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Posted: 8/3/2022 6:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get that kinda crap from California almost every election cycle and I haven’t lived there since 2010. It always makes me wonder. Of course it's to get scam votes. Someone moves out, still gets those. I bet there's lots of elderly folks who would take advantage of that, not to mention true loyal democrats who will vote both in California and in their current home state. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 8:28:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you see Robson starting to party? Giving the we are winning big speech? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quite a swing in votes for Lake from last night. She was behind around 10% points the last I looked. Looks like the only potential obstacle is ~18% of the vote remaining for Maricopa County, but it's tight. She's winning everywhere else. She then said to wait and see. Did you see Robson starting to party? Giving the we are winning big speech? Apparently, there will be a ballot drop at 7:00pm AZ time. Supposedly, there are over 100k mail-in and provisional ballots to be counted. Isn't Hobbs in charge of the electoral commission? Still a 4% lead for Lake. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 10:47:19 PM EDT
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Any updates?
Have they stopped counting yet? |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 11:05:56 PM EDT
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Land of the free, home of the brave = electoral shenanigans
Very sad 
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Posted: 8/3/2022 11:06:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2022 4:40:36 AM EDT
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Funny how the voting process always breaks down when the "wrong" person is in the lead.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 5:13:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2022 5:20:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And it hasn’t changed since I posted at 2006. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/36B8F77D-B811-4E27-A58A-12F5F9D0F5AB_jpe-2476496.JPG Do you have a link to the site giving the updates? Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 5:23:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny how the voting process always breaks down when the "wrong" person is in the lead. Everytime. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 6:00:53 AM EDT
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So wtf is going on now?
No fuckin way Swamp creature pulled ahead. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 6:03:59 AM EDT
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Fraud seems like what is going on to the ever more experienced observer.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 7:41:15 AM EDT
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Up until around ten years ago or so, our town had "voting machines," where you went in behind a curtain and flipped mechanical levers. No more than 20-30 minutes after the polls closed, everybody knew the results.
Yet today, with computer technology, there are so many fucking glitches, errors, and "abnormalities," the only thing that makes sense is these systems have some sort of feature that allows manipulation if the situation (ie, the "wrong" candidate seems to be too close to winning) calls for it, and that feature makes the system more unreliable than it would be otherwise. In 2022, there is no innocent rationalization for these types of problems. There just isn't. We should go back to fucking paper ballots counted by multiple poll workers from different parties. Or those antiquated mechanical voting machines. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 7:45:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Up until around ten years ago or so, our town had "voting machines," where you went in behind a curtain and flipped mechanical levers. No more than 20-30 minutes after the polls closed, everybody knew the results. Yet today, with computer technology, there are so many fucking glitches, errors, and "abnormalities," the only thing that makes sense is these systems have some sort of feature that allows manipulation if the situation (ie, the "wrong" candidate seems to be too close to winning) calls for it, and that feature makes the system more unreliable than it would be otherwise. In 2022, there is no innocent rationalization for these types of problems. There just isn't. We should go back to fucking paper ballots counted by multiple poll workers from different parties. Or those antiquated mechanical voting machines. Thank Florida chads. Edit- The fact that they don't have "µm" level scanners that can accurately detect a certain margin of error is so disingenuous. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 7:52:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a link to the site giving the updates? Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And it hasn’t changed since I posted at 2006. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/36B8F77D-B811-4E27-A58A-12F5F9D0F5AB_jpe-2476496.JPG Do you have a link to the site giving the updates? Thanks. https://www.azcentral.com/elections/results/race/2022-08-02-governor-R-AZ-3015/ |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:00:23 AM EDT
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Maricopa has proven itself to be incapable of conducting honest elections.
