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Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:48:41 PM EDT
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So technical question.. We all know Iron dome and it seems to be working as expected. But didnt we use C-ram in Iraq against mortar's and such to good success?
Why a missle system vs a projectile one?
I mean it obviously works just curious why one conflict sees one and not the other?

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Israels-Iron-Dome-and-the-Phalanx-CIWS?share=1

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So its the number of rockets in the tube. a iron dome launcher has like 20 or more rockets with multiple launchers per site it can fire quickly vs a gun system that can only attack one shell at a time. So to get 20 at one you would need 20 guns.

Makes sense. Thx.

Ill say this. Its GD impressive that technology exist to detect track and predict incoming artillery, whether rocket or conventional, and be able to engage that shit.

Thats mind blowing.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:48:45 PM EDT
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So technical question.. We all know Iron dome and it seems to be working as expected. But didnt we use C-ram in Iraq against mortar's and such to good success?

Why a missle system vs a projectile one?

I mean it obviously works just curious why one conflict sees one and not the other?
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Range.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:50:17 PM EDT
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Use it for an attack on Iran.  Fly regular commercial routes switching the transponder accordingly.
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Wouldn't it be just as likely for Iran to shoot it down?
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:50:56 PM EDT
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Urgent # | The series of violent raids that targeted Gaza City a short while ago, are the buildings of Al-Kulk, Abu Al-Auf, Al-Baik restaurant, and intersections and streets in the Al-Rimal neighborhood.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:51:06 PM EDT
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As much as I agree...
The more likely reason is probably... That those buildings had a lot of communications gear and I would bet Hamas was tapped into them and using them for their own communications... most likely with the full cooperation of those news agencies.
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AP and Al Jazeera are literally the propaganda arms of Hamas in Gaza. I'd guarantee that Hamas or one of their offspring had offices probably on the same floor as those "news" outfits, and almost certainly had a very close working relationship with them. They dutifully put Hamas' messaging out to the world, slanted exactly the way that Hamas wants the rest of the world to see it. They've done that for years.

Good targets.

As much as I agree...
The more likely reason is probably... That those buildings had a lot of communications gear and I would bet Hamas was tapped into them and using them for their own communications... most likely with the full cooperation of those news agencies.

Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:51:59 PM EDT
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Elections have consequences.
That flight of billions to Iran from the Biden admin?  The palis kept it out of the news for a reason.  They knew that trump would stand beside Israel.
Now that mr potato brain is in charge, they are able to up the tempo.
Israel is smart and realizes that they don’t care who is in the White House, they have work to do.

Best outcome is for izzys to go house to house, create a bigger buffer zone.  Even better, push Gaza into the sea.  
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Can you just imagine the clusterfuck if the UN stepped in ?

LOL
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:53:46 PM EDT
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"I have never covered air strikes with such intensity, explosions are everywhere in #Gaza , there are difficulties in communicating with officials to find out where the strikes are."
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:55:01 PM EDT
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Israel has spies everywhere in Gaza and its paying off.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:55:27 PM EDT
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I'm trying to figure out how all this ends.

Hamas doesn't seem to be backing down and seem to have a metric shit-ton of material support.
With the ass whooping Gaza is getting they have not asked for a breather to reload (cease-fire) and are quite emboldened.
They are eating Israeli air and arty strikes and don't seem to care and are carrying on.
What is their end game , they don't seem to be running out of bodies , did they stock up ?

Why is nobody supporting Israel ?
Sure doesn't look like anybody is.

Is Iran looking to step in to the fray , other than the material support they are giving Hamas ?

What happens if Israel completely flattens the Gaza strip ?
Who do they face after that ?

This just seems to be getting out of hand.
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I think its to make Hamas bleed..............and they are bleeding. They will eventually run out of bodies, as well as missiles........
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:55:34 PM EDT
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Can you just imagine the clusterfuck if the UN stepped in ?

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I have to imagine that they have a “give every single person over 8 years old a rifle and two grenades” plan.

