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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 9:53:48 AM EDT
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the ONG thing is what makes them valuable.

Some of you are incredibly dense when it comes to collector value of firearms. There's already people offering double/triple the original price.
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But double and triple isn’t nothing in value.Buy a real Stevens 620 trench and see we’re Thats all in value
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 9:54:36 AM EDT
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One thing compared to a trench gun.They weren't ever in a war.Thats what makes trench hold their value and sought after.And the ong on them kills them.There not a real mk1
the ONG thing is what makes them valuable.

Some of you are incredibly dense when it comes to collector value of firearms. There's already people offering double/triple the original price.
There are a number of guns that become collectable for a number of reasons. These will be. The same goes for S&Ws and Colts.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 9:55:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 9:56:23 AM EDT
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Yep, they're milsurp, and they're obscure with an interesting history.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 9:56:42 AM EDT
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the ONG thing is what makes them valuable.

Some of you are incredibly dense when it comes to collector value of firearms. There's already people offering double/triple the original price.
But double and triple isn’t nothing in value.Buy a real Stevens 620 trench and see we’re Thats all in value
We bought these for $229-239 shipped with a hard plastic case. Nobody is trying to say these are as valuable as a WW1/2 trench gun.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:00:38 AM EDT
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there good for what price was.I got two .And ordered two for four other family members to reach ten .Ill keep a few nice ones and partout a few .And walk around shows to get some offers on others.Ill get the ones I keep for free and endup profit
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:02:37 AM EDT
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there good for what price was.I got two .And ordered two for four other family members to reach ten .Ill keep a few nice ones and partout a few .And walk around shows to get some offers on others
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How did you order 10
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:04:18 AM EDT
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Bought a few
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:05:15 AM EDT
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Legit Milsurps are becoming rarer and rarer everyday. Uncle Sam sends all their Fed LE guns to captain crunch. The majority of weapons in the US military are not and never will be legal for civilian sales. I doubt we'll see Beretta M9s and Mossbergs sold through the CMP. The majority of state's NGs use Federally funded arms.

These are legit military purchased arms, used by military units, with provenance of being deployed to Katrina and other documented events, that have bee  surplused and sold to the civilian market. Plus they are in a configuration that has a great appeal with accessories that are not exactly common.

Will these become priced like 100% conditioned WWI Trench Guns? Nope.

But they will raise in price and value as time marches on.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:05:23 AM EDT
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Two for me .Two for son.Two for old lady and two my mom and two dad.On seperate cards and addresses that’s all
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They didn’t mention a limit of two until after they sold out, so I think you’re full of shit tbh.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:09:32 AM EDT
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there good for what price was.I got two .And ordered two for four other family members to reach ten .Ill keep a few nice ones and partout a few .And walk around shows to get some offers on others.Ill get the ones I keep for free and endup profit
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Straw purchase much?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:09:56 AM EDT
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Depends on who you know bud .Thats all..Had a straight order on ten .Were you think others went after they limited you to two
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:11:35 AM EDT
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Two for me .Two for son.Two for old lady and two my mom and two dad.On seperate cards and addresses that’s all
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Just stay out of this thread.  We dont need people like you here.

Lets try to keep this on topic everyone else.  Just ignore this guy.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:12:05 AM EDT
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Two for me .Two for son.Two for old lady and two my mom and two dad.On seperate cards and addresses that's all
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LOL.... I'm gonna need to see photo to prove that. Also you admit that you possibly straw purchased them and plan on selling them for a profit and not have an FFL.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:14:09 AM EDT
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Straw purchase much?
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Nope they all wanted some and decided they would sell them to me  that’s all  legal here
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:15:24 AM EDT
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LOL.... I'm gonna need to see photo to prove that. Also you admit that you possibly straw purchased them and plan on selling them for a profit and not have an FFL.
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Don’t need a ffl to sell a long gun here .Person to person .Now back to topics .Im glad there coming in nice shape.Hope my first set today nice today .And others tomorrow
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:17:50 AM EDT
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I want one.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:18:30 AM EDT
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This thread is depressing as hell.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:21:51 AM EDT
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Nope they all wanted some and decided they would sell them to me  that’s all  legal here
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Is your mom going to the local FFL to fill out the 4473s so you can horde shotguns?

It also seems odd that you talk smack that these aren’t worth anything yet you claim to have purchased 10.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:23:22 AM EDT
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But double and triple isn't nothing in value.Buy a real Stevens 620 trench and see we're Thats all in value
Trippled in value in less than a week. Garbage guns I tell you!

You work for Pawn Stars?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:27:05 AM EDT
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Is Gunwritr doing an article on these?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:28:37 AM EDT
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If i get my hands on one. I sure will.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:32:52 AM EDT
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Is your mom going to the local FFL to fill out the 4473s so you can horde shotguns?

