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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:10:24 PM EDT

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That's crazy talk. It must have been construction. No other possible explanation. We haven't even started the investigation, but we can rule one thing out. Must be construction. Gotta be.

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Looks like this is the official narrative now on Fox News. Dana Perino opened with it.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:10:45 PM EDT

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The building isn't owned by the Catholic Church, it's owned by the French .gov.

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What ever; semantics and all that.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:11:03 PM EDT

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I wonder how all of the stonework will handle the cooling off process? Uneven contraction, joint opening and moving. Not to mention what the fire already did to the stone.

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I’d imagine cracked stones from the intense heat.
Mortar isn’t going to hold up to that heat either.
Walls will probably be highly unstable.
Wouldn’t be surprised one bit to hear they need to be brought down.
Hope I’m wrong.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:12:31 PM EDT

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The structure of Notre Dame has reportedly been saved from total destruction according to a firefighting official, 1 firefighter has been seriously injured #Paris #NotreDame
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Only god and some stupidly brave firefighters could have saved it

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:12:59 PM EDT

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I’d imagine cracked stones from the intense heat.
Mortar isn’t going to hold up to that heat either.
Walls will probably be highly unstable.
Wouldn’t be surprised one bit to hear they need to be brought down.
Hope I’m wrong.

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That's 1000 year old lime mortar. Similar to what the romans used. But if coventry cathedral is a reference, it seems that the structure will survive.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:13:10 PM EDT

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Are the American people willingly destroying our own culture through our importation of third-world migrants?

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I haven’t read this entire thread. If someone did it on purpose, yeah that’s pretty shitty. If it was an accident then it was an accident. The French people are willingly destroying their own culture through their importation of third-world migrants. The loss of a building is the least of their problems.

Are the American people willingly destroying our own culture through our importation of third-world migrants?

Yes, but we got tacos out of the deal.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:13:40 PM EDT

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Oh look Martha, it is the Baghdad news minister........er........Swedish news........wait.......nevermind it is just the swede1986

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Just like you guys did after Boston Marathon, Ft Hood, Orlando etc. etc.

Oh look Martha, it is the Baghdad news minister........er........Swedish news........wait.......nevermind it is just the swede1986

It's what he does.
If he ain't bashing America, he has little to say. Edit to add insults....he has those. And personal attacks.
I'll be done here.
I'll become "neutral."

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:14:07 PM EDT

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[tweet]Et devinez qui se réjouit de l’incendie de #NotreDamedeParis.... ?? pic.twitter.com/XG6pu3VqpC— Damien Rieu (@DamienRieu) April 15, 2019 [/tweet]

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Stop with the bs.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:14:13 PM EDT

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Just shut up for once

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I'm late on this story and about to read this thread.

Knowing GD is going to GD, I'm sure the conspiracy theorist/Muslims did it! has started here since it's all over the news article comment section...and GD has much of the same types of people.

Just shut up for once

That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:14:58 PM EDT

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Yes . . . In fact, 3D CAD models of the entire structure have existed for some time.

In, theory . . . it could actually be 3D Printed . . . if you could build a printer large enough.

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You realize that laser scans are a real
Thing and I’d honestly be suprised it wouldn’t have been done on something this historic and iconic.

You’re literally talking a few days of work

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:16:18 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:16:36 PM EDT

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I know nothing last forever, especially man made; but damn this is just sad.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:16:52 PM EDT

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Bunch of white supremacists in here.??

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(They deleted the tweet lol)

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:17:21 PM EDT

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I’d imagine cracked stones from the intense heat.
Mortar isn’t going to hold up to that heat either.
Walls will probably be highly unstable.
Wouldn’t be surprised one bit to hear they need to be brought down.
Hope I’m wrong.

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Bringing it down piece by piece would make it easier to reconstruct. They brought London Bridge to AZ and reconstructed it. Probably prolonged its life by centuries, maybe millennia.

Old world craftsmanship aside, a reconstructed building can incorporate a lot of new materials and tech, while appearing traditional to the untrained eye.

Every company in France would eagerly work on a restoration project. It's a matter of national pride (and pretty good advertising too)

The artwork is another matter. Let's hope the most precious were saved.

Some of course, like the windows, could not be

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:17:23 PM EDT

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They weren't building a McMansion with illegal labor either.

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10?

LOL

It took 200 years the first time...

They didn't have cordless power tools the first time... or corded ones, either...

They weren't building a McMansion with illegal labor either.

No - they were building a cathedral with skilled craftsmen that were told they should donate their labor, until the men said "no".

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:17:35 PM EDT

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That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

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I'm late on this story and about to read this thread.

