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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:51:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:03:53 AM EDT
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I don't mind them other than slow, noisy, too hot, too cold
toilets now better- have a sheet to cover ya not too bad unless ya pack em full with stuff and peeps...we usually only put 20-30 people max so not too bad. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:10:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySomebody's not watching the radar altimeter.  It's been 7 years, but as I recall min alt. on those drops is 150. Best job I had on Hercs.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:22:14 AM EDT
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amazing what you can do when you focus on the requirements of the mission and not the ego of the drivers.
I know, cheap shot, but its true. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:46:31 AM EDT
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One of the greatest successes of aviation design. Amen! 
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:49:31 AM EDT
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One of the greatest successes of aviation design. Amen! I remember in the mid 1990's when the Herk surpassed the most sorties flown ever, off ALL military aircraft combined. Lockheed had a kick ass poster and we had one in Maint Control..should have snagged it. Had some kick ass facts.. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:51:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: amazing what you can do when you focus on the requirements of the mission and not the ego of the drivers. I know, cheap shot, but its true. Different era. "Build us an acft that can do x, y, and z. We don't care what it looks like." Also, less politics involved back then IMHO. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:07:00 AM EDT
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I love the Herc!
My last ride was on one carrying a load of ammo from Panama (pre-invasion) to Tegucigalpa during the "Contra War" in the 80's. Some SAT Herc's were parked at the airfield when we arrived. Reminded me of the old Air America days when I was in VN. 
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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:23:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: amazing what you can do when you focus on the requirements of the mission and not the ego of the drivers. I know, cheap shot, but its true. One could also say the B707 and similar -135 type is successful for the same reasons. The ego comment? Yes, cheap shot and GD Derp. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 6:13:17 AM EDT
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Different era. "Build us an acft that can do x, y, and z. We don't care what it looks like." Also, less politics involved back then IMHO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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amazing what you can do when you focus on the requirements of the mission and not the ego of the drivers. I know, cheap shot, but its true. Different era. "Build us an acft that can do x, y, and z. We don't care what it looks like." Also, less politics involved back then IMHO. And we were buying enough planes that it didn't have to be a joint endeavor that was designed to be a gunship, spec-ops support, electronic warfare, tanker, that has to be able to hover and land on a carrier. It was just a truck. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 6:23:49 AM EDT
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AFAIK it never went beyond being a concept. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even though I was a baby during Desert Storm, I remember Hercs flying over my house real low about every 90 seconds or so. It was like a damn earthquake This was at Mitchell. Now is it just me or could easily consider the Herc being the "AR-15" of planes (zillion options)? I think the only configuration I haven't seen is amphibious Prototype mock up or actual production? either thats too cool Yes i know the picture is a model AFAIK it never went beyond being a concept. Who needs amphibious when you have air craft carriers? . I’ve read about the aircraft carrier testing, and after numerous landings and takeoffs, they determined that even though the plane was perfectly capable they decided that the wing clearance was too risky, it had less than 3 feet of clearance from the tower. One of my highlights of being in the Army was sitting on the flight deck of an Omani C130 with British RAF crew, flying through the “Omani Grand Canyon” on final approach to Khasab air base. |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 6:24:51 AM EDT
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<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/PhotoTWB/media/Avation/10380567_10203148019492865_6727020980686302979_o_zpsef197a4f.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/PhotoTWB/Avation/10380567_10203148019492865_6727020980686302979_o_zpsef197a4f.jpg</a> WEEEEEEEEEEE! |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 7:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's been 7 years, but as I recall min alt. on those drops is 150. Quote HistoryQuoted: It's been 7 years, but as I recall min alt. on those drops is 150. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 8:03:13 AM EDT
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Think about it this way the ground must be at least 150 dead ahead off his nose so he is good.
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It's been 7 years, but as I recall min alt. on those drops is 150.
Think about it this way the ground must be at least 150 dead ahead off his nose so he is good.
