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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:15:36 PM EDT
[#1]
This just keeps getting worse.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absence of proof is not proof of absence, or something. -Corporate speak release, putting distance between themselves and controversy. -Then pulling ad revenue because of mob outrage. -Then backpedaling on the pulling of ad revenue because of large scale cancellations by core customers. -More vague corporate speak backpedaling. -Proof that their corporate speak is bullshit when it came to light that they do support the right to self defense if they decide who gets the support. -Dubious campaign contributions coming to light. -Proof that corporate officers were cozying up to Hillary coming to light. Ok, they bungled this mess and handled it poorly.......that happens nowadays, with the speed of the internet and social media. They could have cleaned it up better with some strong statements to their core customer base, but that didn’t happen either. Ok, that’s not great, but maybe they could still have salvaged things.......but then everything else came to light. It can be hard for people to accept that the lifestyle brand that they bought into isn’t what they thought it was. Never meet your heroes, or something. So while they may not be “anti-gun” it sure doesn’t look like they’re staunchly Pro-2A either. Which is sad, when they cater and pander to the 2A demographic on the front end, but on the back end help support enemies of the 2A in some way. “Bruh. You like guns? We like guns too! You like veterans? We are veterans! You like explosions and titties in marketing? Watch our videos, we have explosions and titties! Bruh, we sell coffee with cool names like AK47, you should totally buy some, we are just like you!” So GD buys their coffee. Turns out, they aren’t quite as like GD as GD thought. Whatever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Apparently we do, but that still doesn’t mean I’m upset about it. I try to make the most rational decisions that I can, so if I see some real evidence (not circumstantial) that he’s antigun and just using us as a cash cow I’ll be as outraged as the rest of you, but we aren’t there yet. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, or something. -Corporate speak release, putting distance between themselves and controversy. -Then pulling ad revenue because of mob outrage. -Then backpedaling on the pulling of ad revenue because of large scale cancellations by core customers. -More vague corporate speak backpedaling. -Proof that their corporate speak is bullshit when it came to light that they do support the right to self defense if they decide who gets the support. -Dubious campaign contributions coming to light. -Proof that corporate officers were cozying up to Hillary coming to light. Ok, they bungled this mess and handled it poorly.......that happens nowadays, with the speed of the internet and social media. They could have cleaned it up better with some strong statements to their core customer base, but that didn’t happen either. Ok, that’s not great, but maybe they could still have salvaged things.......but then everything else came to light. It can be hard for people to accept that the lifestyle brand that they bought into isn’t what they thought it was. Never meet your heroes, or something. So while they may not be “anti-gun” it sure doesn’t look like they’re staunchly Pro-2A either. Which is sad, when they cater and pander to the 2A demographic on the front end, but on the back end help support enemies of the 2A in some way. “Bruh. You like guns? We like guns too! You like veterans? We are veterans! You like explosions and titties in marketing? Watch our videos, we have explosions and titties! Bruh, we sell coffee with cool names like AK47, you should totally buy some, we are just like you!” So GD buys their coffee. Turns out, they aren’t quite as like GD as GD thought. Whatever. I’m not arguing innocence, I’m saying I want more evidence. The situation has been handled poorly, no doubt. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:15:46 PM EDT
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FBRCC is about to crash and burn. They just ostracized their only demographic.
I gave up their coffee long ago. Why pay $20 for 12 oz of coffee when I can get (actually better) coffee at Costco at 2lbs for $12? Done, and I'm going to scrape their stupid sticker off my safe. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG Is there any proof one way or the other? Either way that would pretty much settle this situation. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:17:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, they seem to think this is about the Blaze or Kyle. They are pretending like Evan supporting anti 2A politicians isn't happening. Fucking Karens of the gun world. Who has time for this shit? You don't have a job? You took the time to get on a chat with a BRCC rep and ask a bunch of questions that you already knew the answer to? Why? Left, Right, Twitter, Parler. Doesn't matter. Same people everywhere you go. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Folgers isn’t using fake support of the 2nd amendment to sell coffee. This is the most important fact in this thread. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:18:08 PM EDT
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Honest question, could someone have donated and used his name/BRCC as the donor info?