Knowing GD is going to GD, I'm sure the conspiracy theorist/Muslims did it! has started here since it's all over the news article comment section...and GD has much of the same types of people.

Just shut up for once

That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

Over 1000 incidents of vandalism against churches in the last year....now one of the most famous ones in the world catches fire.......not that much of a leap to think that the fire was deliberately set.....

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:17:42 PM EDT

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Awful stuff.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:17:59 PM EDT

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Whatever the cause, its sad to see historic architecture go up in flames.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:18:11 PM EDT

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You realize that laser scans are a real
Thing and I’d honestly be suprised it wouldn’t have been done on something this historic and iconic.

You’re literally talking a few days of work

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We can only hope.
I'm shocked that they didn't have even the slightest plan about what to do in case of a fire, considering how important this building was to the French.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:18:51 PM EDT

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Would it be racial profiling to interview any diversity restoration laborers?

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:19:00 PM EDT

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FYI Occam’s Razor is newer than Notre Dame

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With all the previous attempts and the stated intention to burn it down before Easter, occams razor pretty much comes into play here and points in only one direction.

FYI Occam’s Razor is newer than Notre Dame

Yes, I am aware.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:19:03 PM EDT

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Glad I got a chance to take my family there to see it.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:19:40 PM EDT

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Pretty sad if it was arson. Perhaps this will wake up the cheese eating surrender monkeys to the dangers of those who would set such a fire.

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Hell, I'm already about hated here - so I'll say it:

The French fought beside us in our own revolution. They fought beside us in two world wars. They gifted us the Statue of Liberty.

Today, I morn alongside my French brothers for what is lost. Today is not the day for jokes.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:20:26 PM EDT

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You'd be surprised what arson investigators can recover from a pile of ash.

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In this case they will find what they are told to find.

There is only one scenario that is not the answer, even if it is the truth.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:20:36 PM EDT

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I don't think this was a ROPer event or even a construction accident; I think the Catholic Church set the fire so they could get the insurance money.

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Seriously? One of the greatest losses to western culture and it is jokes? This is funny?

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:20:40 PM EDT

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We can only hope.
I'm shocked that they didn't have even the slightest plan about what to do in case of a fire, considering how important this building was to the French.

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You realize that laser scans are a real
Thing and I’d honestly be suprised it wouldn’t have been done on something this historic and iconic.

You’re literally talking a few days of work

We can only hope.
I'm shocked that they didn't have even the slightest plan about what to do in case of a fire, considering how important this building was to the French.

That is shocking to me as well unless they knew there was nothing that could be done unless they built something special purpose.

With the ceiling being stone short of hanging for supression out side of it or drilling through it not much could be figured out. Sometimes there’s laws minimizing the ability to alter historic structures

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:21:04 PM EDT

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Was this drone photo already posted?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4OHvvTWwAINUJf.jpg

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Holy shit!

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:21:14 PM EDT

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What ever; semantics and all that.

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The building isn't owned by the Catholic Church, it's owned by the French .gov.

What ever; semantics and all that.

Those darn facts getting in the way of a church conspiracy.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:21:19 PM EDT

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FWIW whatever the source, artwork of that magnitude from ANY religion/culture is a loss to ALL of us.

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I wouldn'r want the Hagia Sofia or the Cordoba Mosque to burn. They're amazing buildings.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:21:22 PM EDT

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PARIS (AP) — Paris police chief: Structure of Notre Dame cathedral has been saved; fire stopped from spreading to northern belfry.
Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) April 15, 2019

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:22:12 PM EDT

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The Empire State Building took 13 months, from breaking ground to occupying offices.

How long would that take, now?

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probably 15 years now, what with OSHA and EPA.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:22:58 PM EDT

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Yes, I am aware.

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With all the previous attempts and the stated intention to burn it down before Easter, occams razor pretty much comes into play here and points in only one direction.

FYI Occam’s Razor is newer than Notre Dame

Yes, I am aware.

I will say occams could go either way

Construction accident

Or

Construction worker saw the missed effort and thought hey I could do this.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:23:34 PM EDT

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Over 1000 incidents of vandalism against churches in the last year....now one of the most famous ones in the world catches fire.......not that much of a leap to think that the fire was deliberately set.....

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Of course it's not a big leap, it's kinda funny how the concern trolls are 100% sure it wasn't due to Muzzies.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:23:47 PM EDT

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Looking like the fire is well on its way to being extinguished.

Currently seeing FFs on top of and in both towers doing inspections with no visible flames showing. Fire around the scaffolding appears to be significantly knocked down as well.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:24:00 PM EDT

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That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

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I'm late on this story and about to read this thread.