Plus it's probably written as 150 above ground level, not 150 above tree level.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 12:08:22 PM EDT
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I've got a couple USMC VMGR-352 KC-130s passing through my area right now. One is being flown by the CO.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 5:21:33 AM EDT
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A friend at Lockheed pointed out to me that for the aircraft carrier landings: It landed without a tail hook and took off without a catapult.
Damn! Just damn! And FWIW: "The LM-100J, the new commercial variant of the C-130J Super Hercules, will be touching down on dirt strips or short runways starting around 2017." |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 7:48:07 AM EDT
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Happy 60th! 
The H models I shed blood, sweat, & tears over almost 30 years ago are now over 40 years young, and have at least 10 more years in them. I have not seen them since fall '85, but I will be going to Great Falls tomorrow to check on the 8 that just got assigned there. If Christine (74-2063) is there, I'll probably shed a tear or two. We was Best Buds for over two years. She never done Me wrong. As faithful and loyal as the best dog You've ever had! Thanks to all Who have maintained these near perfect machines. Oh, and I guess the Flight Crews also...
The (Grateful and Proud) Ol' Crew Chief
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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:19:03 AM EDT
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A friend at Lockheed pointed out to me that for the aircraft carrier landings: It landed without a tail hook and took off without a catapult. Damn! Just damn! And FWIW: "The LM-100J, the new commercial variant of the C-130J Super Hercules, will be touching down on dirt strips or short runways starting around 2017." There are a few aircraft that were produced that there is just no replacement for, and as the older ones wear out, operators get in a pickle. This is one of those birds. The commercial market doesn't need a lot of them, but they do need them. (And it doesn't help that L-100's get bought up by foreign militaries that can't get clearance from the US Gov to buy C-130's...) |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:22:21 AM EDT
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If you want to see what a possible C-130 replacement will look like, take a peek at the Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, CA on Google Earth. An interesting white, C-130-size twin jet aircraft with a strange looking wing and a long test instrumentation on the nose is parked outside on the ramp.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:13:14 PM EDT
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If you want to see what a possible C-130 replacement will look like, take a peek at the Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, CA on Google Earth. An interesting white, C-130-size twin jet aircraft with a strange looking wing and a long test instrumentation on the nose is parked outside on the ramp. Not really, X-55 |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:19:18 PM EDT
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Full gear = packed in like sardines in a can. Low level on airdrops at Bragg or Benning in the middle of summer sucked for you guys as well. 
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Me in one of the few Hollywood jumps I ever did. The rest were all combat equipment, night for the most part. The C-130 is one of the most uncomfortable birds to get stuffed into with full combat equipment, rigged for jumping...absolutely brutal. http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/3-325AIR_0008_zps55719c60.jpg Full gear = packed in like sardines in a can. Low level on airdrops at Bragg or Benning in the middle of summer sucked for you guys as well.
Jumpmasters had to walk across our Large rucksacks since there was nowhere else to go. I still don't understand how we all fit in there. The 50lb parachute packs make it so you can't really sit on the seat comfortably, then you have your ruck attached upside down to the harness, with guys facing each other. The reserve parachute makes it so you can't pull the ruck close to you to make room for your buddy. If you're claustrophobic, airborne would be hell in the sky. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:31:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want to see what a possible C-130 replacement will look like, take a peek at the Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, CA on Google Earth. An interesting white, C-130-size twin jet aircraft with a strange looking wing and a long test instrumentation on the nose is parked outside on the ramp. Google Boeing YC-14 and McDonnell Douglas YC-15. You might notice some similarities between the YC-14 and the C-17. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:38:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see probably 10 flights a day at least by the bulky birds. I live a couple of miles down range of Little Rock AFB, and they keep the 130's humming day and night out here. When I was a lifeguard at our Boyscout ranch, they would use our parade field as a practice drop zone from time to time. They would be coming in low and slow with the back doors open and you could make out facial features as they waved. |
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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:41:53 PM EDT
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Google Boeing YC-14 and McDonnell Douglas YC-15. You might notice some similarities between the YC-15 14 and the C-17. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want to see what a possible C-130 replacement will look like, take a peek at the Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, CA on Google Earth. An interesting white, C-130-size twin jet aircraft with a strange looking wing and a long test instrumentation on the nose is parked outside on the ramp. Google Boeing YC-14 and McDonnell Douglas YC-15. You might notice some similarities between the YC-15 14 and the C-17. FIFY. 
