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Posted: 12/16/2011 1:56:40 PM EST
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I don't really see a problem with this(if gov buildings are going to have religious displays they should let all religions participate), but I also don't see why they feel the need to do this. Atheism isn't a religion. I'm told that athiests have no beliefs or taditions or holidays (at least based on athiesm), so why put up anything at all? C'mon we all know people who do stuff like this, do stuff like this to be jerks. My World Religion professor and the textbook we used in the class disagree with you. Atheists don't believe there is a deity, it doesn't mean they have no beliefs. They just don't have traditional views on religion. Their views on religion are basically that it can be evil because some people use religion as an excuse to do terrible things. So they put up displays like this to express their views on religion. Man just twists religion, or philosophies, or a persecution complex to try to justify the evil they were willing to embrace in their lust for money and power. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 1:58:41 PM EST
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Oh you poor Christian martyrs.
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Posted: 12/16/2011 1:59:18 PM EST
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Man just creates religion, or philosophies, or a persecution complex to try to justify the evil they were willing to embrace in their lust for money and power. Fixed it for you. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:00:13 PM EST
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They win because you people are getting upset and over-thinking it. Wow, their goal was to get me upset? Says a lot about them, great people. 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:00:28 PM EST
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Those aren't athiests. They are anti-christians. Exactly. There are atheists - who really don't give a shit, and couldn't care less what other people believe - and then there are the rabid anti-religious types. Two very different groups. The former are nice, and completely harmless. The later are flaming assholes. Mature atheists and immature atheists. The young of any group, as in age or recent "conversion," tend to be an irritating combination of enthusiasm and short sightedness. Then again, some people will always be like spicy food - irritating assholes. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:00:55 PM EST
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They win because you people are getting upset and over-thinking it. Wow, their goal was to get me upset? Says a lot about them, great people. I'm not saying they're good people. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:02:20 PM EST
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An Atheist has a lack of faith, meaning no set rules, from one to another as to tradition. Why is OK to judge Atheists by a few attention whores and it is not OK to judge Christians by Westboro Baptists(Sp?) in that they at least share a text and set of rules? Common, this logic has to work both ways, if one is pissed atheists can be turds and judge all Christians because of a few crazies, they have no ground to stand on and judge atheists by a guy who wants to be on TV. *all Christians are not like Westboro Baptists, that was intentionally hyperbolic. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:02:50 PM EST
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I'd be happy with no religion at all, or only one religion so everyone could get along. I wonder how many would agree with this?
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:04:40 PM EST
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No religion bitterly clings to their beliefs quite like Atheists... Yep. Since they cannot present what they believe (they believe in nothing), they are left only with insulting the beliefs of others. Really classy. Why didn't they include Allah and Muhammed in the satire? Afraid of taking on a group that will actually do more than just pray for them?  I suspect it is because the atheists in question live somewhere that is predominantly christian, and that is what they have to deal with. I'd like to see FFRF start a Chapter in Dearborn. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:11:31 PM EST
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Athiests are only slightly less annoying than liberals. Not because they don't believe in God, but because they absolutely can't stand that I do. It's demonstrated here daily and maybe even hourly. This - include paulbots in that trio of tards, and you've got it nailed... - georgestrings |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:13:56 PM EST
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Man just creates religion, or philosophies, or a persecution complex to try to justify the evil they were willing to embrace in their lust for money and power. Fixed it for you. Depends on the belief system. Some are created for lust, and some are twisted more easily then others. Some tend to encourage an industrious and orderly society, others not so much. Removing religion doesn't do anything to remove the evil in mans heart, and may instead cripple the societal pressures that limit the expression of antisocial behavior. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:15:00 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. So does the actual Nativity. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:19:46 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. So does the actual Nativity. We must have a disagreement on the meaning of the term "exist". |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:20:51 PM EST
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I don't really see a problem with this(if gov buildings are going to have religious displays they should let all religions participate), but I also don't see why they feel the need to do this. Atheism isn't a religion. I'm told that athiests have no beliefs or taditions or holidays (at least based on athiesm), so why put up anything at all? C'mon we all know people who do stuff like this, do stuff like this to be jerks. To destroy the hopes and dreams of small children. Not that far, certainly, but to be an annoyance, sure. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:23:54 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. Right. Jesus never existed.
Prove his existence with a single non biblical source. 
The fact that you think you're smart makes it all the more entertaining! Well, most retards don't know they're retarded - I'm just sayin'... - georgestrings |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:24:06 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. Right. Jesus never existed.
