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Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:36:53 PM EDT
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Eat dick
@FATF
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:37:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:37:49 PM EDT
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That'll really show the criminals...who don't follow a lot of the other laws already passed.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:38:16 PM EDT
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Thank God. Now Damariobro will have do a background check on LaBrontanius when he sells his Glock 9 with a switch. Thus ending all gun violence across the nation.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:38:25 PM EDT
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@osprey21

Let’s compare notes, my plan is 1301 pages.

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:39:30 PM EDT
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The only new laws should come from Congress
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Congress doesn't have the power to pass a law to this effect either.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:39:52 PM EDT
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By blood? Doubtful. Does he molest children? Probably.


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61LzzrjRxWL._AC_UY780_.jpg

$500

Each pair comes with a free gun!

Dumb fucks. If it takes 1300 pages to justify it, it's not worth so much toilet paper.
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Any relation?

By blood? Doubtful. Does he molest children? Probably.


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61LzzrjRxWL._AC_UY780_.jpg

$500

Each pair comes with a free gun!

Dumb fucks. If it takes 1300 pages to justify it, it's not worth so much toilet paper.


What kind of an American are you?

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:40:08 PM EDT
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Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

I can't see how they can just declare it illegal.

I'd love to see what their angle is on this.
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They don’t need one,


Fed and states have already made metal tubes, and other assorted metal and plastic pieces illegal with various arbitrary distinctions.

Not to mention, the box with a spring that’s illegal in several states.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:42:29 PM EDT
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I will continue to build and give away ARs. Fuck them.
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You give them an AR as a gift

They give you $500 as a gift

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!




Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:43:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Eat a buffet of dicks.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:44:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Well obviously that will stop all the criminals with guns and "mass shoters"  because those guys always obey the laws.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:47:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:48:30 PM EDT
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Well obviously that will stop all the criminals with guns and "mass shoters"  because those guys always obey the laws.
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Lol you think they care about any of that?
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:48:55 PM EDT
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They can fuck right off. What I do with my private property is my business.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:50:10 PM EDT
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Lol you think they care about any of that?
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Sarcasm
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:55:14 PM EDT
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thank God i don't have to read any mean tweets.
Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:55:45 PM EDT
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Oh, no

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dumbest thing you could ever say

Yeah, your gonna ignore this law just like you ignore the machinegun ban right.  

ANYBODY who just acts like this is not a huge deal has either an inability to grasp reality or is to busy planning video games to pay attention to what is going on right now

unfuckinbelievablystupid

Link Posted: 1/31/2024 11:59:15 PM EDT
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Privates sales have a long "text, history and tradition" going back before the founding.

Any rule prohibiting that should get an injunction immediately.

The left is just playing games wasting resources at this point.  Make rules and pass laws they know won't stand, just to tie up gun rights in court and use taxpayer funds to deplete the coffers of gun rights organizations fighting this bullshit.

There should be criminal penalties for passing bad laws.  Politicians should be afraid to pass any laws at all, for fear of it being ruled unconstitutional.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:00:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:01:17 AM EDT
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dumbest thing you could ever say

Yeah, your gonna ignore this law just like you ignore the machinegun ban right.  

ANYBODY who just acts like this is not a huge deal has either an inability to grasp reality or is to busy planning video games to pay attention to what is going on right now

unfuckinbelievablystupid

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I thought ATF 1811’s needed a masters in English?
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:04:39 AM EDT
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dumbest thing you could ever say

Yeah, your gonna ignore this law just like you ignore the machinegun ban right.  

ANYBODY who just acts like this is not a huge deal has either an inability to grasp reality or is to busy planning video games to pay attention to what is going on right now

unfuckinbelievablystupid

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Cool story, fed

Anyway
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:05:25 AM EDT
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It's been coming, and I don't see how it can be stopped.

Tell people "you can resell your car to anybody, who knows if their license is real or they have insurance", they tell you yes of course that's fine, tell people you did the same with a rifle and their brains melt.

The same people who "support closing the gun show loophole" will tell you they think it should be fine to sell your neighbor your old rifle or give your daughter in law a handgun for Christmas.

Sneaky language can sell anything to anybody it seems.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:05:45 AM EDT
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I'm doing my part.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:06:45 AM EDT
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I will continue to build and give away ARs. Fuck them.
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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:13:50 AM EDT
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I’ll take Congress making laws over giving all of these agencies free rein to interpret statutes any way they see fit with little to no oversight.
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Wait till the Trump cult gets FJB reelected with a Democrat majority in both chambers.  Supreme Court will get expanded by 2 justices and the Constitution will mean whatever the Democrats want it to mean.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:15:14 AM EDT
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It's been coming, and I don't see how it can be stopped.

Tell people "you can resell your car to anybody, who knows if their license is real or they have insurance", they tell you yes of course that's fine, tell people you did the same with a rifle and their brains melt.

