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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:35:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you see where it says sign and date the back of the envelope? how do you think they know who's signature to check? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because clearly, the mail ins don't have addresses on them and the people employed in the voting process have NO idea at ALL what republican and democrat voter's addresses are.  lol https://i.imgur.com/77XlNH1.jpg you see where it says sign and date the back of the envelope? how do you think they know who's signature to check? You're making the rather grandiose assumption that there is a signature check performed at any point in the process. That's not always the case. And, once the outer envelope is separated from the ballot on the inside, there's no way to audit where that ballot came from and whether it was from a valid voter or not. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:39:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hundreds and thousands of poll workers nationwide must be getting paid really well for risking prison time and ALL of them being able to keep this a secret. Lol My position on fraud is the claims are generally ridiculous. There's be proof all over the place of it because people are stupid. Thousands of people are even more stupid. If elections are rigged it's at such a high level of authority in our government that there is no chance we'd ever prove it and EVERY election has been rigged including the one trump won which would make voting pointless. I believe this fraud bullshit hurts the GOP because enough idiots will believe it and not bother voting. Facts are the more poor and hardworking people are able to vote due to early mail in voting and the GOP doesn't spend enough time catering to those voters so they will lose more elections if more people vote if they don't adapt their platform Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You think there's no reasonable way to know where that came from. That's funny.  If the elections staff can just magically make ballots and vote counts whatever they want, then the addresses signatures and everything else doesn't matter. Regardless, the ballots don't get opened until they're counted. But I'm sure there are plenty of elections staff sitting there at their desks steaming open mail in ballots to stuff them with secret votes for the non-MAGA candidates.  My position on fraud is the claims are generally ridiculous. There's be proof all over the place of it because people are stupid. Thousands of people are even more stupid. If elections are rigged it's at such a high level of authority in our government that there is no chance we'd ever prove it and EVERY election has been rigged including the one trump won which would make voting pointless. I believe this fraud bullshit hurts the GOP because enough idiots will believe it and not bother voting. Facts are the more poor and hardworking people are able to vote due to early mail in voting and the GOP doesn't spend enough time catering to those voters so they will lose more elections if more people vote if they don't adapt their platform There's proof of it all over the place because it happens all over the place. And, there have been hundreds of prosecutions over the years. The problem occurs when the scale of the fraud is beyond the ability of the "justice" system to handle it. Sure, places like Texas have made a big deal out of prosecuting a handful of people. But, it's a drop in the bucket. The fraud "bullshit" (as you call it) is what's causing the GOP to lose ground to the Dims in more and more places. They need to address it by having draconian rules about verifying a voter is valid, requiring a state-issued ID, voting only in person, and only on election DAY (unless .mil on deployment). |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:42:03 PM EDT
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Is this thread going to be about the Arizona "election" - or purse swinging?
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you believe this, than why did you get so cranked up about roe getting struck down? That was the federal government saying they didn't have the right to enforce that law on every state in the union. Did you WANT the federal government forcing people to live in states where murder was legal, when people DIDN'T want that? You say you're libertarian, so - do you believe in the principal of non-initiation of violence? Which do you value more, if you believe what you say here and your reasons for saying it: That the feds should do things that will make it harder for dems could win, even if that involves abortion, or that the government should be as small as possible? "When more of the country starts voting" - ???? What are you referring to? I don't even want the government doing roads infrastructure or schools, man. Yes, you obsessively hate trump, we know, we've known, even the people who don't love trump and only grudgingly voted for him seem to have noticed. Yeah ... uh, well, no republicans with meaningful positions of power at the state or federal level want to get within a hundred miles of realistically handling the problems of the homosexual powers that be, the only reason they're even touching on abortion is because, well, murdering the unborn because you want to get your junk wet or you want to use that to manpulate males is disgusting (and scotus just threw them a lot of political cover), etc. If you genuinely think that social conservatives at large want to screw over the poor, you've decided to believe a lie and you are out of contact with reality. As for "more reasonable" - those words have a meaning. Your posts have not shown how what you say is based on good and necessary consequence, nor true premises. In other words, your argument making your conclusion unavoidable if your premises are true, and your premises being not-self refuting and not irrational (un-logical). What I have seen from your posts is a ton of hate and rage and "you're trash because you aren't like me" and a heaping dose of "the end justifies the mean" and a utter silence on justifying (again, by good and necessary