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Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:51:32 PM EST
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It must be nice to have enough money as a business to be able to eat into your profits and limit yourself in order to virtue signal. I'll never have that much money, but cant say that I'd virtue signal anything even if I did.

Waiting for the guns and ammo to clearance out, but then again it's impossible to beat neck beards to the loot when they are employed by Walmart.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:52:03 PM EST
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Here is the CEO statement;

Dear Associates,

A month ago, in El Paso, Texas, a gunman with an assault-style rifle launched a hate-filled attack in our store, shooting 48 people resulting in the loss of 22 innocent lives. Just a few days prior, two of our associates were killed by another associate in our store in Southaven, Mississippi. And hours after the shooting in El Paso, our country experienced another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio. This weekend brought tragedy to Midland and Odessa, Texas.

In Southaven and El Paso, our associates responded to anger and hate with courage and self-sacrifice. Our immediate priorities were supporting our associates and the impacted families and cooperating with law enforcement. In parallel, we have been focused on store safety and security. We've also been listening to a lot of people inside and outside our company as we think about the role we can play in helping to make the country safer. It's clear to us that the status quo is unacceptable.

After visiting El Paso on Aug. 6, I mentioned that we would be thoughtful and deliberate in our responses. We're ready to share our next steps.

We've been giving a lot of thought to our sale of firearms and ammunition. We've previously made decisions to stop selling handguns or military-style rifles such as the AR-15, to raise the age limit to purchase a firearm or ammunition to 21, to require a "green light" on a background check while federal law only requires the absence of a "red light," to videotape the point of sale for firearms and to only allow certain trained associates to sell firearms.

Today, we're sharing the decisions we've made that go further:

We know these decisions will inconvenience some of our customers, and we hope they will understand. As a company, we experienced two horrific events in one week, and we will never be the same. Our remaining assortment will be even more focused on the needs of hunting and sport shooting enthusiasts. It will include long barrel deer rifles and shotguns, much of the ammunition they require, as well as hunting and sporting accessories and apparel. We believe these actions will reduce our market share of ammunition from around 20% to a range of approximately 6 to 9%. We believe it will likely drift toward the lower end of that range, over time, given the combination of these changes.

As it relates to safety in our stores, there have been multiple incidents since El Paso where individuals attempting to make a statement and test our response have entered our stores carrying weapons in a way that frightened or concerned our associates and customers. We have also had well-intentioned customers acting lawfully that have inadvertently caused a store to be evacuated and local law enforcement to be called to respond. These incidents are concerning and we would like to avoid them, so we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer openly carry firearms into our stores or Sam's Clubs in states where "open carry" is permitted  unless they are authorized law enforcement officers.

We believe the opportunity for someone to misinterpret a situation, even in open carry states, could lead to tragic results. We hope that everyone will understand the circumstances that led to this new policy and will respect the concerns of their fellow shoppers and our associates. As it relates to concealed carry by customers with permits, there is no change to our policy or approach. This morning, we briefed your leadership team on how to communicate this change in policy to customers when needed, and they will be sharing that with you very soon. We will treat law-abiding customers with respect, and we will have a very non-confrontational approach. Our priority is your safety. We will be providing new signage to help communicate this policy in the coming weeks.

As an additional step, we commit we will work alongside other retailers to make the overall industry safer, including sharing our best practices. For example, we are exploring ways to share the technical specifications and compliance controls for our proprietary firearms sales technology platform. This system navigates the tens of millions of possible combinations of federal, state and local laws, regulations and licensing requirements that come into effect based on where the firearm is being sold and who is purchasing it. We hope that providing this information, free of charge, will help more retailers sell firearms in a responsible, compliant manner.

Finally, we encourage our nation's leaders to move forward and strengthen background checks and to remove weapons from those who have been determined to pose an imminent danger. We do not sell military-style rifles, and we believe the reauthorization of the Assault Weapons ban should be debated to determine its effectiveness. We must also do more, as a country, to understand the root causes that lead to this type of violent behavior. Today, I'm sending letters to the White House and the Congressional leadership that call for action on these common sense measures. As we've seen before, these horrific events occur and then the spotlight fades. We should not allow that to happen. Congress and the administration should act. Given our decades of experience selling firearms, we are also offering to serve as a resource in the national debate on responsible gun sales.

We have a long heritage as a company of serving responsible hunters and sportsmen and women, and we're going to continue doing so. Our founder, Sam Walton, was an avid outdoorsman who had a passion for quail hunting, and we're headquartered in a state known for its duck hunting and deer hunting. My family raised bird dogs when I was growing up in Jonesboro, Arkansas, and I'm a gun owner myself. We understand that heritage, our deeply rooted place in America and our influence as the world's largest retailer. And we understand the responsibility that comes with it. We want what's best for our customers, our associates and our communities. In a complex situation lacking a simple solution, we are trying to take constructive steps to reduce the risk that events like these will happen again. The status quo is unacceptable.

