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Now we're whining that I'm not posting in a thread?  lol

I've made it pretty clear I think Roy Moore is a fucking lunatic - and that was before it came out he enjoyed touching little girls.

The voters in Alabama (of which I am not one anymore) had a choice of two other conservative, non-crazy / non-pedophile Republican candidates...and instead they chose Moore.  Stupid should hurt.

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How do you think Moore's election will "hurt"?  

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How do you think Moore's election will "hurt"?  

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Pedophile allegations aside - Moore is 10 pounds of "Everything wrong with the GOP" shoved into a 5-pound sack.  You don't think after he wins the media will stick a microphone in front of his face and ask him questions about every social issue under the Sun every chance they get?  Does anyone doubt he won't give the most inflammatory, ridiculous, overtly-bigoted answers to those questions?  The guy will be fodder for DNC attack ads and media hit pieces forever.  They will do their best to make Moore the public face of the GOP.  Good luck if you're a GOPer trying to run in a purple district in 2018 trying to explain Moore introducing his "George Wallace 'Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorr-uh, Segregation Fore-evah' Education Reform Act of 2017" into the Senate...

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Pedophile allegations aside - (snip)

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Pedophile allegations aside - Moore is 10 pounds of "Everything wrong with the GOP" shoved into a 5-pound sack.  You don't think after he wins the media will stick a microphone in front of his face and ask him questions about every social issue under the Sun every chance they get?  Does anyone doubt he won't give the most inflammatory, ridiculous, overtly-bigoted answers to those questions?  The guy will be fodder for DNC attack ads and media hit pieces forever.  They will do their best to make Moore the public face of the GOP.  Good luck if you're a GOPer trying to run in a purple district in 2018 trying to explain Moore introducing his "George Wallace 'Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorr-uh, Segregation Fore-evah' Education Reform Act of 2017" into the Senate...

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Moore has a lot of baggage, but people like McConnell are what's wrong with the GOP. Moore being a pain in McConnell's ass is enough for me to vote for him.

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In my opinion the issues with Moore are far more than "baggage".

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In my opinion the issues with Moore are far more than "baggage".

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The allegations against him aren't convincing to me. So aside from what is already known about Moore - Bible thumper, shady non-profit, removed from ALSC bench - what is there?

What's he going to do? Make Alabama a laughing stock?  If it weren't for college football and Wernher Von Braun Alabama would be a mirror image of Mississippi.

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Don’t forget world-class medical and research facilities at both UAB and UAH.  AU is a extremely well regarded engineering and agricultural school.  A lot of hard core science goes down here and Huntsville is an epicenter onto itself for tech innovation.

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Why Roy Moore's accusers stayed silent for so long

At the outset of the #MeToo movement an extended family member privately shared her experience of sexual assault with me. She was a young woman when she was raped - just like the eight women who have accused Roy Moore of sexual misconduct. But there is another reason why my relative, and Moore's accusers have been silent until now - Southern culture.

Silencing is a common tactic use by perpetrators of childhood sexual violence; many survivors of sexual trauma remain silent out of shame and fear. They are justified in doing so. For children, the threat of further harm is very real and perpetrators depend on secrecy. Even for adults, victim-blaming, stigma and re-traumatization may accompany disclosure. In Southern culture, the norm of the 'good girl' combined with the adage of 'speak when you are spoken to' closes the door on information sharing. It also affirms the lie that perpetrators often tell their victims:  they will not be believed.

Other elements of the traditional Southern Belle archetype also play a role.  Southern women, and especially girls, are expected to be as "sweet as pie" and genteel to boot. There is, after all, an entire magazine dedicated to Southern Living and hospitality. It simply wouldn't be polite by Southern standards to out sexual assailants. Instead Moore's behavior has been an open secret and the fodder for small town rumor mills. While some have attempted to discredit Moore's victims, they would not have come forth without prompting from members of the media.

In doing so they, like others before them, have faced negative repercussions. Scarlett O'Hara, the South's most famous and complicated heroine bucked tradition with her vanity, selfishness and, some would say, early feminism. Yet she ultimately paid the price for her ambitions when after confessing her love to Rhett Butler he famously rejected her, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." As in the Global South, American women face the prospect of speaking out and being punished.

