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I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. It sucks because it will break up our beloved country but if this left wing lunacy does not stop I see no other non violent solution. I mean it has gone so far as this DOJ defending against the Election Laws in place..............this is so fucking topsy turvy that I see no other solution. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. There's little the federal government can actually do if they chose to do that. Congress could try doing something when they count the votes, but that's probably the quickest way to get a Constitutional Convention called and get them absolutely punished and run out of office on a rail. I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. It sucks because it will break up our beloved country but if this left wing lunacy does not stop I see no other non violent solution. I mean it has gone so far as this DOJ defending against the Election Laws in place..............this is so fucking topsy turvy that I see no other solution. Elections have consequences. The people of the United States wanted to put criminals in power, they put criminals in power, and now they get to reap the whirlwind. |
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And some people still think Hillary is going to be prosecuted.
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. View Quote It's called Nullification. And IMHO, it's not just the right of the States, it's their sovereign duty to nullify unconstitutional law. But, highway funds. |
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Yeah, and I want to be 25 years old again. Neither are going to happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The need to turn this Nation 180 degrees back to the Right is more evident than ever Yeah, and I want to be 25 years old again. Neither are going to happen. Sounds like you have given up |
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No matter how many times you find out you're playing a rigged game, it's still galling.
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The end is near. View Quote Good. Let it happen and let the blood letting begin (if there are enough to get off their lazy ass' to begin the cleaning job) - kicking the can down the road has only got us to this point to date. Identify your enemies locally (you probably already know who they are) and target those above them ..... every wonder why there are so many pissed off people now days? |
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In all seriousness guys, I know we can all be naïve now and then, myself MOST DEFINITELY included...........but did you EVER envision our Federal government becoming THIS LAWLESS!!??
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I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. View Quote Last time I looked the trend was in the opposite direction. For example, 26 states have expanded Medicare, lured by the prospect of increased in Federal dollars. Don't expect that to change. Politicians, including state legislators and governors, love to spend money. They really love to spend money which they don't have to raise by imposing taxes. There is no downside, as far as they are concerned. They're not going to do anything to cut off the flow of Federal dollars. The men who devised this system were very intelligent and they knew their business. |
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Elections have consequences. The people of the United States wanted to put criminals in power, they put criminals in power, and now they get to reap the whirlwind. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. There's little the federal government can actually do if they chose to do that. Congress could try doing something when they count the votes, but that's probably the quickest way to get a Constitutional Convention called and get them absolutely punished and run out of office on a rail. I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. It sucks because it will break up our beloved country but if this left wing lunacy does not stop I see no other non violent solution. I mean it has gone so far as this DOJ defending against the Election Laws in place..............this is so fucking topsy turvy that I see no other solution. Elections have consequences. The people of the United States wanted to put criminals in power, they put criminals in power, and now they get to reap the whirlwind. The people of the United States didn't want to put criminals in power. They don't even know the laws. Or the history. Or the reasoning. They certainly will never learn of leftist criminality, either. |
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DOJ has gone full 'tard. It has become a total rogue agency with no real checks. Too bad there was never a mechanism in place in our constitution to prevent this. View Quote It's a political lap dog for Obama. Agendas and narratives. More important than actual law. Banana republic. |
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Quoted: The split would likely be some what amicable but would not last as the Left Wing empire would go by way of Venezuela in 10-15 years and people would be mass migrating to the Right Wing empire destroying it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Foreign and Domestic. Never thought I'd see domestic become the bigger problem. It's almost over. |
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Last time I looked the trend was in the opposite direction. For example, 26 states have expanded Medicare, lured by the prospect of increased in Federal dollars. Don't expect that to change. Politicians, including state legislators and governors, love to spend money. They really love to spend money which they don't have to raise by imposing taxes. There is no downside, as far as they are concerned. They're not going to do anything to cut off the flow of Federal dollars. The men who devised this system were very intelligent and they knew their business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. Last time I looked the trend was in the opposite direction. For example, 26 states have expanded Medicare, lured by the prospect of increased in Federal dollars. Don't expect that to change. Politicians, including state legislators and governors, love to spend money. They really love to spend money which they don't have to raise by imposing taxes. There is no downside, as far as they are concerned. They're not going to do anything to cut off the flow of Federal dollars. The men who devised this system were very intelligent and they knew their business. Oh...........believe me I KNOW what you are saying.........I really do. |
