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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:12:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an accident. Plain and simple. Sucks. Same thing happened to Brandon Lee on the set of the Crow. Wonder if there is enough to change with manslaughter. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:12:59 PM EDT
[#2]
He shouldn't play with guns. If it saves just one life.
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:13:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well well well….anti gun douche shoots and kills someone with a gun. Huh. Kind of ironic that he has more kills now than 99.99% of lawful gun owners. 
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:14:48 PM EDT
[#4]
He is anti gun charge him
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/03/05/alec-baldwin-time-rethink-second-amendment/ |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:14:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish we had 2 other threads on this. Oh wait we do. We really need an Alec Baldwin shoots people subforum. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:15:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Red October...
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:16:03 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Baldwin is on a killing spree today. Too bad somebody didn't return fire on his nut sack with a .454 Casull up in his panties. I can't stand that guy! 
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:19:11 PM EDT
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Maybe he'll be so distraught that he'll actually suck a bullet out the barrel of a "real gun"
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:20:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A google search shows a not small amount of blank firearm deaths in the film industry. Happens more than it should. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alec Baldwin was filming a scene for a movie that required someone to fire a gun loaded with blanks, but when the gun discharged either shrapnel or a bullet hit 2 people on set ... one of whom had to be airlifted to a hospital. This already sounds like they are whitewashing the whole thing. “Someone”.. Maybe it wasn’t one of the bigest douchebags on the planet that killed her. I’d like to believe this wouldn’t actually happen in 2021, considering how many times something like this happened before in the land of make believe. 
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:23:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an accident. Plain and simple. Sucks. Same thing happened to Brandon Lee on the set of the Crow. I doubt the script called for pointing a gun at the director |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:24:45 PM EDT
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Read up on how Brandon Lee died sometime. Short version: The producers / directors decided they didn't need the extra expense of the firearms expert on site, so they fired him. Without him cleaning the guns, counting how many blanks went in each gun, how many dummy loads were recovered (Case, Bullet, dead primer and no powder), some of the chambers got a little dirty. One 44 mag revolver; they had filmed it being loaded with dummy rounds, but in ejecting the rounds, due to fouling in the cylinder, a bullet pulled out of the case and remained in the cylinder. At a later scene, with blanks loaded in the gun, the actor fired directly at Brandon Lee. I can't remember if he died on scene or at the hospital.
Actors are typically given a prop, told what to do, and they perform. There's supposed to be a responsible person handing out the prop guns, making sure there's nothing for the blank charge to push out the barrel, ect. I'm willing to bet this isn't something Baldwin owns at all, unless he was the one acting as the expert in this case. I don't like Baldwin, but I kind of doubt he is to blame here. Will wait for better details. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:25:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Hope her family sues him for everything he's got...
Let them eat their own!!! |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:27:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Wait. I thought he was anti-gun?
Why would he be holding one? |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:36:28 PM EDT
[#15]
How hippo critical of him
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:42:36 PM EDT
[#16]
Alec Baldwin's prop gun has killed more people than any of mine
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:44:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He'll blame the prop department and sleep easy. Without knowing more details, he SHOULD blame the prop department. These days who the fuck supplies a prop gun capable of killing somebody? I thought those days were in the past. I was under the impression they pretty much used airsoft type stuff anymore. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:46:05 PM EDT
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Now there's going to be a eulogy at the end of the movie and hopefully Alec says something about how guns must be banned
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:50:56 PM EDT
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I'm assuming movie blank guns have barrels that allow gases to exit the muzzle. It would give a more realistic image.I had a full auto 92r "replica" blank gun and the barrel was solid. There were two small port holes drilled near the end of the chamber to allow the gases to escape at a 45 degree angle from the top of the gun. It was cool, 9mm blanks are pricey when it's 15 rds in a couple seconds.
