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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:05:16 PM EST
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People are going to make themselves be heard, one way or another. The Police and S.D. need to be damned careful to not give the appearance of taking sides in these kinds of matters. They're supposed to be on the side of the law. If they choose to let mobs run riot, the targets of those rioters are going to defend themselves and their views. They WILL fight back... and not gently. Do none of these simpletons understand the Pandoras Box they are opening?  |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:05:29 PM EST
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People are going to make themselves be heard, one way or another. The Police and S.D. need to be damned careful to not give the appearance of taking sides in these kinds of matters. They're supposed to be on the side of the law. If they choose to let mobs run riot, the targets of those rioters are going to defend themselves and their views. They WILL fight back... and not gently. Do none of these simpletons understand the Pandoras Box they are opening? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So we're just waiting on the SD to issue a statement saying it was a PD matter. The Police and S.D. need to be damned careful to not give the appearance of taking sides in these kinds of matters. They're supposed to be on the side of the law. If they choose to let mobs run riot, the targets of those rioters are going to defend themselves and their views. They WILL fight back... and not gently. Do none of these simpletons understand the Pandoras Box they are opening? The Right in general has never displayed any where near the level of hatred towards and violence against the Police, despite the Police (in general) being more focused on The Right. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:05:54 PM EST
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:07:17 PM EST
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People are going to make themselves be heard, one way or another. The Police and S.D. need to be damned careful to not give the appearance of taking sides in these kinds of matters. They're supposed to be on the side of the law. If they choose to let mobs run riot, the targets of those rioters are going to defend themselves and their views. They WILL fight back... and not gently. Do none of these simpletons understand the Pandoras Box they are opening? 
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:10:01 PM EST
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Nothing has given them any indication they should slow down. I'm thinking they're overplaying their hand as well. Or maybe hoping more than thinking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People are going to make themselves be heard, one way or another. The Police and S.D. need to be damned careful to not give the appearance of taking sides in these kinds of matters. They're supposed to be on the side of the law. If they choose to let mobs run riot, the targets of those rioters are going to defend themselves and their views. They WILL fight back... and not gently. Do none of these simpletons understand the Pandoras Box they are opening? There has been absolutely no legal or illegal/vigilante consequences for them. Oh Bike Lock guy and some others got put in Jail... booo hooo they got plenty of useful idiots. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:11:13 PM EST
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Nothing is kicking off. Half the people on "our" side would crucify you just the same as "their" side would. He'd be the first to condemn and say that person is fucking us up blah blah blah, and then go on to tell other people the same thing, when they're getting fed up from the left. That's why I know shit will never kick off because he's the one who you'd throw you under the bus without blinking in eye lash. There's a lot of people out there like him doing that. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:11:31 PM EST
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:13:54 PM EST
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Thats what is so infuriating. The Left HATES the Police, The Left has recently carried out an organized bombing/shooting attacks/campaign against the Police. They Left wants to crucify any police officer who shoots a non-white, facts be damned. The Right in general has never displayed any where near the level of hatred towards and violence against the Police, despite the Police (in general) being more focused on The Right. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:16:08 PM EST
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In other words, they have now learned they can get away with this shit with impunity. Once that ball is rolling, it's not gonna be stopped. What if our side started doing the same thing? No more police protection for lefties in red states. That might get interesting next time CNN goes to cover some event in Wyoming and some of the locals decide they don't like their BS and the police decide they have somewhere else to be at that moment. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:18:06 PM EST
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Police are going to do whatever the person that signs their paychecks tells them to do, and that person is either going to be republican, or democrat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thats what is so infuriating. The Left HATES the Police, The Left has recently carried out an organized bombing/shooting attacks/campaign against the Police. They Left wants to crucify any police officer who shoots a non-white, facts be damned. The Right in general has never displayed any where near the level of hatred towards and violence against the Police, despite the Police (in general) being more focused on The Right. Look at Cruz, Bush, Ryan and all them's reaction to this latest flare up of leftist violence. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:18:40 PM EST
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In areas where they have friends in high offices they can act with impunity. Not so much in the vast majority of the country where democrats are not running things. Yes in Chicago, Berkley or NYC they can riot to their hearts content and the police will be ordered to stand aside. What if our side started doing the same thing? No more police protection for lefties in red states. That might get interesting next time CNN goes to cover some event in Wyoming and some of the locals decide they don't like their BS and the police decide they have somewhere else to be at that moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In other words, they have now learned they can get away with this shit with impunity. Once that ball is rolling, it's not gonna be stopped. What if our side started doing the same thing? No more police protection for lefties in red states. That might get interesting next time CNN goes to cover some event in Wyoming and some of the locals decide they don't like their BS and the police decide they have somewhere else to be at that moment. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:19:22 PM EST
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>Implying in this case there is a discernable difference between the Republicans and Democrats. Look at Cruz, Bush, Ryan and all them's reaction to this latest flare up of leftist violence. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:20:30 PM EST
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In areas where they have friends in high offices they can act with impunity. Not so much in the vast majority of the country where democrats are not running things. Yes in Chicago, Berkley or NYC they can riot to their hearts content and the police will be ordered to stand aside. What if our side started doing the same thing? No more police protection for lefties in red states. That might get interesting next time CNN goes to cover some event in Wyoming and some of the locals decide they don't like their BS and the police decide they have somewhere else to be at that moment. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:20:32 PM EST
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So much derp
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:21:10 PM EST
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So the democrats are like ISIS
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:23:29 PM EST
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90% of the posters in this thread are either blind or intentionally ignorant.