FBRCC anyway, but I'm curious. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:18:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are they going to rename and rebrand into something else after this? BLM coffee? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are they going to rename and rebrand into something else after this? A few names have been floated 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honest question, could someone have donated and used his name/BRCC as the donor info? FBRCC anyway, but I'm curious. Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:20:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:20:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one told him that they're on an actual .gov website, lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:21:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honest question, could someone have donated and used his name/BRCC as the donor info? FBRCC anyway, but I'm curious. If someone did, I would think that it would be illegal and provable. If Hafer doesn't publicly take up the issue with the FEC and show it to be some kind of set up or fraud (which is possible in today's world, I'll at least grant him that)....then the dude is lying his ass off |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:21:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG is that real?? if evan is truly claiming that the FEC website isnt real and that the donations images going around are photoshopped then that has to truly be his biggest fuck up of this whole ordeal. way to lose credibility instantaneously 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:22:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your being vocal with your wallet is actually more cancelling that being vocal with your mouth. Cancelling is an attempt to make another person or company do as you would like or not 'do' anymore because of your actions. This thread is being used to educate other of like mind and attempt to have them come to the same conclusions. Pink Pussy hats scream and tweet. GD discusses the finer points of logos and donations while switching coffee brands. Potato / Potato I'm kind of confused by your point here. People bought overpriced coffee from this company because they liked the marketing/image (and they put out some great videos). Now they find out that the marketing/image is completely without substance, and they don't want to support what has now been shown to be bullshit. Are you trying to say that everyone is somehow morally obligated to keep buying their overpriced coffee now that they don't want it? We have to support them because we liked their image before finding out the truth? I'm struggling with that logic. To the other posters point - nobody is screaming to have him fired, or to replace him, or whatever. People just don't want to pay the premium for their product anymore. How many products do we all need to purchase so you feel ok with the world? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:22:06 PM EDT
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The skinny jean hipster look did not inspire confidence that these were die hard gun guys. I just never got the gun guy vibe from BRCC. Initially, during the dark days/weeks/months/years of the Obummer Presidency, BRCC ads on Facebook were a bit refreshing. But, the one guy had that skinny-pants hipster look (which is appalling). Looking back, to me, it seems they were just looking to exploit a market of people who were constantly being bashed by the left.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. It's possible. Though who has such a huge axe to grind against Evan that they'd be willing to shell out thousands of dollars in donations in his name? They'd also need a time machine or have consulted a psychic. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honest question, could someone have donated and used his name/BRCC as the donor info? FBRCC anyway, but I'm curious. Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. Yes, they did it just for this eventually. Obviously. Just to make inked up bro coffee company look bad in case anyone ever checked. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:22:40 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. .... |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:23:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: is that real?? if evan is truly claiming that the FEC website isnt real and that the donations images going around are photoshopped then that has to truly be his biggest fuck up of this whole ordeal. way to lose credibility instantaneously It's on his IG as we speak. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:23:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honest question, could someone have donated and used his name/BRCC as the donor info? FBRCC anyway, but I'm curious. Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. To what end would someone willingly commit a federal crime to do that? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I said earlier in the thread, this is a black and white world now whether you like it or not. Personally, I don't consider supporting Commies on the backs of freedom loving Americans "trivial dumb shit" regardless of whatever else the person may have done. I found it detestable when Trump donated to Commies regardless of the justification some here put forth and I've never supported him in a primary and, I find it equally detestable when Evan Hafer does it. ETA: As Lug said, you do you. That's how freedom works. I know what I'm going to do, however, and that's not continue to buy a product from a company that will turn around and give that money to Dems. Not when there's other free market options like Stocking Mill Coffee. This is not a black and white world and your delusional if you believe. If you only have anything to do with people that completely agree with you on every subject it’s going to be just you. Keep up the virtue signaling though. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:24:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG  The scary part is the low IQ's that will believe him that it is photoshopped without going to the website to confirm.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:24:50 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The skinny jean hipster look did not inspire confidence that these were die hard gun guys. I just never got the gun guy vibe from BRCC. Initially, during the dark days/weeks/months/years of the Obummer Presidency, BRCC ads on Facebook were a bit refreshing. But, the one guy had that skinny-pants hipster look (which is appalling). Looking back, to me, it seems they were just looking to exploit a market of people who were constantly being bashed by the left. Sometimes people don’t all dress the same. The fact they wear Sitka gave me pause. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:25:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well if he's not lying he probably needs to take that up with the FEC, as it shows an Evan Hafer employed by BRCC donating to ACTBLUE. How many Evan Hafer's work for BRCC? Have you personally looked at the FEC website searching his name as a contributor? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:26:57 PM EDT
[#27]
200 years of freedom, but you pussy out when a gun user defends himself.
