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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:56:37 AM EDT
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This thread is hilarious. People are going off the rails with virtually no information and are so completely wrong. One of two things is happening: 1) We are bowing to our Brownell overlords contrary to everything that we've been saying and are prepared to completety change Arfcom into some mindless corporate entity and every staff member has been lying to you; or 2) It's just like TBS has stated in that thread and we're on one of our periodic quests to try to clean up/improve GD. Everyone put on your big boy pants and play the "what is more likely" game using your critical reasoning skills.  
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:57:02 AM EDT
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I wonder if this means I can't post Rogueboss meme's anymore? Ive got a great new one I haven't had a good opportunity to use yet.  
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:57:48 AM EDT
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I wonder if this means I can't post Rogueboss meme's anymore? Ive got a great new one I haven't had a good opportunity to use yet.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333874/BBC-969068.jpg 
Funny thing is I can give and take with you. Some 3rd party member/brownells is gonna ruin it all
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:58:01 AM EDT
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Post it before the new rules go into effect. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:58:14 AM EDT
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I wonder if this means I can't post Rogueboss meme's anymore? Ive got a great new one I haven't had a good opportunity to use yet.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333874/BBC-969068.jpg at the end of the post your good.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:58:16 AM EDT
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What if I said these discussions have been carried on for years and various attempts were made but volunteers lose interest and without strong leadership the ability to maintain the momentum just isn't there. The current, I hate to use "attempt" because this one is already much different, but the current attempt started back in late 2018 and you are just now seeing the public part of it. You can blame it on Brownells and I'm sure no one will care, but this is a result of the management listening to the members and attempting to make changes that hopefully would be better and not worst. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:58:36 AM EDT
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Funny thing is I can give and take with you. Some 3rd party member/brownells is gonna ruin it all 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:59:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That appeal is a losing proposition. I can't help you any further than that. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:59:34 AM EDT
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I shit post too much to be a mod. Not happening.https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You can stop at any time now, the powers to be know you want to be a mod. The butt smooching is a bit obvious. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 11:59:40 AM EDT
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Arfcom should sell indulgences for bannable offenses.  
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:00:05 PM EDT
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This thread is hilarious. People are going off the rails with virtually no information and are so completely wrong. One of two things is happening: 1) We are bowing to our Brownell overlords contrary to everything that we've been saying and are prepared to completety change Arfcom into some mindless corporate entity and every staff member has been lying to you; or 2) It's just like TBS has stated in that thread and we're on one of our periodic quests to try to clean up/improve GD. Everyone put on your big boy pants and play the "what is more likely" game using your critical reasoning skills. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:00:41 PM EDT
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So what you're saying is I should call people names as to get it outta my system?
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:00:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:00:52 PM EDT
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Will all the Aimless jokes and memes have to stop?
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:00:54 PM EDT
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I am willing to work with them. Hope it works out.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:01:22 PM EDT
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So, is it just like the gypsy woman said?
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:01:31 PM EDT
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Agree it all sounds good in theory. As long as the line between insults and humor is clearly defined because both are highly subjective and if it's up to mod interpretation that can be iffy. Doesn't really affect me as I'm no good at either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sounds like they are looking for Consistency. I am a fan of Consistency. As long as the line between insults and humor is clearly defined because both are highly subjective and if it's up to mod interpretation that can be iffy. Doesn't really affect me as I'm no good at either. As it is now the line is broad and is never completely straight and true, whipping like a ribbon in a wind storm. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:01:51 PM EDT
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Anyone who thinks that this happened after goatboys meeting with our new corporate overlords and this has nothing to do with new ownership has their head in the sand. Once anything corporate happens and their legal teams and insurance starts digging changes will come. The fact that the first sentence in the announcement states that this has nothing to do with Brownells is just projecting. 
So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:02:10 PM EDT
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Old infractions needs to drop off after a certain amount of time. Otherwise, long time members are penalized for warnings and time outs they received many years ago “HE HAD A LONG LIST OF INFRACTIONS” Yeah, for mostly small shit. Over the span of 10-15 years. That says as much about their longevity and commitment to the site as it does about behavior. Not implementing something like this will only contribute to eliminating longstanding members. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:03:07 PM EDT
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So don't talk bad about brownells... because they have nothing to do with this and just keep their name outta your mouth. Got it!
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:03:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now we have to behave like there's always brass sitting in the cruiser/truck with us
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:03:37 PM EDT
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as long as "trolling" can be defined, I am good with it. Fact. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:03:58 PM EDT
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Will all the Aimless jokes and memes have to stop? https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shock.gif As a matter of fact I am due for one.... 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:04:10 PM EDT
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Will all the Aimless jokes and memes have to stop? https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shock.gif |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:04:19 PM EDT
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Honestly.
Black Ops filtered out A LOT of retards and tinfoilers. It’s time to Black Ops this bitch again. Every fucking thing is a conspiracy now. Shooting at a garlic festival, “which democrat is in trouble...” “False flag!!!!!” REEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:04:33 PM EDT
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If you're not here to be an asshole, this isn't going to have a massive impact. Defining and restricting trolling is probably going to be the most significant thing but it won't be some kind of board-crushing bloodbath.