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Quoted: At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. View Quote |
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I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. It sucks because it will break up our beloved country but if this left wing lunacy does not stop I see no other non violent solution. I mean it has gone so far as this DOJ defending against the Election Laws in place..............this is so fucking topsy turvy that I see no other solution. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. There's little the federal government can actually do if they chose to do that. Congress could try doing something when they count the votes, but that's probably the quickest way to get a Constitutional Convention called and get them absolutely punished and run out of office on a rail. I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. It sucks because it will break up our beloved country but if this left wing lunacy does not stop I see no other non violent solution. I mean it has gone so far as this DOJ defending against the Election Laws in place..............this is so fucking topsy turvy that I see no other solution. The States need to stop allowing themselves to be bribed and coerced with the Peoples tax money. |
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The people of the United States didn't want to put criminals in power. They don't even know the laws. Or the history. Or the reasoning. They certainly will never learn of leftist criminality, either. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. There's little the federal government can actually do if they chose to do that. Congress could try doing something when they count the votes, but that's probably the quickest way to get a Constitutional Convention called and get them absolutely punished and run out of office on a rail. I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. It sucks because it will break up our beloved country but if this left wing lunacy does not stop I see no other non violent solution. I mean it has gone so far as this DOJ defending against the Election Laws in place..............this is so fucking topsy turvy that I see no other solution. Elections have consequences. The people of the United States wanted to put criminals in power, they put criminals in power, and now they get to reap the whirlwind. The people of the United States didn't want to put criminals in power. They don't even know the laws. Or the history. Or the reasoning. They certainly will never learn of leftist criminality, either. Are you suggesting it was a secret that Chicago power brokers are criminals? |
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I don't think most of them even cared or care now as long as they get their free shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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................ Are you suggesting it was a secret that Chicago power brokers are criminals? I don't think most of them even cared or care now as long as they get their free shit. Price of socialism. Chicago politics is a synonym for corruption. Everyone in this country knew very well what they were voting for. Now we get to pay. |
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. View Quote There it is. Let's get this party started. |
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It's not just the DOJ, it is every agency run by an Obama appointee. Nasa no longer does space travel but Muslim outreach. EPA now creates new regulations to take down coal and to make business much more expensive. Department of Education has brainwashed a generation that man made global warming is real and that socialism is better than our republic founded by racists and criminals.
I asked my representative (congressman) how they could reign in the agencies that they created and gave all this power to. Congress no longer makes laws, they gave that authority to the agencies to make regulations and rules that come down from the political leanings of the president and his appointees. My congressman said that they have no mechanism to control the agencies except funding and that (under Boener) he refused to allow funding to even come up for debate. Even if the house did debate or pass something, the president didn't sign a budget for 6 years, but instead ran under Continuing Resolutions. So where is our representation in this government? |
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Are you suggesting it was a secret that Chicago power brokers are criminals? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Elections have consequences. The people of the United States wanted to put criminals in power, they put criminals in power, and now they get to reap the whirlwind. The people of the United States didn't want to put criminals in power. They don't even know the laws. Or the history. Or the reasoning. They certainly will never learn of leftist criminality, either. Are you suggesting it was a secret that Chicago power brokers are criminals? Yes. For most of America, it is. |
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It's not just the DOJ, it is every agency run by an Obama appointee. Nasa no longer does space travel but Muslim outreach. EPA now creates new regulations to take down coal and to make business much more expensive. Department of Education has brainwashed a generation that man made global warming is real and that socialism is better than our republic founded by racists and criminals. I asked my representative (congressman) how they could reign in the agencies that they created and gave all this power to. Congress no longer makes laws, they gave that authority to the agencies to make regulations and rules that come down from the political leanings of the president and his appointees. My congressman said that they have no mechanism to control the agencies except funding and that (under Boener) he refused to allow funding to even come up for debate. Even if the house did debate or pass something, the president didn't sign a budget for 6 years, but instead ran under Continuing Resolutions. So where is our representation in this government? View Quote Yep. It's hard keeping track of all the agencies that have been weaponized against their political opponents (which are mostly regular, tax-paying citizens). And once again, Big Government (TM) defends the party of Big Government (eg. the Democrats)... by attacking/silencing opponents, by taking over the education system, by importing millions of third-world, socialism-loving immigrants, by refusing to enforce the laws... not to mention bringing down the entire weight of the Regulatory State on anybody who crosses them. |