consequence) your positions. You haven't exhibited you have anything more than rage and insult. You think religion is dying ... well, that's just as ignorant as a box of rocks. All humans have religion, it is impossible for any human to not have religion. If you genuinely believe it is possible to not have religion, you are made a complete abject slave to that idea - you have already decided there can be nothing to contradict you. So when the leftist secularists want to enforce and practice their religion - for instance, their apocalyptic end-times theology of climate change, or their original sin idea based in racial essentialism, or their religous anthropology based on utterly racist and sexist bigoted categories ... you remove yourself from being able to see that it's a religion. For example: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-spiritual-shape-of-political-ideas You can't see that lindsay is arguing you can't have CRT and intersectionalsm and queer theory inculcated in schools because it's a religion, but yet what he'd replace it with - would be another religion. You want you think is the *right* religion to be enforced, however it would be. Libertarianism without any direction just undoes everything it touches by saying it's all bad because everything that exists requires boundaries and that they be enforced. Until you grok that, your libertarianism will make you rage at everything. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:44:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump did fairly well focusing more of his campaign on working class people . Hell his position on trade is pretty much the pre Clinton union democrat trade platform. The GOP isn't offering realistic solutions for high prices of housing and healthcare.. they aren't offering realistic solutions to crime and poverty. As more people start to vote the GOP needs to focus more on how their ideas benefit those people because if they don't the free shit from democrats sounds real good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You think there's no reasonable way to know where that came from. That's funny. If the elections staff can just magically make ballots and vote counts whatever they want, then the addresses signatures and everything else doesn't matter. Regardless, the ballots don't get opened until they're counted. But I'm sure there are plenty of elections staff sitting there at their desks steaming open mail in ballots to stuff them with secret votes for the non-MAGA candidates. Yes, they are. No more mean tweets. They had four years of absolute grating misery of having their precious stupid religion not being implemented the way they wanted and they had to put up with a boor that told them they were bad people and t heir religion was false and evil and he went out of his way to rub their faces it in. They were so traumatized by the evil orange getting elected that they broke friend and close family and business ties over it, and did an insane amount of work building mental and emotional self protection structures for themselves. Quoted: My position on fraud is the claims are generally ridiculous. There's be proof all over the place of it because people are stupid. Thousands of people are even more stupid. If elections are rigged it's at such a high level of authority in our government that there is no chance we'd ever prove it and EVERY election has been rigged including the one trump won which would make voting pointless. Are you saying your position is claims of election fraud - any or all of them - are always ridiculous? You don't have to have any central mr. big evil or group to have this stuff happen. All you have to have are a bunch of people who think alike AND hate the guts of the person on the ballot AND who, bonus, would be traumatized if he got elected again, involved in the system. There IS evidence of that. In fact, we have testimony from people involved in the election training in some of the hotly contested areas that talked about how the trainers and trainees openly exhibited exactly that kind of hatred towards others for being republicans. They bloody well CHEERED in one of the vote counting places in (detroit?, I forget exactly which one) every time the sleaze running the place managed to get a not-democrat observer tossed out. Quoted: I believe this fraud bullshit hurts the GOP because enough idiots will believe it and not bother voting. Facts are the more poor and hardworking people are able to vote due to early mail in voting and the GOP doesn't spend enough time catering to those voters so they will lose more elections if more people vote if they don't adapt their platform Oh look. You say you believe the repubs are subverted because they don't belive in another democrat party playbook thing. After a certain point, it doesn't matter how you're registered, act like a duck, quack like a duck, fly, swim, and eat like a duck, it won't matter if you've spray-painted yourself up as a swan. The GOP isn't offering realistic solutions for high prices of housing and healthcare.. they aren't offering realistic solutions to crime and poverty. As more people start to vote the GOP needs to focus more on how their ideas benefit those people because if they don't the free shit from democrats sounds real good. Nonsense. The RINO/GOPe is all about the uniparty platform which is enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else. It is said that Dimocrats seek power and money and GOPe seeks money and power. If we could get more actual GOP small-government, fiscally responsible, liberty-minded people elected, there would be a far greater difference between the parties than "we're not the other guys". |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GOP ideas that are right. Less government regulation. Lower tax rates. Less government spending. Protection of constitutional rights (at least more of them than democrats are willing to protect) That's pretty much it. The reason I vote for Republicans is those things are more important than the pile of social issues and policy they are wrong about If they want majority votes when more of the country starts voting they need to add to that. Perhaps campaigning on reducing waste and reinvesting in the things