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Posted: 6/2/2018 2:58:41 PM EDT
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Facts on the ground can always change, in surprising ways. To consistently fail in such a manner tells me everything I need to know about the culture. You’ve earned your shitty lot in life. Own it and quit crying. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 2:59:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Israel kicked 700,000 Palis off their land to form the state of Israel. Those are Israeli figures. They stole someone else's shit, which how we are where we are today. ETA-I don't know why I'm even replying to this Iranian apologist. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:02:15 PM EDT
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Given your past comments, I don't take what you just said seriously. Look, I don't care about religion. The reality is the Israelis control the area. It is managed very successfully. There is a strong economy that works with the wider world community in a secular fashion. The Palestinians have lost. Their allies, or what they believed to be their allies, played (and continue playing) them for fools and using them as pawns. Their only winning move is to reject Hamas and negotiate without conditions. Their only other options are continuing suffering for another 100 years or wait for an all out war in which the final result will likely be the full destruction of their people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Has nothing to do with Jews. I get along with Jews with no problems here in the states. The Palestinians got hosed because the Germans were psychopaths. It's fucked up. I had no more emotional investment in the conflict beyond that. I think it is retarded that the Mullahs in Iran give anything more than moral support to the Palestinian cause. They are making Arab problems their own, and putting the plight of the Palis above their own national interests. But Mullahs gonna Mullah. Look, I don't care about religion. The reality is the Israelis control the area. It is managed very successfully. There is a strong economy that works with the wider world community in a secular fashion. The Palestinians have lost. Their allies, or what they believed to be their allies, played (and continue playing) them for fools and using them as pawns. Their only winning move is to reject Hamas and negotiate without conditions. Their only other options are continuing suffering for another 100 years or wait for an all out war in which the final result will likely be the full destruction of their people. The Palestinians will decide that for themselves. I'm fine with whatever they decide. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:02:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:03:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:05:05 PM EDT
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Keep telling yourself that. The fact is that your team is ridiculously adept at losing. You’d think that averages would throw you guys the occasional win but it keeps not happening. To consistently fail in such a manner tells me everything I need to know about the culture. You’ve earned your shitty lot in life. Own it and quit crying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Facts on the ground can always change, in surprising ways. To consistently fail in such a manner tells me everything I need to know about the culture. You’ve earned your shitty lot in life. Own it and quit crying. The Palis will do what it is that they do. I hope the best for them. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:06:20 PM EDT
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Jews were barred from their most sacred holy sights, facing naval embargos, and had a build up of military troops at their border. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. 
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:07:32 PM EDT
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I guess your idea of "peace for generations prior to the current conflict" must also be like your believe that 1-2 % is a "decent percentage" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:07:41 PM EDT
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I hope the Joos push the fuckin' Arabs into the sea. When's enough gonna be enough? |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:08:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What time period are you referencing? |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:09:45 PM EDT
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1949-1967 Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What time period are you referencing?
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:09:52 PM EDT
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Do I need to post about the Stern Gang and Jewish terrorism during the same period? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:14:01 PM EDT
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So now they DIDN'T live in "peace for generations". Which is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine Just because the fight for the land began in the ensuing 10 to 15 years prior to the founding of the state of Israel, does not exclude the fact that Jews and Muslims lived side by side in peace for generations prior to that. For fucks sake, I know this is GD, but come on. Debating with these logical fallacies is just ridiculous. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:14:43 PM EDT
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Keep telling yourself that. The fact is that your team is ridiculously adept at losing. You’d think that averages would throw you guys the occasional win but it keeps not happening. To consistently fail in such a manner tells me everything I need to know about the culture. You’ve earned your shitty lot in life. Own it and quit crying. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Facts on the ground can always change, in surprising ways. To consistently fail in such a manner tells me everything I need to know about the culture. You’ve earned your shitty lot in life. Own it and quit crying. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which has nothing to do with my prior point. I said they lived in peace together for generations prior to the founding of the state of Israel. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My team? I live in the US. The fuck are you talking about. Lol. The Palis will do what it is that they do. I hope the best for them. I take a deep satisfaction in watching people live the lives they deserve. I can see where that might hurt your feelings, but the realities of the world are validating to me. You identify with a failed culture whose only specialization is losing. That tells me more about you than you want me to know. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:18:14 PM EDT
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Do I need to post about the Stern Gang and Jewish terrorism during the same period? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine 
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Debating with these logical fallacies is just ridiculous. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:19:45 PM EDT
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Must be more of those peaceful protestors
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:20:24 PM EDT
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Yes, your team. You have a demonstrable ego investment in the hole these individuals have dug for themselves. I take a deep satisfaction in watching people live the lives they deserve. I can see where that might hurt your feelings, but the realities of the world are validating to me. You identify with a failed culture whose only specialization is losing. That tells me more about you than you want me to know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My team? I live in the US. The fuck are you talking about. Lol. The Palis will do what it is that they do. I hope the best for them. I take a deep satisfaction in watching people live the lives they deserve. I can see where that might hurt your feelings, but the realities of the world are validating to me. You identify with a failed culture whose only specialization is losing. That tells me more about you than you want me to know. I take deep satisfaction in knowing that none of this affects me in any measurable way, but that I can still throw peanuts from the peanut gallery. 
