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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:21:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know about the two parties coming together over something unifying, as both seem to have been hijacked by their fringe elements as of late, but there has been much bemoaning recently of both the brokenness of the two-party system, and the direction that their chosen party is going. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I cant remember the last time I heard someone say that. I cant even remember the last time I've seen anyone post that on the net without 20 heckles to follow,.. except on this forum. I don’t know about the two parties coming together over something unifying, as both seem to have been hijacked by their fringe elements as of late, but there has been much bemoaning recently of both the brokenness of the two-party system, and the direction that their chosen party is going. Yeah, well, the fbi raided Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:24:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, well, the fbi raided Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home. Yeah..... FBI had a warrant ! |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:26:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah..... FBI had a warrant ! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, well, the fbi raided Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home. Yeah..... FBI had a warrant ! And I'm sure it was like 86% legit 
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:32:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I'm sure it was like 86% legit In your opinion, is it even possible that DJT engaged in wrongdoing deserving of the service of a search warrant? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:32:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I'm sure it was like 86% legit The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!! |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:34:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In your opinion, is it even possible that DJT engaged in wrongdoing deserving of the service of a search warrant? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:34:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!! 
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:37:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Claiming it's not possible for DJT to never commit a crime is as bad as gobbling everything we know about this story from MSM and assuming DJT is 100% guilty of something. I agree. I’m just thinking about the way this plays out. Regardless of the outcome, there are going to be significant percentages of the population who simply refuse to accept the legitimacy of how it turns out. And I can’t say I blame them. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:38:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I'm just thinking about the way this plays out. Regardless of the outcome, there are going to be significant percentages of the population who simply refuse to accept the legitimacy of how it turns out. And I can't say I blame them. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 8:53:19 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:02:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!! Last investigation of Trump, the KGBI lied on a FISA warrant, which is why one of their agents is now a convicted felon. Want to give your statement another try? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:06:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And I'm sure it was like 86% legit The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!! Sure thing lil dude! How short was the bus you took to school today? Did you drink all your chocolate milk? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:08:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI’ve always put our nation above individual politicians or political parties. At this point, I don’t know which outcome will be the least damaging to America. A corrupted president who is indicted and convicted (and the millions of his supporters who still support him anyway), or a corrupted federal DoJ and Intel community who were weaponized against an innocent president. Either way, I’m hoping for absolute transparency. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:11:05 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:15:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve always put our nation above individual politicians or political parties. At this point, I don’t know which outcome will be the least damaging to America. A corrupted president who is indicted and convicted (and the millions of his supporters who still support him anyway), or a corrupted federal DoJ and Intel community who were weaponized against an innocent president. Either way, I’m hoping for absolute transparent. When is Biden getting indicted? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:16:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!! Okay, so what facts in this matter do you have knowledge of that we do not, because you are sounding awfully damn certain, so please enlighten us. It’s really hard to not believe Trump is being unfairly targeted to keep him from running again. You know, after all the other sham investigations and impeachment. America has been dead ever since the left has started using government agencies to target those they don’t agree with and turning a blind eye to what their supporters and they themselves do in violation of the laws of this great country. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:17:10 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:17:36 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:18:29 PM EST
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So are we at the "all warrants are just fine because the judge would never sign it" point yet?
