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Link Posted: 4/14/2024 1:57:23 PM EST
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I believe that depends on your location. New York =problem.

Texas =  not so much.

Excellent analogy though.
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Lol you don't even need an analogy for this one

What if Israel had no missile defense?

Yeah it's an act of war and I hope they find their balls and bring it.

All the huffing on social media doesn't inspire though.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:01:47 PM EST
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BUT.....The US and the Biden Administration is trying to tie the hands of Israel...............  who is the real enemy here folk...its not Iran....Its BIDEN and this administration...they are enemies of the American people, our nation and Israel....
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:03:37 PM EST
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We have always been at war with Iran and the Houthis.
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I'm seeing reports Israel spent $1.3B ~ on last night's defense in fuel and munitions. A little concerning with regards to moving forward, especially with the hezzie stockpiles of rockets.


99% of the statistics you see on the internet are made up.



Everything I say is a lie.



We have always been at war with Iran and the Houthis.

That command ship in the sea over there needs a few torpedos and a Turbo Popeye or two shoved up it's ass
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:07:37 PM EST
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There are probably 50 people in Iran that could believably call themselves an engineer. Maybe another 25 willing to work for the shitbirds on contract.

Then there's maybe 10 industrial spots that make all the shiny new weapons, and five guys that more or less run the country,
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Do you just make this stuff up? Iran is known for its number of engineers. STEM was made a priority after the revolution since a lot of the educated fled the country.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:11:21 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:13:05 PM EST
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They will have it soon.  Iran can find a way to nuke tiny Israel which is only the size of NJ. They could sneak it in an airliner which Israel would not shoot. They could hide it in a container on a ship with a different country of origin  and once in Israel, then transport it into Tel Aviv. It only takes one nuke and suicide bomber to devastate Israel.
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It’s questionable if a nuke would get past Arrow 3.

That would be really awkward.

They will have it soon.  Iran can find a way to nuke tiny Israel which is only the size of NJ. They could sneak it in an airliner which Israel would not shoot. They could hide it in a container on a ship with a different country of origin  and once in Israel, then transport it into Tel Aviv. It only takes one nuke and suicide bomber to devastate Israel.


Could be, but based on the tried and true Middle East axiom of “watch what they do, not what they say”, the mullahs seem hell bent on keeping what they have above everything else.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:13:43 PM EST
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Do you just make this stuff up? Iran is known for its number or engineers. STEM was made a priority after the revolution since a lot of the educated fled the country.
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It’s GD, mostly we are made up of folks with old knowledge, no knowledge, excessive doom or excessive optimism.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:17:34 PM EST
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I think some of you all are failing to realize this is not just about Israel/US versus Iran.

Iran is in alliance with Russia, China, Turkey, etc.  The ignorance being shown here, talking about how primitive Iran is...well, look who is supporting them and watching from a close distance? This is going to turn into a world war without a doubt. Israel is already planning an attack on Iran.  This is a prime example of a proxy war that is getting ready to spiral out of control.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:18:17 PM EST
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When we have to make specific *news only* threads because of all the binary bullshittery and straight up misinformation you know it's gone to hell. This place used to be fantastic, and still is to an extent, about covering breaking news but damn it's a lot more painful to try to wade through all the fucktardery.
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What is odd is how much more visible these people are making themselves today. Of course after almost 8 years of misbehavior by cretins with no real discernable penalty...


When we have to make specific *news only* threads because of all the binary bullshittery and straight up misinformation you know it's gone to hell. This place used to be fantastic, and still is to an extent, about covering breaking news but damn it's a lot more painful to try to wade through all the fucktardery.
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Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:18:27 PM EST
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So, just trying to clear up information regarding the assets the potatus gave to Iran, timeline is rough, don't have all the dates, just a rough summary:

1. At some point, Iranians evaded sanctions and sold oil, they got caught and 6 billion dollars got frozen in a South Korean bank.

