful. Does he molest children? Probably.




$500

Each pair comes with a free gun!

Dumb fucks. If it takes 1300 pages to justify it, it's not worth so much toilet paper.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:33:53 PM EDT
[#49]
I call BS, A 1300 page justification doc would spell instant failure as any legal challenges would then require a number of people to read the entire document.

But hey, it's gotta be true if it's on the internet right?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:35:01 PM EDT
[#50]
We’re already getting that in MI so fuck.
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