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:19:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, are you back again? Still waiting for you to show me where you've ever disparaged a Democrat or a communist by name other then Pelosi AFTER I called you out on it. No, are you back again? What the hell does what I write about Democrats or Communist have to do with this particular topic? You're a spindrift away from being labeled a half-crackpot at this point. For avoidance of doubt, I am under zero obligation to cede to your beck and call. Nor is it my duty to spend my time to go rummaging through years of post to fulfill your request. Your search button works just as good as mine - do your own homework. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:20:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When is Biden getting indicted? |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:26:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I got an alert earlier a judge has instructed the DOJ to redact the affidavit for release next week. How bad do you think it is going to be chopped up with blacked out sections to mask so called “sources and methods?” I bet the release is going to cause even more backlash. Not that it matters at this point. But it should be an interesting news day for sure. I doubt any more or less than the evidence that was barred from being brought into the original impeachment hearings after the GOP changed rules and controlled the process of discovery submittal and who could be called onto the witness roster. That said, it is far from non-standard protocol to redact the names of witnesses and sources. In fact, it's essential to do so until a trial for reasons that should be breathtakingly obvious to most. The good thing is at trial, one side cannot bar a witness from testifying. The Defense has every right to call a Prosecution's witness to the stand and cross examine them for truthfulness and fidelity. And a good trial lawyer will absolutely burn down an untruthful witness / source - or have it discredited if indeed fabricated. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:27:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last investigation of Trump, the KGBI lied on a FISA warrant, which is why one of their agents is now a convicted felon. Want to give your statement another try? While I don’t think anyone can conclude Trump has broken laws pertaining to handling classified at this point, a good number of Trump’s associates are convicted felons, including close associates. He ain’t exactly the sparkling clean guy people wish he was. The burden of proof of is on the FBI and DOJ to prove he violated the laws they listed on the search warrant. Based on what has been released so far, I am not convinced he did. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:28:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When is Biden getting indicted? Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:30:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FBI did nothing wrong. Trump is not above the law. If he is then America is DEAD !!!  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:33:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't care. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When is Biden getting indicted? You can't blame them. Pedos stick together. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:33:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah..... FBI had a warrant ! They had a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. Problem was they falsified documents, and lied on the FISA form to get the warrant, which is one why one of their agents in now a convicted felon. The KGBI is a thoroughly corrupt organization. It was founded by a homosexual transvestite, who used the immense power of the Bureau to spy on his political enemies, and make himself into an unaccountable, and un-fireable bureaucratic dictator for life. And he was the best Director they've had - it's been downhill since then. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:34:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When is Biden getting indicted? Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. Well you better believe it because we're in one now. "Criminally" going after former office holders was the real 3rd rail in politics and the Demonkkkrats just said "hold my beer". The Cadaver Synod comes to mind as to what lies ahead. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:36:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize that there’s oversight and compliance measures…and that these accusations of them “making shit up” are literally retarded. Like, if any of you have worked in or with the federal government at any level of middle mgmt or higher, you know this. 
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:37:27 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:37:51 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:38:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You do realize that there's oversight and compliance measures and that these accusations of them "making shit up" are literally retarded. Like, if any of you have worked in or with the federal government at any level of middle mgmt or higher, you know this.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:38:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. I fully agree with you but what I want and the reality I’m facing are often two totally different things. Personally, even if the GOP didn’t follow suit and thrash the left in retaliation, I don’t believe the left will take their foot off the gas as they only see their goals as righteous. The path to that goal is irrelevant. At this point, the GOP can go in either direction so who knows. I know we’re pushing them to retaliate and I fully admit I want my pound of flesh but I also realize the cost. Yes, it’s a bit hypocritical on my part, but I do want them punished for their acts. How they behave after that is up to them. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:40:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. Problem was they falsified documents, and lied on the FISA form to get the warrant, which is one why one of their agents in now a convicted felon. The KGBI is a thoroughly corrupt organization. It was founded by a homosexual transvestite, who used the immense power of the Bureau to spy on his political enemies, and make himself into an unaccountable, and un-fireable bureaucratic dictator for life. And he was the best Director they've had - it's been downhill since then. Not a Hoover fan, but the line about him being a cross dresser is well documented KGB Active Measures garbage the Soviets circulated. Required reading: “The Sword and the Shield” by Christopher Andrew and Vasily Mitrokhin. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:44:42 PM EST
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:46:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn't tell ya. I sure don't believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:47:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When is Biden getting indicted? Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. No one is above the law. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:48:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, this Qtah guy is taking heavy hits of the "whooooo" pack. Obama? He ran against Obama and lost. And by extension, lost again, when he lost to Biden. McCain? McCain returned to being a Senator and died of brain cancer during his term - a hero. Unlike 'Bone Spurs McDraftdodge'. (Bone spurs, but known for playing 7 hours and 2 full rounds of Golf in a day. )Cheney? Probably but that was more because she turned against the party hard-liners. Bush? Huh? All the Bush's were out of politics except Jeb. Although Trump did end Billy Bush's dynasty on TV.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, this Qtah guy is taking heavy hits of the "whooooo" pack. Obama? He ran against Obama and lost. And by extension, lost again, when he lost to Biden. McCain? McCain returned to being a Senator and died of brain cancer during his term - a hero. Unlike 'Bone Spurs McDraftdodge'. (Bone spurs, but known for playing 7 hours and 2 full rounds of Golf in a day. )Cheney? Probably but that was more because she turned against the party hard-liners. Bush? Huh? All the Bush's were out of politics except Jeb. Although Trump did end Billy Bush's dynasty on TV. And here we go again. Your talking points are straight out of the leftist narrative. "Bone Spurs McDraftdodge"? Wow, That's straight out of DU. Your TDS is showing badly. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:49:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize that there’s oversight and compliance measures…and that these accusations of them “making shit up” are literally retarded. Like, if any of you have worked in or with the federal government at any level of middle mgmt or higher, you know this. 