I would love to watch the livestream of a platoon from the CAR getting pinned down by a few kids wearing yarmulkes with M4s
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:56:00 PM EDT
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I'm sure Xiden looking to love up on the Iranian's to get some BS Nuke deal done and now probably double down on the pallets of cash to get Iran to back Hamas off. We will probably pay every side just to get a cease fire..... what a cluster fuck. Hope Israel goes mid-evil on these idiots! Israel probably learned in Obumer era they better handle things themselves.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:56:04 PM EDT
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Within the last hour:


More than 155 airstrikes were carried out by the Israeli warplanes in the Gaza Strip, after the resistance rockets were fired at Tel Aviv, as follows:
60 strikes in Gaza
40 North
Central 35
20 Khan Yunis
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:56:17 PM EDT
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Are they fighting over some newly developed rift, or is this just a continuation of their ages old territorial / biblical dispute?

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Why Rockets Are Raining Down On Innocent Israelis


Evictions started it all.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:57:09 PM EDT
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AP and Al Jazeera are literally the propaganda arms of Hamas in Gaza. I'd guarantee that Hamas or one of their offspring had offices probably on the same floor as those "news" outfits, and almost certainly had a very close working relationship with them. They dutifully put Hamas' messaging out to the world, slanted exactly the way that Hamas wants the rest of the world to see it. They've done that for years.

Good targets.

As much as I agree...
The more likely reason is probably... That those buildings had a lot of communications gear and I would bet Hamas was tapped into them and using them for their own communications... most likely with the full cooperation of those news agencies.



It's what CNN did during the lead up to, and during, Gulf War 1.  They later admitted that they knew about the rape/torture rooms, and other things.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:57:57 PM EDT
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A Death match winner take all.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:58:28 PM EDT
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I have to imagine that they have a “give every single person over 8 years old a rifle and two grenades” plan.

I would love to watch the livestream of a platoon from the CAR getting pinned down by a few kids wearing yarmulkes with M4s
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Which is probably why I have not heard a peep out of the UN regarding this War.

Maybe somebody else has , please chime in if you have.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:58:33 PM EDT
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Great. Since you love them so much, we'll send them right over. Problem solved.
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HUGE Pro Palestine Protests in Tahrir Square, Baghdad
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1c5ZmRXsAIrS_r?format=png&name=900x900
Great. Since you love them so much, we'll send them right over. Problem solved.



https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2083&version=NIV
Psalm 83:8
Even Assyria has joined them to reinforce Lot’s descendants.

Things are falling in place.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 7:59:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:00:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:02:02 PM EDT
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Agenda Free is reporting that Israel is bombing Khan Yunis.  I was in the other room and mis-heard Khan Yunis as Communists.  Talk about disappointment!

Mike
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:02:32 PM EDT
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Which is probably why I have not heard a peep out of the UN regarding this War.

Maybe somebody else has , please chime in if you have.
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There's a UN security council meeting tomorrow, but they called for it on Monday or Tuesday
.They deliberately chose a later date hoping a ceasefire would be set so they could all congratulate each other. Expect harsh words tomorrow and that's it.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:03:34 PM EDT
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Israelis flee to the airport after the announcement of the Ayyash missile by Hamas

Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:04:09 PM EDT
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“Everything it can”
So when do the Iranian jets start bombing runs and when do Iranian troops start a ground offensive into Israel?
I’m calling bullshit. Big talk from someone who prefers terrorism and proxies.
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Quds Force Commander Ismail Qani:

"Iran will do everything it can to achieve the goal of liberating all of the Palestinian soil

The Palestinian people must prepare to take over the administration of their country after the removal of the Zionists"


“Everything it can”
So when do the Iranian jets start bombing runs and when do Iranian troops start a ground offensive into Israel?
I’m calling bullshit. Big talk from someone who prefers terrorism and proxies.

Similar to Bush telling the Kurds that he supported their efforts to fight Saddam.  Full support unless they need anything more than moral support.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:04:13 PM EDT
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Clearly an ambush with accompanying gunfire but where is this? Lebanese border region?
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:04:55 PM EDT
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IOW , they haven't got a clue what to do.

Again.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:06:15 PM EDT
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Palestinians inside Israel distribute sweets due to rockets falling in Israel

Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:07:21 PM EDT
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Israelis flee to the airport after the announcement of the Ayyash missile by Hamas

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That's a bunch of different footage sliced together from different days. Hilarious propaganda if you recognize the footage. The in air flight footage went viral on Wednesday I think.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:09:48 PM EDT
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BOOM!


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Clearly an ambush with accompanying gunfire but where is this? Lebanese border region?
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Google translate says this: The truck carrying a tank that Israel sent to be used in Gaza was hit by Hamas forces.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:13:59 PM EDT
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People commenting are delusional. Isreal is the perpetrator and a ruthless killer.