The same people who "support closing the gun show loophole" will tell you they think it should be fine to sell your neighbor your old rifle or give your daughter in law a handgun for Christmas.

Sneaky language can sell anything to anybody it seems.
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Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:16:27 AM EDT
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I will continue to build and give away ARs. Fuck them.
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:16:49 AM EDT
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Not sure what that means?
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:18:40 AM EDT
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God I hope that movie isn't terrible. It's the meme equivalent of the vault on Oak Island.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:19:16 AM EDT
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1300 pages?

TLDR, fuck you, I'll do what I want.

Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:21:48 AM EDT
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The only new laws should can come from Congress
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FIFY
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:35:25 AM EDT
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They been trying.

Registration and then confiscation usually come next
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Registration is not happening without a law from Congress.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:36:22 AM EDT
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An FBI manufactured stooge will buy a gun private sale from an FBI agent and commit a mass shooting.
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Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

I can't see how they can just declare it illegal.

I'd love to see what their angle is on this.



An FBI manufactured stooge will buy a gun private sale from an FBI agent and commit a mass shooting.

That will provide political capital to push for a law but it doesn't make a law in and of itself.

Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:37:15 AM EDT
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Registration is not happening without a law from Congress.
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And even then not in WY
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:37:33 AM EDT
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we already have a defacto registration. don't FFLs/gun stores have to keep records of receipts/bill of sales?
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:38:09 AM EDT
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They don’t need one,


Fed and states have already made metal tubes, and other assorted metal and plastic pieces illegal with various arbitrary distinctions.

Not to mention, the box with a spring that’s illegal in several states.
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Where is the legal justification? Even their abuses of the law usually have some pretense of an excuse.

I can't see how they can just declare it illegal.

I'd love to see what their angle is on this.

They don’t need one,


Fed and states have already made metal tubes, and other assorted metal and plastic pieces illegal with various arbitrary distinctions.

Not to mention, the box with a spring that’s illegal in several states.


They those  items are illegal because they use the NFA act of 1934.
The say the tube is a silencer, etc.

What law on the books allows them to ban all private sales ? Be hard I think.

Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:39:37 AM EDT
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And even then not in WY
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Registration is not happening without a law from Congress.

And even then not in WY

Well we might not comply that's another matter.

Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:41:48 AM EDT
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Nobody gives a rats ass about ATF “rules”.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:42:08 AM EDT
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we already have a defacto registration. don't FFLs/gun stores have to keep records of receipts/bill of sales?
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Registration is not happening without a law from Congress.


we already have a defacto registration. don't FFLs/gun stores have to keep records of receipts/bill of sales?

That is not registration as long as you can sell privately or gift them. Or even destroy them.

Registration ties you to that gun. Like the items under the NFA.

It's obviously a precursor and mechanism for eventual registration but it isn't quite it yet.

I mean some people might buy all their guns privately. No paper on them and they're completely legal. For now.

Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:50:13 AM EDT
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They already did.  Safer Communities Act, 2022.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:51:48 AM EDT
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Hopefully the SC overturns chevron.

(I know, putting faith I courts…)
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:53:41 AM EDT
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This is the problem when govt spends your money on a fight they know they can’t win in the courts.


Doesn’t cost them a fucking thing.  We pay both sides lawyers.  

No consequences for obviously BS or unconstitutional laws being passed by anyone.  No wonder they keep trying shit.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:55:15 AM EDT
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If we're talking "shoulds", the bigger issue is the whole second amendment thing should be obeyed.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:55:55 AM EDT
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That would be beautiful.

I think they'll rule in our favor but likely a very  limited scope.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:58:06 AM EDT
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In most states, including yours I believe, private citizens can sell their guns to each other like any other property.

The ability to engage in those paperless transactions prevents 4473s from functioning as a backdoor registration.

The atf, iirc, is legally not supposed to create any digitally searchable database. The banning of private sales functions as a backdoor method of making 4473s defacto registration.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 12:58:35 AM EDT
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Good luck enforcing that one, ATF.
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By default, everything already in circulation would be not worth the hassle. However, everything post -infringement could be easily enforced. Automatic self fulfilling grandfather clause, and we all know that only pussies push for or are ok with grandfather clauses.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:00:05 AM EDT
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You know, a representative government is only as good as its citizens.  I, for one, will give the ATF's rules the same respect I showed to the 1994 AWB.
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try passing a law
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We need to end them.  The entire agency.  Shut it down.
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Sure they do.  Just like the courts can strike it down.  Who'll do what isn't for certain.
Link Posted: 2/1/2024 1:02:59 AM EDT
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There was a period in our recent history where the federal government banned the private sale of beverage alcohol.
My study of the matter indicates that Alcohol consumption increased significantly.
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