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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:12:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:14:22 AM EDT
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I will deploy my rifleman's hawk from cold steel if I am down to stabby stuff.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:15:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: As the US spirals into a bad 1980s post apocalyptic movie have gunbros been too quick to abandon the bayonet? Used to be in the 70s and 80s every young dope had an m7 bayonet (although I've heard people who were actually in the military thought they were junk). Now I think with the m4 you either need a sbr or that weird extra long bayonet (can you still buy that?).? I'm not sure I own-er I meant owned-an AR that would accept a standard bayonet. Plus the newer big Bowie knife bayonets cost over $ 100+ and don't seem to be laying around in piles in army surplus stores. You can get something sensible like an esee or Becker for that kind of money. I don't even know what the difference between the m 9 and 10 are (is there a difference?). I'm not sure I've seen one of the newer bayonets outside of a gun show. Have we been too quick to abandon the bayonet now that we're all going to be hiding in our cellars with our 590s pointed up the stairs at the door to the kitchen as we hear crashing, banging, and shouts of "I found a copy of the Dukes Of Hazzard" and the sound of footfalls coming our way? Fucking rambo and shit, I dont care about bayonets and bowie knifes |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:20:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking rambo and shit, I dont care about bayonets and bowie knifes |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:38:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: ...have gunbros been too quick to abandon the bayonet?  Used to be in the 70s and 80s every young dope had an m7 bayonet (although I've heard people who were actually in the military thought they were junk). M7 is a fine bayonet, and it features full-tang construction (unlike the later US models). Now I think with the m4 you either need a sbr or that weird extra long bayonet (can you still buy that?).?  Haven't seen long-handled bayonets in a while, but you can get a lug adapter for about $30. https://www.triple-r-products.com/product-comparisons.html I'm not sure I own-er I meant owned-an AR that would accept a standard bayonet. Plus the newer big Bowie knife bayonets cost over $ 100+ and don't seem to be laying around in piles in army surplus stores. You can get something sensible like an esee or Becker for that kind of money. I don't even know what the difference between the m 9 and 10 are (is there a difference?). I'm not sure I've seen one of the newer bayonets outside of a gun show. In military parlance M10 refers to a plastic scabbard for the M7 bayonet (which also fits earlier bayonets or anything based on the M3 knife from WWII). You won't be able to quickly herd all the surrendering prisoners into holding areas with a fancy pocket knife. 
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:41:58 AM EDT
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I forgot m10 was the sheath. So the Ontario m10 is what? V an m9?
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the Ontario m10 is what? V an m9? |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:50:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 3:52:34 AM EDT
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The M9 fits my pinned and welded 14.5 M4 barrel perfectly.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 4:13:11 AM EDT
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First rule: Dispatch the enemy at great distance by means that do not involve you (air/artillery strike).
Now, if you think it behooves you to be prepared for the time when things get close and sporty having something pointy on your main personal weapon could come in useful. IF. My, that's a big if! If, you know how to use it, the bayonet might save you. If you don't know how to use one and you are not willing to put a bunch of time into learning how to use a long gun so equipped, just practice reloading efficiently, and invest in magazines. Some observations: I started in the Marine Corps with an M14. I think an M14 (or and M1) with an bayonet is a usable last ditch tool (see First Rule above). After I was issued an M16 I just never thought the bayonet would be much use (as a bayonet). Too light and awkward. You had to let go of the pistol grip and grab the stock to get a buttstroke (upward or forward). Also the M16 stock was slick (sweaty or wet hands) and not designed for a good grip. I know the Marines after my time that started with the M16 have no problem with it. It just never felt right to me. Like boxing, aggressiveness and combinations increase your chances of winning. If needs be, by a feint with the blade you can get your opponent to bob, weave or duck into your followup upward buttstroke. If that has failed to put him down, you are in perfect position for a forward buttstroke. CAUTION, when your rifle is over your shoulder, your guts are undefended. DO NOT just go pokey-pokey. If you do, you WILL come to regret it and wish you'd spent your money on ammo and mags instead. Pugil stick training is useful. You will learn what not to do and if you are the sort, it will put you in the right frame of mind. There is a book you might find interesting. Cold Steel by John Styers Fairbairn is worth reading. Closing with the enemy and destroying him is a Marine thing. All well and good. Getting close enough to stick 'em is always a coin toss. Doing so intentionally is a good way to get more than your feelings hurt. First Rule, learn it, love it, live it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 4:25:37 AM EDT
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Anyone make an mlok bayonet lug?
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Posted: 6/29/2020 4:29:36 AM EDT
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 I dont think many, if any, know how to fight with a bayonet attached to their rifle. The marines might still teach it, but I dont think anyone else does.Eta: ok, one guy here does. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 4:31:38 AM EDT
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OKC-3S?
I still need to buy one either for my M16A4 clone or my M4A1 clone. Or I suppose in proper ARFCOM fashion, get one for both. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 4:32:02 AM EDT
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People should learn the riddle of steel in high school.....