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Posted: 8/23/2014 10:08:41 PM EDT
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I've got a couple USMC VMGR-352 KC-130s passing through my area right now. One is being flown by the CO. Raiders! 
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Posted: 8/23/2014 10:16:46 PM EDT
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I did a USO tour of Alaska in '76. Spent quite a few hours as a "passenger" (cargo?) on C-130s. Sigh. Those were fun days.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:14:13 AM EDT
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Watching LAPES drops was fun.
I understand the practice is discontinued. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:30:54 AM EDT
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Watching LAPES drops was fun. I understand the practice is discontinued. Yeah, there were a few mishaps/crashes/deaths along the way. Its a very dynamic event. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:48:22 AM EDT
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biden came to visit malloy
 and two C-130J Super dropped off their motorcade crap off at Westchester Airport
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:46:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:40:57 AM EDT
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Not really, X-55 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want to see what a possible C-130 replacement will look like, take a peek at the Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, CA on Google Earth. An interesting white, C-130-size twin jet aircraft with a strange looking wing and a long test instrumentation on the nose is parked outside on the ramp. Not really, X-55 My money is on seeing the concept of the composite fuselage construction scaled up to a C-130J sized technology demonstrator before it's over. I've seen some Lockheed photos of the X-55 with the YC-14's above the wing, blown airfoil engine location. Certainly something that could be a glimpse at the future direction of tactical air transport. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:45:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:49:27 AM EDT
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I lived near Fort Devens in Massachusetts as a kid in the early 1970's. I remember counting many in a row coming out and turning around by the nearby mountain they used as a landmark for turning, before multiple parachutes would be popping out the back.
I think sometimes there would be 12-13 in a row flying over. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:54:42 AM EDT
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Spent almost my entire life listening to C-130's overhead. grew up right next to an ANG base that is home to these.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 11:05:19 AM EDT
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<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/PhotoTWB/media/Avation/ov10c130_zps778091ca.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/PhotoTWB/Avation/ov10c130_zps778091ca.jpg</a> Love that OV-10, too. The Philippine Air Force still has 10 flying, one of which laid down the law with a JDAM and killed an Abu Sayyuf commander a couple of years ago.  (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/165819/philippines-using-us-smart-bombs)
One of my PAF buds got to take this shot from the flight deck. That's the Mayon volcano in southern Luzon. Last time I saw it, it was erupting: 
Unfortunately, the PAF only has 3 C-130s left. 2 H models, and one B. There was an announcement a while back about 2 T models being delivered in 2015, courtesy of Uncle Sugar. IIRC, Fat Albert is a T model. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 4:07:25 PM EDT
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The Philippine Air Force still has 10 flying, one of which laid down the law with a JDAM and killed an Abu Sayyuf commander a couple of years ago. (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/165819/philippines-using-us-smart-bombs)
One of my PAF buds got to take this shot from the flight deck. That's the Mayon volcano in southern Luzon. Last time I saw it, it was erupting: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=67951 Unfortunately, the PAF only has 3 C-130s left. 2 H models, and one B. There was an announcement a while back about 2 T models being delivered in 2015, courtesy of Uncle Sugar. IIRC, Fat Albert is a T model. Correct. They are getting two KC-130Ts from VMGR-234 which is going to J models. Should happen in September if the diplomats finish the paperwork. Fat Albert is a USNR C-130T. Buno 164763. TYCOM |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 4:14:23 PM EDT
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First A/C I ever puked in. A German AF jet jock was flying it on some USAF exchange program. He gave a whole new meaning to "low level".