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to take some logic classes. Just because the fight for the land began in the ensuing 10 to 15 years prior to the founding of the state of Israel, does not exclude the fact that Jews and Muslims lived side by side in peace for generations prior to that. For fucks sake, I know this is GD, but come on. Debating with these logical fallacies is just ridiculous. Rome Muslims Christians Egyptians Turks Britian Jews The Arabs have no intention of living peacefully with Jews....ever. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:24:04 PM EDT
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Jesus you should work for CNN. First you say they lived there peacefully, now you say that they fought. You'll really just lie anyway you want to support your Jews are evil argument. Gee where have I heard that before? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: No. There were Jews living there peacefully prior to foundation of the state of Israel. Jews and Muslims lived in Palestine in peace for generations prior to the current conflict. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Israel is the aggressor. They stole someone else's house and bulldozed it to the ground to form their luxury condominiums. Everything Israel receives is a result of that original sin. Face it, the "palestinians" that you defend are not interested in peace because the number one goal they have is to kill every jew in the world. The Israelis just want everyone to leave them the fuck alone. That is the difference between a "palestinian" and an Israeli. As for nato, they can gtfo. Let Germany pay for their shit. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:26:38 PM EDT
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So is this something different or just the usual Palestinian assholes firing off rockets at Jewish houses?
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep telling yourself that. The fact is that your team is ridiculously adept at losing. You’d think that averages would throw you guys the occasional win but it keeps not happening. To consistently fail in such a manner tells me everything I need to know about the culture. You’ve earned your shitty lot in life. Own it and quit crying. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:28:30 PM EDT
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Breaking news on CNN: Palestinian children peacefully protest by flying kites, Israel responds with sonic weapons  |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:30:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My team? I live in the US. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:31:12 PM EDT
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Unless you’re referring to recently bias, there’s no formal logical fallacy I’m familiar with that would subvert the idea that conflict isn’t peaceful. It’s not.
Pretending that two cultures with a documented history of violence have somehow enjoyed a peaceful coexistence indicates that you are either willfully ignorant or simply insane. One side is winning, both politically and physically, and the other is living in squalor. My experience is that folks end up with precisely the life they deserve. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:33:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My team? I live in the US. The fuck are you talking about. Lol. The Palis will do what it is that they do. I hope the best for them. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Israel kicked 700,000 Palis off their land to form the state of Israel. Those are Israeli figures. They stole someone else's shit, which how we are where we are today. They didn't count on God being on Israel's side. Oh well. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:42:42 PM EDT
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Then don't act like Israel is just defending their land. They stole the shit. Lol. Context matters. The Palis have legitimate grievances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:42:55 PM EDT
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Y'all are leaving God out of the picture. You can't talk about Israel and not talk about God. Mess with Israel, you mess with God. Fact.
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:47:41 PM EDT
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 This Land is Mine |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 3:55:52 PM EDT
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Question: How many of you guys have an IDF clone? Or at least one with elastic bands on the forearm and buttstock?
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:11:29 PM EDT
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Push the garbage into the sea.
