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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:18:35 AM EDT
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In before Twitter User Guidlines.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:18:36 AM EDT
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So gun guys and people with real world experience will continue to be banned for being rough around the edges while leftists and general internet weirdos that can follow the letter of the law while inciting responses will continue to be coddled?
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The site needs to be friendly for all users.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:18:44 AM EDT
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I don't think you're going to get your preference.  A formalized process and having mods take action against shit-stirrers would be an improvement over the current, somewhat ad-hoc moderation.
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Agreed.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:18:57 AM EDT
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Hope it doesn't turn into Glocktalk with their Canadian shitlords.
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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:19:20 AM EDT
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I, for one, welcome our new CoC overlords...
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Where do I apply for a mod job?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:19:21 AM EDT
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Doesn't mean shit unless the folks in charge pull their heads out and shitcan the underscore crew.
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Amen to that... it's the same usual suspects, time and time again, that cause serious issues in GD.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:19:33 AM EDT
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Y’all also vehemently said “nothing is changing.”

Here we are, a month or two on, and it sounds like wholesale changes.

Not criticizing, just pointing out the strange dichotomy.

Arfcom needs a publicist. LOL.
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Fuck that goatboy needs to hire Sara sanders as a press secretary
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:19:54 AM EDT
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There’s a difference between fun and being retarded children that GD acts like so often.
Tell it to gunriter.
I think the part about a formal appeals process is exactly to address that sort of issue.
I prefer less rules, let people be butthurt.
I don't think you're going to get your preference.  A formalized process and having mods take action against shit-stirrers would be an improvement over the current, somewhat ad-hoc moderation.
It will turn out just like all the other boards, discussion groups, social platform.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:20:42 AM EDT
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Be careful what you ask for.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:20:57 AM EDT
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Y’all also vehemently said “nothing is changing.”

Here we are, a month or two on, and it sounds like wholesale changes.

Not criticizing, just pointing out the strange dichotomy.

Arfcom needs a publicist. LOL.
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Jesus ain't this the fucking truth.
Then again there are lawyers involved and whenever that class of scumbags gets their fingers in, it turns to shit.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:21:41 AM EDT
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Hopefully the follow through and ban the fucking trolls who bait people into personal_attacks.

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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:22:11 AM EDT
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AR15.com has gone Corporate, let the offended rule the world...
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:22:16 AM EDT
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Will new policies be modeled after those from FB and Twitter? Asking for a friend.

Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:22:24 AM EDT
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Anyone who thinks that this happened after goatboys meeting with our new corporate overlords and this has nothing to do with new ownership has their head in the sand. Once anything corporate happens and their legal teams and insurance starts digging changes will come. The fact that the first sentence in the announcement  states that this has nothing to do with Brownells is just projecting.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:22:55 AM EDT
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What does it take to be a new mod?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:23:31 AM EDT
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Sounds like they are looking for Consistency. I am a fan of Consistency.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:23:59 AM EDT
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What a bunch of fucking BS. Just what this place needs. Less freedom.  wtf

Come to our website about the right to bear arms. But don’t go talking too wildly.

Commie bullshit.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:25:24 AM EDT
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Just read through it... and I guess it sounds good in theory, but we'll see how it plays out in practice. I don't see any issues, personally.
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Yeah, I think that it will be good to put in writing most of what already happens.  If we remove the claims of mystery from the moderating process, then there should be less butthurt.
(for clarity- I'm not suggesting that there is mystery, but merely that everyone who gets a warning plays the same "I never knew it was illegal to run a stop sign while smoking crack and listening to Whitney Houston. Why do you hate Whitney Houston?" BS.  Adding explanation to the COC should help reduce some whining.)

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There’s a difference between fun and being retarded children that GD acts like so often.
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Some of what makes GD, GD also gets to be annoying.  I can't imagine being a Mod. You couldn't pay me for that chore.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:25:29 AM EDT
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I, for one, welcome our new CoC overlords...
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Everyone here knew you liked the CoC, and embraced the CoC.