It also seems odd that you talk smack that these aren’t worth anything yet you claim to have purchased 10.
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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:33:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:33:45 AM EDT
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Nope they all wanted some and decided they would sell them to me  that’s all  legal here
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Legal where?   Buying guns for other people, like you admitted you did, is the definition of a straw purchase, which is a federal crime, not a state issue.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:34:53 AM EDT
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I've had someone offer me one, so hopefully.

Another thing folks need to remember.
'97 Trench Guns didn't magically spike in price overnight.
They've had decades to slowly rise in price. When they were available
they sold cheap like other surplus.

Also remember, there are 1,200 of these. I bet 300+ will get modified.
It will happen. People will say, it's just an 870 and its too muzzle heavy,
off with this or that. I bet a large number are modified within 30 days.
Lots of people who bought them don't care about them being collectible.
I had a friend once who wanted a Mosin rifle, so I gave him an original
M1891 (not a common 91/30) with Finnish markings. He promptly chopped it...


More will end up in the back of a pick-up or used as a beater shotgun.
And their condition will go out the window.

It's just how life is.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:35:53 AM EDT
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Is your mom going to the local FFL to fill out the 4473s so you can horde shotguns?

It also seems odd that you talk smack that these aren’t worth anything yet you claim to have purchased 10.
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Nope they all wanted some and decided they would sell them to me  that’s all  legal here
Is your mom going to the local FFL to fill out the 4473s so you can horde shotguns?

It also seems odd that you talk smack that these aren’t worth anything yet you claim to have purchased 10.
I guess now that the .22 is flowing again, neckbeards gotta supplement their fibromyalgia SSDI somehow...
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:39:10 AM EDT
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These are going to rise in value.

Only 1,200 of them with legitimate provenance as to being used during Hurricane Katrina and other events in America. Yes, they will rise. Plus the fact that these are general a rare configuration hardly ever released on the market and the majority are clones. Oh yes, they will rise.
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Do that many people care that the Ohio National Guard walked around LA with them?  To me that’s not even in the same ballpark as used in an actual war.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:40:24 AM EDT
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I forgot, did you want to still get info on Jerry Lewis' Beretta?
I think you were asking about it..

#Threadjack

Anything to distract this thread from the troll above. LOL
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If i get my hands on one. I sure will.
I forgot, did you want to still get info on Jerry Lewis' Beretta?
I think you were asking about it..

#Threadjack

Anything to distract this thread from the troll above. LOL
Sí Señor
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:40:44 AM EDT
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Don’t need a ffl to sell a long gun here .Person to person .Now back to topics .Im glad there coming in nice shape.Hope my first set today nice today .And others tomorrow
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LOL.... I'm gonna need to see photo to prove that. Also you admit that you possibly straw purchased them and plan on selling them for a profit and not have an FFL.
Don’t need a ffl to sell a long gun here .Person to person .Now back to topics .Im glad there coming in nice shape.Hope my first set today nice today .And others tomorrow
You must not have a clear understanding of the law. Yes you can sell a long gun in PA to another PA resident without going thru an FFL. This is a state law. It is against federal law to engage in the business of selling firearms without an FFL, which it clearly seems you are proposing to do.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:41:26 AM EDT
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the ONG thing is what makes them valuable.

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Let’s see what they are worth in a year first, not what one person is willing to pay on gun broker.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:41:49 AM EDT
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One thing compared to a trench gun.They weren’t ever in a war.Thats what makes trench hold their value and sought after.And the ong on them kills them.There not a real mk1
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Guess who hasn’t read the thread and has no idea what there talking about.

There is two standardized military 870s. Riot and MK1.

These are riots.

Riots were used by all branches.

MK1 marines only.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:42:17 AM EDT
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Do that many people care that the Ohio National Guard walked around LA with them?  To me that’s not even in the same ballpark as used in an actual war.
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Lots of collectible firearms did much less or nothing at all....
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:42:22 AM EDT
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Do that many people care that the Ohio National Guard walked around LA with them?  To me that's not even in the same ballpark as used in an actual war.
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These are going to rise in value.

Only 1,200 of them with legitimate provenance as to being used during Hurricane Katrina and other events in America. Yes, they will rise. Plus the fact that these are general a rare configuration hardly ever released on the market and the majority are clones. Oh yes, they will rise.
Do that many people care that the Ohio National Guard walked around LA with them?  To me that's not even in the same ballpark as used in an actual war.
Yes, people do care.

Same happens with LE guns attached to certain events too.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:42:49 AM EDT
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Get mine today .So can you see we’re a factory bead sight was on factory barrel .Before bayonet adapter was put on
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All riot guns are that way sunshine. Even US property marked ones. Stop spreading bull shit.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:42:53 AM EDT
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I've had someone offer me one, so hopefully.

Another thing folks need to remember.
'97 Trench Guns didn't magically spike in price overnight.
They've had decades to slowly rise in price. When they were available
they sold cheap like other surplus.

Also remember, there are 1,200 of these. I bet 300+ will get modified.
It will happen. People will say, it's just an 870 and its too muzzle heavy,
off with this or that. I bet a large number are modified within 30 days.
Lots of people who bought them don't care about them being collectible.
I had a friend once who wanted a Mosin rifle, so I gave him an original
M1891 (not a common 91/30) with Finnish markings. He promptly chopped it...