2. Sept. 2023 - The potatus (really and truthfully Blinken who I believe is FJB's main handler) agrees to un-freeze the 6BN in assets and also to release 5 convicted Iranian spies in return for Iran releasing 5 kidnap victims (allegedly spies, bullshit charges). Iran continues it's legacy of being lowlife kidnappers since 1979.

3. Money is transferred to Qatar, where it is to be doled out to the Iranians for "humanitarian use only"...yeah right.

4. Oct. 2023 - In the aftermath of the Oct. 7 terrorist attack on Israel, Rep. Mike McCaul of Texas, introduces the "No Funds for Iranian Terrorism Act" in the House on 10/16, act is specifically to STOP the transfer of funds to the Iranian terrorists.

5. Nov. 2023 - The act passes the House with significant bipartisan support 307-119 on 11/30.

6. Dec. 2023 - Bill is delivered to Senate, who promptly kick it to committee on foreign relations on 12/04. Where it has apparently died a quiet death thanks to Senate commies who support terrorism.

7. So as far as I know, Iran is still getting the 6 billion. And pretty obviously using it for the exact opposite of "humanitarian" issues.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:20:38 PM EST
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I think some of you all are failing to realize this is not just about Israel/US versus Iran.

Iran is in alliance with Russia, China, Turkey, etc.  The ignorance being shown here, talking about how primitive Iran is...well, kook who is supporting them and watching from a close distance? This is going to turn into a world war without a doubt. Israel is already planning an attack on Iran.  This is a prime example of a proxy war that is getting ready to spiral out of control.
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Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:22:09 PM EST
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Iran has been a problem for decades. Israel nuking them is not something I want to see. I know if this goes hot it could spill over here at home, via terror cells and hacking. In a perfect world Iran gets a conventional beating and regime change with no ill effects here. With so much going on in the world, I fear this could spiral out of control.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:25:17 PM EST
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I think some of you all are failing to realize this is not just about Israel/US versus Iran.

Iran is in alliance with Russia, China, Turkey, etc.  The ignorance being shown here, talking about how primitive Iran is...well, kook who is supporting them and watching from a close distance? This is going to turn into a world war without a doubt. Israel is already planning an attack on Iran.  This is a prime example of a proxy war that is getting ready to spiral out of control.
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Got a timeline?

I balk at any grand proclamations of world war after digesting the same content from Ukraine and Gaza.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:30:26 PM EST
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Operation Praying Mantis 2 would be a good start.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:31:08 PM EST
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Hurry up Jew-bros. I can’t keep an erection for two days like I could when I was a teenager.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:33:58 PM EST
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I think some of you all are failing to realize this is not just about Israel/US versus Iran.

Iran is in alliance with Russia, China, Turkey, etc.  The ignorance being shown here, talking about how primitive Iran is...well, kook who is supporting them and watching from a close distance? This is going to turn into a world war without a doubt. Israel is already planning an attack on Iran.  This is a prime example of a proxy war that is getting ready to spiral out of control.
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The great news for the world is Pedo Biden man is the leader of the free world and he will save us. Orange man is bad.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:34:15 PM EST
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The Battle of Britain probably had larger air intercepts than last night.  Also, some of the BoB intercepts had German fighter cover and the German medium bombers and Stukas could shoot back at the interceptors, unlike the drones and missiles.
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The Germans never lost 300 units in a single assault\surprise attack during the BoB.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:34:51 PM EST
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I think some of you all are failing to realize this is not just about Israel/US versus Iran.

Iran is in alliance with Russia, China, Turkey, etc.  The ignorance being shown here, talking about how primitive Iran is...well, kook who is supporting them and watching from a close distance? This is going to turn into a world war without a doubt. Israel is already planning an attack on Iran.  This is a prime example of a proxy war that is getting ready to spiral out of control.
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With who? Russia? They can't handle Ukraine.
China? Look to their last dust up with Vietnam.
It's just a material of time till China makes a move on Siberia.
The natural resources are way too tempting.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:37:19 PM EST
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Western leaders think they are above war.  Like the militaries are to keep the rabble in line and not to prosecute a hard nose fight should it come to that. The US could not pull off the 1991 Gulf War again.  2003 had a bunch of issues it shouldnt have had.
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Agreed 100% and it's both sad and frightening. I grew up when most young men considered it their duty to fight for their nation should the need arise. These days, the military seems like it's run more like a fortune 500 company than a fighting force.