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:49:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I fully agree with you but what I want and the reality I’m facing are often two totally different things. Personally, even if the GOP didn’t follow suit and thrash the left in retaliation, I don’t believe the left will take their foot off the gas as they only see their goals as righteous. The path to that goal is irrelevant. At this point, the GOP can go in either direction so who knows. I know we’re pushing them to retaliate and I fully admit I want my pound of flesh but I also realize the cost. Yes, it’s a bit hypocritical on my part, but I do want them punished for their acts. How they behave after that is up to them. My personal experience tells me that there is a vast political middle in America, encompassing probably 85% of our country. A few policy differences, but at the end of the day, having similar visions for America. It’s the 15% of both fringes driving the wedge. The militant left weaponizing our federal institutions is no different than those on the right encouraging throwing their countrymen out of helicopters. Neither is representative of an America I want. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:49:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, this Qtah guy is taking heavy hits of the "whooooo" pack. Obama? He ran against Obama and lost. And by extension, lost again, when he lost to Biden. McCain? McCain returned to being a Senator and died of brain cancer during his term - a hero. Unlike 'Bone Spurs McDraftdodge'. (Bone spurs, but known for playing 7 hours and 2 full rounds of Golf in a day. )Cheney? Probably but that was more because she turned against the party hard-liners. Bush? Huh? All the Bush's were out of politics except Jeb. Although Trump did end Billy Bush's dynasty on TV. Rubbish. Trump didn't run against Obama. The Clinton dynasty is finished, via Trump, instead of her being elected in 2016. McCain died being loved by those who he loved back - Democrats and the media. That turd showed his true colors when Trump was elected, and now most Republicans spit on the ground when that turd's name is mentioned, I know I do. Some legacy. Cheney was 100% flushed down the commode via her attacks on Trump. She's still a right wing conservative on bills in the House, but her change into Mrs. Ahab chasing the Trump whale ruined her career. She'll try to eek out staying in the spotlight via being a court jester on MSDNC, till she's humiliated in 24 in a run for president. Trump beat, and humiliated Jeb! to the point that everyone puts the exclamation point after his name. The GOP establishment spent 100 millions bucks on him to be the designed loser for 2016, and all they got out of it was being a punch line. Plus Jeb!'s son, the worthless George P Bush XIII, lost in the GOP primary for Texas Attorney General, to a Trump endorsed candidate, so another family dynsaty Trump gutted, and pitched into the trash heap. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:51:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In your opinion, is it even possible that DJT engaged in wrongdoing deserving of the service of a search warrant? In your opinion, how have they not managed to find Trump's crimes after investigating him for 6 years straight? They even forged evidence and STILL couldn't find shit. But now, now they got him!  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:51:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In your opinion, is it even possible that DJT engaged in wrongdoing deserving of the service of a search warrant? In your opinion, how have they not managed to find Trump's crimes after investigating him for 6 years straight? They even forged evidence and STILL couldn't find shit. But now, now they got him! Attached File |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:53:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When is Biden getting indicted? Couldn’t tell ya. I sure don’t believe in an America where two parties go back and forth indicting their political opposition every 2 or 4 years as soon as they take power though. That's one thing we can agree on, but is not likely to happen. There are a lot of us on the right tired of the incessant pursuit of Trump and anyone surrounding him, while the establishment completely ignores the criminality on the left. The establishment has to dig and dig and fabricate shit on those surrounding Trump. The most recent - "He's got classified material he's not supposed to have, MAYBE EVEN THE NUKE CODES" !!! While Clinton's bathroom server was known to have contained classified material, was accessed by foreigners and nobody did shit. IRS - Targeted conservative groups for audits. ATF - Trafficked guns into Mexico, to prove that guns were being trafficked into Mexico. Swallwell - Banging