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:51:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Isn't this dude a big Anti-Gun Chote to begin with Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Charge him with some sort of negligent homicide. Fuck Alec Baldwin. Until using a gun makes them money! |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:54:01 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Without knowing more details, he SHOULD blame the prop department. These days who the fuck supplies a prop gun capable of killing somebody? I thought those days were in the past. I was under the impression they pretty much used airsoft type stuff anymore. From what I understand, if it has to be pointed at someone, they use a rubber gun. If it fires blanks, it's filmed offset to ensure there isn't someone down range. Blanks are still be dangerous. From what I'm reading around the net this involved him grabbing a blank gun not rubber gun, used for the scene and neglecting to check if it's loaded then pointing and firing it at a people on set. Looks like several rules were broken. Several people should spend time a little further down highway 14 (state prison) for this, including Baldwin. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:55:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Alec Baldwin has killed more people than my AR15 has.
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:56:06 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So 2 injuries from a single round, or did this guy crank off two rounds from a single action revolver? And another actor getting hit would make more sense, rather than a writer and director, but I guess they could be in the line of fire based on the scene. Just seems weird, besides the tragedy Alec Munden. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:56:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an accident. Plain and simple. Sucks. Same thing happened to Brandon Lee on the set of the Crow. False. It was an accident. It was negligence by someone. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:56:18 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most people would spend the rest of their lives trying to make peace with the feeling that they were responsible. I doubt he'll have that problem. That's a true statement |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:01:37 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait. I thought he was anti-gun? Why would he be holding one? Guns make him lots of money pleeb. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:02:43 AM EDT
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Wonder if production opted to use some cut rate armorers on this show. The real pros would never have let this happen. The best companies have incredible safety protocols and staff who don’t play around with this stuff.
And it IS odd that the DP and director were the ones catching the projectile / barrel obstruction. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:04:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:05:35 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Too bad the script didn't call for him shooting himself. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:07:58 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He'll blame the prop department and sleep easy. Assuming he did nothing but perform his role with the prop issued to him….it ain’t his fault. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:08:55 AM EDT
[#31]
Why is Alec Baldwin promoting gun violence by making movies with gun violence?
Hollywood's love of gun violence has no LITERALLY killed a woman. When will the madness stop? When will we ban movies that promote gun violence? |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:10:31 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many people have to be killed with a prop gun before they are deemed slightly dangerous? How the fuck does a prop gun kill somebody? I'd heard of the Brandon Lee thing, but there was another a few years later. I think it was a costar of Kate Jackson on some detective show. The dipshit put a blank pistol to his own temple and pulled the trigger. The powder charge and wad were enough to scramble his brain. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:11:47 AM EDT
[#33]
No fan of the man's politics but he's going to be living with this guilt for the rest of his life. Shit show for all involved and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:12:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Assuming he did nothing but perform his role with the prop issued to him.it ain't his fault. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He'll blame the prop department and sleep easy. Assuming he did nothing but perform his role with the prop issued to him.it ain't his fault. No, it's absolutely his fault. A woman is dead and he pulled the trigger. If I handed you a gun and said "Here, shoot this," and then you pulled the trigger and killed a woman, then what do you think would happen to you? You don't pull the fucking trigger on a gun until you're sure it's safe, or you want to kill what you're aiming at. Don't give him a pass because he was making a movie. That doesn't change shit. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:12:15 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is anti gun charge him https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/03/05/alec-baldwin-time-rethink-second-amendment/ This. If he's so anti gun, he never should have done any scenes with one, especially after making statements like that. Fuck that guy. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:14:15 AM EDT
[#36]
