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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:52:49 PM EST
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Coming next from Troy Industries, a new distribution manager who's great at opening up southern markets!
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:55:02 PM EST
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Not much needs to be said, really. I find no evidence anywhere to point to Mr. Monroe having had a change of heart with respect to constitutionality of the second shot or ROE. Nowhere have I seen him on record about the lessons learned from the tragedy, other than saying chiefly the following: 1: He concentrated only on armed males and did not fire because he did not have a clear shot. 2: He considered the ROE to be a green light to shoot armed males on sight. 3: He believed the second shot was constitutional. Unless evidence to the contrary is proven, I can only assume that he has been promulgating flawed "lessons learned" for the last 20 years. Troy has done nothing to reassure me that he is preventing another tragedy by giving him a paid position as an official representative of the company. I made the following comment late this morning in another thread: Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not much needs to be said, really. I find no evidence anywhere to point to Mr. Monroe having had a change of heart with respect to constitutionality of the second shot or ROE. Nowhere have I seen him on record about the lessons learned from the tragedy, other than saying chiefly the following: 1: He concentrated only on armed males and did not fire because he did not have a clear shot. 2: He considered the ROE to be a green light to shoot armed males on sight. 3: He believed the second shot was constitutional. Unless evidence to the contrary is proven, I can only assume that he has been promulgating flawed "lessons learned" for the last 20 years. Troy has done nothing to reassure me that he is preventing another tragedy by giving him a paid position as an official representative of the company. I made the following comment late this morning in another thread: Someone is locked in an office right now, doing a risk-benefit matrix. Potential lost consumer sales on one side. On the other: potential lost government contracts and expenses related to severing a trainer's contract. I have too little faith in them, especially after their "you don't understand dynamic situations" claim, to believe it will come down to anything other than finances. Color me cynical, but I think they are going to with the lucrative training revenue stream. They hired these guys for halo branding and networking. I think they knew exactly what was on their resumes, and wanted to monetize it. And that is a great summarization. Money > Freedom and the Law We are recalling 2 pieces of shit here in CO. This is the first time in the history of the state this has been done, and it is entirely a grassroots effort. It now seems there is an entity in MA that needs a "recall". It can be done. ETA - Don't forget Smith, Ruger, and everyone else that uses this "person's" gear. ETA2 - What is Arfcom management's position on this? Is the enemy now welcome here because of money? |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:55:16 PM EST
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how the fuck did i miss this htread
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:56:03 PM EST
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So that troy sight on my noveske I've had for years? Its meeting mr sledge when I'm home.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:56:50 PM EST
[#5]
And the hole get's deeper....
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:56:57 PM EST
[#6]
And then Troy's getting a new sales manager who's not afraid to "scramble a few eggs" to get the job done!
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:59:09 PM EST
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So that troy sight on my noveske I've had for years? Its meeting mr sledge when I'm home. Somebody here already did that with some mags. On principle, very understandable, but ultimately it's your own gear, and it's pre-Monroe stuff. Might want to hang onto it for another reason, too. Remember the whole ARMS/Larue thing? Worked out well for those who hung onto their ARMS shit when Larue offered to replace it for free. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 3:59:30 PM EST
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:01:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryDisgusting. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:01:54 PM EST
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-Troygirl-
A woman holding a weapon. What would Monroe have to say about that? |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:02:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryTroy must have given me the ghey, I can't even fap to that. 
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:03:41 PM EST
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With the latest FB post, they are dead to me. Once a JBT, always a JBT.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:03:49 PM EST
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She's cute, but please delete your post. It's an informative thread, and you're going to get it locked by posting non-COC compliant pic. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:10:44 PM EST
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http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/TeufelTexan/ARF/Untitled_zpsd1965042.png ETA: I just posted the screen cap, I'm NOT validating their opinion. I'm actually saddened by this, I hoped Troy would see the light in the end. However, based on my own insight into the events - as well as the evidence now available, I regret to say that I am no longer a Troy customer. I thought long and hard to avoid a "knee-jerk" reaction to what might have been chaff in the wind, but I think I've reached that point. It's a shame really... Ain't that some shit. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:11:00 PM EST
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WOW! I'm stunned at their response. Troy can FOAD. Wow
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:11:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's cute, but please delete your post It's an informative thread, and you're going to get it locked by posting non-COC compliant pic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She's cute, but please delete your post It's an informative thread, and you're going to get it locked by posting non-COC compliant pic. eta: damn i just got their 3 pack battle mags too - it seems flimsier than others.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:19:08 PM EST
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Got the aim email..they're blowing out Troy mags at $9 per. The were 12 a couple of weeks ago. I think they're rightly trying to get in front of the ground swell backlash that's coming.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:20:42 PM EST
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Got the aim email..they're blowing out Troy mags at $9 per. The were 12 a couple of weeks ago. I think they're rightly trying to get in front of the ground swell backlash that's coming. Aim was selling those a week or so ago. [tinfoil]Unless Troy planned this.[/tinfoil] |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:29:23 PM EST
[#19]
The FB post is just full of all kinds of
. Troy has received my last dollar.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:31:17 PM EST
[#20]
Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:33:39 PM EST
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:34:23 PM EST
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Aim was selling those a week or so ago. [tinfoil]Unless Troy planned this.[/tinfoil] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got the aim email..they're blowing out Troy mags at $9 per. The were 12 a couple of weeks ago. I think they're rightly trying to get in front of the ground swell backlash that's coming. Aim was selling those a week or so ago. [tinfoil]Unless Troy planned this.[/tinfoil] I don't think they planned this, but they clearly aren't too worried., They likely had branched into training as a way of diversifying and insulating against fickle retail sales. They weathered the Dick's fiasco, which ultimately probably affected their bottom line much more than this episode. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:34:31 PM EST
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Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. Good God, you have to be a troll. There is no way youre this stupid...no way. I say youre brilliant, a brilliant fucking troll that has everyone convinced youre a total retard. Well played assho....I mean sir. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:35:17 PM EST
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Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. Good thing you're still on their side, they need the customers. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:35:46 PM EST
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Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. You ever see those movies where a bully's lap dog sticks his tongue out at others, as long as he's safely backed by the big guy? You're the lap dog. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:41:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember the whole ARMS/Larue thing? Worked out well for those who hung onto their ARMS shit when Larue offered to replace it for free. I remember reading about that at the time and being like, "No way would someone give me a LaRue mount for my shitty ARMS mount."  I missed that boat. I've still got that shitty ARMS mount too. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:44:41 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:44:48 PM EST
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Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. I'm retired LE, and the oath I took means just as much today as it did 25 years ago. They don't have my support, nor will they have the support of any other Constitutionally-aware cop I've ever known. They might be supported by CLEOs of the usual sort, and cockthrottling statists. YMMV, of course. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:45:09 PM EST
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You ever see those movies where a bully's lap dog sticks his tongue out at others, as long as he's safely backed by the big guy? You're the lap dog. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. You ever see those movies where a bully's lap dog sticks his tongue out at others, as long as he's safely backed by the big guy? You're the lap dog. 