Prove his existence with a single non biblical source. Josephus mentioned him. http://jewishchristianlit.com/Topics/JewishJesus/josephus.html Anyhow, I couldn't care less about the display. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:25:21 PM EST
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:27:47 PM EST
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Athiests are only slightly less annoying than liberals. Not because they don't believe in God, but because they absolutely can't stand that I do. It's demonstrated here daily and maybe even hourly. We don't "hate" your faith. If anything, we feel sorry for you for wasting your life believing in Bronze Age ideas.
I still support your right to do so, though! To quote the United Negro College Fund: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." Religious belief has not hurt Francis Collins, MD, PHD, former head of the human genome project and current head of the National Institue of Health any. A devout Christian, my friend Francis has done much to unlock the genetic secrets of many diseases and have advanced our understanding of the building blocks of human life. I guess that is all impossible for his simple mind. Religious belief, in spite of the Daily Show propaganda, is neither evidence of rejection of science nor evidence of a lack of intelligence. TO say such is simple bigotry.
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:30:00 PM EST
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The only reason I would argue with Christians is that they vote. If a preacher can convince them that there's a magical man in the sky who will solve all your problems if you believe in him, what else might these people believe? If the government tells you that some country hates us and is planning to attack us, and never provide any evidence, would these people support war? Christians affect my life every day when they argue against stem cell research because of what their 2000 year old magic book says. It irreparably harms my life when 80% of the people in my country lack critical thinking skills and do not understand the concept of evidence, let alone asking for it. On edit: Watch the video above and tell me that Christianity isn't plagiarized from earlier religions. Nonsense. Who votes for more socialism, gun control, wealth redistribution, welfare, and increased big government? |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:31:55 PM EST
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I don't really see a problem with this(if gov buildings are going to have religious displays they should let all religions participate), but I also don't see why they feel the need to do this. Atheism isn't a religion. I'm told that athiests have no beliefs or taditions or holidays (at least based on athiesm), so why put up anything at all? C'mon we all know people who do stuff like this, do stuff like this to be jerks. My World Religion professor and the textbook we used in the class disagree with you.Atheists don't believe there is a deity, it doesn't mean they have no beliefs. They just don't have traditional views on religion. Their views on religion are basically that it can be evil because some people use religion as an excuse to do terrible things. So they put up displays like this to express their views on religion. ANd thus they use their lack of belief to justify being nasty to their fellow man? Cool. Part in red: 1). Ah nice, an undergrad. They are fun. 2). Okay, I hear objections about christians becuse some authority figure with a book tells them what to believe and then you tell me that an authority figure with a book told you how to believe. Do you not see the irony in that? |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:35:09 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. Dude, they totally had goats and camels and shit in Bethlehem 2000 years ago. And hay, I always remember a lot of hay in manger scenes. I feel confident they had hey in Judea 2000 years ago. On a serious note as an atheist these people need to chill the fuck out. I find one of the benefits of being an atheist is is not having as much stress around xmas time. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:41:16 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. You're saying Jesus never existed? Yet again, you prove to not have a very apt user name... Be gentle with him. He's a little..... 'special'. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:43:02 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. You're saying Jesus never existed? Yet again, you prove to not have a very apt user name... Be gentle with him. He's a little..... 'special'. Apparently so |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:44:52 PM EST
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Those aren't athiests. They are anti-christians. Exactly. There are atheists - who really don't give a shit, and couldn't care less what other people believe - and then there are the rabid anti-religious types. Two very different groups. The former are nice, and completely harmless. The later are flaming assholes. I think you mean anti-theists. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:45:47 PM EST
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FIFY. The religion of liberalism has had a far more negative impact on our lives than any Christian boogeyman. Translation : Anyone who disagrees with me is a liberal/communist/ Obama supporter/ etc... So tell us, who did you vote for for President now that you mention Obama.......... If your Mao jacket fits......... |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:46:33 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. Right. Jesus never existed.
Prove his existence with a single non biblical source. The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. 116 AD), book 15, chapter 44.