Doug

Sept. 3, 2019

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Fuck that guy, seriously.

It's one thing to stop selling things you don't want to sell. It's a whole other thing to get into politics and telling people we need another AWB.

And I find it very hard to believe they are selling 1/5th of all the ammo.

Fuck Walmart.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:52:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:52:46 PM EST
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I have a cal-ranch and a sportsman's warehouse near me to shop for ammo. I now have zero reason to shop a Walmart.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:54:29 PM EST
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Didn't expect that.

Walmart stopping sales of AR-15s and standard capacity magazines, I can see that.

Stopping sales of center fire, semi auto rifles. I can see that, not that they sold many of those when  AR-15s stopped being stocked.

But handgun ammo? Very interesting to say the least. .223 is also shocking but still would have thought they should stop selling that either. But stopping hand gun ammo sales? Didn't think they go that far.

Walmarts doesn't sell ammo around here anyways, but with CA's new online ammo ban I assume in parts of the state that Walmart sold ammo in it was the last hope for affordable ammo in common calibers. With that option gone it will certainly raise the cost of ammo. Seeing people in this thread that don't have a dedicated gun store locally (New Mexico residents) I can see an online ammo ban being absolutely bad for ammo costs. And with the way NM is going I can see them proposing that stuff down the line.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:54:39 PM EST
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Ammo prices at the local gun shops are already 25-30% higher than Walmart. With no local competition, I wonder how high they’ll go?
Who cares?  There are great ammo retailers that sponsor this forum. Have it delivered to your door.
As another poster said... order online for now..

Some ammo is actually cheaper at Walmart per box, than I can buy it in bulk for online.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:54:46 PM EST
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More Breaking News!!!!!!!!


AP News
updated 2:47pm

Gun owners shake fists, stomp feet, post memes, and stroke each other’s ego. But still refuse to un-ass their couches, organize a productive fight, dress like adults, take regular showers, or lower their BMI.

Reporter Jim Anderson has stated that his sources have confirmed gun owners vow to continue to post “Tay Tay” threads, fantasy “What gun would you buy” threads, and ridicule woman about staying in the kitchen “making sammiches”

Other unconfirmed sources have stated that most gun owners vow to form orderly lines at the smelting facilities. Smaller groups promise to never forget where they buried their stash, even into their twilight years.

Several gun owners were overheard muttering “Your a daisy if ya do” and the word “Boogaloo”. We’re not sure but these may be a codes for “I don’t have the balls to do a thing... but refuse to admit it” as well as possibly meaning “I want to do something stupid and violent thus assuring the left has even more fuel with which to burn the 2A to the ground”



I’ll update this if there are any changes.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:54:55 PM EST
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they'll keep selling alcohol though, that stuff kills 88,000 Americans per year.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:55:01 PM EST
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Ammo prices at the local gun shops are already 25-30% higher than Walmart. With no local competition, I wonder how high they'll go?
Who cares?  There are great ammo retailers that sponsor this forum. Have it delivered to your door.
Unless you need it today.  Until mail order is banned.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:55:49 PM EST
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In Florida, Rural King is the place to go for guns and ammo.
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Not over the weekend. They stopped gun/ammo sales because they don't understand the "State of Emergency" statutes.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:56:10 PM EST
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Folks should be supporting their local gun stores instead of Walmart anyway.
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LGS often stock up on ammo at Walmart during shortages.

Not only does this end any business I'll do with Walmart but I'll switch back to Costco from Sam's too.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:56:14 PM EST
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That sound you hear is all the local shops cheering and raising their ammo prices.
If you think its not happening, you have obviously turned a deaf ear to all of them complaining about WalMart "squeezing them out" by selling ammo cheaper.