End of the problem. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:13:07 PM EDT
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LMAO! Just since Christ, Isreal has been conquered and ruled by: Rome Muslims Christians Egyptians Turks Britian Jews The Arabs have no intention of living peacefully with Jews....ever. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You need to take some logic classes. Just because the fight for the land began in the ensuing 10 to 15 years prior to the founding of the state of Israel, does not exclude the fact that Jews and Muslims lived side by side in peace for generations prior to that. For fucks sake, I know this is GD, but come on. Debating with these logical fallacies is just ridiculous. Rome Muslims Christians Egyptians Turks Britian Jews The Arabs have no intention of living peacefully with Jews....ever. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:16:46 PM EDT
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Y'all are leaving God out of the picture. You can't talk about Israel and not talk about God. Mess with Israel, you mess with God. Fact. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:19:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I identify with the plight of people. That includes the Jews during the Holocaust. I find it sad that people have to suffer, and the Palis had a lot if help from the Israelis in digging their hole. I take deep satisfaction in knowing that none of this affects me in any measurable way, but that I can still throw peanuts from the peanut gallery. That would be much more righteous than riding the coattails of a successful nation (that your ancestors had nothing to do with building) and then being unappreciative of the opportunity afforded you by a superior culture. I wonder why your people left? |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:21:04 PM EDT
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If you're so concerned with their plight, why not go help them? That would be much more righteous than riding the coattails of a successful nation (that your ancestors had nothing to do with building) and then being unappreciative of the opportunity afforded you by a superior culture. I wonder why your people left? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I identify with the plight of people. That includes the Jews during the Holocaust. I find it sad that people have to suffer, and the Palis had a lot if help from the Israelis in digging their hole. I take deep satisfaction in knowing that none of this affects me in any measurable way, but that I can still throw peanuts from the peanut gallery. That would be much more righteous than riding the coattails of a successful nation (that your ancestors had nothing to do with building) and then being unappreciative of the opportunity afforded you by a superior culture. I wonder why your people left? |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:21:13 PM EDT
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There is no God Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Y'all are leaving God out of the picture. You can't talk about Israel and not talk about God. Mess with Israel, you mess with God. Fact. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:23:26 PM EDT
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If you're so concerned with their plight, why not go help them? That would be much more righteous than riding the coattails of a successful nation (that your ancestors had nothing to do with building) and then being unappreciative of the opportunity afforded you by a superior culture. I wonder why your people left? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I identify with the plight of people. That includes the Jews during the Holocaust. I find it sad that people have to suffer, and the Palis had a lot if help from the Israelis in digging their hole. I take deep satisfaction in knowing that none of this affects me in any measurable way, but that I can still throw peanuts from the peanut gallery. That would be much more righteous than riding the coattails of a successful nation (that your ancestors had nothing to do with building) and then being unappreciative of the opportunity afforded you by a superior culture. I wonder why your people left? My Grandfather was in WWII... we didn't get here recently. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:24:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I can probably trace my family's roots in this country further back than you can. You don't know me. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:27:42 PM EDT
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Taqiyya really is a thing
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:32:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:33:55 PM EDT
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Too many people here are anti-Israel and their hatred blinds them. The Jews have been in Israel for thousands of years, it's their land, culture, etc..
Islam, the satanic death cult, didn't come on to the scene until the 7th Century. They want to kill all the Jews, the koran tells them to do so. It's the Muslim Brotherhood that's fighting a proxy war against Israel. The people of Gaza are too stupid to know this. They're so stupid they voted in Hamas for the government of Gaza. Very stupid people and they're getting killed for their stupidity. Gaza is nothing but Darwin doing his thing. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:35:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I can probably trace my family's roots in this country further back than you can. You don't know me. My Grandfather was in WWII... we didn't get here recently. My folks have been here since the 1700s, irrelevant as that may be. I did assume your line was a more recent transplant. Why the Iranian apologist routine then? Ever been there? Spent much time in Persian or Arab streets? |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no God |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:36:44 PM EDT
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If the Izzy’s were just nicer to Arabs......then everything would be fine .
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:37:59 PM EDT
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Yes, your team. You have a demonstrable ego investment in the hole these individuals have dug for themselves. I take a deep satisfaction in watching people live the lives they deserve. I can see where that might hurt your feelings, but the realities of the world are validating to me. You identify with a failed culture whose only specialization is losing. That tells me more about you than you want me to know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My team? I live in the US. The fuck are you talking about. Lol. The Palis will do what it is that they do. I hope the best for them. I take a deep satisfaction in watching people live the lives they deserve. I can see where that might hurt your feelings, but the realities of the world are validating to me. You identify with a failed culture whose only specialization is losing. That tells me more about you than you want me to know. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:38:20 PM EDT
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There is no God Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Y'all are leaving God out of the picture. You can't talk about Israel and not talk about God. Mess with Israel, you mess with God. Fact. 
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Posted: 6/2/2018 4:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A few settled after the initial conquest in 640. The seedstock of most modern palis were bedouins from what is now saudi arabia/yemen that were moved into the levant by the ottomans to further "islamise" it in the 15-1600s. |
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