The underlying weakness of the west is that the west thinks people around the world are motivated by the same things that westerners are. It's our fatal flaw. Some folks can't be bought with blue jeans and the promise of opportunity...and when those same folks decide to fight, they aren't concerned with Geneva convention practiced and rule of engagement. The west has forgotten how to win a fight against savage warriors.  

I think that a lot of liberals like to believe that when called upon, Americans will 'step up' and do what is necessary to keep our nation safe. The reality is that people don't 'step up'...they simply default to their training. When we trained men to ignore pain, endure suffering, use violence, and fight for survival,  our forces were capable of stabilizing the globe. Now we train people that pronouns matter, that guys can get pregnant, and that hurting someone's feelings with words is the same thing as violence. Not surprisingly, we have an entire nation of youth who can't fight, don't exercise, and if pushed to the edge would probably jump off rather that turn and face their oppressor.

The gates leading to Valhalla don't get much use any more.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:38:07 PM EST
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Really ?
You're going to imply the current administration's deturant is stronger than deturant during Trumps tenure ?

There are truly some goofy fucking people on ARF .
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Soleimani remembers
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:38:57 PM EST
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The reality is this was the path we are heading down anyways one way or another something is going to kick it off. Imagine it was us, would you hold back because you are afraid it will kick something off? The reality is this is inevitable, the battle lines have been drawn and people have been picking sides for quite a while. Weak men have made this situation and appeasement of the bullies is not going to stop them. It is going to take everyone going all in to stop this shit, and the world will never look the same again. Everyone has been seeing this coming.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:41:54 PM EST
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Agreed 100% and it's both sad and frightening. I grew up when most young men considered it their duty to fight for their nation should the need arise. These days, the military seems like it's run more like a fortune 500 company than a fighting force.

The underlying weakness of the west is that the west thinks people around the world are motivated by the same things that westerners are. It's our fatal flaw. Some folks can't be bought with blue jeans and the promise of opportunity...and when those same folks decide to fight, they aren't concerned with Geneva convention practiced and rule of engagement. The west has forgotten how to win a fight against savage warriors.  

I think that a lot of liberals like to believe that when called upon, Americans will 'step up' and do what is necessary to keep our nation safe. The reality is that people don't 'step up'...they simply default to their training. When we trained men to ignore pain, endure suffering, use violence, and fight for survival,  our forces were capable of stabilizing the globe. Now we train people that pronouns matter, that guys can get pregnant, and that hurting someone's feelings with words is the same thing as violence. Not surprisingly, we have an entire nation of youth who can't fight, don't exercise, and if pushed to the edge would probably jump off rather that turn and face their oppressor.

The gates leading to Valhalla don't get much use any more.
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When was that? When the US threw a bunch of young adults into the meat grinder during Vietnam? Or was it during GWB invading countries that posed no thread to the US and ignored the ones that actually supported the 9/11 attacks? When the US govt plain old lied over and over again for their own gains? Or is it going to be now to fight for some Ukrainian money laundering scheme or fight for Israel and getting us involved where we shouldn’t be involved?

Fuck all that shit. When are people going to wake up to the fact that 95% of it is fake patriotism?

This isn’t WW2. It’s all bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:44:10 PM EST
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I think some of you all are failing to realize this is not just about Israel/US versus Iran.

Iran is in alliance with Russia, China, Turkey, etc.  The ignorance being shown here, talking about how primitive Iran is...well, kook who is supporting them and watching from a close distance? This is going to turn into a world war without a doubt. Israel is already planning an attack on Iran.  This is a prime example of a proxy war that is getting ready to spiral out of control.
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Yawn....this "spiral out of control" mongering gets old.