First, and last, A/C I jumped from. Lots of different ones in between but always a soft spot for the Herc. Most fun to jumpmaster in IMHO as well. Loved doing door checks and full hangs from them, just a super A/C. Govliquidation.com had some fuselages for sale as scrap not long ago. Really thought hard about pulling the trigger on one. Hauling costs would be a bear, but sure would be the ultimate momento for a broken down old paratrooper! |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 4:16:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWinddummy: Was your bn S3 a guy by the name of Mark Lewis during Grenada? He was my BC later. He talked about your BC and the Co Cdr that got killed. He knew them both and really liked them. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 4:21:11 PM EDT
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The only airplane to make me air sick. A tree top flight and a combat short landing in full MOP gear. It was hot and stuffy. We all got sick.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 4:56:24 PM EDT
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/19/after-60-years-c-130-still-magnificent-machine/ ATLANTA – Tim Nguyen regards the C-130 “Hercules” as a “good friend.” The 60-year-old military aircraft has been the focus of his professional career, and quite possibly saved his life. During the 1975 Fall of Saigon, Nguyen -- then serving in the South Vietnamese air force -- escaped on the last C-130 out of Vietnam. During a lull in enemy fire, he emerged from a bunker at Tan Son Nhut Air Base to see the last flyable C-130 stopping and going on the taxiway. The aircraft’s rear ramp was still open, apparently weighed down by the crowd of people standing on it. “Every time (the pilot) jammed on the brake, it pushed the passengers forward,” Nguyen recalled. “It created more space in the back… So, I jumped in. Everybody jumped in. And a few minutes after that, the ramp door closed and we taxied out and departed.” The plane landed safely at a U.S. air base in Thailand. Nguyen said the American soldiers there were visibly surprised as they watched 452 people disembark from a single plane. Isn't that exact plane on display at Dobbins? LC |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 5:16:18 PM EDT
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Ask the Lockheed Marietta Flight Engineer Instructor Frat that meets on the first Tuesday of every month
"Who/whom is the man?" The ones that flew for Eddie Rickenbacker, met with Kelly Johnson, have nothing to prove... will respond, "Louis Snyder is Mr. C-130." Louis Snyder will be 95 this 18OCT14. He's still walking and talking and ate a huge bowl of my first ever attempt at Leg of Lamb with Provencal White Beans, tonight. Looked almost like the pic: 
Get a hold of Jim Cambell FE (retired) for scoop all the way up to and including the design of the FE-less J Model. FYI, Dad never called Kelly Johnson, Kelly, ever. He called him Clarence in private and always Mr. Johnson in public. Dad was Chief Flight Engineer on the L-1649 project at the Skunk Works at the time. |
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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:13:38 PM EDT
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I've got a couple USMC VMGR-352 KC-130s passing through my area right now. One is being flown by the CO. Raiders! http://www.aviationgraphic.com/382-624-thickbox/kc-130j-super-hercules-vmgr-352-the-raiders-jp-1344.jpg The CO was flying 166765. 168067 was the other, Raider-18. |
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Posted: 8/25/2014 6:28:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that exact plane on display at Dobbins? LC Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/19/after-60-years-c-130-still-magnificent-machine/ ATLANTA – Tim Nguyen regards the C-130 "Hercules” as a "good friend.” The 60-year-old military aircraft has been the focus of his professional career, and quite possibly saved his life. During the 1975 Fall of Saigon, Nguyen -- then serving in the South Vietnamese air force -- escaped on the last C-130 out of Vietnam. During a lull in enemy fire, he emerged from a bunker at Tan Son Nhut Air Base to see the last flyable C-130 stopping and going on the taxiway. The aircraft’s rear ramp was still open, apparently weighed down by the crowd of people standing on it. "Every time (the pilot) jammed on the brake, it pushed the passengers forward,” Nguyen recalled. "It created more space in the back… So, I jumped in. Everybody jumped in. And a few minutes after that, the ramp door closed and we taxied out and departed.” The plane landed safely at a U.S. air base in Thailand. Nguyen said the American soldiers there were visibly surprised as they watched 452 people disembark from a single plane. Isn't that exact plane on display at Dobbins? LC |
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