But like you, I too welcome more CoC in my AR15.com life.

The bigger the CoC, the better.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:26:06 AM EDT
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Arfcom loves COC, so the bigger the COC the better
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:26:21 AM EDT
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I prefer less rules, let people be butthurt.
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I generally prefer less rules as well. The changes outlined in the post you linked to seemed more than reasonable to me. Defining offenses, adding an appeals process while still allowing friendly ribbing? What’s wrong with that?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:26:30 AM EDT
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That’s how I feel. It’s gotten bad.
That’s not true especially not in forum land. There have been plenty of great talkers and content providers run off by people who should have been slapped down.
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately.
That’s how I feel. It’s gotten bad.
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Oversight of speech always ends poorly for those who actually speak. If you say much you should be fine.
That’s not true especially not in forum land. There have been plenty of great talkers and content providers run off by people who should have been slapped down.
Yet more have gotten banned over responding to trolls than actual trolls. I can remember trolls having to admit to trolling before their troll asses  got the hammer. People who got banned over engaging with the trolls, still gone.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:26:53 AM EDT
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as long as "trolling" can be defined, I am good with it.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:27:02 AM EDT
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For long-term or permanent bans I'd love to see a trial by jury or panel approach.  4 mods, 1 or 2 site staff, and 3-5 randomly appointed paying members with at least 5 years on the board.  Set forth the charges and prior disciplinary history and have a consensus decision made with input from regular members.  Sort of the way attorney discipline boards work in the penalty phase.

But this will probably never happen....
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I don’t want a 13’er on my jury.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:27:07 AM EDT
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I have mixed feelings...

On one hand I hate any censorship, closing of threads and such.  Especially, when they don't say exactly why they were closed.

On the other hand, Its not that serious. In all my years on all the forums I'm on, I've never been banned, don't think one of my threads have been shut, never even had to put someone on mt Ignore list.  So I don't have a problem with them trying to clean it up a bit.

The worst I have had/done was I got a warning once, because I hard ordred a few AR15.com hats and I hated how tall they sat on my head. So in conversation about that I linked to a hat on another gun forum that I like the shape and fit of it much better.  I was warned for mentioning TOS as they called it.

I don't really get into forum pissing matches and not much offends me.
If I see a Thread title I don't like, bores me or I'm not interested, I keep scrolling.  If I see a repost I don't flip out, I keep scrolling.

The only things I thing a thread should be shut for is posting Child Porn, something illegal to post or that could get the site in trouble.

Other than that, let it go.  If you think its ran its course, exit the thread and keep scrolling.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:27:14 AM EDT
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Free Sylvan???
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:27:15 AM EDT
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Some of the biggest trolls on this site are mods.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:27:29 AM EDT
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So gun guys and people with real world experience will continue to be banned for being rough around the edges while leftists and general internet weirdos that can follow the letter of the law while inciting responses will continue to be coddled?
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Good summation.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:29:11 AM EDT
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Heh.

I remember when I called out a mod for violating a rule.
Then, it was suddenly found that I was violating a minor rule and I got a 3 day ban.

I dunno if I want good moderators on Arfcom, because then it wouldn't be arfcom.
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Reminds me of when my former neighbor complained about a dangerous intersection (that they eventually fixed, a decade later) to the local government.

The tax assessor was over within a week, and they got their taxes increased.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:29:20 AM EDT
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I like this
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Not this
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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:29:36 AM EDT
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What a bunch of fucking BS. Just what this place needs. Less freedom.  wtf

Come to our website about the right to bear arms. But don’t go talking too wildly.

Commie bullshit.
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This site should be absolutely hostile to leftists. As the liberal membership continues to grow, the money that they are able to bring in will allow their narrative to fester.

You’ll see outspoken proponents fall away.

I can’t wait until the Socialist Rifle Association has their own subforum!