That POS has harmed and killed more people than any of my guns! It’s tragic and yes it was accidental but I doubt someone like him will have any remorse over it. I will bet he will blame everyone else including Trump for it. He really is that much of a piece of shit.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:16:08 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it's absolutely his fault. A woman is dead and he pulled the trigger. If I handed you a gun and said "Here, shoot this," and then you pulled the trigger and killed a woman, then what do you think would happen to you? You don't pull the fucking trigger on a gun until you're sure it's safe, or you want to kill what you're aiming at. Don't give him a pass because he was making a movie. That doesn't change shit. Yes, yes it does. That is literally how mens rea works. There is utterly no possible expectation that an actor has to practice firearms safety with a prop weapon, that he is going to pretent to shoot people with. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:16:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:16:52 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it's absolutely his fault. A woman is dead and he pulled the trigger. If I handed you a gun and said "Here, shoot this," and then you pulled the trigger and killed a woman, then what do you think would happen to you? You don't pull the fucking trigger on a gun until you're sure it's safe, or you want to kill what you're aiming at. Don't give him a pass because he was making a movie. That doesn't change shit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:20:36 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, yes it does. That is literally how mens rea works. There is utterly no possible expectation that an actor has to practice firearms safety with a prop weapon, that he is going to pretent to shoot people with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, it's absolutely his fault. A woman is dead and he pulled the trigger. If I handed you a gun and said "Here, shoot this," and then you pulled the trigger and killed a woman, then what do you think would happen to you? You don't pull the fucking trigger on a gun until you're sure it's safe, or you want to kill what you're aiming at. Don't give him a pass because he was making a movie. That doesn't change shit. Yes, yes it does. That is literally how mens rea works. There is utterly no possible expectation that an actor has to practice firearms safety with a prop weapon, that he is going to pretent to shoot people with. Tell that to the victim's family. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:21:41 AM EDT
[#41]
In before hollyweird bans guns in movies
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:22:10 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alec Munden. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So 2 injuries from a single round, or did this guy crank off two rounds from a single action revolver? And another actor getting hit would make more sense, rather than a writer and director, but I guess they could be in the line of fire based on the scene. Just seems weird, besides the tragedy Alec Munden. *snort* |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:24:05 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell that to the victim's family. An emotional argument....as powerful as it is, to a technical (legal) issue. Dont do that. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:24:21 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, yes it does. That is literally how mens rea works. There is utterly no possible expectation that an actor has to practice firearms safety with a prop weapon, that he is going to pretent to shoot people with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, it's absolutely his fault. A woman is dead and he pulled the trigger. If I handed you a gun and said "Here, shoot this," and then you pulled the trigger and killed a woman, then what do you think would happen to you? You don't pull the fucking trigger on a gun until you're sure it's safe, or you want to kill what you're aiming at. Don't give him a pass because he was making a movie. That doesn't change shit. Yes, yes it does. That is literally how mens rea works. There is utterly no possible expectation that an actor has to practice firearms safety with a prop weapon, that he is going to pretent to shoot people with. I could go with that, if the producer was the actor that was supposed to be getting shot at. If he was goofing around with “prop” guns, it’s entirely his fault. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:24:55 AM EDT
[#45]
but was it really an accident
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:25:32 AM EDT
[#46]
You first, douche
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:27:24 AM EDT
[#47]
Guns don't kill people, anti-gun actors kill people.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:29:39 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I could go with that, if the producer was the actor that was supposed to be getting shot at. If he was goofing around with “prop” guns, it’s entirely his fault. Oh, he is going to get sued. There could be far more info that we dont know, but if he was given a prop gun that he was going to pretend to shoot people with, there isnt a reasonable expectation of the 4 rules. Most of yall are approching this issue as a gun issue (with a healthy "fuck that guy and hollywood" along with it) if it was not a firearm at all, this is an equipment/equipment company liability issue. If he was given any instructions and did not follow them, yeah, his culpability rises. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:32:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is Alec Baldwin promoting gun violence by making movies with gun violence? Hollywood's love of gun violence has no LITERALLY killed a woman. When will the madness stop? When will we ban movies that promote gun violence? Banning things with violence is what got us the goddamned commie pinko faggots runnin round all over hell’s half acre nowadays man Who the hell wants to watch a movie with douchecanoes huddling in thier safe space singing kumbaya  |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:32:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too bad the script didn't call for him shooting himself. 
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