So many comments like "libs are pushing their luck, someone is going to snap" or "it's about time to pick up the guns." EL OH FUCKING EL. 
Some dude less than 48hrs ago "had enough" and "snapped" and the majority of posters here were calling for his head. Listen, you don't have to agree with the ideology or goals of the individual involved (lord knows, I don't), but to sit here and gleefully proclaim that the left's "day is coming" while a large portion probably condemned the dude in the Challenger over the weekend is comical. Nothing is going to happen to stop this shit. You're not going to pick up a gun to defend a monument (unless, of course, you want to be crucified by everyone here). No one is going to lift a finger. This shit is going to continue until it consumes this nation. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:25:35 PM EST
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It's a part of our nation's history. Hundreds of thousands of American's died. We shouldn't whitewash that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important. 
You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that. 
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:29:13 PM EST
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That was a monument to the soldiers who fought on behalf of a government that thought the ownership of blacks was a right. This statute to Jim Crow.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:31:19 PM EST
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I am at work on airport boulevard, I hope I can get home safelyhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69995/20170814_205915-280576.JPG |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:32:18 PM EST
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That was a monument to the soldiers who fought on behalf of a government that thought the ownership of blacks was a right. This statute to Jim Crow.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important.
You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:37:41 PM EST
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I have no skin in the game when it comes to the Confederate States but I sure as shit will respect and defend their monuments.
Today at Stone Mountain. Fuck You Commies |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:39:50 PM EST
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This is one is on Hillsborough St, in Raleigh, on the Capitol grounds. It is facing of the original 4 main approaches to the NC Capitol Building. The monument is to the "Confederate Dead" I am surprised that Roy Cooper, the Democratic Governor, hasn't preemptively designated it for removal because of feels. I wonder how long before it is targeted? https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2017/2179140620_7f7ef0aac4_z.jpg In agreement with one of the above posters "Silent Sam" on the UNC campus will be torn down soon. Even if there are arrests for the vandals, those that destroyed them will never be held accountable by the courts, and the memorials that have been there for 100+ years will never be replaced. https://uncplan.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/silent-sam-4.jpg?w=720&h=491 It was difficult to understand what he was exactly saying because of the cock and balls he constantly has in his mouth. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:40:40 PM EST
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So did Washington, are we to remove him from American history? This is idiocy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was a monument to the soldiers who fought on behalf of a government that thought the ownership of blacks was a right. This statute to Jim Crow.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:46:55 PM EST
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That will happen as well, in due time. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:47:36 PM EST
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Make it stop.
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:48:40 PM EST
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I am at work on airport boulevard, I hope I can get home safelyhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69995/20170814_205915-280576.JPG |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:52:51 PM EST
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That will happen as well, in due time. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:53:50 PM EST
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well I made it home and I will the day after the the thestMk star So hso mmabeapgoo.g grrpp, yt? Themwh |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:54:31 PM EST
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That will happen as well, in due time. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was a monument to the soldiers who fought on behalf of a government that thought the ownership of blacks was a right. This statute to Jim Crow.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:55:52 PM EST
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There are monuments to American founders that created a nation where they explicitly allowed the ownership of blacks. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important.