people actually want government doing such as I frastructure, energy production and public schools. You know it's possible to be for less government but also focus more of what we do have where it's needed and campaign on how that will create more jobs and opportunity and less inflation. If trump wasn't such a douche bag cry baby a lot of his pro American worker platform was really good and he'd still be president right now. Instead many Republicans want to focus on gays and abortions and things that bring out the bigots and religious nutjobs for social comment and make average people cringe I want a more libertarian GOP. That is more focused on effective minimal government If I thought a more libertarian democrat party was an easier goal for the future I would have left the GOP a long time ago but I believe religion and social conservatism is dying and my generation will be able to bring about a more reasonable and freedom focused republican party that can win more elections and bring about more prosperity for Americans . Sorry but you don't get to gatekeep the future. The younger Republicans are going to change things. Get with the program. Fuck the poor, abortion ban, prohibition, anti gay, world police party has no future. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you believe that, why do you have anything at all to do with conservative and republican politics here, or anywhere else? So far the only things I have seen you offer in your "the gop is wrong" posts is "be democrats, don't have principals beyond win, at all costs." The buy votes with other people's money army has been going since FDR's day, and got amplified by LBJ. If what you were saying were true, I'd ask you "why does any party exist that isn't the one that says they will and DOES give away the most to their voters?" GOP ideas that are right. Less government regulation. Lower tax rates. Less government spending. Protection of constitutional rights (at least more of them than democrats are willing to protect) That's pretty much it. The reason I vote for Republicans is those things are more important than the pile of social issues and policy they are wrong about If they want majority votes when more of the country starts voting they need to add to that. Perhaps campaigning on reducing waste and reinvesting in the things people actually want government doing such as I frastructure, energy production and public schools. You know it's possible to be for less government but also focus more of what we do have where it's needed and campaign on how that will create more jobs and opportunity and less inflation. If trump wasn't such a douche bag cry baby a lot of his pro American worker platform was really good and he'd still be president right now. Instead many Republicans want to focus on gays and abortions and things that bring out the bigots and religious nutjobs for social comment and make average people cringe I want a more libertarian GOP. That is more focused on effective minimal government If I thought a more libertarian democrat party was an easier goal for the future I would have left the GOP a long time ago but I believe religion and social conservatism is dying and my generation will be able to bring about a more reasonable and freedom focused republican party that can win more elections and bring about more prosperity for Americans . Sorry but you don't get to gatekeep the future. The younger Republicans are going to change things. Get with the program. Fuck the poor, abortion ban, prohibition, anti gay, world police party has no future. I got some bad news for you. If Arizona is anything like the Texas GOP convention I saw the beginning of when I was up in Houston at the Convention Center there, there were almost no young people at all. The younger Republicans aren't going to change jack shit if they don't participate. The creating opportunities for the poor, stop the baby killing, anti grooming, strong national defense party will trounce the milquetoast RINOs and Dims every. single. time. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do a little search. You will find that most often total turnout is reduced as early voting is increased. The only benefit to early voting is easier election administration. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’ve not seen any research, I’m going off of my experience and my family/friends experience. It’s counter intuitive that more folks would stand in blocks long lines on Election Day rather than stopping in on a leisurely Saturday on the way to Walmart. But you STILL have to take your physical ass there, show ID, under the scrutiny of other real, live human beings. I don’t think voting should be as easy as sending in a coupon for a magazine subscription like the left wants. Making it easier to PHYSICALLY be there is the way. Do a little search. You will find that most often total turnout is reduced as early voting is increased. The only benefit to early voting is easier election administration. I’ll do that research when I get finished with my sock drawer organization. You have convinced me with your assertion, without evidence, that the very mechanism of early voting which is to INCREASE voter participation: Doesn’t. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poll watching is meh, poll working is where it's at. I get paid, and more importantly I can't be thrown out if I see something being done that's not kosher, and if I complain about something being done wrong people actually take me seriously. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Awesome! 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:56:11 PM EDT
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Latest numbers, Lake’s lead continues to slowly grow…
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Posted: 8/4/2022 9:59:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Latest numbers, Lake's lead continues to slowly grow https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/7BC28AFA-5D7A-4BD9-AFF6-CAD8D3F00373_jpe-2477308.JPG I wonder what it'd look like if the ballot didn't have Salmon on it. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:00:46 PM EDT
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Lake is now leading in Maricopa county.