More will end up in the back of a pick-up or used as a beater shotgun.
And their condition will go out the window.

It's just how life is.
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Is Gunwritr doing an article on these?
I've had someone offer me one, so hopefully.

Another thing folks need to remember.
'97 Trench Guns didn't magically spike in price overnight.
They've had decades to slowly rise in price. When they were available
they sold cheap like other surplus.

Also remember, there are 1,200 of these. I bet 300+ will get modified.
It will happen. People will say, it's just an 870 and its too muzzle heavy,
off with this or that. I bet a large number are modified within 30 days.
Lots of people who bought them don't care about them being collectible.
I had a friend once who wanted a Mosin rifle, so I gave him an original
M1891 (not a common 91/30) with Finnish markings. He promptly chopped it...


More will end up in the back of a pick-up or used as a beater shotgun.
And their condition will go out the window.

It's just how life is.
I'll be honest. If I got one id shoot 3 gun with it, hunt with it, and go to classes with it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:43:58 AM EDT
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Do that many people care that the Ohio National Guard walked around LA with them?  To me that’s not even in the same ballpark as used in an actual war.
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These are going to rise in value.

Only 1,200 of them with legitimate provenance as to being used during Hurricane Katrina and other events in America. Yes, they will rise. Plus the fact that these are general a rare configuration hardly ever released on the market and the majority are clones. Oh yes, they will rise.
Do that many people care that the Ohio National Guard walked around LA with them?  To me that’s not even in the same ballpark as used in an actual war.
It’s more along the lines that these were used by a branch of the US Military. So far we’ve found that these shotguns were also used in a prison riot in the 90s. They may not have war history in a foreign theater, but that doesn’t mean that domestic service by our military is insignificant.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:44:19 AM EDT
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there good for what price was.I got two .And ordered two for four other family members to reach ten .Ill keep a few nice ones and partout a few .And walk around shows to get some offers on others.Ill get the ones I keep for free and endup profit
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You are a tool for parting them out.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:47:55 AM EDT
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You are a tool for parting them out.
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He's probably just trolling......and not worth your breath
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:48:01 AM EDT
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there good for what price was.I got two .And ordered two for four other family members to reach ten .Ill keep a few nice ones and partout a few .And walk around shows to get some offers on others.Ill get the ones I keep for free and endup profit
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Add 1% to that transaction cost and spring for a membership.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:49:13 AM EDT
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I'll be honest. If I got one id shoot 3 gun with it, hunt with it, and go to classes with it.
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Is Gunwritr doing an article on these?
I've had someone offer me one, so hopefully.

Another thing folks need to remember.
'97 Trench Guns didn't magically spike in price overnight.
They've had decades to slowly rise in price. When they were available
they sold cheap like other surplus.

Also remember, there are 1,200 of these. I bet 300+ will get modified.
It will happen. People will say, it's just an 870 and its too muzzle heavy,
off with this or that. I bet a large number are modified within 30 days.
Lots of people who bought them don't care about them being collectible.
I had a friend once who wanted a Mosin rifle, so I gave him an original
M1891 (not a common 91/30) with Finnish markings. He promptly chopped it...


More will end up in the back of a pick-up or used as a beater shotgun.
And their condition will go out the window.

It's just how life is.
I'll be honest. If I got one id shoot 3 gun with it, hunt with it, and go to classes with it.
If I can get my hands on one. I sure will be shooting it.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:49:20 AM EDT
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I'm sure many of them will be shot, used and enjoyed. Nothing wrong with that.
But it reduces the amount of minty examples.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:51:52 AM EDT
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This makes zero sense????

They wanted shotguns and decided to "sell" them to you??? Doesn't seem like they wanted anything at all.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:58:30 AM EDT
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To those counting being used used stateside as a disqualifier for collectability- I suppose anything used in the Civil war, Little Big Horn, Wounded Knee or by Babyface Nelson, Clyde Barrow or Dillinger are disqualified too.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 10:58:53 AM EDT
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Well we have apparently crashed the site as I get an error message when I try to log in and check on my orders
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 11:05:36 AM EDT
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@gunwritr

I will loan you mine if you don’t acquire one. If I had gotten more then one I’d give you the other.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 11:14:26 AM EDT
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What's with the weirdos trying to purposefully pretend these shotguns aren't worth anything?

ANY collector who knows anything at all about firearms knows these are something special. What's the angle? Jealousy?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 11:18:38 AM EDT
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What's with the weirdos trying to purposefully pretend these shotguns aren't worth anything?

ANY collector who knows anything at all about firearms knows these are something special. What's the angle? Jealousy?
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He’s just trolling.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 11:21:54 AM EDT
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Appreciated. Right now it looks like I'll have one to buy.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 11:22:21 AM EDT
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Lots of Bitter Betty’s who didn’t get in on the deal and are salty.
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