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:46:48 PM EST
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Glad to see the adults in the room didn't listen to the whining of petulant children. Good for Troy. They will have a solid training staff with LE support after thw GWOT winds down. I think I hear your mom calling you for dinner. Go wash up, its adult time in here... |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:49:01 PM EST
[#31]
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So that troy sight on my noveske I've had for years? Its meeting mr sledge when I'm home. At the very least, sell it used and prevent someone from buying new. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:50:08 PM EST
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Pretty sure the GWOT is like the WOD in that it will not be winding down any time soon.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:51:12 PM EST
[#33]
Troy mags look fairly easy to break. I bet the company is not much tougher.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:51:13 PM EST
[#34]
Good for them. Let the market decide. My money will go elsewhere.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 4:55:15 PM EST
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eta: damn i just got their 3 pack battle mags too - it seems flimsier than others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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She's cute, but please delete your post It's an informative thread, and you're going to get it locked by posting non-COC compliant pic.
eta: damn i just got their 3 pack battle mags too - it seems flimsier than others. Evidently the secret ingredient to their polymer formula is AIDs and fail with facism binder. These mags were endorsed by JBT Nazis everywhere. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 5:04:18 PM EST
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Posted: 8/23/2013 5:05:16 PM EST
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Bump for more exposure
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Posted: 8/23/2013 5:22:57 PM EST
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Well, there goes my Troy rail and sights. I'll be passing this on to everyone I know. The LEO friend I recommended the Troy rail to is gonna be pissed when he finds out he has to take it off of his patrol rifle. No worries, that new MI rail will take it's place just fine. Now if Magpul will just hurry up with their new sights.
For the record, I have one rail and a pair of sights from Troy. I planned on at least two more rails and two more pairs of sights in the near future for an SPR and 300 Blackout build. My dad just went with the new MI rail for his build on my recommendation due to Troy's actions. I can't believe a company in such high standing would go so full retard like this. Fuck you Troy. We need to urge site sponsors to stop carrying Troy products. 
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Posted: 8/23/2013 5:29:18 PM EST
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Please everyone, just ignore the JBTrolls. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 6:12:51 PM EST
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The last FB post is the final middle finger response. I guess they have chosen to go with .Gov.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 6:24:14 PM EST
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The last FB post is the final middle finger response. I guess they have chosen to go with .Gov. What did they say on FB? I don't use FB at all. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 6:25:01 PM EST
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What did they say on FB? I don't use FB at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The last FB post is the final middle finger response. I guess they have chosen to go with .Gov. What did they say on FB? I don't use FB at all. 
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Posted: 8/23/2013 6:26:03 PM EST
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What did they say on FB? I don't use FB at all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The last FB post is the final middle finger response. I guess they have chosen to go with .Gov. What did they say on FB? I don't use FB at all. A screencap was put up on the last page. For you & other readers who missed it on page 19: 
ETA: Beat by a minute. |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 6:27:48 PM EST
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The last FB post is the final middle finger response. I guess they have chosen to go with .Gov. Now we'll see how wide a reach arfcom has. 
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Posted: 8/23/2013 6:48:51 PM EST
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As of this post I no longer have any Troy gear, unless I find some more buried in a parts box or something.
Anyone want to buy a Troy challenge coin? It might make a nice bulls-eye.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 7:00:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last FB post is the final middle finger response. I guess they have chosen to go with .Gov. That's the way I look at it too |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 7:07:00 PM EST
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Troy Industries.
Troy was the city invaded by the Trojans, right? They sent in the 'Trojan horse' and made the place famous. Troy industries...an ironic name. Either they want to invite the pain onto themselves and hire these guys, who worked to destroy our society from within, or they are simply star-fuckers who hoped that a famous name would be bring them accolades? I'm torn on the irony of this all. Because, Trojans are also famous condoms. Either way, Troy is fucked. Jim Zumbo is laughing and keeping his mouth shut all at the same time. TRG |
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Posted: 8/23/2013 7:14:40 PM EST
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Meet Troy's new shotgun instructor:
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Posted: 8/23/2013 7:30:39 PM EST
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There are many other manufacturers out there, and they will be getting my money.
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Posted: 8/23/2013 7:35:49 PM EST
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As of this post I no longer have any Troy gear, unless I find some more buried in a parts box or something. Anyone want to buy a Troy challenge coin? It might make a nice bulls-eye. Melt it down into something more useful, like a chunk of slag. |
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