This has been interesting. Edit: Apparently, all counties. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:05:52 PM EDT
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Hearing that Lake has won every county in Arizona.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:05:55 PM EDT
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 I distinctly remember voting Trump. But yeah no fraud. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.postimg.cc/SKzLPrym/Screenshot-20220804-190355-Brave.jpg I distinctly remember voting Trump. But yeah no fraud. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:10:54 PM EDT
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I have lived in AZ for the last 45 years, and I love this state.
But the last few years of elections have been such embarrassing failures that I almost have to hide my head when I'm talking about state elections... 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:11:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.postimg.cc/SKzLPrym/Screenshot-20220804-190355-Brave.jpg I distinctly remember voting Trump. But yeah no fraud. Click on the full voting history. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:11:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hearing that Lake has won every county in Arizona.   |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:12:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.postimg.cc/SKzLPrym/Screenshot-20220804-190355-Brave.jpg I distinctly remember voting Trump. But yeah no fraud. Surely you don't believe your lying eyes....
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:14:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Click on the full voting history. Ok, yeah that's weird, the results are different |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:15:45 PM EDT
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Trump backed Kari Lake wins!
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:16:44 PM EDT
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Glad to hear that Lake remains on top.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump backed Kari Lake wins! |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:18:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every county in the state! And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:19:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:[/b] Trump backed Kari Lake wins! Game over, man |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Every county in the state! And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:20:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And if you look at the total dem vs rep votes, Lake will trounce that Hobbs commie bitch. 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:21:04 PM EDT
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Any propaganda outlets calling it for Lake yet?
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any propaganda outlets calling it for Lake yet? NYT |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:24:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any propaganda outlets calling it for Lake yet? Fox News called it. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:24:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Click on the full voting history. Yeah, that accurately reflects my voting history when I click that. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any propaganda outlets calling it for Lake yet? WaPo and NPR I'm not linking. Arizona Results: Kari Lake wins GOP nomination for governorhttps://www.npr.org › sections › 2022/08/04 › kari-lake-p... 12 minutes ago — Kari Lake, who has spent her campaign spreading election lies, was endorsed by Trump. Her rival, Karrin Taylor Robson, was backed by Arizona ... |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:28:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I cannot wait to see the Hobbs backers from the R party now that Lake is the pick. Fox News called it. PrInCiplEd cOnSerVaTiVES |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:34:35 PM EDT
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Summary: in the beginning, before all the votes were counted, it looked like one candidate was winning. After some time, a different candidate won.
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:35:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump backed Kari Lake wins! 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:37:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Summary: in the beginning, before all the votes were counted, it looked like one candidate was winning. After some time, a different candidate won. Whatever happened to election results being posted at the end of the day? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:37:28 PM EDT
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This should be a reminder to the "country club republican" types that Primaries are fucking RINO Season....
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:38:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that accurately reflects my voting history when I click that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Click on the full voting history. Yeah, that accurately reflects my voting history when I click that. Just a crappy, public-facing display of replicated database info. I doubt it would be accessing any live data. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poll watching is meh, poll working is where it's at. I get paid, and more importantly I can't be thrown out if I see something being done that's not kosher, and if I complain about something being done wrong people actually take me seriously. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All you need to know is that there are many instances where poll watchers were not permitted to do their job. That is illegal. In criminal law that is called intent. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:40:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WaPo and NPR I'm not linking. Arizona Results: Kari Lake wins GOP nomination for governorhttps://www.npr.org › sections › 2022/08/04 › kari-lake-p... 12 minutes ago — Kari Lake, who has spent her campaign spreading election lies, was endorsed by Trump. Her rival, Karrin Taylor Robson, was backed by Arizona ... Lake needs to rip the media for this characterization before the general election and attack them with facts. She's really good at fucking with the media, using their own tactics against them. This is going to be good. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:41:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Awesome, so Arizona was a clean sweep for President Trump as well?