If we had a Department of Justice that wasn’t more corrupt than the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, they would have taken ove the county election board. Alas… TC |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:09:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maricopa has proven itself to be incapable of conducting honest elections. If we had a Department of Justice that wasn’t more corrupt than the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, they would have taken ove the county election board. Alas… TC Pretty sure their SoS should be doing that, if she wasn't in on it. Governor should be raising hell for making AZ look like a bunch of monkeys with a football. Last thing you want is the feds coming in and flexing on a local problem. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:19:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure their SoS should be doing that, if she wasn't in on it. Governor should be raising hell for making AZ look like a bunch of monkeys with a football. Last thing you want is the feds coming in and flexing on a local problem. And.... what if they are in on it together? FYI- Ducey didn't back Lake. The SoS is the Dem nomination for Gov. Edit- And that "local problem" affected ~15% of the States in the Nation. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:21:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure their SoS should be doing that, if she wasn't in on it. Governor should be raising hell for making AZ look like a bunch of monkeys with a football. Last thing you want is the feds coming in and flexing on a local problem. But in the .fed's mind, there is no problem. Jay |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:45:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe AZ SOS website has far more updated numbers than everywhere else. Maricopa and Pima counties have been at 95% complete for over 24 hours. Why is it taking this long?! |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:50:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AZ SOS website has far more updated numbers than everywhere else. Maricopa and Pima counties have been at 95% complete for over 24 hours. Why is it taking this long?! Because they are tabulating how many votes they need to come up with to make Lake go away. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:52:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AZ SOS website has far more updated numbers than everywhere else. Maricopa and Pima counties have been at 95% complete for over 24 hours. Why is it taking this long?! Quote HistoryQuoted: The AZ SOS website has far more updated numbers than everywhere else. Maricopa and Pima counties have been at 95% complete for over 24 hours. Why is it taking this long?! Hobbs shenanigans. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 8:52:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And.... what if they are in on it together? FYI- Ducey didn't back Lake. The SoS is the Dem nomination for Gov. Edit- And that "local problem" affected ~15% of the States in the Nation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty sure their SoS should be doing that, if she wasn't in on it. Governor should be raising hell for making AZ look like a bunch of monkeys with a football. Last thing you want is the feds coming in and flexing on a local problem. And.... what if they are in on it together? FYI- Ducey didn't back Lake. The SoS is the Dem nomination for Gov. Edit- And that "local problem" affected ~15% of the States in the Nation. I'm well aware of all that and it 's more probable than possible. I'm always amazed that Iraq, in the middle of an insurgency, was able to run a more transparent and efficient election than some US states can. 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:03:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supposedly [Lake] encouraged her supporters to vote in person on election day. Wife and I voted this morning, and at least one of our ballots was not counted. Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:10:28 AM EDT
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Who does ARF want win?
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:23:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure their SoS should be doing that, if she wasn't in on it. Governor should be raising hell for making AZ look like a bunch of monkeys with a football. Last thing you want is the feds coming in and flexing on a local problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maricopa has proven itself to be incapable of conducting honest elections. If we had a Department of Justice that wasn’t more corrupt than the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, they would have taken ove the county election board. Alas… TC Pretty sure their SoS should be doing that, if she wasn't in on it. Governor should be raising hell for making AZ look like a bunch of monkeys with a football. Last thing you want is the feds coming in and flexing on a local problem. the governor is in on it as well, he endorsed karrin taylor robson |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:25:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who does ARF want win? Kari Lake is the MAGA candidate |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:27:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. A) Early voting is 100% bullshit and should not be legal. B) Voting early lets the cheaters know how many votes they need to find ahead of time. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:27:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Supposedly [Lake] encouraged her supporters to vote in person on election day. Wife and I voted this morning, and at least one of our ballots was not counted. Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. Hobbs failed to get enough Republican ballots to voting sites on election day. A whole lot of not doing her job correctly. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:27:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A) Early voting is 100% bullshit and should not be legal. B) Voting early lets the cheaters know how many votes they need to find ahead of time. When do you think mail-in and early votes actually get counted? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:28:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A) Early voting is 100% bullshit and should not be legal. B) Voting early lets the cheaters know how many votes they need to find ahead of time. That's retarded because they only count the votes on election day. Until then they lay guarded and sealed. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:30:29 AM EDT
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There should be no early voting, or mail in voting.
If you can't get to a voting place on voting day, whether you are military, on business etc, it does not matter. Voter ID, vote on voting day, at the poll. Nothing else is acceptable. I know it is not a popular opinion, but this is the only answer. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:33:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's retarded because they only count the votes on election day. Until then they lay guarded and sealed. They know how many ballots there are and where they supposedly came from. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:35:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There should be no early voting, or mail in voting. If you can't get to a voting place on voting day, whether you are military, on business etc, it does not matter. Voter ID, vote on voting day, at the poll. Nothing else is acceptable. I know it is not a popular opinion, but this is the only answer. Exactly. But don't forget the no same day registration. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:37:35 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There should be no early voting, or mail in voting. If you can't get to a voting place on voting day, whether you are military, on business etc, it does not matter. Voter ID, vote on voting day, at the poll. Nothing else is acceptable. I know it is not a popular opinion, but this is the only answer. That is something you try to fix in office. During the campaign get everyone out by any means necessary. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:38:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:42:35 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Supposedly [Lake] encouraged her supporters to vote in person on election day. Wife and I voted this morning, and at least one of our ballots was not counted. Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. Well said. In my opinion this was the nail in trumps coffin too He was too busy fighting it and instead should have been embracing mail in and early voting |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:44:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There should be no early voting, or mail in voting. If you can't get to a voting place on voting day, whether you are military, on business etc, it does not matter. Voter ID, vote on voting day, at the poll. Nothing else is acceptable. I know it is not a popular opinion, but this is the only answer. I agree with you. But it’s not going to happen. Ever. So Republicans can keep crying about it and losing elections because of it Or embrace it. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:56:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well said. In my opinion this was the nail in trumps coffin too He was too busy fighting it and instead should have been embracing mail in and early voting Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Supposedly [Lake] encouraged her supporters to vote in person on election day. Wife and I voted this morning, and at least one of our ballots was not counted. Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. Well said. In my opinion this was the nail in trumps coffin too He was too busy fighting it and instead should have been embracing mail in and early voting Early mail in voting is all about fraud. Early in person voting is probably ok in my book. Atleast in my county you can go to our county courthouse and vote in person with ID just like you could have in your area on election day. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:02:34 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hobbs failed to get enough Republican ballots to voting sites on election day. A whole lot of not doing her job correctly. Is that her job? Pretty sure, it's the responsibility of the County Recorder. Jay |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:04:14 PM EDT
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In-person same-day voting is a good tactic to pull back the curtain on voter fraud.