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I don't think most of them even cared or care now as long as they get their free shit. View Quote Let's not forget that many, many Americans voted for Obama in 2008 in reaction to the events of mid-September 2008. Let's not forget that John McCain's inept response to those events caused some more to vote for Obama. Perhaps his response wouldn't have been so inept if he had gotten the same briefings from Henry Paulson from which Obama benefited. Events matter. Candidates matter. Campaigns matter. GOTV efforts matter. I watched the McCain campaign try and improvise a campaign and a GOTV effort at the last minute in Indiana in 2008. For the most part the people they sent here were inexperienced and inept. |
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That's why I keep saying that LEO's and the military are going to eventually be our ONLY hope if this left wing lunacy continues for much longer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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................... I remember reading an article about a Sheriff that told the Dept of Agriculture and/or EPA that they would be arrested for their continued harassment against a local farmer in his county. Guess what? The Feds stopped contacting that farmer and dragging him back into court for the millionth time. That's why I keep saying that LEO's and the military are going to eventually be our ONLY hope if this left wing lunacy continues for much longer. The deciding factor in this scenario is how many of these are left wing. |
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The deciding factor in this scenario is how many of these are left wing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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................... I remember reading an article about a Sheriff that told the Dept of Agriculture and/or EPA that they would be arrested for their continued harassment against a local farmer in his county. Guess what? The Feds stopped contacting that farmer and dragging him back into court for the millionth time. That's why I keep saying that LEO's and the military are going to eventually be our ONLY hope if this left wing lunacy continues for much longer. The deciding factor in this scenario is how many of these are left wing. Ever wonder why the push for gays, trannys and women in the combat arms? |
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So sick of hearing liberal scum compare people who are standing up for this nation and it core principals being compared to Nazi's.
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Last time I looked the trend was in the opposite direction. For example, 26 states have expanded Medicare, lured by the prospect of increased in Federal dollars. Don't expect that to change. Politicians, including state legislators and governors, love to spend money. They really love to spend money which they don't have to raise by imposing taxes. There is no downside, as far as they are concerned. They're not going to do anything to cut off the flow of Federal dollars. The men who devised this system were very intelligent and they knew their business. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I hate to say this but I honestly do think it is TIME for the States to take their funding lumps from the Federal government and just not listen to them any longer. Last time I looked the trend was in the opposite direction. For example, 26 states have expanded Medicare, lured by the prospect of increased in Federal dollars. Don't expect that to change. Politicians, including state legislators and governors, love to spend money. They really love to spend money which they don't have to raise by imposing taxes. There is no downside, as far as they are concerned. They're not going to do anything to cut off the flow of Federal dollars. The men who devised this system were very intelligent and they knew their business. North Carolina turned down the expanded Medicare. We also turned down the additional unemployment AND paid back almost $2 billion in debt to fedgov. Of course, we had to raise taxes and cut spending to do this. It's what I am expecting our current governor to lose his re-election bid. |
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Quoted: It's not just the DOJ, it is every agency run by an Obama appointee. Nasa no longer does space travel but Muslim outreach. EPA now creates new regulations to take down coal and to make business much more expensive. Department of Education has brainwashed a generation that man made global warming is real and that socialism is better than our republic founded by racists and criminals. I asked my representative (congressman) how they could reign in the agencies that they created and gave all this power to. Congress no longer makes laws, they gave that authority to the agencies to make regulations and rules that come down from the political leanings of the president and his appointees. My congressman said that they have no mechanism to control the agencies except funding and that (under Boener) he refused to allow funding to even come up for debate. Even if the house did debate or pass something, the president didn't sign a budget for 6 years, but instead ran under Continuing Resolutions. So where is our representation in this government? View Quote We're just fooked. The Liberty Tree is dying of thirst. Pretty soon I see a Federal ban on the sale of tar and feathers, too. "if we can save just one politician...." |
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Perhaps I'm just a bad person , but I fail to see how requiring someone to prove who they are is anything but a good thing.