The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in 64 AD during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero.[1] The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian reference to the origin of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the Canonical gospels, and the presence and persecution of Christians in 1st-century Rome.[2][3] Scholars generally consider Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.[4][5][6] |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:48:37 PM EST
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Do some reading genius: Ehrman, Bart D. (February 2011). "8. Forgeries, Lies, Deceptions, and the Writings of the New Testament. Modern Forgeries, Lies, and Deceptions. The Death Sentence of Jesus Christ." (EPUB). Forged: Writing in the Name of God—Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are. (First Edition. EPub ed.). New York: HarperCollins e-books. p. 285. ISBN 978-0-06-207863-6. Retrieved 2 September 2011. "This does not mean, as is now being claimed with alarming regularity, that Jesus never existed. He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees, based on clear and certain evidence. But as with the vast majority of all persons who lived and died in the first century, he does not appear in the records of the Roman people." I'd like to see the "clear and certain evidence". I just haven't seen any, that's all I'm saying. I have never encountered a bible thumper who was anywhere near as arrogant and pushy as all of these enlightened atheists. Most of us really just wish you would both shut the fuck up. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:49:23 PM EST
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:51:46 PM EST
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No religion bitterly clings to their beliefs quite like Atheists... Yep. Since they cannot present what they believe (they believe in nothing), they are left only with insulting the beliefs of others. Really classy. Why didn't they include Allah and Muhammed in the satire? Afraid of taking on a group that will actually do more than just pray for them? I don't know why people say Atheists don't believe in anything. They're not nihilists man, they've got an ethos. Well please enlighten us on teh standard athiest belief system. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:52:00 PM EST
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Oh you poor Christian martyrs. We're all out to get you, you know. During the New Crusaades, will I recognize you by your assless chaps?  
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Posted: 12/16/2011 2:56:49 PM EST
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Zeitgeist? I'm as atheists as the next guy, but I don't really see 9/11 troofers as a reliable source for anything. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:02:33 PM EST
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No religion bitterly clings to their beliefs quite like Atheists... Yep. Since they cannot present what they believe (they believe in nothing), they are left only with insulting the beliefs of others. Really classy. Why didn't they include Allah and Muhammed in the satire? Afraid of taking on a group that will actually do more than just pray for them? I don't know why people say Atheists don't believe in anything. They're not nihilists man, they've got an ethos. Well please enlighten us on teh standard athiest belief system. Atheists believe there is no deity. They reject theistic beliefs because they seem to be incompatible with the existence of evil in the world, or because there is little of no concrete proff that God exists, or because theistic beliefs seem unscientific, or because they inhibit human independence. To say atheists have no beliefs is inaccurate. To believe that something doesn't exist is still a belief. They have their beliefs and their reasons for those beliefs, just like you and everyone else in the world. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:07:48 PM EST
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Do some reading genius: Ehrman, Bart D. (February 2011). "8. Forgeries, Lies, Deceptions, and the Writings of the New Testament. Modern Forgeries, Lies, and Deceptions. The Death Sentence of Jesus Christ." (EPUB). Forged: Writing in the Name of God—Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are. (First Edition. EPub ed.). New York: HarperCollins e-books. p. 285. ISBN 978-0-06-207863-6. Retrieved 2 September 2011. "This does not mean, as is now being claimed with alarming regularity, that Jesus never existed. He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees, based on clear and certain evidence. But as with the vast majority of all persons who lived and died in the first century, he does not appear in the records of the Roman people." I'd like to see the "clear and certain evidence". I just haven't seen any, that's all I'm saying. If you really want to see it, then do some research. Scholars clearly think that the evidence exists. However, you won't because you really don't care and were just trying to play gotcha. Christ's existence or nonexistence has no bearing on my life. I agree that I don't really care and wouldn't invest more than 5 minutes going in to the matter. Even if Jesus existed, he wasn't divine, he was a schizophrenic who heard voices from men in the sky. If a man who could really perform miracles ( even as paltry as they were) existed, I would think that more than 4 people would put down some records of him. Also I would think the records would be made at the time of his life and not 30-40 years after. Then why did you say you want to see the clear and certain evidence? Why not just go away and leave all of us uneducated, ignorant, fairy tale believing fools to our own devices? Because he believes himself to be superior and more intelligent, and sitting quietly in the corner, rolling his own shit into little balls... doesn't allow him to convey his inflated self opinion. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:10:29 PM EST
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This hogwash has no place on a firearms board. That goes for both sides. 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:11:14 PM EST
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What hurts christianity more? Someone making a tasteless joke about it, or christians making small minded, hateful generalized insults of people who don't agree with them?
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:11:54 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. Right. Jesus never existed.
Prove his existence with a single non biblical source. The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. 116 AD), book 15, chapter 44.