Yes, anything is possible, but most fat ass bearded mullahs, and the well dressed Putins, don't want their comfy palaces and families wiped out. (Gazans fucked around on October 7th & found out) If you notice, nobody including Ukraine or Iran really strikes main cities like Tel Aviv or Moscow. That mullah could have fired thousands of rockets at TelAviv if he meant business. ( but he was just saving face, and quickly announced the attack was done) Zelensky could have bombed Putins Palace or the Parliament building..... but you go only so far beating your chest with a Nuclear power!
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:45:14 PM EST
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Hurry up Jew-bros. I can't keep an erection for two days like I could when I was a teenager.
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They haven't even decided on what to do yet, or if they did, they're purposely being ambiguous to the media.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:49:02 PM EST
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With who? Russia? They can't handle Ukraine.
China? Look to their last dust up with Vietnam.
It's just a material of time till China makes a move on Siberia.
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Plus, China will not get (directly) involved with a dust up with the US or any of it's close allies. They depend too much on our hard earned cash.

Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:50:29 PM EST
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It’s questionable if a nuke would get past Arrow 3.

That would be really awkward.
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They don't have to send it by rocket.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:50:34 PM EST
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When was that? When the US threw a bunch of young adults into the meat grinder during Vietnam? Or was it during GWB invading countries that posed no thread to the US and ignored the ones that actually supported the 9/11 attacks? When the US govt plain old lied over and over again for their own gains? Or is it going to be now to fight for some Ukrainian money laundering scheme or fight for Israel and getting us involved where we shouldn’t be involved?

Fuck all that shit. When are people going to wake up to the fact that 95% of it is fake patriotism?

This isn’t WW2. It’s all bullshit.
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And by using your logic there was nothing in WWII worth getting the US involved in except maybe a retaliatory attack after Pearl Harbor.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:50:52 PM EST
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JFC, are they going to meet at the bus stop by Carl's house after-school?  Is Iran's chick gonna' be there too?  

What is with all of this leaking & telegraphing faggotry?  Just do it, or don't.  But stop with the, "I'm warning you mister!," bullshit already.
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Amen.  Couldn't agree. Fight...or don't. This isnt a fucking movie. Plot development isn't required. Get to it, or don't.  Enough fucking posturing already.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:50:54 PM EST
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According to previously agreement with Lurch the Ketchup human garbage.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:51:38 PM EST
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Anyone care to put out what kind of strike Israel will hit Iran with?

Just a smack thier pee pee, Strategic Launch sites only.

Or will they also target, Power and infrastructure and the Ayatollah headquarters. As to go all out war now?
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:53:14 PM EST
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We're propping up The Ukraine the same way we supported the Soviets waiting for another East Asian dictatorship to build up enough momentum to push our shit in.


Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:55:14 PM EST
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Anyone care to put out what kind of strike Israel will hit Iran with?

Just a smack thier pee pee, Strategic Launch sites only.

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Anywhere between roof knocks on prominent leaderships homes/offices to Total infrastructure destruction and decapitation of all leadership.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:56:36 PM EST
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Iran has been a problem for decades. Israel nuking them is not something I want to see. I know if this goes hot it could spill over here at home, via terror cells and hacking. In a perfect world Iran gets a conventional beating and regime change with no ill effects here. With so much going on in the world, I fear this could spiral out of control.
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I don't disagree with you, but it's long overdue to finally, once and for all, shut Iran's mouth. It's not going to be pleasant, but it needs to be done. Iran is a destabilizing regime. They cause more problems than they solve.  Western appeasement has been kicking the can down the road for 50 years. Probably time to close the door and send a message that the USA is still calling the shots.

That all said, it's not happening on Bidens watch.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:56:48 PM EST
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Dear Isreal: Wipe Iran off the map. Call fanduel and have them make some wagers for aircraft and munitions used.
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When was that? When the US threw a bunch of young adults into the meat grinder during Vietnam? Or was it during GWB invading countries that posed no thread to the US and ignored the ones that actually supported the 9/11 attacks? When the US govt plain old lied over and over again for their own gains? Or is it going to be now to fight for some Ukrainian money laundering scheme or fight for Israel and getting us involved where we shouldn't be involved?