Follow the rules and understand that the days of members intentionally shitting up the place for their own entertainment are drawing to a close. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:04:35 PM EDT
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Will all the Aimless jokes and memes have to stop? https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shock.gif |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:04:40 PM EDT
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This thread is hilarious. People are going off the rails with virtually no information and are so completely wrong. One of two things is happening: 1) We are bowing to our Brownell overlords contrary to everything that we've been saying and are prepared to completety change Arfcom into some mindless corporate entity and every staff member has been lying to you; or 2) It's just like TBS has stated in that thread and we're on one of our periodic quests to try to clean up/improve GD. Everyone put on your big boy pants and play the "what is more likely" game using your critical reasoning skills. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:04:43 PM EDT
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And we need a non-public "purgatory" section, where people doing ban worthy stuff are tossed temporarily or forever, based on their conduct and contrition level. That way, they are quarantined from GD but others who like their style can still interact with them.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNope. Just gonna start some new ones <<<<<<<is this the appropriate emoticon. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:05:44 PM EDT
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So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:06:04 PM EDT
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"2. Trolling. we will be formally defining it and strictly enforcing it. If you are here to disrupt the site those days are numbered. "
I hope this is in direct reference to obvious anti-2a posts and poster's used for bait. I hope this is not used to address members calling out those posts. This is "AR-15.com". It's not like leftists trolls don't know what they are stepping in. The Garlic festival shooting thread went full downward spiral because of this. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You may have seen me around and you may have come to a conclusion about my trustworthiness and honesty over the years and use that as a guide to determine the veracity of this statement: *I* am telling you that this is not at the behest of Brownell's. I am putting my personal reputation on the line. Either I am a bald-faced liar or I'm telling the truth. You decide. I can't help you any further than that. We're not really known for that. Count yourself lucky, no one has tied this decision to Soros, bigfoot, or the deep state...yet. I think site staff should count this thread as a total win. I like you fine Zhuk, why you gotta be like that?
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:06:47 PM EDT
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So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope topics get moved to the right forum. Got a build question? Move that thread to the armory. Jesus is awesome! Cool story, thread moved to the religion forum. I've been around since 01' and this site has gone way downhill. Before anyone asks, I've been sent overseas a few times and over almost 20 years I never remember my logins after going away for months at a time and I just start a new account. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:07:29 PM EDT
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There is going to naturally be skepticism on this due to the timing. Whether there is a Brownells-led purge going on or this is just a big misunderstanding, the change of ownership followed almost immediately to changes to GD just looks bad, whether there’s any substance or not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? But there’s a difference between skepticism and questions, and overtly calling TBS (and the rest of Site Staff) liars. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:07:30 PM EDT
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So don't talk bad about brownells... because they have nothing to do with this and just keep their name outta your mouth. Got it! 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:07:40 PM EDT
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So the site attempting to improve moderation, setting up a better appeals process for those who get in trouble, and attempt to better control the commies and trolls is a bad thing? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone who has been here long enough knows this website has been going downhill for a while now. I'm sure this new Brownells COC will just be another step in the wrong direction. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:07:49 PM EDT
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Those will be a requirement. 1 out of every 8.7 posts has to be an Aimless joke/meme As a matter of fact I am due for one.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/175289/33yi32-986957.gif Quoted:
They'll be grandfathered in. Quoted: I'm pushing to make it a requirement. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:08:01 PM EDT
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So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:08:55 PM EDT
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As long as you put a https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif at the end of the post your good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wonder if this means I can't post Rogueboss meme's anymore? Ive got a great new one I haven't had a good opportunity to use yet.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/333874/BBC-969068.jpg |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:09:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:09:21 PM EDT
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If you're not here to be an asshole, this isn't going to have a massive impact. Defining and restricting trolling is probably going to be the most significant thing but it won't be some kind of board-crushing bloodbath. Follow the rules and understand that the days of members intentionally shitting up the place for their own entertainment are drawing to a close. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:09:53 PM EDT
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So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone who thinks that this happened after goatboys meeting with our new corporate overlords and this has nothing to do with new ownership has their head in the sand. Once anything corporate happens and their legal teams and insurance starts digging changes will come. The fact that the first sentence in the announcement states that this has nothing to do with Brownells is just projecting.
So every single member of Site Staff is just lying to everyone? Can you come up with any explanation for WHY in the world we would do that? |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:10:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because REASONS! We have no personal integrity. We are mindless automatons under control of Brownell's master mind. 
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:10:45 PM EDT
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-This thread has been 100% ABSOLUTELY NOT IN ANY WAY been brought to you by Brownells.
*in fact, it’s so not brought to you by Brownells we need to remind you of that any time the subject of moderation is brought up in GD, and preemptively AT THE VERY TOP of these updated rules that are implemented after their recent acquisition. lol |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:10:46 PM EDT
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This is worrisome. We seem to be regularly changing site conduct standards and replacing a limited number of rules with increased subjectivity backed up by an "appeals" process because of the subjectivity involved. Does not bode well for the future, comrade.
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:10:58 PM EDT
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Posted this in another thread about this, but since this one has staff...
An idea for “breaking” threads (shootings/natural disasters/etc) The site really needs to keep these event threads on topic better. Have a “event” thread for actual info and a separate thread for the idiots to argue. |
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Posted: 7/30/2019 12:11:05 PM EDT
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This thread is hilarious. People are going off the rails with virtually no information and are so completely wrong. One of two things is happening: 1) We are bowing to our Brownell overlords contrary to everything that we've been saying and are prepared to completety change Arfcom into some mindless corporate entity and every staff member has been lying to you; or 2) It's just like TBS has stated in that thread and we're on one of our periodic quests to try to clean up/improve GD. Everyone put on your big boy pants and play the "what is more likely" game using your critical reasoning skills. |
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