  Because America, That's Why. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:27:05 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honest question, could someone have donated and used his name/BRCC as the donor info? FBRCC anyway, but I'm curious. Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. It would be tax fraud on whomever did it. They've still done enough in the last 48 hours to make me question my continued financial support of their products. They could redeem themselves at some point though, but who knows. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:27:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Evan really does think his customers are retards. Photoshopped? We know how the internet works.
Giving $500 to the Dems in Texas in 2019...fuck that guy. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:27:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:27:19 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. But keep that logic the fuck outta this Karen thread. 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:28:16 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you personally looked at the FEC website searching his name as a contributor? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well if he's not lying he probably needs to take that up with the FEC, as it shows an Evan Hafer employed by BRCC donating to ACTBLUE. How many Evan Hafer's work for BRCC? Have you personally looked at the FEC website searching his name as a contributor? I have. Donation to Tulsi Gabbard shows as ActBlue earmarked to Tulsi. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:28:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not arguing innocence, I’m saying I want more evidence. The situation has been handled poorly, no doubt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Apparently we do, but that still doesn’t mean I’m upset about it. I try to make the most rational decisions that I can, so if I see some real evidence (not circumstantial) that he’s antigun and just using us as a cash cow I’ll be as outraged as the rest of you, but we aren’t there yet. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, or something. -Corporate speak release, putting distance between themselves and controversy. -Then pulling ad revenue because of mob outrage. -Then backpedaling on the pulling of ad revenue because of large scale cancellations by core customers. -More vague corporate speak backpedaling. -Proof that their corporate speak is bullshit when it came to light that they do support the right to self defense if they decide who gets the support. -Dubious campaign contributions coming to light. -Proof that corporate officers were cozying up to Hillary coming to light. Ok, they bungled this mess and handled it poorly.......that happens nowadays, with the speed of the internet and social media. They could have cleaned it up better with some strong statements to their core customer base, but that didn’t happen either. Ok, that’s not great, but maybe they could still have salvaged things.......but then everything else came to light. It can be hard for people to accept that the lifestyle brand that they bought into isn’t what they thought it was. Never meet your heroes, or something. So while they may not be “anti-gun” it sure doesn’t look like they’re staunchly Pro-2A either. Which is sad, when they cater and pander to the 2A demographic on the front end, but on the back end help support enemies of the 2A in some way. “Bruh. You like guns? We like guns too! You like veterans? We are veterans! You like explosions and titties in marketing? Watch our videos, we have explosions and titties! Bruh, we sell coffee with cool names like AK47, you should totally buy some, we are just like you!” So GD buys their coffee. Turns out, they aren’t quite as like GD as GD thought. Whatever. I’m not arguing innocence, I’m saying I want more evidence. The situation has been handled poorly, no doubt. You must have been on OJs jury |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:29:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you personally looked at the FEC website searching his name as a contributor? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well if he's not lying he probably needs to take that up with the FEC, as it shows an Evan Hafer employed by BRCC donating to ACTBLUE. How many Evan Hafer's work for BRCC? Have you personally looked at the FEC website searching his name as a contributor? There was a link in the OP. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:29:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there any proof one way or the other? Either way that would pretty much settle this situation. It is on a government website - right now. So either hackers hacked his account to tell us that is was photoshopped, and made people contacting BRCC get no answers..... - OR - The photoshoppers also hacked a government computer and changed the database to match their previous photoshopping...... - OR - He is full of shit. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:30:04 PM EDT
[#36]
He can shove the photoshop claim right up his (D) ass. I took plenty of unaltered screenshots if he'd like to have them.