You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? They serve only as low hanging fruit in the left's master plan. Right now, their primary goal is to establish the premise that anything in this country from the 18th and 19th century is racist and must be destroyed. Once they gain enough momentum from destroying Confederate monuments (because it's easy to get people riled up about that particular war), they'll move on to anyone in history that owned slaves. Their new target won't be monuments of the Founding Fathers it will be The Constitution of the United States. This has been their goal all along, they're just getting the snowball rolling. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:57:16 PM EST
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well I made it home and I will the day after the the thestMk star So hso mmabeapgoo.g grrpp, yt? Themwh |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:58:33 PM EST
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This isn't about monuments. They serve only as low hanging fruit in the left's master plan. Right now, their primary goal is to establish the premise that anything in this country from the 18th and 19th century is racist and must be destroyed. Once they gain enough momentum from destroying Confederate monuments (because it's easy to get people riled up about that particular war), they'll move on to anyone in history that owned slaves. Their new target won't be monuments of the Founding Fathers it will be The Constitution of the United States. This has been their goal all along, they're just getting the snowball rolling. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important.
You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? They serve only as low hanging fruit in the left's master plan. Right now, their primary goal is to establish the premise that anything in this country from the 18th and 19th century is racist and must be destroyed. Once they gain enough momentum from destroying Confederate monuments (because it's easy to get people riled up about that particular war), they'll move on to anyone in history that owned slaves. Their new target won't be monuments of the Founding Fathers it will be The Constitution of the United States. This has been their goal all along, they're just getting the snowball rolling. That was the point. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:58:41 PM EST
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You have to start somewhere. Simply canceling cable keeps money out of their pockets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That will happen as well, in due time. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. I put much of the blame for this on those like Bush. I watched for years as the narrative became more and more vile against anyone, up to the president, who didn't suck the lib teet. What did we hear in return, silence or at worse capitulation in the false hope that maybe this little defeat was enough to gain appeasement. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 10:58:47 PM EST
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I have no skin in the game when it comes to the Confederate States but I sure as shit will respect and defend their monuments. http://i.imgur.com/2wZj6HR.jpg Today at Stone Mountain. Fuck You Commies We love that big ole hateful rock. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:00:36 PM EST
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This isn't about monuments. They serve only as low hanging fruit in the left's master plan. Right now, their primary goal is to establish the premise that anything in this country from the 18th and 19th century is racist and must be destroyed. Once they gain enough momentum from destroying Confederate monuments (because it's easy to get people riled up about that particular war), they'll move on to anyone in history that owned slaves. Their new target won't be monuments of the Founding Fathers it will be The Constitution of the United States. This has been their goal all along, they're just getting the snowball rolling. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important.
You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? They serve only as low hanging fruit in the left's master plan. Right now, their primary goal is to establish the premise that anything in this country from the 18th and 19th century is racist and must be destroyed. Once they gain enough momentum from destroying Confederate monuments (because it's easy to get people riled up about that particular war), they'll move on to anyone in history that owned slaves. Their new target won't be monuments of the Founding Fathers it will be The Constitution of the United States. This has been their goal all along, they're just getting the snowball rolling. So if you believe in the Constitution... you guess, you are a Nazi. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:01:30 PM EST
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True but it's far too little far too late. I put much of the blame for this on those like Bush. I watched for years as the narrative became more and more vile against anyone, up to the president, who didn't suck the lib teet. What did we hear in return, silence or at worse capitulation in the false hope that maybe this little defeat was enough to gain appeasement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That will happen as well, in due time. It's over. They have Hollywood, all of TV, all print media, all radio media, all of academia both pre and post graduate and are embedded into every facet of the government from small towns to the highest federal offices. You can't fight every single entity of a society. It's not possible. I put much of the blame for this on those like Bush. I watched for years as the narrative became more and more vile against anyone, up to the president, who didn't suck the lib teet. What did we hear in return, silence or at worse capitulation in the false hope that maybe this little defeat was enough to gain appeasement. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:04:56 PM EST
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:06:34 PM EST
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Wow. What a bunch of losers . Quote History |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:07:49 PM EST
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Next, tear down statues of Washington because he owned slaves.
Tear as down statues of Franklin because he owned slaves. Burn down the Truman Presidential library because he dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I could go on. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:08:31 PM EST
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Next, tear down statues of Washington because he owned slaves. Tear as down statues of Franklin because he owned slaves. Burn down the Truman Presidential library because he dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I could go on. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:09:28 PM EST
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There are monuments to American founders that created a nation where they explicitly allowed the ownership of blacks. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know that pointing this out makes me a Commie-loving Antifa America hater or something, but consider what these statues might actually be about. A lot of these Confederate memorials went up during two eras - Jim Crow (1890's to 1930's), and the Civil Rights Era (1950's and 60's). They weren't put up because a bunch of crippled Confederate veterans scraped together their last dimes to remember their beloved commanders. The statues were put up by state legislatures in large numbers during two very specific racially charged periods. You can theorize about the motives, I suppose. Many people think they were put up to serve as physical reminders so that everyone would know their place, and stay in it. Other people think they are memorials to battlefield valor and heritage. The timing, though, seems a little suspicious - not enough to damn by itself, but context is important.