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Posted: 6/29/2020 4:34:00 AM EDT
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I doubt any of us will actually get off the couch, so non issue.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 5:39:27 AM EDT
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Bayonets are great for maintaining social distancing.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 5:42:05 AM EDT
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does walmart sell bayonets?
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:01:23 AM EDT
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US Rifle, caliber .30, with bayonet M1903.
Problem solved. Problem staying solved. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:04:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:07:29 AM EDT
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I have to have a bayonet on my Ny legal mosin.
With only five rounds for the deer allowed by uncle Andy, you need a back plan. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:08:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: US Rifle, caliber .30, with bayonet M1903. Problem solved. Problem staying solved. Aww. I can only muster Caliber .30, M1903A3, with Bayonet M1. Need to get the appropriate bayonet for my M1917...there's some "social distancing" for you. Might be a little awkward though. 
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:13:15 AM EDT
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I still got my A4 with A2 furniture with carry handle/irons and an old school sling, also have an M9 and M7 bayonet.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:18:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:18:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aww. I can only muster Caliber .30, M1903A3, with Bayonet M1. Need to get the appropriate bayonet for my M1917...there's some "social distancing" for you. Might be a little awkward though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: US Rifle, caliber .30, with bayonet M1903. Problem solved. Problem staying solved. Aww. I can only muster Caliber .30, M1903A3, with Bayonet M1. Need to get the appropriate bayonet for my M1917...there's some "social distancing" for you. Might be a little awkward though. Put those bayonets on and see how much it changes your point of impact.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:23:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Put those bayonets on and see how much it changes your point of impact. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: US Rifle, caliber .30, with bayonet M1903. Problem solved. Problem staying solved. Aww. I can only muster Caliber .30, M1903A3, with Bayonet M1. Need to get the appropriate bayonet for my M1917...there's some "social distancing" for you. Might be a little awkward though. Put those bayonets on and see how much it changes your point of impact. Did that at the 50yd line I think it was, a bunch of years ago. I don't remember how much shift there was or which way, but I do remember there was enough to notice. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:38:32 AM EDT
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IMHO a bayonet on a shotgun makes a lot more sense than say on a AR or AK. The same way they made sense on more limited capacity arms like MLs, single shots, bolt actions, and Garands.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:41:03 AM EDT
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I've got an m9 Ontario on a 590
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:53:30 AM EDT
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I just wrote an article on that
http://www.thenewrifleman.com/your-rifle-needs-a-bayonet/ Clickety Clack, get the fuck back  |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:55:02 AM EDT
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Few men die by steel, but all men fear steel. It's a tool of intimidation and fear, and those can be powerful allies.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 7:58:58 AM EDT
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This is why Jesus gave us halberds.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:09:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont think many, if any, know how to fight with a bayonet attached to their rifle. The marines might still teach it, but I dont think anyone else does.Eta: ok, one guy here does. I figure someone breaks into a house, then puts their weight against the bedroom door, a bayonet behind shoved through it might change their intentions. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:11:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Few men die by steel, but all men fear steel. It's a tool of intimidation and fear, and those can be powerful allies. It means do or die. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:12:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I figure someone breaks into a house, then puts their weight against the bedroom door, a bayonet behind shoved through it might change their intentions. While shouting "Here's Johnny" as you poke it through.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:17:08 AM EDT
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Best place to buy?
Had one years ago, no idea what happened to it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:20:59 AM EDT
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I thought you were more of a hatchet man?
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:31:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: I dont think many, if any, know how to fight with a bayonet attached to their rifle. The marines might still teach it, but I dont think anyone else does.Eta: ok, one guy here does. Still part of Boot camp training and the USMC Martial Arts Program MCMAP. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 8:50:05 AM EDT
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What makes the green grass grow...
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:02:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:07:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone make an mlok bayonet lug? Sounds like a great way to jack up a handguard. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:07:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont think many, if any, know how to fight with a bayonet attached to their rifle. The marines might still teach it, but I dont think anyone else does.Eta: ok, one guy here does. Army did back in 2005, no idea if they still do. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:08:19 AM EDT
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Bayonets are fun to collect.
I got couple of M7s are ready to be used. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:10:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:13:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still part of Boot camp training and the USMC Martial Arts Program MCMAP. Yep. Remember it well. |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:14:29 AM EDT
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20 inch barreled AR and bayonet.....
Everyone should have at least one in the household armory. Another tool in the tool box....... |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:14:53 AM EDT
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I don't recall bayonets being used in Red Dawn.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:15:42 AM EDT
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Is there a picatinny QD bayonet attachment? Cause there should be if there aint.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:15:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought you were more of a FIFY |
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:16:54 AM EDT
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I really like the one that came with the Mosin Nagant rifle. Looks like a really long flat heat screwdriver.
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Posted: 6/29/2020 9:21:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2020 11:05:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They do break though. Quote HistoryI have spares. |
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