Fuck all that shit. When are people going to wake up to the fact that 95% of it is fake patriotism?

This isn't WW2. It's all bullshit.
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I'm not saying an omniscient man would ever justify it, but I can assure you that in the early 1980s, just about every teenage boy understood their responsibility to the nation. Was it propaganda? Sure. Did it work? Yep.  
Does it work today? Nope.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 2:59:21 PM EST
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That's "Northern Resource Area" to you, comrade.

ETA: meant to respond to the post about China moving on Siberia.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 3:03:13 PM EST
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Given how Iran have been threatening Israel for the last 40 years, It’s a certainty that Israel has war gamed every conceivable operation against Iran down to a T. I think they are just trying to decide the level of hurt to strike back with, not on whether they’re going to or not.
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I'm never going to understand polite warfare.
"Hey you Iranian assholes!  We're gonna strike back!  In 24-48 hours."

Why warn them?  Just annihilate them.
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I'm never going to understand polite warfare.
"Hey you Iranian assholes!  We're gonna strike back!  In 24-48 hours."

Why warn them?  Just annihilate them.


Did they announce they were going to attack
or someone low level person overheard the plans and ran to news for a few bucks?
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 3:09:55 PM EST
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They haven't even decided on what to do yet, or if they did, they're purposely being ambiguous to the media.
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Hurry up Jew-bros. I can't keep an erection for two days like I could when I was a teenager.
They haven't even decided on what to do yet, or if they did, they're purposely being ambiguous to the media.


Whatever happened to just wasting the motherfuckers?
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Did they announce they were going to attack
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I'm never going to understand polite warfare.
"Hey you Iranian assholes!  We're gonna strike back!  In 24-48 hours."

Why warn them?  Just annihilate them.


Did they announce they were going to attack
or someone low level person overheard the plans and ran to news for a few bucks?


Just X/Twitter rabble at this point.
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Whatever happened to just wasting the motherfuckers?
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They were indecisive on the scale of the response. If you believe war monitor, it's been determined.


He's biased against Israel though and doesn't always post true shit.
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The Germans never lost 300 units in a single assault\surprise attack during the BoB.
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The Battle of Britain probably had larger air intercepts than last night.  Also, some of the BoB intercepts had German fighter cover and the German medium bombers and Stukas could shoot back at the interceptors, unlike the drones and missiles.

The Germans never lost 300 units in a single assault\surprise attack during the BoB.


I reckon the Marianas Turkey Shoot had it beat though.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 3:20:18 PM EST
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A very transparent straight up act of War by the Iranian Mullahs.

Someone may end up getting a tactical nuke dropped on them.

I would not be surprised if the Israelis go with this option.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 3:20:44 PM EST
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Grown ups. They are in charge.
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Should have happened 6 months ago. It would have avoided this and the recent nonsense around Yemen.
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When was that? When the US threw a bunch of young adults into the meat grinder during Vietnam? Or was it during GWB invading countries that posed no thread to the US and ignored the ones that actually supported the 9/11 attacks? When the US govt plain old lied over and over again for their own gains? Or is it going to be now to fight for some Ukrainian money laundering scheme or fight for Israel and getting us involved where we shouldn’t be involved?

Fuck all that shit. When are people going to wake up to the fact that 95% of it is fake patriotism?

This isn’t WW2. It’s all bullshit.
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Well, he is probably talking about the 1980’s.  

You were not here, so I guess you would not know about it…

(Talk about someone commenting about something they know ZERO about….)
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Anyone care to put out what kind of strike Israel will hit Iran with?

Just a smack thier pee pee, Strategic Launch sites only.

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I doubt it will be an aspirin or baby formula factory that gets hit after everyone has gone home for the day.
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