Eventually, being outwardly outspoken and hostile toward leftists and liberalism will be seen as a call out and violation of the COC.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:29:45 AM EDT
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I really dont understand where all of this is coming from. This site has been fantastic.

Seriously what the fuck is going on here?
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I concur. The mod swap at AKfiles sent me to ARF. Folks bothered by some text on a forum should take a long look in the mirror.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:30:13 AM EDT
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less government is best

this place is downright tame, there can't be all that much to mod
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:30:16 AM EDT
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#1 is total bullshit

Brownells squires the site and now there’s changes?

That’s ok, plenty of other forums to visit
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:30:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:30:57 AM EDT
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Anyone involved in a buyout know how terrible of a lie this was.  They are using the exact play book I called before. Have the leadership trot out nothing will change while having them slowly change things.  Even having different members post each statement.

This change is a coincidence!

The founding fathers will be banned while the British are elevated in power. Gotta follow the rules silly colonies.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:31:28 AM EDT
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What a bunch of fucking BS. Just what this place needs. Less freedom.  wtf

Come to our website about the right to bear arms. But don’t go talking too wildly.

Commie bullshit.
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This guys gets it...
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:31:40 AM EDT
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Where do I apply for a mod job?
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This...  And does it pay union scale?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:31:56 AM EDT
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I generally prefer less rules as well. The changes outlined in the post you linked to seemed more than reasonable to me. Defining offenses, adding an appeals process while still allowing friendly ribbing? What’s wrong with that?
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I prefer less rules, let people be butthurt.
I generally prefer less rules as well. The changes outlined in the post you linked to seemed more than reasonable to me. Defining offenses, adding an appeals process while still allowing friendly ribbing? What’s wrong with that?
It always seems reasonable, yet we see the outcome on other platforms everyday. How many other platforms started out with similar changes that you no longer click on?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:32:14 AM EDT
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For every post I edit I get $1.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every warning I give I get $3.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every person I help ban I get $5.00 on a Brownells gift card.

I have already made $24.00 today.

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I, for one, welcome our new CoC overlords...
Of course you do
For every post I edit I get $1.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every warning I give I get $3.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every person I help ban I get $5.00 on a Brownells gift card.

I have already made $24.00 today.

Who gave you the nickle?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:32:17 AM EDT
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I watched war rifles go bat shit crazy w no moderation 15 years ago and the firing line go the opposite direction. GD has always been a happy medium to me. I certainly hope that remains the case.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:32:39 AM EDT
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On a serious note, I personally like Ed Avila Sr, as I've met him and chatted with him a bit.

The rest of AR15.com staff and mods, I don't know any of these people personally, for the most part I find these people to be ok.

It puzzles me though, that no one had a big enough brain to sit down and figure out / chart the growth rate for this place, and to have an understanding for the ratio of mods:members necessary for smooth operations?

Just because it's the internet does not mean it has to scale infinitely. That does not work in nature, not sure why anyone thought it would work in virtual reality.

GD should either be pay to enter, time on site to enter, number of posts to enter and likewise, number of infractions to be booted, with a mandatory minimum time off period before re-entry.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:33:49 AM EDT
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There’s a difference between fun and being retarded children that GD acts like so often.
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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:33:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:35:01 AM EDT
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Will "lol" be considered trolling?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:35:01 AM EDT
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Who gave you the nickle?
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I, for one, welcome our new CoC overlords...
Of course you do
For every post I edit I get $1.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every warning I give I get $3.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every person I help ban I get $5.00 on a Brownells gift card.

I have already made $24.00 today.

Who gave you the nickle?
All of them.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:35:40 AM EDT
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For every post I edit I get $1.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every warning I give I get $3.00 on a Brownells gift card.
For every person I help ban I get $5.00 on a Brownells gift card.

I have already made $24.00 today.

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How much are you selling the gift cards for?

Asking for a friend
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:35:48 AM EDT
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Freedom is scary.  It's the year 1984 at ARFCOM.
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