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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:36:30 AM EDT
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INB4 "their website, their rules"
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:36:33 AM EDT
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:08 AM EDT
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How much are you selling the gift cards for? Asking for a friend Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For every post I edit I get $1.00 on a Brownells gift card. For every warning I give I get $3.00 on a Brownells gift card. For every person I help ban I get $5.00 on a Brownells gift card. I have already made $24.00 today.  Asking for a friend |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:09 AM EDT
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On a serious note, I personally like Ed Avila Sr, as I've met him and chatted with him a bit. The rest of AR15.com staff and mods, I don't know any of these people personally, for the most part I find these people to be ok. It puzzles me though, that no one had a big enough brain to sit down and figure out / chart the growth rate for this place, and to have an understanding for the ratio of mods:members necessary for smooth operations? Just because it's the internet does not mean it has to scale infinitely. That does not work in nature, not sure why anyone thought it would work in virtual reality. GD should either be pay to enter, time on site to enter, number of posts to enter and likewise, number of infractions to be booted, with a mandatory minimum time off period before re-entry. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:12 AM EDT
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For every post I edit I get $1.00 on a Brownells gift card. For every warning I give I get $3.00 on a Brownells gift card. For every person I help ban I get $5.00 on a Brownells gift card. I have already made $24.00 today. “I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!! “ REEEEEEEEEESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:15 AM EDT
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Old infractions needs to drop off after a certain amount of time. Otherwise, long time members are penalized for warnings and time outs they received many years ago
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:16 AM EDT
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Its just Common Sense GD reform.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:38:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:38:31 AM EDT
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. Hopefully going after trolls means going after the people who follow the “how to destroy a forum” rule book. Spamming the board with shitloads of “news” stories to bury good threads, stalking other posters and posting argumentative crap just to try and get a COC response. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:38:38 AM EDT
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I like TBS and the changes look like a step in the right direction. I am very optimistic!
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:39:37 AM EDT
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And by lately you mean the last 5+ years. Hopefully going after trolls means going after the people who follow the “how to destroy a forum” rule book. Spamming the board with shitloads of “news” stories to bury good threads, stalking other posters and posting argumentative crap just to try and get a COC response. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. Hopefully going after trolls means going after the people who follow the “how to destroy a forum” rule book. Spamming the board with shitloads of “news” stories to bury good threads, stalking other posters and posting argumentative crap just to try and get a COC response. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:39:49 AM EDT
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New mods? Where do I apply? I really need to be on a career track that will lead to a Porsche 911. You start with a Yugo and work your way up to a Hi-lux with no air conditioning and manual everything. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:39:54 AM EDT
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Humour is a tough one to define.
Que sera |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:40:18 AM EDT
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On a serious note, I personally like Ed Avila Sr, as I've met him and chatted with him a bit. The rest of AR15.com staff and mods, I don't know any of these people personally, for the most part I find these people to be ok. It puzzles me though, that no one had a big enough brain to sit down and figure out / chart the growth rate for this place, and to have an understanding for the ratio of mods:members necessary for smooth operations? Just because it's the internet does not mean it has to scale infinitely. That does not work in nature, not sure why anyone thought it would work in virtual reality. GD should either be pay to enter, time on site to enter, number of posts to enter and likewise, number of infractions to be booted, with a mandatory minimum time off period before re-entry. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:40:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the part about a formal appeals process is exactly to address that sort of issue. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:40:41 AM EDT
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. Hypothetically, of course. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:40:50 AM EDT
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The end of GD as we know it
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:42:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:42:50 AM EDT
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Hopefully it can be retroactive so we can get a few good ones reinstated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I think the part about a formal appeals process is exactly to address that sort of issue. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:42:51 AM EDT
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Depends on who these "new moderators" are and how over-zealous they are.
I have a few dings on my account and I don't think I was ever done wrong in the past. I just hope people don't start getting banned for trivial bullshit that makes GD fun. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:43:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oversight of speech always ends poorly for those who actually speak. If you don't say much you should be fine. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:43:07 AM EDT
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Everyone....  
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:43:17 AM EDT
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:43:35 AM EDT
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Anyone who thinks that this happened after goatboys meeting with our new corporate overlords and this has nothing to do with new ownership has their head in the sand. Once anything corporate happens and their legal teams and insurance starts digging changes will come. The fact that the first sentence in the announcement states that this has nothing to do with Brownells is just projecting. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:44:09 AM EDT
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If I were to call you grandpa, would that be a violation of Brownell's new coc policy? Hypothetically, of course. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:44:34 AM EDT
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The insults thing is pathetic, if being called a name bothers a member that much then they should be banned. We all talk about liberal snow flakes, yet here we are (sorry if I called any of you other members a liberal snow flake just now, I’d hate to offend you).
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:44:41 AM EDT
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AR15.com has gone Corporate, let the offended rule the world... Gun industry is slumping and the last thing BrownellsCom needs is bad press their forum has bullies and bigots. This site has gone to shit. People used to have extremely patriotic views. Now it's full of easily offended wimps and cucks. Corporation marginalizing a community to neuter their voice? Nah never been done before. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:45:13 AM EDT
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Define trolling... Are we talking about insignificant time wasters like trolling about average chili dogs from the Midwest or strictly serious topics? Or just anything someone claims as a troll?
ETA: I see that definition is pending. This should be good. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:45:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't really get how the internet works, do you? See, there are these things called clicks, views, and advertising revenue... GD is the open door that likely drives the bulk of each of these for the site to put it behind a paywall wouldn't be in the interest of ARF.