The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in 64 AD during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero.[1] The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian reference to the origin of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the Canonical gospels, and the presence and persecution of Christians in 1st-century Rome.[2][3] Scholars generally consider Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.[4][5][6] Would you take third hand ( or further), 40+ years after the fact evidence with an unspecified source as being credible? There are no well known Roman, PERIOD( Not 50+ years after) sources that identify Jesus. For a man that you claim performed miracles, he sure seems to be elusive in any non Christian source. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:15:00 PM EST
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What hurts christianity more? Someone making a tasteless joke about it, or christians making small minded, hateful generalized insults of people who don't agree with them? To fair, in the last few threads today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. CHristians have been called idiots, primitives, midless, stuck in the broze age (EMCON), destroying the country by voting with a primitive 2000 year old belief system and ruining his life (Brilliant Rocket), Jesus was an evil man, (brilliant rocket), Edited to add a few more: To fair, in the last few threads today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. CHristians have been called idiots, primitives, midless, stuck in the broze age (EMCON), destroying the country by voting with a primitive 2000 year old belief system and ruining his life (Brilliant Rocket), Jesus was an evil man, (brilliant rocket), The athiests in these threads lately, excluding Fatalterror and Trouble3Shooter, have been spewing for the the most vile and foaming at the mouth hateful vitreol that must embarass any thinking athiest. I do note the time and year and the low post counts so I can only guess that school is out. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:15:48 PM EST
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So, BR, you never did answer my question......
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:16:32 PM EST
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What hurts christianity more? Someone making a tasteless joke about it, or christians making small minded, hateful generalized insults of people who don't agree with them? To fair, in the last few thread today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. Ahh, didn't see those.
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:21:08 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. Right. Jesus never existed.
Prove his existence with a single non biblical source. The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. 116 AD), book 15, chapter 44.
The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in 64 AD during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero.[1] The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian reference to the origin of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the Canonical gospels, and the presence and persecution of Christians in 1st-century Rome.[2][3] Scholars generally consider Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.[4][5][6] Would you take third hand ( or further), 40+ years after the fact evidence with an unspecified source as being credible? There are no well known Roman, PERIOD( Not 50+ years after) sources that identify Jesus. For a man that you claim performed miracles, he sure seems to be elusive in any non Christian source. No well known Roman sources? You mean like a Roman senator describing the people who called themselves christians who were used as scapegoats by Nero? Do you expect me to have a flash drive with a jpeg of the crucifixion on it? It was antiquity you simple fuck. Papyrus scrolls deteriorate and word of mouth/copies of scrolls done by later greek scholars is as good as it gets. Would it astonish you for me to accept that a few fucked up looking jawbones is acceptable evidence for man's evolutionary history? Because the fossil record clearly indicates that the earth has had life on it for millions of years. Why does it have to be all or nothing with you arrogant bastards? I'm not sure what is so lacking in your life that you need to cling to your belief that you are so much smarter than Christians... Methinks thou doth protest too much. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:23:14 PM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Athiests are only slightly less annoying than liberals. Not because they don't believe in God, but because they absolutely can't stand that I do. It's demonstrated here daily and maybe even hourly. We don't "hate" your faith. If anything, we feel sorry for you for wasting your life believing in Bronze Age ideas. I still support your right to do so, though! To quote the United Negro College Fund: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." Religious belief has not hurt Francis Collins, MD, PHD, former head of the human genome project and current head of the National Institue of Health any. A devout Christian, my friend Francis has done much to unlock the genetic secrets of many diseases and have advanced our understanding of the building blocks of human life. I guess that is all impossible for his simple mind. Religious belief, in spite of the Daily Show propaganda, is neither evidence of rejection of science nor evidence of a lack of intelligence. TO say such is simple bigotry.It is also true that Francis Collins would be disgusted by Young Earth Creationist arguments, which are the exclusive domain of a certain vocal minority of evangelicals. Those are the people that drive non-believers nuts. It's not believers like Dr Collins, or Kenneth Miller, or even you. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:24:06 PM EST
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What hurts christianity more? Someone making a tasteless joke about it, or christians making small minded, hateful generalized insults of people who don't agree with them? To fair, in the last few thread today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. Ahh, didn't see those. Edited to add a few:To fair, in the last few threads today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. CHristians have been called idiots, primitives, midless, stuck in the broze age (EMCON), destroying the country by voting with a primitive 2000 year old belief system and ruining his life (Brilliant Rocket), Jesus was an evil man, (brilliant rocket), |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:26:15 PM EST
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So, BR, you never did answer my question...... I didn't vote at all. If I had to vote ( which I probably won't) I would vote for Ron Paul, although I do not agree with him on abortion. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:26:43 PM EST
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Athiests are only slightly less annoying than liberals. Not because they don't believe in God, but because they absolutely can't stand that I do. It's demonstrated here daily and maybe even hourly. We don't "hate" your faith. If anything, we feel sorry for you for wasting your life believing in Bronze Age ideas.