If you know through internal polling and analytics that you have the votes, and your voter base follows your instructions to vote in person on election day, you force the fraudsters into a precarious situation. They either have to fabricate too many votes ahead of time (>100% of registered voters) or they come up so short, you see these "pauses" while they fabricate unfound mail-in ballots. Either way, the average American sees it happening and hopefully will support mechanisms that will work towards solving these issues. It is easy to explain how voting is the very foundation of consenting to be governed to Joe six pack. I usually tell fence sitters and leftists that if the system was at least 90%+ honest, I would have little to no issues with the ebb and flow of government. Americans are more centrist than either side would have you believe. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:08:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they are tabulating how many votes they need to come up with to make Lake go away. This. They will find boxes of ballots |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:09:12 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There should be no early voting, or mail in voting. If you can't get to a voting place on voting day, whether you are military, on business etc, it does not matter. Voter ID, vote on voting day, at the poll. Nothing else is acceptable. I know it is not a popular opinion, but this is the only answer. Mail in voting only by deployed military. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A) Early voting is 100% bullshit and should not be legal. B) Voting early lets the cheaters know how many votes they need to find ahead of time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. A) Early voting is 100% bullshit and should not be legal. B) Voting early lets the cheaters know how many votes they need to find ahead of time. bUt iT’s ThE rEaLiTy We LiVe In! |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mail in voting only by deployed military. Male in voting |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:21:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well said. In my opinion this was the nail in trumps coffin too He was too busy fighting it and instead should have been embracing mail in and early voting Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Supposedly [Lake] encouraged her supporters to vote in person on election day. Wife and I voted this morning, and at least one of our ballots was not counted. Telling people to vote in person on election day is still as stupid as it was when Trump was pushing it. That doesn't mean I support early voting but that is the reality we live in and it needs to be utilized instead of rejected. Early voting makes it easier for people to get their ballot in. Making a task easier to complete increases participation. By telling people to only vote in person on election day she reduced the number of votes she got. Maybe only by a negligible amount or maybe by enough to clearly cost her the election. There are times where elections are won by what is usually considered a negligible margin. Ballot shortages, broken machines, sharpies that bleed through, traffic, limited time, bad weather...etc are all things that prevent people from voting in person on election day. Well said. In my opinion this was the nail in trumps coffin too He was too busy fighting it and instead should have been embracing mail in and early voting No we shouldn't be embracing mail in voting, massive amount of fraud with that. It was stupid of him to insist on election day only though. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:22:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When do you think mail-in and early votes actually get counted? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A) Early voting is 100% bullshit and should not be legal. B) Voting early lets the cheaters know how many votes they need to find ahead of time. When do you think mail-in and early votes actually get counted? Officially? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:54:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that her job? Pretty sure, it's the responsibility of the County Recorder. Jay Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hobbs failed to get enough Republican ballots to voting sites on election day. A whole lot of not doing her job correctly. Is that her job? Pretty sure, it's the responsibility of the County Recorder. Jay She's SoS. she is responsible for the election machine in AZ. I'm pretty sure she'll fall back on her being held to an impossible standard because she is a female. Things have turned to shit all over AZ. Did they have the problems before Hobbs was in charge? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They know how many ballots there are and where they supposedly came from. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's retarded because they only count the votes on election day. Until then they lay guarded and sealed. They know how many ballots there are and where they supposedly came from. You're responding to an election fraud denier... just click ignore |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 1:04:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2022 1:24:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySome people need to go work at Burger King. |
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