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=hafer%2C+evan ETA:  
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:30:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have. Donation to Tulsi Gabbard shows as ActBlue earmarked to Tulsi. What happened to the rest of the supposed donations to Obama and McCain and the guy in Nevada? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:30:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you personally looked at the FEC website searching his name as a contributor? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:30:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has Donald ever donated to any pro-gun groups? Can you go one thread without crying about Trump or dragging him into everything? Pathetic |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Click on the arrow to the right of the “$500” for the details. https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=Evan+hafer+&two_year_transaction_period=2020&min_date=01%2F01%2F2000&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. Click on the arrow to the right of the “$500” for the details. https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=Evan+hafer+&two_year_transaction_period=2020&min_date=01%2F01%2F2000&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020 Interesting. Going to sit back and see how this plays out. If he is in fact lying he’s gonna have a hard time climbing out if that hole. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:31:39 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have, and even posted the direct link a few pages back with the actual search criteria used to look up the info. I understand healthy skepticism, but you're being intentionally obtuse. Edit: Let me help. https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_city=Austin&contributor_city=Bourne&contributor_city=Salt+Lake+City&contributor_city=San+Antonio&contributor_city=Sparks&contributor_employer=Black+Rifle+Coffee&min_date=01%2F01%2F2014&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020 No I’m not. What happened to the rest of the donations linked to him in this thread? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:31:53 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Evan is claiming the donations are photoshopped. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274532/Screenshot_20201123-110653_png-1698143.JPG Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. Boomers..... https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=hafer%2C+evan |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happened to the rest of the supposed donations to Obama and McCain and the guy in Nevada? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have. Donation to Tulsi Gabbard shows as ActBlue earmarked to Tulsi. What happened to the rest of the supposed donations to Obama and McCain and the guy in Nevada? They’re there too, I was just referring to him saying Actblue was false. 20 years of Hafer |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:33:59 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No I’m not. What happened to the rest of the donations linked to him in this thread? In the OP |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:34:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: Except they aren’t. At least not that I can find. Quoted: is that real?? if evan is truly claiming that the FEC website isnt real and that the donations images going around are photoshopped then that has to truly be his biggest fuck up of this whole ordeal. way to lose credibility instantaneously Here you go: FEC CONTRIBUTIONS BY BRCC EMPLOYEES SINCE 2016 FEC CONTRIBUTIONS BY EVAN HAFER SINCE 2000 |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No I’m not. What happened to the rest of the donations linked to him in this thread? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have, and even posted the direct link a few pages back with the actual search criteria used to look up the info. I understand healthy skepticism, but you're being intentionally obtuse. Edit: Let me help. https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_city=Austin&contributor_city=Bourne&contributor_city=Salt+Lake+City&contributor_city=San+Antonio&contributor_city=Sparks&contributor_employer=Black+Rifle+Coffee&min_date=01%2F01%2F2014&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020 No I’m not. What happened to the rest of the donations linked to him in this thread? .... |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:34:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Bolshevik Rifle Company  |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:35:08 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re there too, I was just referring to him saying Actblue was false. I see them now on a link posted. He’s got some splainin to do. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:36:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are they going to rename and rebrand into something else after this? Confiscated Rifle Coffee |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 2:36:21 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see them now on a link posted. He’s got some splainin to do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They’re there too, I was just referring to him saying Actblue was false. I see them now on a link posted. He’s got some splainin to do. Yup I added the link. There were filters earlier. |
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