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North Carolina turned down the expanded Medicare. We also turned down the additional unemployment AND paid back almost $2 billion in debt to fedgov. Of course, we had to raise taxes and cut spending to do this. It's what I am expecting our current governor to lose his re-election bid. View Quote If you're correct that result won't exactly have state level politicians elsewhere lining up to follow his example, will it? |
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Quoted: Have you ever seen a federal judge? There's pretty much nothing they CAN'T do, at least as far as they're concerned. He could rule against the parties here if he wanted to. IF he wanted to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In light of recognizing this, is there anything the Judge can do? Have you ever seen a federal judge? There's pretty much nothing they CAN'T do, at least as far as they're concerned. He could rule against the parties here if he wanted to. IF he wanted to. And what's the chances that the DOJ would appeal ? Just keep kicking it upstairs 'till it gets to SCOTUS. Then they get to fix it. |
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"Judge Leon ended the hearing by saying that he would announce his decision on the TRO on Tuesday. With regard to the PI, he set a hearing date for March 9, and left the record open for supplemental pleadings to be filed. He also told the lawyers that they could file requests for limited discovery if they felt it was needed. DOJ will probably try to avoid that; I am sure they don’t want any discovery that could lead to more information being disclosed about their interference in the internal workings of what is supposed to be an independent, bi-partisan agency — the EAC." Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431752/noncitizen-voting-case-doj-rebuked Some discovery here to find out just who is jerking the strings at the DOJ would be good. Just how high up the ladder does this go? I'm starting to smell Valerie Jarrett in this cluster fuck. |
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At this point the states should do what they want and simply ignore DOJ If Colorado and Washington can do it for the weed, anyone should be able to do it for anyone. The federal government is lawless; the states should reciprocate. View Quote But Muh Highway money! Muh LE Grants! Muh School money! Ya think if the States did not allow the Feds to steal the money from their citizens to start with, any those would be a problem? |
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America will be gone in another generation or so. We will be the North American Union and the Constitution will be gutted. Writing been on
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It's not just the DOJ, it is every agency run by an Obama appointee. Nasa no longer does space travel but Muslim outreach. EPA now creates new regulations to take down coal and to make business much more expensive. Department of Education has brainwashed a generation that man made global warming is real and that socialism is better than our republic founded by racists and criminals. I asked my representative (congressman) how they could reign in the agencies that they created and gave all this power to. Congress no longer makes laws, they gave that authority to the agencies to make regulations and rules that come down from the political leanings of the president and his appointees. My congressman said that they have no mechanism to control the agencies except funding and that (under Boener) he refused to allow funding to even come up for debate. Even if the house did debate or pass something, the president didn't sign a budget for 6 years, but instead ran under Continuing Resolutions. So where is our representation in this government? View Quote That's bullshit. They can, they're just too lazy, venal, and stupid to do it. They can write and pass a law disestablishing any individual gov agency. They can override the veto. They won't. We have none. None at all. |
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So, tell me again how the DOJ is going to prosecute Hillary Clinton?
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That's bullshit. They can, they're just too lazy, venal, and stupid to do it. They can write and pass a law disestablishing any individual gov agency. They can override the veto. They won't. We have none. None at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's not just the DOJ, it is every agency run by an Obama appointee. Nasa no longer does space travel but Muslim outreach. EPA now creates new regulations to take down coal and to make business much more expensive. Department of Education has brainwashed a generation that man made global warming is real and that socialism is better than our republic founded by racists and criminals. I asked my representative (congressman) how they could reign in the agencies that they created and gave all this power to. Congress no longer makes laws, they gave that authority to the agencies to make regulations and rules that come down from the political leanings of the president and his appointees. My congressman said that they have no mechanism to control the agencies except funding and that (under Boener) he refused to allow funding to even come up for debate. Even if the house did debate or pass something, the president didn't sign a budget for 6 years, but instead ran under Continuing Resolutions. So where is our representation in this government? That's bullshit. They can, they're just too lazy, venal, and stupid to do it. They can write and pass a law disestablishing any individual gov agency. They can override the veto. They won't. We have none. None at all. All true except one thing: they are not lazy, they are complicit. |
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