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This should be a reminder to the "country club republican" types that Primaries are fucking RINO Season.... 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And many emotions were displayed. Whatever happened to election results being posted at the end of the day? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Summary: in the beginning, before all the votes were counted, it looked like one candidate was winning. After some time, a different candidate won. Whatever happened to election results being posted at the end of the day? Because news people have to fill the airwaves and internetwaves with something, right? Who cares about incomplete, missing facts, missing data, etc? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have a religion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you believe this, than why did you get so cranked up about roe getting struck down? That was the federal government saying they didn't have the right to enforce that law on every state in the union. Did you WANT the federal government forcing people to live in states where murder was legal, when people DIDN'T want that? You say you're libertarian, so - do you believe in the principal of non-initiation of violence? Which do you value more, if you believe what you say here and your reasons for saying it: That the feds should do things that will make it harder for dems could win, even if that involves abortion, or that the government should be as small as possible? "When more of the country starts voting" - ???? What are you referring to? I don't even want the government doing roads infrastructure or schools, man. Yes, you obsessively hate trump, we know, we've known, even the people who don't love trump and only grudgingly voted for him seem to have noticed. Yeah ... uh, well, no republicans with meaningful positions of power at the state or federal level want to get within a hundred miles of realistically handling the problems of the homosexual powers that be, the only reason they're even touching on abortion is because, well, murdering the unborn because you want to get your junk wet or you want to use that to manpulate males is disgusting (and scotus just threw them a lot of political cover), etc. If you genuinely think that social conservatives at large want to screw over the poor, you've decided to believe a lie and you are out of contact with reality. As for "more reasonable" - those words have a meaning. Your posts have not shown how what you say is based on good and necessary consequence, nor true premises. In other words, your argument making your conclusion unavoidable if your premises are true, and your premises being not-self refuting and not irrational (un-logical). What I have seen from your posts is a ton of hate and rage and "you're trash because you aren't like me" and a heaping dose of "the end justifies the mean" and a utter silence on justifying (again, by good and necessary consequence) your positions. You haven't exhibited you have anything more than rage and insult. You think religion is dying ... well, that's just as ignorant as a box of rocks. All humans have religion, it is impossible for any human to not have religion. If you genuinely believe it is possible to not have religion, you are made a complete abject slave to that idea - you have already decided there can be nothing to contradict you. So when the leftist secularists want to enforce and practice their religion - for instance, their apocalyptic end-times theology of climate change, or their original sin idea based in racial essentialism, or their religous anthropology based on utterly racist and sexist bigoted categories ... you remove yourself from being able to see that it's a religion. For example: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-spiritual-shape-of-political-ideas You can't see that lindsay is arguing you can't have CRT and intersectionalsm and queer theory inculcated in schools because it's a religion, but yet what he'd replace it with - would be another religion. You want you think is the *right* religion to be enforced, however it would be. Libertarianism without any direction just undoes everything it touches by saying it's all bad because everything that exists requires boundaries and that they be enforced. Until you grok that, your libertarianism will make you rage at everything. So you have no beliefs about reality. Interesting. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:49:40 PM EDT
[#44]
Ha, all the shit talkers that were out in force when this is how the voting was going…
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:50:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Latest numbers, Lake’s lead continues to slowly grow… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/7BC28AFA-5D7A-4BD9-AFF6-CAD8D3F00373_jpe-2477308.JPG I wonder what it’d look like if the ballot didn’t have Salmon on it. Any credible evidence he was put there to make it harder for her to win? |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:50:39 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All you need to know is that there are many instances where poll watchers were not permitted to do their job. That is illegal. In criminal law that is called intent. In fact I just got off the phone with a journalist regarding the Maricopa marker smearing issue, I was able to walk her through the problems and articulate the issues (and be taken seriously) precisely because I've done this in different jurisdictions. Poll watching is not "meh". It is very important. In a legit court, if there are any left in this country, a poll watcher has legal standing. And in a legit court, they find out the truth. That said......... I just got off my feet for the first time since 5 am this morning. Left the house at 5a, started at 6a, opened at 7a, closed at 7p, got home at 9p. Long day. Sworn election worker. I operate election machines. Ballot generators and tabulators. That is what I do. I know this shit. I sign legal documents as "election judge". My point is that I know this stuff from the inside out. And thank you for stepping up. Most people here don't clean their guns, don't go to parent/teacher conferences, don't change the oil in their lawn mowers, and they sure as hell don't volunteer to work elections. Some of us appreciate your efforts. Thank you. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:51:28 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any credible evidence he was put there to make it harder for her to win? Well, when he bowed out he endorsed Robson. I think it was intentional to try and break away Lake voters. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:52:22 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the Trump Endorsement clearly carries SO much weight... ... in a state that Trump lost.  Bigger_Hammer  Looks like a lot more weight than your hammer |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:53:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have lived in AZ for the last 45 years, and I love this state. But the last few years of elections have been such embarrassing failures that I almost have to hide my head when I'm talking about state elections... Hopefully you guys can pull a florida and clean those places up a bit. 
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Posted: 8/4/2022 10:55:03 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump backed Kari Lake wins! Has the opponent conceded and the vote counting stopped? Here's to hoping it sticks! |
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