To my big CoC overlords - that was not an insult - merely stating a fact. I did not propose a flat out paywall for GD, but that is what Mr J. K. Coon decided to run with.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:45:21 AM EDT
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Considering volunteering to mod... This place has been good to me.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:45:29 AM EDT
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I think it sounds like people who can't conduct themselves like reasonable adults will be gone, and that's a good thing. I'm more in the camp of almost unlimited exchange and restraint in the form of ideas, politics, etc. The infantile topics of dick pics, trannies, fetishes, etc. seem a total waste of time, and there are untold numbers of sites that cover and allow unfettered access for those interests...but...again...there's that personal opinion based metric rearing its ugly head. Humor should not be on the chopping block, but where humor and horrendously bad taste cross a vague line does actually exist. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:46:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why you no likey freedom? @jjcrt263b Poor choice of words. For me "enter" = post. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:46:36 AM EDT
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They took little action against the NeverTrumpers who were baiting people in 2016. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doesn't mean shit unless the folks in charge pull their heads out and shitcan the underscore crew. ...aaaand there goes my chances at being a mod.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:47:17 AM EDT
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. I thought things would improve after trump was elected, but we took our full retard and dialed it up to 11. There are way to many leftist agiprops that have had free reign for way too long. It’s past time to settle them down. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:47:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who denies this is delusional or lying. Gun industry is slumping and the last thing BrownellsCom needs is bad press their forum has bullies and bigots. This site has gone to shit. People used to have extremely patriotic views. Now it's full of easily offended wimps and cucks. Corporation marginalizing a community to neuter their voice? Nah never been done before. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:49:32 AM EDT
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If you knew how reading comprehension works you'd not have posted that, would you?
To my big CoC overlords - that was not an insult - merely stating a fact. I did not propose a flat out paywall for GD, but that is what Mr J. K. Coon decided to run with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You don't really get how the internet works, do you? See, there are these things called clicks, views, and advertising revenue... GD is the open door that likely drives the bulk of each of these for the site to put it behind a paywall wouldn't be in the interest of ARF.
To my big CoC overlords - that was not an insult - merely stating a fact. I did not propose a flat out paywall for GD, but that is what Mr J. K. Coon decided to run with. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:50:17 AM EDT
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Old infractions needs to drop off after a certain amount of time. Otherwise, long time members are penalized for warnings and time outs they received many years ago |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:50:40 AM EDT
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Considering volunteering to mod... This place has been good to me.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:51:01 AM EDT
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I prefer less rules, let people be butthurt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There’s a difference between fun and being retarded children that GD acts like so often. "There will be no changes when Brownells takes over." Sounds like somebody got told. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:51:16 AM EDT
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Subscriptions and search functions deals with a lot of that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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good. We need it. This place has turned into a mess lately. Hopefully going after trolls means going after the people who follow the “how to destroy a forum” rule book. Spamming the board with shitloads of “news” stories to bury good threads, stalking other posters and posting argumentative crap just to try and get a COC response. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:52:12 AM EDT
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I see this on another site I frequent. It depends solely on the mods. Ive seen it done fairly and unfairly.
Ive seen mods troll and flame like a regular poster to goad a reaction out of a poster, they respond, and they get nailed for it. Ive seen it here too. Mods tell people in a thread to behave, a mod comes in a trolls same as anyone else, when people bite, he threatens to close the thread. So on one hand I do appreciate a mechanism to keep the mods honest but it can certainly take this place to a zero fun place quick if over done. Judgement...all about judgement. My advice to mods, start with warnings. A lot of them. Without these types of rules for so long, a lot of us wont know where the line is. It may be unitentional. Like you have to learn, we have to learn. We arent all privied to every warning either. Just things to keep in mind. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:52:17 AM EDT
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I volunteer to moderate the shitposting sub forum. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:52:32 AM EDT
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Having been around since 2003, I generally trust the site's leadership. When TBS posts something, I take him at his word.
There's no denying the site has shifted a ton in GD in the last 4-6 years. Known agitators toe the line but trigger otherwise good members to get timeouts and bans. Sounds like we'll finally get rid of the agitators. Being the Wild West is fine. There were rules, people were civilized, but things were rough around the edges and you could be shot for being an asshole, it was the risk. What it seems many want is anarchy, where you go to bed and your hose is lit on fire for the lulz. There are plenty of places on the internet you can go if you like anarchy. It doesn't need to be here. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:52:45 AM EDT
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Trolling is like pornography.
I can't define it, but I know it when I see it. Attempting to codify a definition for trolling will only end in heartache for everyone involved. Absolutely atrocious decision to try to do so. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:55:34 AM EDT
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So much for a forum that supports freedom.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:56:03 AM EDT
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I was "warned" in what I believed to be "in error" (how's that for crappy grammar?). I contacted the Mod by IM and never received a response. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:58:00 AM EDT
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Some of the biggest trolls on this site are mods. 
QFT sad really not so much trolls but heavy handed bs
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:58:21 AM EDT
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Brownells killing GD.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 10:59:01 AM EDT
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Having been around since 2003, I generally trust the site's leadership. When TBS posts something, I take him at his word. There's no denying the site has shifted a ton in GD in the last 4-6 years. Known agitators toe the line but trigger otherwise good members to get timeouts and bans. Sounds like we'll finally get rid of the agitators. Being the Wild West is fine. There were rules, people were civilized, but things were rough around the edges and you could be shot for being an asshole, it was the risk. What it seems many want is anarchy, where you go to bed and your hose is lit on fire for the lulz. There are plenty of places on the internet you can go if you like anarchy. It doesn't need to be here. |
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