Without a doubt, not all Southern women are the same. Roy Moore's wife, Kayla has stood by her man perpetuating the dominant narrative about Southern women; meanwhile his accusers have boldly broken step and in doing so challenged the status quo. Some might say that my views and the actions of Moore's accusers are atypical - and perhaps even an affront to what it means to be Southern. But the truth is I was born in the deep South and have lived in the South for most of my life. I wholeheartedly reject the coded language of "Southern heritage" but that doesn't mean I'm not Southern. For good or for bad, I have been subject to the same cultural norms and ultimately I am a Southern woman.

But what it means to be a Southerner is changing. It means speaking out and being heard. It means putting an end to predation and the abuse of power. And it means listening - and voting - like we give a damn.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/11/why_roy_moores_accusers_stayed.html#incart_river_home

Now they have resorted to insulting Southern women.

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Moore is going to be alienated in the Senate.

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By alienated I mean any legislation he tries to introduce will not have any co-authors or co-sponsors and the GOP leadership will assign him to the Senate Subcommittee on Repainting the Basement Hallways of Bases Selected for Reduction Under BRAC

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Fair enough.  I happen to find the victims that were interviewed in the initial WaPo reporting credible.  What little benefit of the doubt I was willing to give Moore evaporated after his disastrous interview with Hannity.

My concern is less about what Moore is going to do to Alabama and more what happens to the GOP when Moore is turned into the national face of the party by the Media and the DNC.

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The allegations against him aren't convincing to me. So aside from what is already known about Moore - Bible thumper, shady non-profit, removed from ALSC bench - what is there?

What's he going to do? Make Alabama a laughing stock?  If it weren't for college football and Wernher Von Braun Alabama would be a mirror image of Mississippi.

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Pedophile allegations aside - (snip)

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How do you think Moore's election will "hurt"?  

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I don't watch or listen to that blowhard Hannity. He's the Rachel Maddow of the right.

Moore is going to be alienated in the Senate. He won't have enough friends in the Senate to become the face of the party even with the MSM and DNC's slant. At the end of the day Moore will be another shitty politician from a deep red or blue state.  He'll inevitably say some stupid shit that MSNBC will replay and the closet Marxists will share on Twitter and Facebook the same way people here post videos of Shelia Jackson Lee, Pelosi, Kamala Harris, or the .30 Caliber CLip Ghost Gun guy in California. #ohwell

Democrats want to see this seat flip just to try to say it is some type of indicator about Trump. Anyone paying attention to the primary saw Moore, Strange, and Brooks basically compete as who was the most pro-Trump of the three. Trump won AL by like 30 points. This special election isn't a referendum on Trump regardless of the outcome.

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State and Ole Miss have very solid academic programs too, but that is expected at research universities like MSU, Ole Miss, UAB, Auburn, UAH, or UAT.

Huntsville today wouldn't be Huntsville if Von Braun and his team did their work at Aberdeen Proving Grounds or somewhere else instead of Redstone. Hell, Decatur was bigger than Huntsville until Von Braun and his team moved to Huntsville from White Sands MR.

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I still don’t see how any of that reflects negatively on Alabama. Frankly, it makes it a pretty cool place to be.

So what’s wrong with AL outside of the fact that you clearly don’t like the state?

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Pedophile allegations aside - Moore is 10 pounds of "Everything wrong with the GOP" shoved into a 5-pound sack.  You don't think after he wins the media will stick a microphone in front of his face and ask him questions about every social issue under the Sun every chance they get?  Does anyone doubt he won't give the most inflammatory, ridiculous, overtly-bigoted answers to those questions?  The guy will be fodder for DNC attack ads and media hit pieces forever.  They will do their best to make Moore the public face of the GOP.  Good luck if you're a GOPer trying to run in a purple district in 2018 trying to explain Moore introducing his "George Wallace 'Segregation Now, Segregation Tomorr-uh, Segregation Fore-evah' Education Reform Act of 2017" into the Senate...

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Sort of like Franken and Conyers?   I guess these CHAMPION of Women on the left are more 'forgivable' against HARD evidence, more so, than Moore is with specious evidence.

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So was Roy Moore until 1992.

I'm not exactly sure what to make of the fact that your major problem with George Wallace was his party identification and not, you know, the overt racism thing.

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How do you think Moore's election will "hurt"?