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Posted: 4/3/2018 5:40:47 PM EST
I cant help but wonder.  You see pictures of active shooter situations and all the SWAT guys are always decked out in multicam, etc.  Are they wearing that shit all day everyday just waiting or do they change out into their ACUs en-route?  Is there a member of the team assigned the "designated driver" role, so everyone has time to assemble their ACUs with matching combat boots, multicam plate carriers, and multicam helmet covers?

Curious minds just have to know!

Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:41:59 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:42:35 PM EST
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Multicam Black yo!
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:44:07 PM EST
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Or maybe they wear their ACUs under their Po Po uniform all day like Superman???
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:44:24 PM EST
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they aren't wearing it all day, they change before or en route.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:44:57 PM EST
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they don't do that either
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:45:25 PM EST
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Ours doesn’t. They stay covered in acorn crumbs.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:46:05 PM EST
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I blame Call of Duty
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:46:09 PM EST
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Atacs or get rekt yo
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:46:21 PM EST
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Which brings up a good point, why do we not see more SWAT officers with rope!  You never know when you might need rope!!!

Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:47:16 PM EST
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
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Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:49:54 PM EST
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Boot camp rejects??
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:50:49 PM EST
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I see more black and olive drab in news stories.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:51:06 PM EST
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Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
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Because that's the uniform.  If on duty and able respond to a call out, then regular uniform is GTG.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:51:13 PM EST
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Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
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Appearances. It's not hard to throw on a plate carrier, helmet, and comms in very short order.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:51:49 PM EST
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they aren't wearing it all day, they change before or en route.
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But wouldn't that slow the response?  I can see throwing on your plate carrier, helmet, drop leg holster (just because, right!), etc.  But to change your shirt and pants, you have to take off your current shoes, take off your shirt, your pants, then put on another shirt/pants/boots before you can start adding the important stuff that I already mentioned above.

Just seems like a timewaster.  Instead of focusing on getting there and processsing incoming intel, instead everyone is like a tacti-tard at their first USPSA match, making sure they look cool for the big day.

Maybe PDs should start doing some Lean 6 Sigma training on how to monopolize their time better on SWAT.  
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:51:53 PM EST
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The SWAT officer who took down one of the shooters in the N. Hollywood bank robbery was wearing shorts and a polo shirt.  He run what he brung.

Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:52:30 PM EST
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Appearances. It's not hard to throw on a plate carrier, helmet, and comms in very short order.
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Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
Appearances. It's not hard to throw on a plate carrier, helmet, and comms in very short order.
Plate carrier, helmet, and comms are a necessity

But the Multicam is just to look more tactical?
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:54:05 PM EST
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:54:58 PM EST
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If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
Green or black looks good

Multicam just looks ridiculous IMO

My SHTF gear is all green
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:56:08 PM EST
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Those usually aren't first response guys on the scene.  A patrolman will throw a pc on and a rifle and go.  These guys will relieve that guy within a short amount of time.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:56:27 PM EST
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Rule #1
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If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
And that's pretty much my point.  It would seem faster to just don the extra SWAT gear over your current clothing then to have to change pants/shirt as well.  If expediency is the goal, I would think it'd slow down the response to have to change pants/shirt.

And theres nothing wrong with rocking the ol OD Green Vietnam era look.  
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:57:19 PM EST
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How else will you blend into the parking garage, dumpster, and office park if you AREN'T wearing multicam? I mean you can't just roll up in a giant MRAP surrounded by squad cars and flashing lights and NOT blend into the shrubbery.

The more you know!
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:57:44 PM EST
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Green or black looks good

Multicam just looks ridiculous IMO

My SHTF gear is all green
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
Green or black looks good

Multicam just looks ridiculous IMO

My SHTF gear is all green
I agree and mine is, too. I do like black multicam though
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 5:59:17 PM EST
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My team is solid green
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:00:20 PM EST
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Mutlicam was for civilians before the military started using it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:01:00 PM EST
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I agree and mine is, too. I do like black multicam though
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
Green or black looks good

Multicam just looks ridiculous IMO

My SHTF gear is all green
I agree and mine is, too. I do like black multicam though
I want black multicam now
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:02:26 PM EST
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And that's pretty much my point.  It would seem faster to just don the extra SWAT gear over your current clothing then to have to change pants/shirt as well.  If expediency is the goal, I would think it'd slow down the response to have to change pants/shirt.

And theres nothing wrong with rocking the ol OD Green Vietnam era look.  
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Most teams like this are an ERT or a strike team, not so much swat.. All this gear is staged and ready to go. They will practice and drill over and over and can be geared up AND on site in a very short period of time.    Others have their gear on the rig and dress suit up on the drive over.

