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Posted: 7/31/2012 12:30:14 PM EDT

Flame suit on.

Yes, ironic screen name is ironic.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:30:49 PM EDT

[#1]

No.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:32:01 PM EDT

[#2]

Do you

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:32:14 PM EDT

[#3]

No.

And if it is, then I have too many of the darn things.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:32:15 PM EDT

[#4]

In certain circles, all pistol rounds are overrated in terms of "stopping power" (quotes added for emphasis).

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:32:32 PM EDT

[#5]

Just hold a .45 acp next to a 9mm round and draw your own conclusions. Same thing with a .223 next to a .308.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:32:43 PM EDT

[#6]

There is a lot of myth and hype surrounding it, but it is an effective cartridge.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:33:20 PM EDT

[#7]

Over-rated how?

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:33:32 PM EDT

[#8]

You ever been shot with one?

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:33:58 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
In certain circles, all pistol rounds are overrated in terms of "stopping power" (quotes added for emphasis).

this!

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:34:11 PM EDT

[#10]

No, and where is the pole.

I predict 70+% say NO.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:34:35 PM EDT

[#11]

I aint seen it bounce off anyone yet.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:35:10 PM EDT

[#12]

Funny you'd ask with a handle like yours?

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:35:26 PM EDT

[#13]

No, but I do think 9MM's are underrated.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:35:26 PM EDT

[#14]

Meh, all pistol rounds are shitty at killing people.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:36:27 PM EDT

[#15]

In certain circles it is. I think I value it correctly. An effective round that has its limitations but a good choice for CCW against opponents without armor.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:37:22 PM EDT

[#16]

I should clarify that I think it's overrated compared to the 9mm. It may be slightly more effective, but I think that amount is grossly exaggerated. I think the 9mm has more advantages than disadvantages against the .45ACP, especially for CCW.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:38:04 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
No.

1st post wins all the internets for the day!

BigDozer66

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:39:10 PM EDT

[#18]

most handgun rounds suck anyway. I will take more suck than less suck though, so 16 rounds of 9mm for me.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:39:19 PM EDT

[#19]

No....

Thread can be closed now and you can sleep better

camaro

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:39:31 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
You ever been shot with one?

I bounced one off of my forearm after shooting into a log once. Does that count?

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:40:47 PM EDT

[#21]

The only people I recall questioning it's rating or effectiveness were net ninjas.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:41:00 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
I aint seen it bounce off anyone yet.

One bounced off our armorer's skull.

But it was more a matter of poor shot placement.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:41:58 PM EDT

[#23]

the US Marines are placing a 22 million dollar order for 1911s

coming back home at last

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:42:03 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
No.

1st post wins all the internets for the day!

BigDozer66

+1

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:43:03 PM EDT

[#25]

No, absolutely not .

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:43:53 PM EDT

[#26]

Nope.

I just wish Glock made a G19-sized pistol in .45 ACP.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:44:20 PM EDT

[#27]

Millions of dead germans and japs can't be wrong!

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:44:28 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Nope.

I just wish Glock made a G19-sized pistol in .45 ACP.

G36?

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:45:28 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Meh, all pistol rounds are shitty at killing people.

Some are shittier than others.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:46:17 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Nope.

I just wish Glock made a G19-sized pistol in .45 ACP.

G36?

G36 = smaller than G19

camaro

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:46:27 PM EDT

[#31]

To a certain extent, yes. As a result of modern hollowpoint bullet technology, the smaller calibers such as 9mm and 40 S&W have definitely caught up a lot of ground.

I am a big fan of the .45acp. However, I also carry a 9mm with Federal HST ammo and do not feel undergunned.

Personally, I not want to be shot with either, but acknowledge that with modern hollowpoints such as Win Ranger, Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, the differences are slight.

With hardball aka FMJ, bigger is definitely better.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:47:20 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Nope.

I just wish Glock made a G19-sized pistol in .45 ACP.

G36?

Needs a bit longer grip and barrel. I like mine, but wish it was a bit bigger. Think Commander sized.

Coincidently I own several Commanders as well.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:47:26 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
Nope.

I just wish Glock made a G19-sized pistol in .45 ACP.

Not sure if serious.......

G36 is almost identical in size. Round count is kind of low, but I still carry it with confidence.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:47:45 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Nope.

I just wish Glock made a G19-sized pistol in .45 ACP.

me too.. I have a 36 now and it's pretty close

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:48:02 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Meh, all pistol rounds are shitty at killing people.