You can look at the dates yourself, see what you think. List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America What do I think? I'd say quietly retire them before or after the protests have died down. Let them go to private collections, or perhaps some well-heeled alt-Right nottanazi can open the "Otto Skorzeny Memorial Museum for Warriors of Dubious Causes". Don't let them turn into victory points for Nazis or Commies. And yes, 99% of the controversy is being ginned up by the left, the Dems, and the media for political advantage. I get that. I don't know what to do about that.
Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause for secession or the war itself, you have to admit that the CSA believed that black slavery was a Right. Some of you need to calm the fuck down. Even if you don't believe that slavery was a significant cause of their station in life or their achievements, you have to admit that they owned black slaves. Are you going to help take down statues of Jefferson and Washington? If I may be so bold as to suggest that Jefferson & Washington did so much more for America than Johnny Reb ever did. Jefferson & Washington founded the greatest republic in the history of mankind. Johnny Reb spilled his blood for a government that thought it was OK to own people. Plus, that whole Jim Crow thing.... I just don't get why people are so fired up over this. I certainly don't think advocating violence in defense of CSA memorials is even close to rational. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:10:38 PM EST
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And the symbolic kicking of the statue ... please that is so 2003 Baghdad, what a bunch of sheep, mugging it up for the cameras.
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:11:02 PM EST
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That Soros cunt lives for this and pays for it. The sooner he is room temperature, the better. Deep state needs to be buried with him. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:12:31 PM EST
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What's next, confederate cemeteries? Soon they will be on to Arlington and the cemeteries in France. They are desecrating the sacrifice of American soldiers. Regardless of the war or the cause, they deserve the same level of respect. These scared kids of the confederacy gave all their tomorrows in hope that their children might live a better life. Men on the side of the Union, did the same for the same reason. They are desecrating the sacrifice of American soldiers. These are the same people who were spitting on the poor kids who went to Vietnam when America asked for their service. Were a foreign power to do this to American graves or monuments elsewhere what would it be? What is an act of war against your own country? Oh yeah that's it, it's treason. They deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:13:44 PM EST
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If I may be so bold as to suggest that Jefferson & Washington did so much more for America than Johnny Reb ever did. Jefferson & Washington founded the greatest republic in the history of mankind. Johnny Reb spilled his blood for a government that thought it was OK to own people. Plus, that whole Jim Crow thing.... I just don't get why people are so fired up over this. The CSA and average confederate soldier are two separate entities. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:14:48 PM EST
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Some mother fuckers not dressed in Velcro and fucking multicam need to go down there and start busting heads open. Fuck with the bull you get the horns. I'm sick of standing by while these people destroy our neighborhoods. ETA: So by this the cops and officials are fine with us tearing down Martin Luther King memorials and others? I highly doubt we wouldn't be in cuffs 10ft before thay staue. Fucking bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:15:03 PM EST
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That Soros cunt lives for this and pays for it. The sooner he is room temperature, the better. Deep state needs to be buried with him. Thats the insidiousness of this neo-Feudalism they are pushing towards. Used to, there was a guy or family who was the ruler, everyone knew who he was. Now... you don't and theres a lot more than just one guy. There will be no Louis XVI moment. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:19:51 PM EST
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:25:34 PM EST
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Ayup. I'm saving up for my next vacation to Europe. England is my next destination. Really want to see Hadrians Wall. After that it's either going to be Germany, or maybe back to Italy. I loved Rome Italy. Surprised that hasn't been torn down yet as a symbol of subjugation of the Scots or something. Sorry i I forgot in the U.K. they own their history, take responsibility for it. You won't see Nelson and Wellington statues being pulled down. |
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Posted: 8/14/2017 11:38:27 PM EST
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This isn't about monuments. They serve only as low hanging fruit in the left's master plan. Right now, their primary goal is to establish the premise that anything in this country from the 18th and 19th century is racist and must be destroyed. Once they gain enough momentum from destroying Confederate monuments (because it's easy to get people riled up about that particular war), they'll move on to anyone in history that owned slaves. Their new target won't be monuments of the Founding Fathers it will be The Constitution of the United States. This has been their goal all along, they're just getting the snowball rolling. It is so sad that Johnny Reb's many other great achievements did not save him. If only history could recognize him like history looks at Washington. A great man who lead his nation's army through the hardest times, to its first president, to the president who handed over power, but flawed in many ways. |
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