With the most advanced Military & a Defense system in the World is Israel in any risk for these action??


It’s ok to shoot someone if they’re wearing a bulletproof vest
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:14:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:16:54 PM EDT
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Shoot the press first!
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:17:56 PM EDT
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Hamas: Hamas has vowed to continue resistance against the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.

Hamas vows to continue resistance against Israeli occupation
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:22:04 PM EDT
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I'm trying to figure out how all this ends.

Hamas doesn't seem to be backing down and seem to have a metric shit-ton of material support.
With the ass whooping Gaza is getting they have not asked for a breather to reload (cease-fire) and are quite emboldened.
They are eating Israeli air and arty strikes and don't seem to care and are carrying on.
What is their end game , they don't seem to be running out of bodies , did they stock up ?

Why is nobody supporting Israel ?
Sure doesn't look like anybody is.

Is Iran looking to step in to the fray , other than the material support they are giving Hamas ?

What happens if Israel completely flattens the Gaza strip ?
Who do they face after that ?

This just seems to be getting out of hand.
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The entire world is one giant powderkeg right now and someone is striking sparks on purpose.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:23:34 PM EDT
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Terrorist pieces of shit are indiscriminately shooting rockets at civilians. Israel is trying to stop said terrorist scumbags.
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Succinctly correct, sir.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:24:17 PM EDT
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So...has either side actually managed to hit a major civilian target and kill a staggering number of people....or is this just another flare up where they do a lot of shooting and nothing other than property damage occurs?
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:27:16 PM EDT
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Hamas: Hamas has vowed to continue resistance against the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.

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There are no Palestinian lands, there never have been. Palestine was a region, akin to the midwest, never a country...
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:27:41 PM EDT
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Curious development on Al Jazeera , 2 ambulances escorted by , at least, a dozen of armed Hamas militants arrived to Shifa hospital in Gaza city , they even dispersed the onlookers


The same hospital which is supposed to be cut off

Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:28:11 PM EDT
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So technical question.. We all know Iron dome and it seems to be working as expected. But didnt we use C-ram in Iraq against mortar's and such to good success?

Why a missle system vs a projectile one?

I mean it obviously works just curious why one conflict sees one and not the other?
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Range. You want to intercept as far away as you can. Hopefully over enemy territory.
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:28:22 PM EDT
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They didn't realize that Israel noticed the cozy relationships between the news agencies, and Hamas.  The news agencies most certainly knew, and likely helped them in setting it up.
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Media outrage .

We didn't realize there were Hamas offices in the building.

You're journalists, but you don't know your office neighbors are a bunch of terrorist fucks? You suck at journalism or you lie. I'm calling both.


They didn't realize that Israel noticed the cozy relationships between the news agencies, and Hamas.  The news agencies most certainly knew, and likely helped them in setting it up.
Israel should text: "Next time, no warning.".
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:29:26 PM EDT
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It's propaganda going both ways. Israel cut power and blamed it on the jihadis. "See, look what you did!"
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It's propaganda going both ways. Israel cut power and blamed it on the jihadis. "See, look what you did!"

Meh, don't be dependent on those you hate and wish to kill for power or other infrastructure provided by civilized societies.  
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:29:49 PM EDT
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Quds Force Commander Ismail Qani:

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The Palestinian people must prepare to take over the administration of their country after the removal of the Zionists"
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Lol
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:32:24 PM EDT
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People commenting are delusional. Isreal is the perpetrator and a ruthless killer.



It’s ok to shoot someone if they’re wearing a bulletproof vest
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Have you already forgotten that teens have knife fights all the time therefor they shouldn't be shot when trying to stab another?
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:35:01 PM EDT
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Why the thread title change with WAR in all caps, did someone declare war or just clickbait?
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Lol
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Quds Force Commander Ismail Qani:

"Iran will do everything it can to achieve the goal of liberating all of the Palestinian soil

The Palestinian people must prepare to take over the administration of their country after the removal of the Zionists"
Lol

New room for the people to expand after they remove the Jews? Where have I heard that national strategy  before?
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:35:39 PM EDT
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Naval shelling hitting west Gaza
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What' the biggest deck gun Israel has?  5"?  And how many?
Link Posted: 5/15/2021 8:38:45 PM EDT
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Live video featuring fo rooster.
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Hamas: Hamas has vowed to continue resistance against the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.

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Then Israel should end them
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