I feel especially sorry for the brothers and sisters in CA.
--First, make mail order ammo illegal -- local retailers only.
--Second: Stop large local retailers from selling ammo via social pressure to self-identify as 'virtuous' by stopping ammo sales.
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1. Get rented mailbox space out of state
2. Buy ammo online
3. Have ammo sent to out of state mailbox
4. ?
5. Profit?
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:57:12 PM EST
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There's a walmart fairly close to me that turned ghetto probably 15 years ago.  They stopped selling guns and ammo around that time.  Considering the location I didn't really blame them.  I haven't been in that store in at least 15 years.  Not sure if their address is actually ferguson, but they're right on the edge.  I don't know OP's area but I could see it happening in a "diverse" area.  In a rural area, doubt it.
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Natural Bridge Rd?  During the day that one is "ok"  the hell if I'm going anywhere near there after dark.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:57:19 PM EST
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I can honestly say that I've never bought a firearm at Wally World and can count the times I've bought ammo there on one hand.
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Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:57:51 PM EST
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I can't stand the people that open carry in Wal Mart.  They are always using those black nylon holsters that are clipped to their pockets.  Flipping all around while they walk.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:57:56 PM EST
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Unless you need it today.  Until mail order is banned.
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You need to plan ahead better...
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:57:57 PM EST
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Ironically the only ammo I do buy is handgun ammo, 223 and 7.62x39 "short rifle ammo" ha ha. Dorks, I bet that stuff is 90% of centerfire ammunition sales. Who goes to Wal Mart and wheels out a case of 30-30?
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“Short rifle” ammo would be 5.7mm .300BLK....
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:58:38 PM EST
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Unless you need it today.  Until mail order is banned.
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Ammo prices at the local gun shops are already 25-30% higher than Walmart. With no local competition, I wonder how high they'll go?
Who cares?  There are great ammo retailers that sponsor this forum. Have it delivered to your door.
Unless you need it today.  Until mail order is banned.
If you need it today, you should already have it.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:58:47 PM EST
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Don't disagree , but sure freight and net 30 come into play as well

I do know a couple of small gunshow sellers that use PSA Buds etc as their distributors as the big guys require proof of store front

What's PSA charge for freight on a case of ammo ?
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Okay. So the box of 9 that's $8.00 at PSA should be less than $9.50 in store....not $14.00
PSA does massive volume and probably gets that for $7

LGS probably pays $9-10 for that ammo
Then LGS should buy it for $8.00 from PSA
Don't disagree , but sure freight and net 30 come into play as well

I do know a couple of small gunshow sellers that use PSA Buds etc as their distributors as the big guys require proof of store front

What's PSA charge for freight on a case of ammo ?
Deal of the day offers are usually free shipping for 10+ boxes
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:59:05 PM EST
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Just went to my local walmart in central VA, numerous people buying ammo talking about the news.

While this isn't reason to panic, the alternative of mail ordering everything and eating shipping is going to stir the pot.

The basic calibers are there and about the best you'll find in brick and mortar.

So it is going to impact.  Other local gun stores will increase their prices now.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 1:59:59 PM EST
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North or South Georgia? If South, they will lose a $h*t load of customers and money. Especially the male demographic.
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no they won't.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:00:31 PM EST
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I do not care how big they are, if enough quit trading it will have an impact.  Dick's looks like a ghost town here.  Boycotting a business makes me feel like a democrat.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:00:50 PM EST
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A place I never shop and never will shop

OK with me
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Their business, their rules I suppose...but when they start lobbying congress to fuck me over...then it is personal.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:01:07 PM EST
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its trending on twitter with a lot of supporters
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:01:41 PM EST
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That sound you hear is all the local shops cheering and raising their ammo prices.
If you think its not happening, you have obviously turned a deaf ear to all of them complaining about WalMart "squeezing them out" by selling ammo cheaper.

I feel especially sorry for the brothers and sisters in CA.
--First, make mail order ammo illegal -- local retailers only.
--Second: Stop large local retailers from selling ammo via social pressure to self-identify as 'virtuous' by stopping ammo sales.
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This
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:01:44 PM EST
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Just so they know my belt feds run either .308, 30-06 or 8mm. Diversity is a motherfucker . BTW those with .308 AR's which cause far more damage are still GTG. We need a .270 AK.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:02:05 PM EST
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Meh, it's their loss.  If Walmart wants to choose virtue signaling over profit, who am I to stop them?  That just gives me no reason to ever set foot in their stores again.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:02:28 PM EST
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More Breaking News!!!!!!!!


AP News
updated 2:47pm

Gun owners shake fists, stomp feet, post memes, and stroke each other’s ego. But still refuse to un-ass their couches, organize a productive fight, dress like adults, take regular showers, or lower their BMI.

Reporter Jim Anderson has stated that his sources have confirmed gun owners vow to continue to post “Tay Tay” threads, fantasy “What gun would you buy” threads, and ridicule woman about staying in the kitchen making sammiches”
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Lol, no shit right?

I've shifted a lot of my hobby focus from gun shit to reptile collecting and the people have gotten more normal.

Also the comp shooting scene is overrun with ludicrously fat fucks.  Blech.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:02:32 PM EST
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I missed the part in the memo where it says how these measures would have prevented any mass shootings ever.
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They don't give a fuck. Susie Soccer mom is not going to stop shopping at Walmart over this issue.
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I absolutely agree they won't give a fuck.  But Susie Soccer Mom wouldn't be caught dead in WM.