a Chinese Spy. Feinstein - Chinese Spy for a driver. FBI - Lied about FISA warrant to spy on Trump. CJCS - Colluded with China. Who was it, State Department? Lied to the sitting President about how many troops were in Syria. Why don't we have a fucking border wall and have enough drugs coming across every day to kill the residents of entire states? Oh, because the left fought the wall at every step. You know why people were pissed about the election? "Hey, we're supposed to have observers from both sides observing the ballot count!" Shut the fuck up, you fucking racist!! "Why did the counting stop in four states at the same time? FUCK YOU, YOU HATE DEMOCRACY!!! "The laws in this state say you can't do mass mail-in voting!" I'm a judge and I just said we can. At every step, even when legitimate concerns were raised by serious people, they were squashed. And on, and on, and on. The right has continued to take it in the ass (figuratively) for fucking years. And we're fucking tired of it. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:54:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In your opinion, is it even possible that DJT engaged in wrongdoing deserving of the service of a search warrant? No |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:55:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My personal experience tells me that there is a vast political middle in America, encompassing probably 85% of our country. A few policy differences, but at the end of the day, having similar visions for America. It’s the 15% of both fringes driving the wedge. The militant left weaponizing our federal institutions is no different than those on the right encouraging throwing their countrymen out of helicopters. Neither is representative of an America I want. Your 85%, which you pulled out of the air, isn't involved in policies, so what they want won't count in the end. Holding hands and singing songs happy talk aside, there are major differences between left and right on every issue - abortion, race quotas, guns, welfare, global warmish, debt, who pays for health care, cutting tits and dicks off kids if they think they want it. Rubbish happy talk about "everyone wants their kids to grow up in a country where we all get along and can have a safe and happy future ..." isn't the real world of America in 2022. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:56:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In your opinion, how have they not managed to find Trump's crimes after investigating him for 6 years straight? They even forged evidence and STILL couldn't find shit. But now, now they got him! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Jennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up_zps5c0357b9_GIF-103.gif I’ve been clear that I don’t support this FBI raid, or the DoJ warrant that authorized it, based on the last 6 years of precedent. That said, I’m still waiting to see what comes from it. With an open, but jaded mind. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 10:00:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been clear that I don’t support this FBI raid, or the DoJ warrant that authorized it, based on the last 6 years of precedent. That said, I’m still waiting to see what comes from it. With an open, but jaded mind. I have an open mind too but they won't let us see the unredacted affidavit so mind is closed. FBI and DOJ are lying thugs. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 10:05:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In your opinion, how have they not managed to find Trump's crimes after investigating him for 6 years straight? They even forged evidence and STILL couldn't find shit. But now, now they got him! Exactly. President Trump has been under illegal surveillance for years, and yet they couldn't find anything that could bring him down. Pencil neck schiff kept saying "I have seen evidence," during russiagate, but we now know he lied. We know his taxes are good because both the irs and ny state probably has a dedicated team just to go through his taxes every year trying to find that gotcha. The fact that the "investigators" had to lie, make up evidence, to keep an "investigation" going ought to tell you they are persecuting someone, rather than investigating a crime based on evidence of said crime. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 10:08:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an open mind too but they won't let us see the unredacted affidavit so mind is closed. FBI and DOJ are lying thugs. I hear what you are saying. The affidavit may be being kept sealed because it is bogus bullshit. On the other hand, it may still be sealed for legitimate purposes. Everybody is speculating. Nobody knows. At least not my fellow GD shitposters. |
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