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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:19:32 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He wasn't stopped for failing to speed. He was stopped because he was camped in the wrong lane and impeding traffic. He was stopped so Mark Lamb, cool guy, but lover of media, could make a video appealing to a popular public traffic issue. (Hey Mark!) |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:20:03 AM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What if there are too many cars for just the right lane to accommodate? Obviously, the extra cars have to go in the left lane. Plus, since the left lane gets used less frequently, it has fewer bumps and ruts in it, and is a smoother ride. The passing lane is for passing, why is that a difficult concept to grasp? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:21:24 AM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP has now started a thread with a video I posted on facebook 3 days ago. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:22:37 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A simple solution that I'd love to see implemented is have a mildly annoying rumble strip in the left lane. The NPCs with double digit IQs will naturally herd themselves into the right lane due to the mild annoyance. It doesn't even have to be the entire length of the left lane. Maybe every 30 seconds make it rumble enough for a few seconds to trigger their lizard brain into moving out of the fucking way.  Route 66 America the beautiful rumble strip. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:22:48 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect he didn't write a ticket and doubt you can be written a ticket for failing to speed. My dad got a ticket for driving too slow coming home from drill once. It was late, a car was tailgating him trying to pass, so he slowed down. It didn't pass, so he slowed down more. Turns out the car was a cop and he pulled him over for driving too slow. When the cop asked him why he was driving so slow, my dad told him he thought he was tailgating him because he was drunk, and my dad was trying to give him room to pass. I guess the cop didn't like that answer so he gave him a ticket. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:23:47 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He wasn't stopped for failing to speed. He was stopped because he was camped in the wrong lane and impeding traffic. I only stay in good Arizona ie southern southern Utah. I don't go past the big hole. I'm not sure I've seen a cop in good Arizona although they must have them. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:24:28 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The victim said he was going the speed limit. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:25:43 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:26:13 AM EST
[#9]
Speed limits shouldn’t exist outside of residential areas.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:26:22 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The victim said he was going the speed limit. Man. Lawyer huh? Like a real one? Are there laws other than speeding, or just that one? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:26:24 AM EST
[#11]
When I want to pass there is always some dumb fuck, who is left lane camping. “I’m doing the speed limit” fuck you get over or stop driving. Left lane is for passing, it should apply to semi trucks as well.
I get stuck behind Texans here frequently and y’all drive slow as fuck here. Go 10 over & no one will bat an eye, DPS doesn’t give a shit. They are looking for the losers who have expired tags and are weaving in traffic. If I want to drive fast that is my business. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:27:18 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every state needs a law about camping. One thing I loved about Spain. I could be doing 30 over and the cops were fine as long as I wasn't just cruising in the left lane. Kansas and Missouri have both made left lane camping illegal. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:27:29 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sound like a po-po. He's doing the speed limit, and people are going over the speed limit to pass him, yet he gets pulled over. Find someone else to fucking harass. "Going with the flow of traffic" gets thrown out the window when they want to write speeding tickets. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane? You sound like a po-po. He's doing the speed limit, and people are going over the speed limit to pass him, yet he gets pulled over. Find someone else to fucking harass. "Going with the flow of traffic" gets thrown out the window when they want to write speeding tickets. You need to watch the video again. The left lane is a passing lane. If you are not passing other vehicles then you are violating the law and it doesn't matter what speed you are going. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:28:03 AM EST
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I don't follow the rule to a T. I'll always cede the left lane to faster traffic, but generally inhabit a middle lane on 3+ lane roadways. Gives you more reaction time if something jumps out at ya, and don't have to move left for on-ramps.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:29:41 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect he didn't write a ticket and doubt you can be written a ticket for failing to speed. Oh in AZ you can get a ticket for impeding traffic even if you are driving the speed limit. Driving 70 mph when the speed limit says 65 is not speeding in AZ. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:30:50 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh in AZ you can get a ticket for impeding traffic even if you are driving the speed limit. Driving 70 mph when the speed limit says 65 is not speeding in AZ. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I suspect he didn't write a ticket and doubt you can be written a ticket for failing to speed. Oh in AZ you can get a ticket for impeding traffic even if you are driving the speed limit. Driving 70 mph when the speed limit says 65 is not speeding in AZ. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:31:27 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you drive in the turning lane without turning too? Do you park on the highway? Do you turn from whatever lane is convenient? The passing lane is for passing, why is that a difficult concept to grasp? No, obviously driveways are for parking. And parkways are for driving. The center lane is marked with special double solid and dashed lines and arrows that indicate that it's a turn lane. And yeah, I've seen people drive in it. And on the shoulder. You shouldn't have to speed to pass someone in the left lane. If you do speed, then the cops will pull you over for speeding, even IF you are passing. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:31:32 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The victim said he was going the speed limit. I only stay in good Arizona ie southern southern Utah. I don't go past the big hole. I'm not sure I've seen a cop in good Arizona although they must have them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He wasn't stopped for failing to speed. He was stopped because he was camped in the wrong lane and impeding traffic. I only stay in good Arizona ie southern southern Utah. I don't go past the big hole. I'm not sure I've seen a cop in good Arizona although they must have them. Objection your honor! We move to strike that comment. There is no victim here and counsel knows better. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:33:10 AM EST
[#19]
The driver was in the left of 3 lanes so he should have moved over to at least the middle lane or the right lane.