Now, Wilma Welfare Mom, that's a different story.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:02:43 PM EST
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I'm waiting for Walmart to stop selling cigarettes. The CDC says 480,000 deaths a year are due to smoking. 41,000 are from second hand smoke.
Where is the corporate outage and SJW boycotting?
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:04:42 PM EST
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Just so they know my belt feds run either .308, 30-06 or 8mm. Diversity is a motherfucker . BTW those with .308 AR's which cause far more damage are still GTG. We need a .270 AK.
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Or a thudy thudy. The fudds would love them!
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:04:52 PM EST
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We believe these actions will reduce our market share of ammunition from around 20% to a range of approximately 6 to 9%. We believe it will likely drift toward the lower end of that range, over time, given the combination of these changes.

Wow, that is a lot a of ammo sales. The category manager is going to be sweating that number.
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Like I said I find it very hard to believe they were selling 1/5th of the ammo in this country....

Whatever. It's not like people aren't going to keep buying. More deserving places will get the business now.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:05:02 PM EST
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The creep of anti-gun bullshit should concern all of us.
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Don't care.
The creep of anti-gun bullshit should concern all of us.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that many are saying "oh well, I don't buy ammo there so no big deal."

It doesn't matter if it affects you personally or not. It matters that this is yet another example of gun owners and the shooting hobby being stigmatized and marginalized, this time  by the world's largest retailer.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:05:12 PM EST
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LOL target is worse with pandering to the left. Remember all the bathroom bullshit ?

Generally more expensive too.
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I don’t like giving my money to companies who advocate for removing my rights.

Luckily I have a Target in town, so I will never have to see the mutant freaks of Wal Mart ever again.
LOL target is worse with pandering to the left. Remember all the bathroom bullshit ?

Generally more expensive too.
The Second Amendment is more important than some stupid bathroom drama bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:05:16 PM EST
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Just so they know my belt feds run either .308, 30-06 or 8mm. Diversity is a motherfucker . BTW those with .308 AR's which cause far more damage are still GTG. We need a .270 AK.
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What makes you think they will continue to sell short action cartridges like .308?
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:05:27 PM EST
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More Breaking News!!!!!!!!


AP News
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Gun owners shake fists, stomp feet, post memes, and stroke each other's ego. But still refuse to un-ass their couches, organize a productive fight, dress like adults, take regular showers, or lower their BMI.

Reporter Jim Anderson has stated that his sources have confirmed gun owners vow to continue to post "Tay Tay" threads, fantasy "What gun would you buy" threads, and ridicule woman about staying in the kitchen making sammiches"
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Arfcom in one post
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:05:48 PM EST
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I can't stand the people that open carry in Wal Mart.  They are always using those black nylon holsters that are clipped to their pockets.  Flipping all around while they walk.
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Agreed.

When we tell people to go be poor somewhere else, they go to Walmart ...
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:05:52 PM EST
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PSA does massive volume and probably gets that for $7

LGS probably pays $9-10 for that ammo
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Exactly.

So why doesn't the LGS buy it from PSA for $ 8 and sell for $10 rather than pay $9-10 for it and sell for $12 ?
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:06:06 PM EST
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The “I don’t care, I got’s mine!” types are idiots, they’re coming for yours.
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So pay for it.

Give them your card # and buy it.
Link Posted: 9/3/2019 2:07:20 PM EST
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Fuck Chinamart.
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Most people buy ammo to shoot for that day at the range. They are not stockpiling like some folks here.

So they buy that 2 to 5 boxes of ammo for their recreational shoot. It was easy run by WM to fulfill those needs.

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All Congress has to do now is pass a nationwide background check to buy ammo and we are screwed, blued, and tattooed.  No more internet sales; no more shipped to your door.  People don't yet grasp how big this is.  Best case scenario other than ordering in bulk while it lasts is that I have to pay several dollars more for the not quite the same thing from Sportsman's Warehouse.  Who besides Walmart was carrying the 100 or 200-round Federal .223 plinking ammo for about $30 per 100?  My prepper stash is untouchable.  I'd sometimes get enough from Wally World to get me through the weekend knowing I could buy ammo on Friday night.
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Exactly.

So why doesn't the LGS buy it from PSA for $ 8 and sell for $10 rather than pay $9-10 for it and sell for $12 ?
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PSA does massive volume and probably gets that for $7

LGS probably pays $9-10 for that ammo
Exactly.

So why doesn't the LGS buy it from PSA for $ 8 and sell for $10 rather than pay $9-10 for it and sell for $12 ?
Pride? Stubbornness? Ignorance?
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They don't care. Susie Soccer mom is not shopping another store if she is already a WM shopper over this issue.
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FWIW, all the soccer moms around here shop at Target.  I don't see this decision by Walmart bring in soccer moms, but it will cause them to lose customers.
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What makes you think they will continue to sell short action cartridges like .308?
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Their memo. Didn't specifically say they were going to keep selling 308, but did say will continue selling hunting rounds. 300 win mag 308 30-30 270 243 and 30-06 all common hunting rounds. Basically if a fudd has a gun, one of those calibers will still be stocked.
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