I still support your right to do so, though! To quote the United Negro College Fund: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." Religious belief has not hurt Francis Collins, MD, PHD, former head of the human genome project and current head of the National Institue of Health any. A devout Christian, my friend Francis has done much to unlock the genetic secrets of many diseases and have advanced our understanding of the building blocks of human life. I guess that is all impossible for his simple mind. Religious belief, in spite of the Daily Show propaganda, is neither evidence of rejection of science nor evidence of a lack of intelligence. TO say such is simple bigotry.It is also true that Francis Collins would be disgusted by Young Earth Creationist arguments, which are the exclusive domain of a certain vocal minority of evangelicals. Those are the people that drive non-believers nuts. It's not believers like Dr Collins, or Kenneth Miller, or even you. Yes, but you area sensible and logical person and only foams that the mouth on new beer day. HOwever, that is all these other, low post, and new people do. I'm guessing that when school starts agian, all of the angst ridden undergrads will have something more pressing ot get all atwitterpated about. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:26:51 PM EST
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What hurts christianity more? Someone making a tasteless joke about it, or christians making small minded, hateful generalized insults of people who don't agree with them? To fair, in the last few thread today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. Ahh, didn't see those. Edited to add a few:To fair, in the last few threads today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. CHristians have been called idiots, primitives, midless, stuck in the broze age (EMCON), destroying the country by voting with a primitive 2000 year old belief system and ruining his life (Brilliant Rocket), Jesus was an evil man, (brilliant rocket), I'm not so sure that Brilliant Rocket isn't Barack Obama's troll account. I mean come on... Is listed as being from Illinois, and thinks REALLY highly of himself. 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:27:45 PM EST
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So, BR, you never did answer my question...... I didn't vote at all. If I had to vote ( which I probably won't) I would vote for Ron Paul, although I do not agree with him on abortion. Wait a minute... You claim to hate Christians because they vote based on methods which you disagree with. Then you admit that you don't vote. Wow. You ARE special. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:29:17 PM EST
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The thing about the atheist display is that it features characters/things that actually existed. 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:31:00 PM EST
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Writings of Josephus (non-biblical early historian)
Chapter 3 paragraph 3 (63) Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. (64) And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross [2], those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day [3], as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named for him, are not extinct at this day. "Flavius Josephus (c. A.D. 37-100) was born to an aristocratic Jewish family, served as a priest, and later became the commander of Jewish forces in Galilee following the revolt against Rome that began A.D. 66. Captured by the Romans, Josephus spent his later life in Rome under the patronage of the Roman emperors where he composed his history of the Jewish people and his account of the Jewish war that led to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70." There you go! You asked for a non-biblical reference and there you have it. I bet you money you still don't believe. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:31:19 PM EST
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So, BR, you never did answer my question...... I didn't vote at all. If I had to vote ( which I probably won't) I would vote for Ron Paul, although I do not agree with him on abortion. Wait a minute... You claim to hate Christians because they vote based on methods which you disagree with. Then you admit that you don't vote. Wow. You ARE special. So with a choice like McCain or Obama, what difference does it make? I would vote when the candidates actually have different positions and are not corporate shills. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:31:51 PM EST
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What hurts christianity more? Someone making a tasteless joke about it, or christians making small minded, hateful generalized insults of people who don't agree with them? To fair, in the last few thread today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. Ahh, didn't see those. Edited to add a few:To fair, in the last few threads today, it has been hateful, generalized, and small minded insults on the other side of the isle as well. Phrases like "fuck you" and "fuck your god" from GoneRebel and God_Hammer come to mind. CHristians have been called idiots, primitives, midless, stuck in the broze age (EMCON), destroying the country by voting with a primitive 2000 year old belief system and ruining his life (Brilliant Rocket), Jesus was an evil man, (brilliant rocket), I do have to point out that athiests aren't bound by their beliefs to act a certain way, but the other side is. Athiests don't hurt their cause by insulting anyone, Christians do. |
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