With 3 lanes, the left is always for passing just like a 2-lane; the middle is for standard travel; the right is for merging on to or exiting the freeway. The white vehicle was actually wrong even at the speed limit. I'm surprised nobody on GD has yet to blow a gasket over the white vehicle being a Honda Ridgeline. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:33:12 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The victim said he was going the speed limit. I only stay in good Arizona ie southern southern Utah. I don't go past the big hole. I'm not sure I've seen a cop in good Arizona although they must have them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He wasn't stopped for failing to speed. He was stopped because he was camped in the wrong lane and impeding traffic. I only stay in good Arizona ie southern southern Utah. I don't go past the big hole. I'm not sure I've seen a cop in good Arizona although they must have them. Victim? The only victim is the drivers affected by the driver camping in the wrong lane. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:33:41 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Objection your honor! We strike to have that comment removed. There is no victim here and counsel knows better. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:34:18 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Victim? The only victim is the drivers affected by the driver camping in the wrong lane. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:35:10 AM EST
[#23]
30 years ago I had a Travis County motor deputy get a conviction on a state employee who was impeding traffic on I-35 for 55 in a 55. Her excuse was that she was going the speed limit so everyone else should.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:35:40 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only because Az must be full of dumby lawyers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I suspect he didn't write a ticket and doubt you can be written a ticket for failing to speed. Oh in AZ you can get a ticket for impeding traffic even if you are driving the speed limit. Driving 70 mph when the speed limit says 65 is not speeding in AZ. No, just people from the east coast who don't know how to drive. The same people who slam on their brakes when it starts to rain. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:36:36 AM EST
[#25]
I just recently lerned this myself!
In most states you can only be in the left lane, if you're actively passing people, regardless of speed limit. Who knew that the left lane was like the Auto Bahn and you can go as fast as you want!  |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:37:07 AM EST
[#26]
are you not breaking the law too by speeding
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:38:42 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I move this juror be excused for cause!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Victim? The only victim is the drivers affected by the driver camping in the wrong lane. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:43:04 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, obviously driveways are for parking. And parkways are for driving. The center lane is marked with special double solid and dashed lines and arrows that indicate that it's a turn lane. And yeah, I've seen people drive in it. And on the shoulder. You shouldn't have to speed to pass someone in the left lane. If you do speed, then the cops will pull you over for speeding, even IF you are passing. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:43:14 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, just people from the east coast who don't know how to drive. The same people who slam on their brakes when it starts to rain. I found this video after someone from Utah complained about people being speed Karen's and driving slow in the passing lane on purpose to make others go the speed limit. I wonder where that is. In Utah they fly off cliffs, fall asleep and roll across the desert, drive into the oncoming lane, get into crazy road rage shoot outs, but I haven't see anyone drive slow. There's nothing like seeing a horse trailer flying by you at 95, the horses looking out, eyes wide in terror |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:44:20 AM EST
[#30]
Literally hurting American industry by slowing down our infrastructure. No different then Al Qaeda.
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:44:33 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: are you not breaking the law too by speeding It's left lane camping got dammit! How can a person do 90 when theres impediment! Whisk (er I mean cop) was just mad that he wasn't able to bust bigger fish. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:44:45 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: are you not breaking the law too by speeding |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:49:23 AM EST
[#33]
So is it OK to go 120 in the left lane since I'm passing people? What if I'm only doing 90 in a 60, and the guy behind me on a crotch rocket wants to go 140mph? Am I the bad guy for only doing 90? So when is a speed limit a speed limit?
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:50:55 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryAnyway he went to a local justice court with a non lawyer judge (common in rural NY also). He and another lawyer were arguing a case and the judge suggested they go back in the judge's office and he'd look it up. The judge pulled some books off his shelf and was reading through them as the lawyers chatted. Then future law professor said "Judge, those are Idaho law books." The judge said the town couldn't afford to buy the books for Wyoming, but someone had given him the Idaho books and he figured it was better than nothing and probably pretty much the same. Thinking about it years later the judge was probably right. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:54:49 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So is it OK to go 120 in the left lane since I'm passing people? What if I'm only doing 90 in a 60, and the guy behind me on a crotch rocket wants to go 140mph? Am I the bad guy for only doing 90? So when is a speed limit a speed limit? How long were you planning on going a solid 40+ miles an hour faster than everyone else on the road without getting pulled over? Going tremendously faster than the flow of traffic is also dangerous. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:55:14 AM EST
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I got pulled over crossing the Navajo reservation but Navajo police.