You would be surprised how quickly you can dress and gear up when you practice over and over to do it.
Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
If I'm working my regular shift, that's what I do. Our crap is all green though.
And that's pretty much my point.  It would seem faster to just don the extra SWAT gear over your current clothing then to have to change pants/shirt as well.  If expediency is the goal, I would think it'd slow down the response to have to change pants/shirt.

And theres nothing wrong with rocking the ol OD Green Vietnam era look.  
I'd say when we respond some where, at least 2-3 of us are in patrol uniform or slacks and button down shirts (CID guys). If the operation is a preplanned, butt ass early in the morning operation, we will all be in our greens. Dudes that are responding from home will be in greens 100% of the time.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:06:54 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:08:52 PM EST
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Locals here use Marpat
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:09:53 PM EST
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A department that I am familiar with still wears that exact uniform. Progress won't sneak up on them.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:11:59 PM EST
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I'd say when we respond some where, at least 2-3 of us are in patrol uniform or slacks and button down shirts (CID guys). If the operation is a preplanned, butt ass early in the morning operation, we will all be in our greens. Dudes that are responding from home will be in greens 100% of the time.
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Makes complete sense if its a preplanned operation because you own the entire operation, which means you can of course decide the timeline as well.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:15:04 PM EST
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Crye Precision brah...

It helps with operational security if you have a specific pattern or color that can't be easily duplicated by some jack leg.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:16:48 PM EST
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Most agencies cannot afford a full-time SWAT team, sitting around waiting for "the call".

Typically, SWAT, like Bomb Squad, etc are secondary duties to a primary job like Patrol, Detective, etc.

Most guys change clothes at their trunks while Patrol holds the perimeter.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:17:37 PM EST
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You'd think they'd go with Urban grey colors or something.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:18:49 PM EST
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I always wonder why so many SWAT teams choose Multicam. It looks like clown shoes in a urban setting.

Should stick with black or grey colors.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:19:40 PM EST
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Roger moore was a skyscraper grappling doorkicker?
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Crye Precision brah...

It helps with operational security if you have a specific pattern or color that can't be easily duplicated by some jack leg.
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Ahh yes, Crye Precision...  You are definitely not operationally operating without Crye.  I always loved going to big National 3GUN matches and seeing all the fat dudes sporting their 3XL Crye Precision pants.  Cant run, gasping for air while loading their shotgun at the shotgun loading table, but dammit, I look fucking awesome in my Crye multicam with removable kneepads!
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:24:17 PM EST
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Ahh yes, Crye Precision...  You are definitely not operationally operating without Crye.  I always loved going to big National 3GUN matches and seeing all the fat dudes sporting their 3XL Crye Precision pants.  Cant run, gasping for air while loading their shotgun at the shotgun loading table, but dammit, I look fucking awesome in my Crye multicam with removable kneepads!
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I love my Crye JPC carrier
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:24:20 PM EST
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The SWAT officer who took down one of the shooters in the N. Hollywood bank robbery was wearing shorts and a polo shirt.  He run what he brung.

https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/noho.jpg?quality=85&strip=all
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Lesson learned: Don't fuck with the guy in Short-shorts.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:26:04 PM EST
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Ahh yes, Crye Precision...  You are definitely not operationally operating without Crye.  I always loved going to big National 3GUN matches and seeing all the fat dudes sporting their 3XL Crye Precision pants.  Cant run, gasping for air while loading their shotgun at the shotgun loading table, but dammit, I look fucking awesome in my Crye multicam with removable kneepads!
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Fear NOT citizen! I'm from the internet!

Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:27:37 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:28:22 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:28:36 PM EST
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Everyone likes to dress up and play Army.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:29:18 PM EST
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SWAT=neckbeards of law enforcement?? question not statement.  I have noticed all their fancy shit when they show up, after everything goes down, or they are finished taking out a perp with a knife or a pistol with their military weapons and body armor.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:31:57 PM EST
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Plate carrier, helmet, and comms are a necessity

But the Multicam is just to look more tactical?
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Why not just throw a plate carrier over their uniform and grab an AR?

Why the need to get decked all up in multicam pants, boots, and shirt?
Appearances. It's not hard to throw on a plate carrier, helmet, and comms in very short order.
Plate carrier, helmet, and comms are a necessity

But the Multicam is just to look more tactical?
Ever play on a basketball team?  Identify friend or foe by uniform?

Same thing except they pass the bullets

Just wait until some nut jobs with a couple more brain cells than usual get into a fight with them while wearing cammies too.  They won’t ban cammies quick enough.
Link Posted: 4/3/2018 6:32:15 PM EST
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