Knowing GD is going to GD, I'm sure the conspiracy theorist/Muslims did it! has started here since it's all over the news article comment section...and GD has much of the same types of people.

Just shut up for once

That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

Over 1000 church desecration's this past year alone. In France. World wide the Catholic Church and Christianity in general has been under attack. I don’t think the assumption that it was Muslim terrorism is unwarranted.

But hey I’m also a First Amendment guy. You be you.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:24:14 PM EDT

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So sad.

That is horrible.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:24:19 PM EDT

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Stop with the bs.

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[tweet]Et devinez qui se réjouit de l’incendie de #NotreDamedeParis.... ?? pic.twitter.com/XG6pu3VqpC— Damien Rieu (@DamienRieu) April 15, 2019 [/tweet]

Stop with the bs.

Go away.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:24:42 PM EDT

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For everyone here just an FYI even CNN is reporting it’s not known if it’s a construction accident or not at this point

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:24:46 PM EDT

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Bunch of white supremacists in here.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325723/image0-3_png-913623.JPG

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The Jewish Worker?

Commies I'm betting.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:07 PM EDT

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PARIS (AP) — Paris police chief: Structure of Notre Dame cathedral has been saved; fire stopped from spreading to northern belfry.
Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) April 15, 2019

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Excellent news. I hope it can be rebuilt at some point.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:12 PM EDT

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Could have been something as simple as a short from some wiring going to the work lights.

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One spark landing in the wrong spot.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:36 PM EDT

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It seriously looks like Mordor or some shit;

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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:45 PM EDT

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The Jewish Worker?

Commies I'm betting.

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Bunch of white supremacists in here.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325723/image0-3_png-913623.JPG

(They deleted the tweet lol)

The Jewish Worker?

Commies I'm betting.

Marxist according to their bio

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:51 PM EDT

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That was rough to watch

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:51 PM EDT

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That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

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I'm late on this story and about to read this thread.

Knowing GD is going to GD, I'm sure the conspiracy theorist/Muslims did it! has started here since it's all over the news article comment section...and GD has much of the same types of people.

Just shut up for once

That was my one comment about it.

After making that comment I'm now seeing about half the posts here are all about the blame game. So I wasn't off.

Immaculate timing no?

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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:25:54 PM EDT

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Hell, I'm already about hated here - so I'll say it:

The French fought beside us in our own revolution. They fought beside us in two world wars. They gifted us the Statue of Liberty.

Today, I morn alongside my French brothers for what is lost. Today is not the day for jokes.

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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:27:13 PM EDT

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Gas tanks and Arabic documents found in unmarked car by Paris' Notre Dame cathedral spark terror fears

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:27:35 PM EDT

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Hell, I'm already about hated here - so I'll say it:

The French fought beside us in our own revolution. They fought beside us in two world wars. They gifted us the Statue of Liberty.

Today, I morn alongside my French brothers for what is lost. Today is not the day for jokes.

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Pretty sad if it was arson. Perhaps this will wake up the cheese eating surrender monkeys to the dangers of those who would set such a fire.

Hell, I'm already about hated here - so I'll say it:

The French fought beside us in our own revolution. They fought beside us in two world wars. They gifted us the Statue of Liberty.

Today, I morn alongside my French brothers for what is lost. Today is not the day for jokes.

This is a terrible loss.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:29:52 PM EDT

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One spark landing in the wrong spot.

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Could have been something as simple as a short from some wiring going to the work lights.

One spark landing in the wrong spot.

Guess it was just lucky the 900 other years.

Posted: 4/15/2019 5:30:21 PM EDT

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I imagine the heat would be enough to make the interior combust even if the stone holds.

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if those are really recent then that gives some hope for the interior.

The ceiling you see when inside Notre Dame is stone. Those shots show that most of the wood roof was caught by that stone and hasn't fallen all the way to ground level.

likely some holes in that stone work has allowed some to fall through... especially where the spire was... so there will be damage and I have no way of knowing how long that ceiling will last or how firefighting under it is going.

I imagine the heat would be enough to make the interior combust even if the stone holds.

I haven't seen any fire or smoke coming from the ground level windows. I'm not saying there isn't any... just that the ground level hasn't been fully engulfed. Those images show that most of the fire has been contained above the stone ceiling in the roof. We can see that stone ceiling mostly still intact having caught the burning roof and preventing it from falling on all the stuff inside. I'd bet there have been punctures to the stone roof in places ... most likely where the spire fell... so some damage will have occurred. But I'm growing more hopeful that the damage will be less than a total lose.

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