He says "you know why I pulled you over?" Me: "no idea, this damn thing won't even hold the speed limit in this wind!" (Old Isuzu trooper with about a 50mph head wind) He laughed and says "that's exactly why. Only people driving the speed limit around here with tinted windows are running drugs. Good luck with this truck, hopefully the wind will shift and you can speed up!" |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:57:35 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So is it OK to go 120 in the left lane since I'm passing people? What if I'm only doing 90 in a 60, and the guy behind me on a crotch rocket wants to go 140mph? Am I the bad guy for only doing 90? So when is a speed limit a speed limit? I mean, as long as you're passing everyone, it's okay right? 'Cause it's a passing lane, after all. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:58:24 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Listen... driving is hard for some people and that JBT was just stomping all over that guy being all mellow in the left lane. Should have tazed him. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 12:59:28 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cop was right. Amen. I have never been able to figure out why people casually drive in the left lane while forcing others to pass them on the right. Perhaps deep, unresolved psychological issues. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:03:08 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I move this juror be excused for cause!! None of these violations are crimes, they are civil violations, so there aren’t any victims and no jury. Really ruins the options for the modern day John Adams. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:03:54 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Amen. I have never been able to figure out why people casually drive in the left lane while forcing others to pass them on the right. Perhaps deep, unresolved psychological issues. It's not as complicated as that. Just dumb. A lot of people are dumb. The most retarded kid in your class during elementary or high school became an adult and was issued a drivers license because all 50 states allow dumb people to get them easily. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:04:07 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a professor in law school who somehow managed to practice somewhere like Wyoming for a few years. I can't remember the state. Anyway he went to a local justice court with a non lawyer judge (common in rural NY also). He and another lawyer were arguing a case and the judge suggested they go back in the judge's office and he'd look it up. The judge pulled some books off his shelf and was reading through them as the lawyers chatted. Then future law professor said "Judge, those are Idaho law books." The judge said the town couldn't afford to buy the books for Wyoming, but someone had given him the Idaho books and he figured it was better than nothing and probably pretty much the same. Thinking about it years later the judge was probably right. That’s a story alright. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:04:45 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like Mark Lamb. However the was he describes the statute is incorrect. Actually there are 2 title 28 statutes at play: driving in right side of roadway and impeding traffic. The first statute only means that you can't drive left of the centerline of the roadway except to pass. It does not mean you can't drive in the left lane that is already on the right side of the centerline. Impeding traffic means that if you have 5 or more vehicles behind you you need to pull over to let them pass. AZ does not have a law that prohibits left lane camping. However there are often posted signs on roadways that say "keep right, except to pass". As long as no sign is present you can legally camp in the left lane. The stretch of roadway this video was filmed on does have these signs. Violation of these sign is a separate statute under failing to obey a traffic control device. 
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:04:52 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until the OP discovers Fridays with Frank. Love those videos. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:09:56 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it has a restriction of to be used for passing only. Sort of like that strip through the middle of town is for turning, you don't just drive in it. The diverse group in my location like to treat that strip as a passing lane but will refuse to use it whenever they make lefthand turns. They will literally block an oncoming lane before they figure out how to merge properly. As far as left lane camping goes in my area people go slow as fuck in it. When you get away from the Killeen/ Temple/ Hood area do people actually respect the signs and move over.... generally. On the county roads out in BFE the slower drivers tend to pull over and ride on the shoulder, if there is room so you can pass. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:11:31 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is with this fixation on the speed limit? What does the speed limit have to do with it? You. Don't. Go. In. The. Left. Lane. Unless. You're. Passing. Where are you people all getting speed limits from? Are you passing as you're doing the speed limit? No? Then get the fuck out of the left lane. It's quite simple. The idiot in the video clearly wasn't passing. Good stop and I wouldn't even be mad if the cop P.I.T.ed his ass off the road first. Learn to drive or take the bus. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So does the left lane have a higher speed limit than the right lane? What is with this fixation on the speed limit? What does the speed limit have to do with it? You. Don't. Go. In. The. Left. Lane. Unless. You're. Passing. Where are you people all getting speed limits from? Are you passing as you're doing the speed limit? No? Then get the fuck out of the left lane. It's quite simple. The idiot in the video clearly wasn't passing. Good stop and I wouldn't even be mad if the cop P.I.T.ed his ass off the road first. Learn to drive or take the bus. Because the laws conflict and are retarded much like anything the BATFe does. Shouting "I'm passing!" doesn't suddenly negate the speed limit laws. I understand the overall sentiment of allowing traffic to do what traffic does, but the laws themselves are conflicting. Let's also be honest here, most people don't "pass" in the left lane, they speed. Different on interstates, but within city limits, people just want to speed. Those two reasons are why the speed limits keep being brought up. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:12:13 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of these violations are crimes, they are civil violations, so there aren't any victims and no jury. Really ruins the options for the modern day John Adams. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I move this juror be excused for cause!! None of these violations are crimes, they are civil violations, so there aren't any victims and no jury. Really ruins the options for the modern day John Adams. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:13:44 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a story alright. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:19:07 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So is it OK to go 120 in the left lane since I'm passing people? What if I'm only doing 90 in a 60, and the guy behind me on a crotch rocket wants to go 140mph? Am I the bad guy for only doing 90? So when is a speed limit a speed limit? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:19:45 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The subsequent 1983 lawsuit gets you a jury. That's where our poor Texan is the victim. Meh. Good luck. |
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