Some are shittier than others.

Not in the service caliber world.

They are pretty much all the same.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:48:04 PM EDT

[#36]

Anyone else think the .45ACP is overrated?

You go to hell.

Go to hell and die.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:48:20 PM EDT

[#37]

It is certainly overrated.

During my time at CTD I saw more ignorant comments about .45acp than all other calibers combined. The one that always comes to mind was the guy who said he didn't need to buy mags for his 1911 because he just kept a round chambered and the gun cocked and locked. Since he never misses and the .45acp always knocks them down immediately, he felt no need to even put a magazine in his carry gun.

That's not a statement about the .45 as much as a statement about rabid fans of the .45.

Meanwhile, back in reality, I know of a negligent discharge at a place of employment, in a cubicle environment, where the round failed to penetrate the metal wall of the cubicle, perhaps saving a life. I guess that's a high quality cubicle, but if a thin sheet of pot metal is cover and not concealment we should probably be re-assessing the almighty wonders of the cartridge.

PS Pat Rogers is shooting 9mm now. Just sayin'.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:48:56 PM EDT

[#38]

No.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:49:49 PM EDT

[#39]

nope....I think it's underrated

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:50:20 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:
Just hold a .45 acp next to a 9mm round and draw your own conclusions. Same thing with a .223 next to a .308.

You mean like this?

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:51:32 PM EDT

[#41]

NO

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:52:47 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just hold a .45 acp next to a 9mm round and draw your own conclusions. Same thing with a .223 next to a .308.

You mean like this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/matt.mccall/9mmvs40vs45.gif

Let's just forget the idea that 230 grains is twice as massive as 115 grains.

Yeah.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:53:43 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
It is certainly overrated.

During my time at CTD I saw more ignorant comments about .45acp than all other calibers combined. The one that always comes to mind was the guy who said he didn't need to buy mags for his 1911 because he just kept a round chambered and the gun cocked and locked. Since he never misses and the .45acp always knocks them down immediately, he felt no need to even put a magazine in his carry gun.

That's not a statement about the .45 as much as a statement about rabid fans of the .45.

Meanwhile, back in reality, I know of a negligent discharge at a place of employment, in a cubicle environment, where the round failed to penetrate the metal wall of the cubicle, perhaps saving a life. I guess that's a high quality cubicle, but if a thin sheet of pot metal is cover and not concealment we should probably be re-assessing the almighty wonders of the cartridge.

PS Pat Rogers is shooting 9mm now. Just sayin'.

Pat will also tell you part of the reason is that he is a little older and the 9 pounds you less when you shoot a lot......

Alvin York thought the .45 was adequate.....Good enough for me....

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:54:56 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just hold a .45 acp next to a 9mm round and draw your own conclusions. Same thing with a .223 next to a .308.

You mean like this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/matt.mccall/9mmvs40vs45.gif

No, I meant physically holding the actual rounds of ammo next to each other (what you posted is not what I described). If 9mm is good, imagine what a round that looks to be twice the size and twice as heavy can do.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:55:14 PM EDT

[#45]

IBTP!

I would vote yes.

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Posted: 7/31/2012 12:55:17 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Just hold a .45 acp next to a 9mm round and draw your own conclusions. Same thing with a .223 next to a .308.

You mean like this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/matt.mccall/9mmvs40vs45.gif

and a 400 FPS difference to boot.

Posted: 7/31/2012 12:55:43 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It is certainly overrated.

During my time at CTD I saw more ignorant comments about .45acp than all other calibers combined. The one that always comes to mind was the guy who said he didn't need to buy mags for his 1911 because he just kept a round chambered and the gun cocked and locked. Since he never misses and the .45acp always knocks them down immediately, he felt no need to even put a magazine in his carry gun.

That's not a statement about the .45 as much as a statement about rabid fans of the .45.

Meanwhile, back in reality, I know of a negligent discharge at a place of employment, in a cubicle environment, where the round failed to penetrate the metal wall of the cubicle, perhaps saving a life. I guess that's a high quality cubicle, but if a thin sheet of pot metal is cover and not concealment we should probably be re-assessing the almighty wonders of the cartridge.

PS Pat Rogers is shooting 9mm now. Just sayin'.

Pat will also tell you part of the reason is that he is a little older and the 9 pounds you less when you shoot a lot......

Alvin York thought the .45 was adequate.....Good enough for me....

Even Bob the Nailer went over to the .38 Super for the same reason.